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[quote author=Wisdom-Me]Did he speak all those grammers or were the modified?[/quote]Trust me, if you are used to watching this man speaks live, you will understand and believed that Prophet T.B Joshua actually speaks those grammar!

All I can say...."Prophet T.B Joshua is a Special Breed"

Prophet Temitope Balogun Joshua of the Synagogue Church of all Nations spoke with Punch's Bosede Olusola-Obasa on myriads of controversies surrounding his person and ministry. Read the chat below...

People say that you are very humble despite your popularity, how do you achieve this?
If you have passed through what I have passed through, you will even be more humble than I am.

Like what?
Things that can make people to be humble. You just think of it. I have good health and God shows me what I would have been in terms of sickness and death; it humbles me and I want to use my good health for him. At times, God shows me how people are suffering and the thought that it could have been me keeps me humble. For instance, if I did anything wrong during this interview, when you may have left, God will caution me. If I am not humble, I will be out of track. If I was not in the house of God, I would be one of the touts in the motor parks (the Agberos)

Why is it that your ministry seems to be more popular outside Nigeria than in Nigeria?
I want to offer the same prayer for you: that God should make you more popular outside your country than in your country. Let other countries introduce you to your country. I think that is better. As it is written in the Bible, a prophet has no honour in his country. I am not an evangelist or a pastor, I am a prophet. It is the word prophet that was used in that scriptural passage, not evangelist or so. If my people had understood the work from the beginning, it could have affected the glory of God in my life today. If people understand your vision from the beginning, you may not go far. It is better they don’t, they will understand later and by then, you would have been very strong and God would have strengthened your desire. Praises and adoration can make you a local champion.

Where are the people that Nigerians praised from the beginning? I can mention some – even men of God, who are no longer living today, so many founders – CAC, Cherubim and Seraphim, Church of the Lord and so on. We should get this understanding that those who were local champions in the past did not reach international recognition. Look beyond the ministry job to the secular world, was it Nigeria that introduced Prof. Wole Soyinka to the world? But when he became a Nobel Laureate, he became more powerful; when he talks, everyone wants to listen. Whereas there were some other local champions that even when they were dying, nobody took their news to CNN. They don’t know them. God has a way of raising people by throwing the image to the international community. Even the footballers that are notable became acceptable to Nigerians when they belong to international clubs. I may not be accepted by some people in Nigeria but my acceptance in the world has been announcing me to my world. When you look at the people working with me, you see that the ratio of Nigerians working with me are not more than 10 per cent.

What is the special attraction that brings heads of government to synagogue?
You have said it all, where there is demand, there is supply and in that place, there would be enough anointing to do the work. God will not allow people to go to a place where there is no supply. It is not possible. I observe that if three chairs are added to this church today, you suddenly find people filling it and if four are removed, it is just the number of people that will fill the chairs that will come. I have studied that from the beginning. Sometimes when I see some ministries printing handbills, using signboards to advertise the church, I say those things are not necessary. God is the one inviting people, if you allow him to do it, the solution to their problems will be waiting for them. But if you take it upon yourself to do the advertisement, people that God is not expecting will come along with them and there will be crisis and trouble. You just continue doing your work and leave the advert for God, then those that God didn’t invite will not come and there will be peace and tranquillity.

You should not go out to start saying ‘I can heal, I can deliver.’ At synagogue, our critics are our advertisement. They are people that don’t want to hear about us. They tell other people that ‘that church is devilish;’ unknowingly, some of the people they tell get inquisitive and they will want to come here and see what a devil looks like since they haven’t seen one before. God has been using this as advertisement for us. Ninety per cent of people who come here do so in the bid to come and verify what they had heard about this church. When some of them get here, they will sit at the back, fearing that they could be hurt. Some put on dark glasses or disguise in a way that will not allow people that know them to recognise them. But before the service is over, some of them will pick up their bags and move to the front seats. They eventually become my prayer warriors.

Let me tell you something that amazes me and that I always thank God for – those who are with me are more than those that are against me. They keep supporting me all over the world. I have more, more, more people around the world. Whenever I say this, tears flow from my eyes (sobs for a while). These are tears of joy. I get so sad when I hear people’s confession when their eyes become open to what God is doing here. Some say, ‘I wish I had known this, my mum would not have died. She asked me to bring her here but because of what I was hearing about this place, I refused until she died. I hope that she will forgive me.”’

