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 Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 2:36pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]May I ask you the Yoruba words for "god" and "deity"? If you do not know, there is nothing wrong with that.[/quote]hello, this is yoruba culture and tradition and not english! olórun(god) is different from irúnmolè(deity). So dont make any confusion here. God and god are the same? |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 1:13pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=sweet_gala]Ndu chucks what exactly is your business with the office of the Ooni or the 201 Yoruba deities. You only seem to be here to enrage and offend Yoruba people. You have in this thread debased and ridiculed Yoruba tradition. To put facts out there Okunade Sijuwade is not the first Ooni to be active within the Anglican commune. Bofore him Titus Martins Adesoji Aderemi was a treasurer of St Peters Church Iremo and worshiped there till his death in 1980, though no churches were built within the palace during his reign he invested much effort in developing the church. I am his grandchild was christined at that church as several of his children, grandchildren and great grandchildren,that is our family church and hold our ceremonies there and my grandmother was 2yrs ago honoured with a post at said church so nothing new. All these don't take away from our tradition, I know for a fact Sijuwade was denied my grandfathers heart to eat as is customary cause my grandfather claimed he did not partake of such when he Ascended the throne due to his Anglican faith. I don't want to throw skeletons out that can dirty the royal house of which I belong but I'll tell you this the current ooni is very fetish and practices all religions available to him. He is however publicly Christian.[/quote]dont mind the guy, he is on his project and he needs material. Instead of him to bury his pride an paste it as a topic if he would see some1 that will help him out. |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 1:08pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I would have preferred that you tried to provide corroboration for your stance instead of asking me for proof. Since you don't appear to know the answers to these questions, I'll tell you the source of my information which I believe is better than hearsay by some faceless elders. My information came from the book "City of 201 Gods: Ile Ife In Time, Space and the Imagination’ and In My Father’s Parsonage" by Harvard University Professor of World Religion, Prof. J. K. Olupona. I did not get the information from some illeterate chief who is ready to sell his soul for N100,000. The truth of the matter is that you people do not even know exactly how many deities you have. I bet you cannot name 30 of the deities, if you can name only 30 of the 201 or 401 of them, I will offer you a public apology, right here and now. This seems like a dumb question. I think it is safe to assume that the Ooni is a Christian who is dedicated enough to build a Church inside the palace. Now if you claim that, the Alafin, like many confused Christians in the SW, also worship other juju gods, you may have a point, though you are yet to prove that either.[/quote]ooni as a christian base on your assumption, and also some1 who worships just one God!http://www.yorubareligion.org/_con/_rubric/detail.php?nr=1678&rubric=News&PHPSESSID=6uu7ldfh36m2670l5bjfmfai56 |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 12:50pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I would have preferred that you tried to provide corroboration for your stance instead of asking me for proof. Since you don't appear to know the answers to these questions, I'll tell you the source of my information which I believe is better than hearsay by some faceless elders. My information came from the book "City of 201 Gods: Ile Ife In Time, Space and the Imagination’ and In My Father’s Parsonage" by Harvard University Professor of World Religion, Prof. J. K. Olupona. I did not get the information from some illeterate chief who is ready to sell his soul for N100,000. The truth of the matter is that you people do not even know exactly how many deities you have. I bet you cannot name 30 of the deities, if you can name only 30 of the 201 or 401 of them, I will offer you a public apology, right here and now. This seems like a dumb question. I think it is safe to assume that the Ooni is a Christian who is dedicated enough to build a Church inside the palace. Now if you claim that, the Alafin, like many confused Christians in the SW, also worship other juju gods, you may have a point, though you are yet to prove that either.[/quote] |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 12:50pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I would have preferred that you tried to provide corroboration for your stance instead of asking me for proof. Since you don't appear to know the answers to these questions, I'll tell you the source of my information which I believe is better than hearsay by some faceless elders. My information came from the book "City of 201 (1)Gods: Ile Ife In Time, Space and the Imagination’ and In My Father’s Parsonage" by Harvard University Professor of World Religion, Prof. J. K. Olupona(2). I did not get the information from some illeterate chief who is ready to sell his soul for N100,000. The truth of the matter is that you people do not even know exactly how many deities you have. I bet you cannot name 30 of the deities, if you can name only 30 of the 201 or 401 of them(3), I will offer you a public apology, right here and now.