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dayokanu: Tomakint,

Any thought for the January 15 1966 coup which brought all these problems in the first place?

Or you dont see anything qwrong in Ibo soldiers killing other regional leaders and sparing theirs? That is perfectly ok by you?

If it should happen anywhere in the world its a definite declaration of war

Or do you believe in the alibis for all the Ibo leaders Azikwe, Okpara and Osadebey that Ibo historians try to feed us with?

Like I said, Ibos believe they are smart and others are foolish

dayokanu: Tomakint,

Any thought for the January 15 1966 coup which brought all these problems in the first place?

Or you dont see anything qwrong in Ibo soldiers killing other regional leaders and sparing theirs? That is perfectly ok by you?

If it should happen anywhere in the world its a definite declaration of war

Or do you believe in the alibis for all the Ibo leaders Azikwe, Okpara and Osadebey that Ibo historians try to feed us with?

Like I said, Ibos believe they are smart and others are foolish

whitecat007: ;DWho died and gave you the authority to choose who leaves or stays here? you lack integrity just like your people. reason you had to first deny who you are before commenting. why do you want to be yoruba you hate so much? you really need to go and take your medication. Also do any of these sound like a joke to you? no way you are Yoruba, the ability to see the big picture has eluded you or what happened to action and consequence? don't ever in your miserable life hide under yoruba to spew the garbage you just did here again. I hope your psychiatrist finds you before you get shoved in the mouth of an 18 wheeler, Alawoku kobokobo.

Katsumoto: 1. Awolowo advised Ojukwu not to go to war because everyone knew the end result but Ojukwu retorred that he had the biggest army in Black Africa and was prepared to meet the North on the battlefield. So Awo left him to his devices.

2. Yoruba sons (except those in the Army before the start of the civil war) remained neutral until Biafra advanced on Yoruba soil. At which point Yoruba elders advised their sons to enlist to fight the enemy. Yes at that point, Biafra had become the enemy.

3. Wole Soyinka in his book "To Set Forth At Dawn" stated that Awo may have been assassinated if he didn't serve in that administration

4. Wole Soyinka was imprisoned for 26 months for supporting Biafra, Col Ayo Ariyo resigned his commission rather than fight Biafra, Ijebu farmers union were beaten and killed by Col Ochefu for protesting against the war. But where were the Igbo men when Balewa and Azikiwe conspired to jail Awo and when soldiers were unleashed on the West between 1963 and 1965?

5. If you have issues with Awo saying they couldn't feed their enemies to fight against them what will you say about Ojukwu charging fees to charities bringing in FREE food for starving Biafrans? Who was the leader of the Biafrans? Awo or Ojukwu? Who should love the Biafrans more? Awo or Ojukwu? When Biafra couldn't feed its citizens, why didn't Ojukwu surrender? Who abandoned his people leaving them at the mercy of an invading army? Awo or Ojukwu?

6. Did Awo force the North (Balewa, Bello) into a union with the East (Zik)? Did Awo force Igbo sons to murder leaders from the West and North while helping theirs to escape or forgetting the roads to their houses?

7. Did Awo make Ironsi promulgate Decree 34 which gave Nigeria the unitary style of government the same decree 34 that Ojukwu embraced in March 1966 but rejected in August 1966 after his kinsman was no longer in power?


If you must comment on the actions and utterances during the war, then you also comment on actions that led to the civil war. Awo never wanted Nigeria but was outvoted by the other regions. He was simply doing what was best for his people.

Shadoky: Distance relationship is a very big threat to the heart which can lead to suicide when d unexpected happened. Am just recovely 4rm d heart brake, tank god 4 saving my life.

whitecat007: There you go, same old recycled BS lying through your teeth is what you ibos do best, congrat!
See question ooo. I thought Awo was involved, and he already gave his own account which is more believable than the one coming from a dimwit like achebe.

demmy: Fake Yoruba, quit whatever crap you're smoking because it ain't working for you. Meanwhile in real world...

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olawalebabs: why is there no igbo among the victims.

chief batiatus: You probably have a little point but let me take u back to a small fact all ibos characteristically love to forget easily - the ibo hatred all started when the mostly-ibo coup plotters of 1966 killed sardauna as head of northern region, akintola in the west, tafawa balewa and then assisted okpara to escape! That singular act showed everybody that the ibos take all other nigerians as fools. This same attitude has not left ibos to this day, you can askk any other tribe except yourselves. Did your father tell you that even for many weeks after sardauna was killed the north was calm? Our family was in kaduna then and am not hausa pls, but I tell u authoritatively that just a few weeks after sardauna's killing ibo traders had already made calendars with caricature of sardauna burning in hell and the ibo traders thrust this in the face of anyone they find saying 'see your god roasting in hell'. This among other contributory factors lead to the widespread outrage against ibos, but I tell you few ibos living today will admit that given their nature. My brother married an ibo lady and uptill today she has not relented from proving how smart she thinks she is - this is the problem of ibos. So my guy go and sit down and hear your history properly and change what you can. Always remember that nothing hurts people like after cheating them, you now call their attention to how foolish they were in the first place! That kind of hatred takes very long to die. And lastly even in any situation if you discover many people hate you, sit back and stop ranting, look inward and you might find a shocking revelation