Is President Goodluck Jonathan on the list of heads of government that patronise your services?
When it comes to relationship, I think he would be in the best position to answer that question. Since what we are doing is creating impact around the world, you should expect Nigeria’s president to also be part of it. We are praying for the nation and being a Christian acknowledges it. If Jonathan had been here, it would have been shown on our Emmanuel Television network. No president has ever visited this place in secret. The Bible says that if you confess me before men, I will confess you before my father in heaven. I am not a witch doctor; we have nothing to hide. If you have not read in the newspapers that your president came here, then that is that. Anytime presidents of other countries come here, Jonathan is usually aware. If he doesn’t believe in what we are doing, he would have told them that we constitute security risks.

What is your relationship with President Jonathan, Does he speak with you on phone?
Don’t rush me. Let me finish answering the last question. Now, you would answer the question yourself; have you read that he came here, have you? My sister, you have said it all. What phone call are we talking about?

How do you tell the president when you have an instruction for the nation?
I say it on the television and all over the world. I accept that is not enough; it is better to see him one on one.

But what is the essence of a president’s visit if he won’t follow what I will tell him? This kind of trend keeps staining my name. I will not mention anybody, when they leave here; they do not obey the instructions.

But what are these presidents looking for in your church?
The reason why people visit a man of God is to receive instructions, his opinion about them or their country. But if they don’t follow it, yet the whole world knows that they are close to TB Joshua, it has no benefit.

Are you saying it’s no big deal that presidents visit you?
It is no big deal. Except they obey the counsel given to them, it has no benefit. It is not something to be proud of. At least, seven presidents have visited this place since inception. But each time presidents come to this place, I get query from God. When they come around, you won’t have time to attend to other people. They will block the road with their security and at the end of the day, they won’t do what you advise them to do.

People say that your generosity is used to woo people to your church. How do you react to this?
How much will I give to the president of a nation to come here? Even when they come, I don’t get any financial gain but I incur cost because I want to ensure that they are well cared for. That is all; I even prefer to spend my time with the poor than to be with the presidents. If a president visits this place today, the whole of the day will be devoted to that visit, I would have lesser time for the poor people, who need my attention. God has been warning me over this trend so much that when some presidents said that they wanted to visit me, I said no. I said it would be better for me to visit them in their countries.

Each time they visit this place, I receive query from God because of my time that should have been used to attend to the poor and the needy that are waiting for me. One soul is not superior to the other, why should I continue to receive query? Really out of three presidents that may visit, there will hardly be one that will show good example of the counsel that they received from me. If the needy are more receptive to God, it is better to give them more of my time.

Still on generosity, why do you ask people to display items given to them on camera, is it proper?
We do so to encourage other people to do likewise. Some of them are physically-challenged or indigent people who do not even have bank accounts, so we have to give them cash. We don’t want them to be duped, but we don’t do that often anymore.

Isn’t it a deliberate way of advertising what you are doing?
It is not so.

But we don’t see such things in other churches?
Every man of God has his own habit. Habit is a gift from God. Like Daniel, whenever he wants to pray, he will open his window, that is his habit. The disciples of Jesus prayed six times a day; that is their habit. It is not that we are showing off. When people see what we are doing, they learn how to be good givers. If you do everything privately, what will people write about? Jesus fed the 5,000 people in the open, not in secret. That is why it could be written. When the tax collectors came to him, he did not hide to say, ‘I don’t want them to see that they want to collect money from me.’ Even when he healed a man and they asked him how he did it, he asked them to go and ask the healed man.

You said God speaks to you, how does he speak to you?
Faith must first be in the heart before there could be an accepted confession. That means faith must first be in the heart before there could be an acceptance of prayer, request, talk from God. Faith is of man’s heart, which is spirit. Heart literarily means a different thing from the spirit. You use your faith to put a demand.