(4) This seems like a dumb question. I think it is safe to assume that the Ooni is a Christian(5) who is dedicated enough to build a Church inside the palace (6)). Now if you claim that, the Alafin, like many confused Christians in the SW, also worship other juju gods(7), you may have a point, though you are yet to prove that either.[/quote](1) ife dont called them 401 gods but deities. (2) appeal to authority http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ife (3)need for naming them? Jst like saying i should name the over 260languages in nigeria (4) your apology is as useful as a paper in the dustbin which i dont value to me (5)argumentum ad ignorantium (6) irrelevant ground (7)hasty generalization. Back to the point now! So you expected every news about ooni to be dispensed by the media? Ooni is a christian as you said, how come he takes part in the olojo festival. Or christianity is about worshipping Jesus and Ogun together? |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 12:15pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I would have preferred that you tried to provide corroboration for your stance instead of asking me for proof. Since you don't appear to know the answers to these questions, I'll tell you the source of my information which I believe is better than hearsay by some faceless elders. My information came from the book "City of 201 Gods: Ile Ife In Time, Space and the Imagination’ and In My Father’s Parsonage" by Harvard University Professor of World Religion, Prof. J. K. Olupona.appeal to authority! I did not get the information from some illeterate chief who is ready to sell his soul for N100,000. The truth of the matter is that you people do not even know exactly how many deities you have. I bet you cannot name 30 of the deities, if you can name only 30 of the 201 or 401 of them,why do i need mentioning them? Just like saying i should mention the over 260 languages in nigeria. I will offer you a public apology, right here and now. Your apology is as useful as the paper in the dustbin that is useless to me. This seems like a dumb question. I think it is safe to assume that the Ooni is a Christian unwarranted assumption! who is dedicated enough to build a Church inside the palace argumentum ad ignorantium!. Now if you claim that, the Alafin, like many confused Christians in the SW, also worship other juju gods, you may have a point, irrelevant ground! though you are yet to prove that either.[/quote]you haven't given the link and proof! |
| Politics › Re: Free Transportation For Oyo Workers From January —ajimobi by Tolexander: 12:00pm On Dec 23, 2012 |
talkmarkay: Which one is better?neither is better of course. But what am sayin is this, Is the free transportation free indeed or there is a place where the workers pay for the transportation which is not disclosed? Cos the free should be absolute base on this media release! |
| Politics › Re: “i’ve Not Forgiven Obasanjo.. Will Not Forget What IBB Did To Me…” – Buhari by Tolexander: 10:58am On Dec 23, 2012 |
obasanjo's forgiveness doesn't change anythin about obasanjo, nor do forgetin IBB makes IBB reduced. But there is fire on the mountain paradventure he becomes the president. |
| Politics › Re: Why Is Prof Achebe's Name On NL Hall Of Shame? by Tolexander: 10:50am On Dec 23, 2012 |
inu ibu ni agbalagba n ni, agbalagba kii ni oro ibu(na bad mind elders dey gat, elders no dey gat bad words) but for achebe's case, he has the two i.e both bad mind and words. Though he is an excellence as a fictionist |
| Politics › Re: Odili: How Jonathan Displaced Me As Yar’adua’s Running Mate by Tolexander: 10:45am On Dec 23, 2012 |
arookan ni o n mu asundake wa (too much renaissance of the past breeds continous tears). Besides, does he feel he could revert the fait accompli of obasanjo! 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: Power Generation Hits A New Peak Of 4,502.2 Mw by Tolexander: 10:35am On Dec 23, 2012 |
funny! One step forward later 100 steps backward. |
| Family › Re: Would You Ask Someone Else To Discipline Your Child For You? by Tolexander: 10:29am On Dec 23, 2012 |
ba mi na omo mi, ko de inu olomo(abegi, follow me beat ma pikin no reach the belle of the pikin malle). |
| Christianity Etc › Re: How Do You Differentiate Between The Holyspirit And Your Conscience? by Tolexander: 10:25am On Dec 23, 2012 |
when you have an holy concience, you should be able to do so. |
| Politics › Re: Free Transportation For Oyo Workers From January —ajimobi by Tolexander: 10:00am On Dec 23, 2012*. Modified: 10:17am On Dec 23, 2012 |
omo rere a ma ti inu ibon jade bi (can a good thing come out of a barrel)? Free transportation for oyo state workers as if oyo state workers have nothing to pay for it. Who knows if the free transportation cost would even outweight their initial personal cost for transportation when they give them their salary after the 'free' transport had been deducted. SMH for the nigerian politcians and their propraganda! |
| Politics › Re: Everybody, Including Bbc Are Talking About Biafra (SEE VIDEO) by Tolexander: 9:53am On Dec 23, 2012 |
