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TSOM:
Does He?

God creates laws and invalidates them as at when necessary to help His children become better persons and live better, more meaningful lives.

The same God of the Old Testament who asked for burnt offerings of animals and presentation of first fruits is the same God who gave His son, Jesus, to die for man's sins and, hence, overriding the need to offer sacrifices to Him as penances of our sins.

The same God who told His children to destroy and kill their enemies without sparing their young or wives is the same God who, through His son, who asked us to be forgiving of our enemies and help lead them to the light.

God surely wouldn't be in support of polygamy 'cause the world has changed ever since Solomon had more women than the days of the year in a Gregorian calendar.

Overpopulation has its ills. Children from polygamous homes have to navigate the maze of life figuring out hard facts on their own.
Dad is too busy placating his last wife so she wouldn't stab his second wife with a fork.
The kids rarely have one-on-one moments with daddy and mummy feeds them 'hate pills' so they'd always be suspicious of their stepmums and half-siblings.
How does a child with that background grow up fully functional?
Need I mention the hanging cloud of disgust and resentment over the home? Is it even a home in the real sense if it isn't as peaceful as loving as a home should be?

God wouldn't want His children to suffer these things.

Then again, it's cowardly to bring God into this. He already gave you the power of choice. He created the biblical Adam to bed and wife Eve; not Adam marrying Eve, her best friend and the girl down the street.

Jacob chose to marry Rachel after getting Leah. Solomon chose to marry in hundreds. Abraham chose to sleep with Sarah's maid, God didn't make him do it.

You chose to wed more than one woman. You chose to bring in more women.

Oddly, all polygamous marriages in the bible had dire consequences.
Joseph got sold by his half brothers.
Ishmael hated Isaac.
David's and Solomon's younglings of polygamous relationships fought themselves. That is God letting you know you'd live with your decision(s).

Live with your decision and cease seeking justification for it 'cause there is none...no rational one anyway.

I appreciate your input but I want us to discuss within the scope of the scriptures.

Many people tend to use human philosophy to decipher issues of marriage in relation to the scriptures.

Daniel2289:
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Stop dwelling in the past. There is no way that God will support Polygamy.

As for me,I see it as a big NO not because its a sin but too complex for me to handle but our discussion should be focused on the scriptural views about it.

asuustrike2009:
The word of God is clear on marriage anyone that goes contrary to it has himself or herself to blame. Marry more one wife and end in hell. God was not foolish when he ordained one man one wife

Read this
www.nairaland.com/4303658/does-god-support-polygamy#64403042

I implore everyone to carefully and patiently read with an open mind and give their opinions objectively because i am about to dissect the lingering issue of polygamy in the light of the scriptures

I'm not here to promote, support or go against polygamy but I'm just expressing MY UNBIASED OPINION from the scriptural perspective so no baseless personal attacks but lets discuss the subject matter.

There is a new trend in Nigeria where we now see men getting married to two ladies in one day and even flaunting it on social media.

Whilst some people hail the boldness of these men, Some people say "Polygamy is a sin, GOD forbids it..." and i tend to wonder where these people got their doctrines from.

Unfortunately many pastors will never preach what you are about to read because they don't want to lose their female members.

Now Lets take a quick look at this scripture for the definition of sin;

1 John 3:4 “Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness” The question we must ask one another is;If the Law provided for polygamy, how could it be a "sin"?

1.Now what does the law state about polygamy from the scriptures?

In Deuteronomy 21:15-17: If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love, when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the wife he does not love. He must acknowledge the son of his unloved wife as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father’s strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him.

This simple scriptural verse shows that God allowed and regulated polygamy....God chose to regulate it by demanding that each wife must be treated equally. If polygamy is a sin i believe there will be no need for GOD to regulate it rather it will be condemned in clear terms.

Lets also quickly have a run through of the verses in the scriptures that made reference to people who were polygamous and these people were not condemned by GOD.