So, how do you get those prophecies – picture or voice?
I use my faith to place a demand. You don’t understand what I am saying. Let me put it this way, faith is a channel through which the anointing flows. That means you use your faith to put a demand and ask for whatever you want. If there is faith in your heart, you can close your eyes and make a demand that you want to know what is happening around the world and before you know it, you will see the vision. There is what you call a measure of faith – deep, deeper, deepest faith. I don’t know which level you belong. Faith grows as we hear the word and obey it. We are not all at the same level, but all things are possible to him that believes. What is possible for you may not be possible for me.

But many people see you as mystical, they think you are not a believer in Jesus Christ; that you belong to some other sect. What is the source of your power?
Your question is funny. We don’t get power, it is faith we have. The power in our life is released by faith through our mouth. The issue of getting power is wrong. We don’t talk about getting power here. If you don’t have faith, power will remain dormant. In Mark, Jesus said this kind won’t be possible but by prayer and fasting. The disciples had power but lacked faith to release it.

Coming from you directly, who are you?
Nigerians cannot tell me who I am. The percentage of my people around the world is more than those in Nigeria. I am celebrated around the world. Go on the internet, Emmanuel TV is the most watched. Forget about anybody, I don’t need to promote myself. Even Jesus could not win everybody’s soul.

Are you a Christian, do you believe in Jesus Christ?
The word Christian is a title. How do you know that those people talking believe in Jesus Christ when Christianity is a matter of the heart?

But are you a child of God…
That is what I am correcting you about; that someone said he is a Christian doesn’t mean he is. If somebody says he belongs to this or that fellowship, only God knows. It is not about confessing that I am a prophet, a pastor, only God knows who is serving him. A mango tree cannot bear coconut. What you believe radiates around you. I’m more than that kind of confession. If anyone doesn’t believe me, they would when the time comes.

But why don’t you belong to a Christian body?
Christianity is not an association. Let us talk about Christianity. I don’t celebrate religion. I am a follower of Jesus; I am a Christian, that is all I know. I will invite you to come and worship here this Sunday. I am known by my love, not by my association, so whether Pentecostal, Catholic, Charismatic, Methodist, who is serving God? I don’t judge people but people can judge me. All I know is that my persecution has been a blessing; I have been tamed by it. It has strengthened me. I am a Charismatic.

So, who anointed you into the ministry?
I have told you about faith. You know that Elijah anointed Elisha, but can you tell me who anointed Elijah? So you see God can choose to do it the way He wants. Because I don’t want to hurt you, I don’t know which circle you belong to, maybe your own pastor was anointed by a man.

Are you still very close to Pastor Chris Oyakhilome?
Please, don’t drag me into all that. I beg you.

What about the issue of Jim Iyke?
Oh please, don’t drag me into that. All I can say is that if a person needs to see a doctor, he should be free to do so. I like the young man. He has been defending himself on the internet. Is he not enjoying a better life now? Are things not working for him?

Why are all these stars always coming to your church?
Please I don’t want to talk about that.

What about your alleged link with the release of Major Al-Mustapha?
Which one are you saying again? Please spare me that. I will give you time to come back and talk on that.

You are reputed for predicting football matches correctly, how far will Nigeria go in World Cup?
I can’t say that now. I will give PUNCH the privilege of getting my prophetic messages once they come out.

Why is it that people don’t know your family members?
I don’t expose my family. I hear people saying that I don’t have a wife and that I have no child. That is the news everywhere. You have seen my wife and this is a photograph of my daughter.

Why is it that your wife does not preach like other pastors’ wives?
My wife is a very wonderful woman. She believes in receiving her own call. She does not just want to hold microphone because her husband is a pastor.

Men of God need to take care of their children. My daughter studied Law she is doing her PhD in Harvard and she is coming back home to preach the gospel. She loves to preach.

Is your wife the one responsible for your looks?
I love to look good too; it is 50-50 anyway. She has been a great woman to me. She has been a great source of encouragement in the midst of my challenges. She is different in the sense that she said I was the one God called, so she is waiting until she is called by God to be a pastor. That is unlike what most men of God do, they believe that once they are called, their wives must be pastors too.