na today? Since 1966! Biafra or no biafra, George Orwell had said it all in animal farm. Nigerian leaders prior to independence collectively fought for independence. but now what is the situation? What about the case of two brothers that fought collectively against an uncle's claim of their father's property. They won the battle. They then had to fight the next and greater stage of the battle which is haw they were going to share the property within themselves. Biafra republic! I bet the ebonyi will stil gat a cultural and moral disparity from anambra leading to incessant dispute likewise will be in other biafran places. A kii so fun omode ki o ma dete, ti o ba ti le da igbo gbe (person no dey tell pikin make he no gat leprosy if e fit stay for inside bush alone) |
| Politics › Re: Kilimanjaro Capital Ltd Signs Trade Agreement With Pro Biafra Group by Tolexander: 8:16am On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=Yeske!]Worse than i thought. . . . .[/quote]cos u were not born to know, think and discern the correct things |
| Politics › Re: First Nigerian Newspaper, Iwe Irohin, Resuscitated 140 Years After It Died by Tolexander: 8:12am On Dec 23, 2012*. Modified: 11:39pm On Dec 24, 2012 |
demmy:if i can stil remember those time of labe igi orombo, a mi rele o baba, alade wuwo, obo oba, adiye mi and so on! A aja B bata D dode E ejo E eye F fila G gele GB gbaguda H hila I ile J jagunjagun K koto L labalaba M malu N nagudu O ogun O obo P panapana R rakunmi S salubata S sago T tafatafa U uku uku W wahala Y yanmuyanmu 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 7:26am On Dec 23, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I feel sorry for the confused lot who have 201 gods who are pulling them every which way. The Ooni who serves only one God seems to be wiser than you people. If Ooni's actions do not show you that your 201 gods are useless, nothing else will. No wonder the most SW muslims seems incapable of practicing true Islam and most of their Christian "Pastors" are money pastors. SMH I'd suggest that people should not wastre their time in trying to reason with people like narrow minded babapupa. His "cogent" points are usually filled with name calling and other abuses just like eko ile's.[/quote]since u believe there should be a proof to every news. Provide a proof and link that there are 201 gods! Provide a link that Ooni has worship just only one God! These are questions you must answer pronto! |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 10:09pm On Dec 22, 2012*. Modified: 10:54pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]With due respect, I need more than tales from elders to buy what you've said. As you can tell from this thread, many Yoruba sons have differing opinions about the origin and role of the Ooni, so the facts that you schooled in Ife town and certain elders told you certain things, are not convincing enough for me. Such a pronouncement by the Ooni and its accompanying renunciation must have been publicized or documented. Please provide any evidence you have other than hearsay to make your claims believable[/quote]haw does it affects me if you bought it or not? I narrated my own memoir of the incidence of what i heard from chiefs and priest you are asking for a link that has nothing to do with your daily living. If you are not satisfied with it, then leave it or better still go to the palace and ask the ooni himself for full confirmation. Chinua Achebe wrote his own memoir of the civil war, did he provide a link for it, or is he an ominiprescent that was present and witnessed every events that preceded and during the civil war? Yet you stil believed he said the truth! |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 9:04pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
[quote author=tpia@]i dont see what's so unbelievable about his claim. Not a big deal either, imo. what do you find mysterious in what he said?[/quote]thank u jare. I wonder o! Just making a storm out of a teaspoon |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 8:42pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]This is quite interesting. Can you provide any evidence to support the idea that Ooni became sick because of his renunciation of idol worshiping? It appears to have been a coincidence at best, if Ooni was sick right after the said renunciation. Secondly, I'd appreciate any evidence to support the notion that Ooni reverted the renunciation. I'm here to learn. Have you been satisfied in your mind that these deities are more than a mere figment of your imagination? If so please share with me how you arrived at the conclusion. Thanks in advance.[/quote]am in ife town schooling from childhood. And besides i have elders who are chiefs and clergy that always go to the palace often that do tell me what happens in the palace in enuwa. Do i need giving a link to what i know? |
| Politics › Re: Why Must Mr. Labaran Maku, Lie About Nearly Perishing In The Crashed Chopper by Tolexander: 6:30pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
he didnt lie naw cos that is the truth! He was just lucky not being in the chopper. Even u and i were lucky cos if we were in the chopper, we would perish. But we were not there. |
| Politics › Re: Yoruba Is The Second Most Widely Spoken Language In Southwark, London by Tolexander: 6:25pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
but unfortunately, the yoruba they speak is not the real one but hybridized and diluted yoruba language. |