In 2 Samuel 5:13; 1 Chronicles 3:1-9, 14:3 , King David had six wives and numerous concubines.

In 1 Kings 11:3 , King Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

In 2 Chronicles 11:21 , King Solomon's son Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines.

Judges 8:30.Now Gideon had seventy sons who were his direct descendants, for he had many wives.

Genesis 4:19.Lamech took to himself two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other, Zillah.

1 Chronicles 4:5.Ashhur, the father of Tekoa, had two wives, Helah and Naarah.

There are a lot more verses from the Old Testament that allow polygamy, but I think that the above are sufficient enough to prove my point.


2.Polygamy in the New Testament:

Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or theProphets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not theleast stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18) "

In 1 Timothy 3:2, Paul ADVISED general overseers to be husband of one wife but does it make it A SIN for a G.O to have more than one wife?

What about billions of men who are not General overseers...I guess they are excluded.

And talking about the aspiring elders or general overseers who are already polygamous,I'm very certain that Paul will never ask them to divorce extra wives cos that will be contradicting the scriptures which frown against divorce so what happens to them? will they forget their calling?

Many people have tried to use man's philosophy to label polygamy a sin by quoting several scriptures referring to a man and a woman joining together to be one flesh in a singular manner.

The idea of "one flesh" does not mean that the man is exclusive to that woman. It means that at anytime a marriage takes place, it is the joining of one man and one woman(singular)but if a man can be joined as one to a harlot whilst still one with his wife then he can be joined to as many brides as he desires.

Now Let's take a look at this verse

1 Corinthians 6:16
Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.”

In essence, the fact that marriage is always expressed in the singular does not mean a man can not be singularly joined to as many women as possible.

3.When polygamy becomes a sin

Romans 13:1-2 clearly states; 'Obey the government, for God is the one who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow.

This means if you marry under governmental laws(Registry/court) and it is clearly stated that you can not marry more than a wife and you go ahead to do so, then you have sinned by disobeying the laws. But we all know that there are other types of marriage that are not done in registry hence can be excused from following the monogamous policy of registry marriages.

Whilst i personally think polygamy is not ideal due to its complex nature and often comes with its downsides, but that does not make it a sin. It is also very clear that there was never a place in the scriptures that called polygamy a sin or outrightly condemns it and this is the fact i want the world and indeed women all over the world to come to terms with.

Now let's take a quick look at Mathew 19 vs 8...

Jesus replied, “Moses permitted divorce only as a concession to your hard hearts, but it was not so from the beginning.

People may argue that Polygamy was not the original plan of GOD for marriage and they may not be wrong but just like divorce was never an original plan of GOD for marriage but now allowed just as Polygamy is allowed not because GOD wants men to marry many wives but simply because no woman deserves to be without a husband. The hypocrisy today is that many Christians have embraced divorce as a norm but vehemently refused polygamy

Back in the days and even in many instances today, due to patriarchal societies, it was nearly impossible for an unmarried woman to provide for herself. Women were often uneducated and untrained. Women relied on their fathers, brothers, and husbands for provision and protection. Unmarried women were often subjected to prostitution and slavery.

So, it seems that God may have allowed polygamy to protect and provide for the women who could not find a husband otherwise. A man would take multiple wives and serve as the provider and protector of all of them.

While definitely not ideal, living in a polygamist household was far better than the alternatives: prostitution, slavery, or starvation.

In addition to the protection/provision factor, polygamy enabled a much faster expansion of humanity, fulfilling God’s command to “be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth” (Genesis 9:7).

I know this may not make sense to most women but as I wrote earlier...IT'S MY Opinion with vivid scriptural references so let's have your contributions.

Encyclopedia1:
He is just a big fool

Habba! E never reach that level nah!

asuustrike2009:
The same Matthew was talking of one wife one husband. If it wasn't important Jesus wouldn't have quoted Gen 1:27,Gen 2:24. The Bible is clear on that. Matthew 19:6 say the two shall be one it didn't say the four shall be one.