When are you buying your own private jet?
When one is at the airport to catch a flight, you see that many have become like Molue. They could disappoint you by saying the flight has been cancelled. Even when you eventually get on board, people keep thronging you for one reason or the other. The person serving you the meal may be someone that needs deliverance, by giving you food, she will deliver you. There was an experience I had when travelling by air for a trip of about nine hours. I was pressed but couldn’t go and ease myself because I had to queue like other people before I could use the restroom. Besides, I thought that some of those people could go to the toilet immediately after I had used it in expression of faith, so I remained glued to my seat all through the journey. That would not have been if I was flying a private jet. Or if you are a man of God that snores and they see the pastor sleeping and snoring, they will think he shouldn’t snore. Meanwhile, he is human. So a man of God should have a private jet if the situation demands it.

Who should pay for it?
If the use is for the church, the church should buy it, own it and manage it. It should not be bought in the pastor’s name. When he is no longer there, the jet remains the church’s.

Big organisations have a need for crowd management, how did you handle the stampede case in Ghana over holy water?
I know where you are going, don’t go there. Why don’t you let’s leave that please.

What inspired you to owning a football club?
It is the desire to help people realise their dreams. There are other social platforms that we use to help people.

Still on prediction of football matches, is God not too busy to talk to you about that?
The same God speaks about everything. God is aware of everything. It is all about the faith that you have; it manifests even in small things. We need to know how much we need God.

But people said you see a crystal ball that aids your predictions?
Don’t you wonder why I am the only one saying it and it is coming to pass?

What about your influence on the stool in your village in Ondo State?
Don’t drag me into that, I will not go there, maybe next time.

http://www.olufamous.com/2013/11/god-queries-me-whenever-politicians.html

plaindealer: Today, defections doesn't bother them, but tomorrow, they panic and make desperate moves...


At least, they are smart enough to read and comprehend the writing on the wall..

I purposely post this thread to wet you clowns appetite, if you don't mind you may want to place your bet that Jonathan is going to be your President, my President and our President come 2015! Are you willing to place your bet now?

One thing I know about Jonathan is that, he will win the 2015 Presidential Elections hands down....all these APC display of politics of bitterness can not stop his victory come 2015! Jonathan will prove his critics wrong #team operation weed out the dissidents#

Rattled by the defection of five out of its seven aggrieved governors to the All Progressives Congress, APC, it is now clear to President Goodluck Jonathan and the National Working Committee of the Peoples Democratic Party that things are not the same anymore.

Consequently, an emergency meeting has been scheduled for next Monday to deal with all the issues.
According to Punch, the party’s leadership at the meeting would determine the fate of the rebel governors. It was further gathered that the emergency meeting would, among other things, decide on what punitive measures to be taken against the governors and all the lawmakers who are set to join them.

Sources close to the party told Punch that President Jonathan and the PDP leaders are afraid that there could be a mass defection of PDP members in the National Assembly to the APC.

They are afraid that PDP is heading towards a minority status in the National Assembly.

“We are going to consider all the legal options before deciding on punitive measures for the governors and lawmakers that defect to the APC.

“Nothing is on the table yet, but I can assure you that the PDP will hit back. One of the punitive measures we will consider is impeachment of the governors and how feasible it is. By Monday, we will unfold our strategies. Also, we must ensure that the PDP does not become a minority party in the National Assembly,” an insider told Punch in Abuja.

http://www.olufamous.com/2013/11/jonathan-begins-counter-operation.html

Sexkillz, I am here again to remind you of this thread, kindly unlock it, and let it be on again especially as Anambrarians have decided to do the right thing today by voting in their consciences, thanks in advance;
https://www.nairaland.com/1502888/anambrarians-wise-learn-us-ondo

Anambrarians Congrats to you as you reject SLAVERY and tow the path of honour by voting your conscience, just like we did in Ondo State; https://www.nairaland.com/1502888/anambrarians-wise-learn-us-ondo definitely, I did not open that thread for nothing! God bless you all ANAMBRARIANS

Princess2be: Ngige was sighted yesterday at his Olde English hotel in GRA Awka
crying as he was on the phone
complaining bitterly to Tinubu and
Buhari on how he suffered a major
defeat of his life..