| Politics › Re: 500 Police College Recruits Expelled For Theft, Forgery by Tolexander: 6:19pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
GistVillage: he Nigeria Police College has confirmed that about 500 recruits, have been dismissed for various offences.just pitying the unlucky ones dismissed. Guess they had no strong politician to back their forged certificate up like the others not dismissed. |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 5:56pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
[quote author=ndu_chucks]I feel sorry for the confused lot who have 201 gods who are pulling them every which way. The Ooni who serves only one God seems to be wiser than you people. If Ooni's actions do not show you that your 201 gods are useless, nothing else will. No wonder the most SW muslims seems incapable of practicing true Islam and most of their Christian "Pastors" are money pastors. SMH I'd suggest that people should not wastre their time in trying to reason with people like narrow minded babapupa. His "cogent" points are usually filled with name calling and other abuses just like eko ile's.[/quote]bro! It is not 201 gods but 401 deities. Ooni doesn't serve one god. He participates in every spiritual appease to many of the deities either in appearance or absential, most especially olojo festival of ogun worshipping that always take place in oke moogun. Few years ago he tried renouncing idol worshipping and said he wouldn't be participating in that years olojo festival but he became sick to the point of death and had no choice and faith than to revert his renounciation. Igbos mostly practice catholism and catholism has its roman culture acquisition to the christianity they practise like all these xmas, rosery and co likewise yorubas with the christianity diluted with indigenous religions. |
| Politics › Re: Achebe’s Biafra Memoir In IOS Best Books For 2012 by Tolexander: 3:49pm On Dec 22, 2012 |
ngozievergreen: seriously, dats y i quit chatting with him. No facts(well,dey are not dere), just name callingsacting as if she understood all the incompactible combos half baked bread |
| Politics › Re: Jonathan Steps Into Sambo’s N16billion Residence Contract Row by Tolexander: 11:33am On Dec 22, 2012 |
Sincere 9gerian: Budget office and ministry of finance in conjunction with relevant ministries, departments and agencies of govt PREPARES the budget PROPOSAL. The budget proposal goes thru the NASS. It is after the budget has gone thru and APPROVED by the NASS, that it goes back to the executive, first to the BPP and finally thru FEC, where the president and ministers will deliberate and approve the contract. |
| Politics › Re: Jonathan Steps Into Sambo’s N16billion Residence Contract Row by Tolexander: 11:32am On Dec 22, 2012 |
Sincere 9gerian: Budget office and ministry of finance in conjunction with relevant ministries, departments and agencies of govt PREPARES the budget PROPOSAL. The budget proposal goes thru the NASS. It is after the budget has gone thru and APPROVED by the NASS, that it goes back to the executive, first to the BPP and finally thru FEC, where the president and ministers will deliberate and approve the contract.the budget is a prepared expenses for a period of time by the various federal ministries headed and screened by the appropriate ministers, an executive arm of goverment. The ministers then show the budget proposal to the president for screening. Then the ministers through the budget committee, and the finance ministry sits to determine the financial and monetary evaluation and implication of the budget proposal if it can be met, reduced or jettisoned. After the screening the budget is then returned to the executives headed by the president for final assay. The executives will now send the budget proposal to the legislative to deliberate on before naw returning to the president to sign. Can he sign what he hasn't gone through? Budget is not a script that can be written for the president as you have said. |
| Politics › Re: Jonathan Steps Into Sambo’s N16billion Residence Contract Row by Tolexander: 9:58am On Dec 22, 2012 |
Sincere 9gerian: If you feel Mr President should know every item contained in a 5trillion budget, then goodluck to you.insincerenigerian. Who makes the budget? An executive arm of government make the national budget. And who is the head of the executive arm? Do u think national expenses is something that can be sent without the president screening and signature? |
| Politics › Re: Jonathan Steps Into Sambo’s N16billion Residence Contract Row by Tolexander: 9:55am On Dec 22, 2012 |
Sincere 9gerian: If you feel Mr President should know every item contained in a 5trillion budget, then goodluck to you.insincerenigerian. Who make the budget? |
| Politics › Re: Nigerian Government Abandons Ribadu Report. by Tolexander: 8:48am On Dec 22, 2012 |
Okonjo iweala's mum, 82years old sitting by her grave and ready to enter was kidnapped. A very huge ransom that is worth 100times the mums burial expenses demanded. And u said he wouldn't ignore the report? Jonathan no gat liver naw. Make them kidnap Patience abi? |
| Politics › Re: Moremi Shrine Must Replace That Church At Ooni Palace by Tolexander: 5:11am On Dec 22, 2012 |
moremi shrine must replace the church at ooni's palace and mozambique shrine should also replace the mosque in ooni's palace. |
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