At Anytime a marriage is consummated,it is between one man and one woman which makes it clear that anytime marriage is mentioned in the bible it reflects one man and one woman but that does not mean a man can not marry 10wives if he wants cos there is no place in the entire bible that calls polygamy a sin.

Adultery and polygamy are totally different.

Pierohandsome:
they were never regarded as wives in the first place. The one recognized as wife is the first one u Married, the other 2 u married after are not wives by scriptures so they are free to re-marry. It is the first wife that is regarded by God as a wife and she cannot re-marry

To slap you dey hungry me...You are just firming your own opinion with no scriptural back ups.

BabaAgba79:
First, it is a sin to divorce ur wife except on the basis of adultery. Any one that marries more than one wife in the traditional setting has not sinned. If he becomes born again, he cannot separate from the wives. The bible recognizes all the women as wives No place in the Bible tha says anyone who becomes born again shud put away the other wives. Paul only advised both Timothy and Titus that leaders in the church must be husband Of one wife. Which means among the congregation, there can be polygamists. The only thing is dat polygamists shud not be allowed to be leaders or elders in the church. Restitution of things in the bible does not include separating from the other wives. Can they return the virginity and all other copulations? It is knowing more than God himself wen we tell men to divorce the other wives! Other wves are wives and recognized so by God and the bible.

LOBATAN! You just saved me the stress of making comments.

Pierohandsome:
Yes, u cannot be marrying 2-3 wives and be sleeping with them and claim to be born again. U must return the last 2 u married and keep the first wife. That is whn u are really born again, not jst returning them, u must be responsible for their upkeep until they re-marry

Can you back this up with the scriptures?

makydebbie:
This guy will make a good writer.

Life is hard oo, see epistle all for nudes that she may decide not to send.

At least we still have a guy who is not into sex dolls.

sexybbstar:
Egbon Toks, it's been a long time. Are you not on WhatsApp again?

I'm still there but with a different number...

Berlyn1:
we meet again

I suppose get one babe for nairaland o...too many fine chics here.

sexybbstar:
The guy is a Nairalander

So iwo omo yi shan to yi...
Let me not say what's on my mind.

Berlyn1:
I didn't know this things also give birth. ...

You again!

Berlyn1:
hahahaha where are you flying from first? ?

Somewhere outside naija

Berlyn1:
So beautiful...... olorun pick up my call

He just picked it....but you must stop crushing on lalasticlala cos I can't be dragging you with him.

kimbraa:
LOL. It's only ignorant men/guys who assume dolls would replace women. There's a void your doll can't fill that after sex with it, you'll still not be satisfied. Just grow up! And quit throwing the doll thing around.

I'm never in support of sex doll but mark my word....in less than 10years from now,you will be amazed at the advancement

TunezMedia:
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/punchng.com/zainab-balogun-sends-message-to-future-husband/amp/

Let her come back to U.K make we see.

zoedew:
Citizens are dying they are dining! Unfortunate and insensitive to the mood of the Nation.

The irony of life is that life must go on no matter what happens to me ad you.

Just secure your eternal life in Christ Jesus so that when you leave this world,you will enjoy a greater life in paradise and care less who laughed or cried over your demise.

yarimo:
Chai everywhere you visit in nigeria is sai BABA til 2023

#istandwithbuhari

Zykod:
Ahahahaha

body no suppose run from body Toks

Don't mind them jare...shakara everywhere..you greet them common to answernah wahala...to woo them nah big problem but now you can go get a life like doll of your perfect spec lol! I see China mass producing soon and guys will be like...

Tunde:Omo if you see my new dolly,I just order am from Japan
Emeka:Forget my guy...my own nah German made...if you see her body you go melt.
AY:I hear say dem don do one wey dey cum....lol!