Buhahhahhaaaaaaaa the guy (Ngige) never cry cry me a river, cry cry grand pa bunch of losers

[quote author=elvis_osho]Does this signal the death of ASUU? Click like if yes[/quote]You are damn right, I just clicked 'Like' on your post! ASUU are pests and parasitic in nature, it has allowed itself to be used by marauders just for political cheap points forgetting that they are in the academics and should at least for the sake of the oath they swore to while being employed to dish out their best in the discharge of their duties as conveyor of knowledge! Check out the number of months students have been wasting away at home and you come back and tell me how Jonathan is to be blamed on this selfish grandstanding of these PESTS! ASUU is pursuing their own selfish interests, they don't give a damn about what becomes of these students, that is why we have so many half-baked graduates roaming the streets today, nothing more, nothing less!

There are things worth knowing and reading about while one is alive, this is one of those things! @ Op, you have done a good job worth commending which I believed deserves to be appreciated! Unfortunately, despite these shocking revelations, many are still hellbent in having the sadist, Buhari, as President of this Nation! Truly, many Nigerians are special breeds of humans!

ammyluv2002: This babe is very wise! She accepted those boys like hers...she's well trained! I'm really impressed with her, she's truly a wife material

You have just been gamed if you believed what you wrote up there, if she fails to accept them don't you think she would be the loser? Tuface's money is speaking here babe, open your eyes and see things that it's not about the kids from other women but the money flowing from Tuface's pocket

Correct guy @Op, your head dey there, Iroko is working!

Awada KeriKeri Like say I dey look Baba Suwe

sunnydayasaba: With the way things are unfolding, Jonathan will find 2015 very difficult, he should pray that APC brakes up before 2015 election else..he will lose the election. No PDP governor or senator can be trusted again most especially frm the northern part of d country.

You are still missing the vital point here, Jonathan is not afraid to lose many more Governors from PDP, Jonathan wants a strong and trustworthy structure in his new PDP, and 2014 is just the year he would need to achieve just that! At the bolded, the same way I feel about those APC Governors and Senators

Could this be true? If yes, how does this stop Jonathan from winning in 2015? Over to the debaters as usual..............."Operation get rid of the dissidents from Jonathan-Controlled PDP"

These are not the best of times for PDP, following its dirty politics in Anambra State. Fresh fact has emerged that the PDP governorship candidate in Anambra, Comrade Tony Nwoye, may join the All Progressives Congress (APC), going by some nocturnal meetings between him and the party officials in the state.

A source close to Nwoye’s campaign organisation, who pleaded anonymity, disclosed that Nwoye is now on the verge of dumping the PDP for APC where he has been offered a better deal for 2015 politics.

According to Daily SUN, Nwoye may get the APC's House of Representatives election ticket in 2015. It was gathered that Nwoye’s move to APC is a result of overtures by Senator Chris Ngige.

“Ngige had been able to convince Nwoye that he was not wanted in PDP by citing events before, during and after the November election,” he stated.

Ngige was reported to have reminded Nwoye how President Goodluck Jonathan refused to raise his hand at the rally in Awka, shortly before the election and also how the PDP national leadership had maintained a strange position from Nwoye’s on the outcome of the November 16 Anambra election.

If PDP should lose a strong grassroot politician like Nwoye to the APC, then 2015 will indeed be interesting.

http://www.olufamous.com/2013/11/anambra-election-fallout-nwoye-to-dump.html

http://www.naijalately.com/news/fallout-of-anambra-polls-nwoye-may-join-apc

oluwashaddow: God bless u gal....I beg I go like know u oooooooo

just like that......?

Gbawe: They are now complaining. Only in Nigeria. Did these shallow and opportunist profiteers, with nil power sector knowledge, not do their feasibility study to see what they are getting into? Wait, I forget it was AGIPs, oligarchs and callous profit-seekers who won ' transparent bids' for conceded power Stations and utilities.

I stand vindicated. Anyone can check the archives to see I talked of the danger of how "pseudo-privatisation" may be all GEJ will deliver given the ultra-corrupt and amoral "awon boyz" government he leads that is midwifing the "privatisation" of our power sector. Everyone heard "privatisation" and the premature jubilation began. We all forget that numerous evidence, far too many to count, show that the current PDP government , just like others before it, is the sort to cynically bastardize and ruin processes by putting personal aggrandizement above everything else . This is why every institution tha should be independent in Nigeria today remains heavily compromised and unable to delivey.