EmagNig:
Delectable Nollywood Actress and filmmaker, Maryam Charles has presented her own opinion on the trending sex doll topic, and she is of the school of thought that the dolls can never take the place of a “real girlfriend.” And broke guys cannot even afford the sex doll.

In a post she made on her Instagram today, Maryam Charles says the sex dolls are not even meant for guys that are not loaded as each costs a whooping N800,000.

Maryam Charles also stated the things that a real girlfriend can do, but a doll can't

She says:



http://lailasnews.com/broke-guys-cannot-buy-a-sex-doll-actress-maryam-charles/

Madam there are dols already doing all you listed just that those ones are custom made but very soon they will create the type that will even cook for you if they haven't already.

God forbid that I go with a intimacy gadget when there are succulent warm blooded super curvy ever sexy ladies out there.

The problem with ladies is shakara....you tell them to come closer nah problem but now that guys are settling for alternative they are ranting.

God help us.

3 years together and you tag it long term girlfriend. ..what will you call 10years? forever term..

nduprincekc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dydkDLnaVH0&itct=CCgQpDAYACITCKbkh4eQ2tgCFQuxVQodqHUAJTILYzQtb3ZlcnZpZXdaGFVDLXFJWkQ4cEEwZ3VKVjduaVFUY2s3UQ%3D%3D&client=mv-google&gl=NG&hl=en






ladies check your bra now.


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The world is wicked oo

Ignorance everywhere...

First thing to know is that there is a wide range of bras and pads (foam, silicon, micro-beads, or gel pockets).

The type concerned in thid video is the one with pockets gel. This kind of pads is often found in push-up bras. It helps, as it name suggests, push breasts up and make them feel and look more natural. In most cases, the pockets which are filled with glycerin or silicone gel which is the fluid like substance poured out and very harmless to the body.

Dimples129:
Maybe the Mrs is aboard, since he was seen leaving the country, straight after this drama

But dey don catch_em, his face is viral so his Mrs will soon know.

Fvckboiz proclaiming love; this is what happens

You ladies prefer fck boys over responsible ones innit...

udeness:
When companies start saying women won't get 90days maternity leave with free pay since men don't enjoy the same.....this shout go reduce small.....(that's me joking though)

I just feel nature has made us differently, some situation and circumstances favour men than women and vice versa...all this shout for equality should be personal...any woman that wants to break into the world of exploits and dominate is welcomed....

over the years, women are the ones that have limited themselves causing men to take over...

Enter any masters degree or PhD class..u will see more men than women..was there a policy limiting applications from women?

It's the few ones strong enough not to let family or society pressures drag dem down eventually stand out...

we have seen enough women doing ground break exploits better than men...even in politics..we shaa have female presidents abroad....but no law will come and say,"okay oooo because of gender equality every other electoral season...only female contestant must be allowed to give room for female leaders.....

Let women begin to take the bull by the horn, slay in academics, slay all round and not only dressing half naked, pouting, sticking tongues out like puppies on social media and not expect derogatory and pulling down comments from their male rivals....

My opinion though...I might be wrong...

Insightful

SpareNo1:
Lol. You don't get it. When a girl proposes to a dude and he accepts, he will still have to buy the official ring and all that. It's more like 'see, I'm tired of waiting, take me to the altar already'. I don't see it as any big deal tbh. If the guy is ready, loved the girl and he's always had in mind the plan to 'marry' her someday, I don't think he'll decline

And the last sentence, I'll even make my move before she gets to the point of proposing to me

This was why I created this factual thread but lalasticlala no Wan push am to main page...

https://www.nairaland.com/3871796/when-nigeria-gender-equality-bill

It's only in shithole countries that expired gas cylinders are painted and sold as new.

Please if you using gas cooker abeg check the cylinder well to be sure it's not expired to avoid O.M.G

R.I.P to the diseased.

Azonto dance moves.

Lalasticlala do you agree with this?