What, as I argued in the past, was wrong with giving, as first line solution in a true federalism, Nigerian States the freedom to device their own electrification solution As Fashola, Amaechi and other serious Governors demanded? Instead we had Abdusalami, a soldier turned Politician, and his rapacious layman sort 'winning' bids all over the place. Not good at all. It was always going to end in tears. Nigerians, enjoy your "privatisation". You deserve it for thinking thieves could care about you when their actions show they live to fleece you. I sincerely hope the "privatisation" of the power sector works for Nigeria but excuse me for being cynical.

As usual, "The Epistle according to Saint Gbawe" so in your warped views, is there anything wrong in privatizing an ailing sector? Definitely, if an APC fellow were to be the President who did this, it will be alright, a move in the right direction, a flawless initiative according to the bloody hypocrite I used to know and still know, Gbawe! Keep it up!

osaxx: @brabus........................very wrong analysis.......tinubu is a killer...plenty blood stains......jonathan.....yet to assasinate anybody.......jonathan promoting true democracy by not influencing the judges in court......tinubu destroying democracy with influencing the judge salami to win south west states.....

so tell me, how is tinubu anywhere compared to ur president.......or u think jonathan doesnt know how to play the 'do or die' politics tinubu is playing.......jonathan only chooses to be a gentleman......and some stupid nigerian mistake his gentility for stupidity....i sorry for u all.....jonathan will surprise u all in due time......then u will know the true mafian at heart....
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Abeg tell them my guy, they must have forgotten according to the Mafian Code that, "Revenge is a meal best served cold" they are really taking Jonathan's gentle nature as a sign of cowardice, like you said, "I sorry for dem all"!

Definitely, APC will have more than enough problem to deal with on the long run going by their unholy alliance. I am loving this internal squabbles manifesting, APC is not meant to LAST!

This is a rich thread, I am loving it!

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nutarious: Am telling You and Clowns like You that even Obasanjo in all His wisdom and power no win TINUBU. He is a Man That have payed His dues.Lastly, he stood behind Jonathan for prexy...we are aware of the fact that Jonathan Had a meeting in Aso wt Tinubu during his election and Tinubu Helped Him......Only Osun did not Vote for Jonathan............Yet the MUMU prexy got their on our Vote only to start Tribalism GOvernance. Cry me a Lagoon.....

Little wonder you called Tinubu your father and leader.....ok I am watching

nutarious: Tinubu is Our leader in The WEST.
.1. ---This man fought a military Government wt Nadeco(Abacha)
2.----he fought Obasanjo to the lastman even when all his elder Ad governors were fooled.this Man stand gidigba
3.--did his best as Lagos state Governor
4---Gave Lagos sometn they wl never regret
5-- Fashola for Lagos unlike stupid OBI repeating his shadow Governance
6--- the Only man to form a party that is the talk of the town.
7--- now fighting Jonah not because he is SS or IGBO but because he is daft and dosnt deserve to be on tht seat or second term
8----talk till tomao! If u like call him thifnubu But only Baba Awo has don More for the Yoruba race than This man



Lastly, a man use 4yrs and even his Kinsmen are still wallowing in poverty. How can such a man impart on us all. A man tht beleives in Nigeria as a tribal Prexy can't rule us All. We wish this story was rewrote and a Brillant Son of SS were our prexy. We can't continue to suffer and smile .......................Boys no dey smile again, Boys dey ParaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaH

What is this one saying.............

osaxx: THE SAME CORRUPT INEC MADE YOU GOVERNOR FOR 8 YRS, MADE UR PUPPET FASHOLA GOVERNOR FOR 8YRS, NOW U LOOSE ELECTION THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE.....I DEEEEY VEEEEXXXX.....IF I CATCH DIS TINUBU GUY ONE ON ONE....I WILL SPIT FIRE IN HIS FACE....RUBBISH

Nairaland no go kill pesin with too much laff

Ok...... is it not the same Lagos, Headquarter of APC, where the Speaker of the Lagos State House of Assembly, Hon. Kuforiji is enmeshed in one of the biggest sleaze in Lagos history? Ok I am listening Jagaban Sir,

Idi Amin: The truth is that APC doesn't fit Oshiomole. He is too descent to be associated with those 1diots

I Like THAT

This is a belated move, although still on course! Baraje and his gangs ought to have been chased out long before now......I am waiting patiently for Jonathan's next move come January 2014!

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