olaheavy: The Igbo human eaters call us cowards and betrayers. Okay, here we go: who is a coward? Is it a fluke who ran away to Ivory Coast in a female regalia (Ojukwu) or a very brave civilian who was frequently seen on the warfront inspecting the atrocities of some renegade soldiers (Awolowo)? Who is a betrayer? Is it Awolowo who stood by his promise to keep the Yoruba out of the war unless either of the two enemies (Hausa and Igbo cannibals) ventured into Yorubaland or the lying bastard, Ojukwu who promised not to touch the West, but actually went off by bombing Lagos and invading Yorubaland through Ore? Who's is a coward? Is it the Yoruba who performed so honorably and gallantly in the battlefield or the Igbo savages who were plagued by marasmus and kwashiokor and eventually forced to eat the rotten remains of their fallen Igbo compatriots before their oloju rangandan leader, Ojukwu, fled the war? Who is a coward? Is it the Yoruba who are always steadfast, calculating and tactical or the Igbo scavengers who always flee both the North (Pogrom and Boko Haram) and West (June 12 riots) in buses and trucks anytime there is a chaotic situation? And the Igbos are like goats - they always go back to where they were once driven out. After the chaos subsides the Igbos (goats) will always go back to Yorubaland and the North even though they know they're hated with a passion by the Hausas and Yoruba! Pathetic he-goats and she-goats, who love to eat human beings, Igbos are the basest of the peoples of the world!.

ayobase: Or could it be beaf reincarnating!
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Well, one thing still amuses me here. The Igbos are blaming Awolowo, and not even blaming Ojukwu for ANYTHING. Is there something they are missing?

demmy: A fake Yoruba. Pathetic but cute.

bid4rich: does it then mean that it will never work in all stance? Think! While it may work for some few, it may not work for some other people. It all based on how you started it and the kind of emotion you have towards each other. But that doesnt mean that it will not work in all cases

ilugunboy: O'shey yoruba !!...stop the deceit. come out clean and let's know how to handle you.

What is the meaning of that in bold?

demmy: A fake Yoruba. Pathetic but cute.

Eze Promoe: 2015 no go easy o. Igbo, middle belt, north and others all want the presidency. Hmmm. Hope i will be outta the country by then.

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Yorubas are the Problem with Nigeria – By Sanusi Lamido Sanusi
Via Elombah.com. Wed, 05/27/2009 – 11:01

By Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the Prospective Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria

In sum, the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned by Balarabe Musa, has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests and reciprocating goodwill from other sections of the country by treating other groups with respect. Practically every crisis in Nigeria since independence has its roots in this attitude.

i. The Yoruba elite and area-boy politics;
ii. Igbo marginalisation and the responsible limits of retribution; and
iii. The Yoruba Factor and “Area-boy” Politics.

See also The Adulteress’ Diary by Lamido Sanusi

My views on the Yoruba political leadership have been thoroughly articulated in some of my writings, prime among which was ” Afenifere: Syllabus of Errors” published by This Day (The Sunday Newspaper) on Sept 27, 1998. There was also an earlier publication in the weekly Trust entitled ” The Igbo, the Yoruba and History” (Aug. 21, 1998).
In sum, the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned by Balarabe Musa, has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests and reciprocating goodwill from other sections of the country by treating other groups with respect. Practically every crisis in Nigeria since independence has its roots in this attitude.
The Yoruba elite were the first, in 1962, to attempt a violent overthrow of an elected government in this country. In 1966, it was the violence in the West which provided an avenue for the putsch of 15th January. After Chief Awolowo lost to Shagari in 1983 elections, it was the discontent and bad publicity in the South-West which led to the Buhari intervention.
When Buhari jailed UPN governors like Ige and Onabanjo, the South-Western press castigated that good government and provided the right mood for IBB to take over power. As soon as IBB cleared UPN governors of charges against them in a politically motivated retrial, he became the darling of the South-West. When IBB annulled the primaries in which Adamu Ciroma and Shehu Yar Adua emerged as presidential candidates in the NRC and SDP, he was hailed by the South-West. When the same man annulled the June 12, 1993 elections in which Abiola was the front-runner, the South-West now became defenders of democracy.

When it seemed Sani Abacha was sympathetic to Abiola, the South-West supported his take-over. He was in fact invited by a prominent NADECO member to take over in a published letter shortly before the event. Even though Abiola had won the elections in the North, the North was blamed for its annulment. When Abdulsalam Abubakar started his transition, the Yoruba political leadership through NADECO presented a memorandum on a Government of National Unity that showed complete disrespect for the intelligence and liberties of other Nigerians.
Subsequently, they formed a tribal party which failed to meet minimum requirements for registration, but was registered all the same to avoid the violence that was bound to follow non-registration, given the area-boy mentality of South-West politicians. Having rejected an Obasanjo candidacy and challenged the election as a fraud in court, we now find a leading member of the AD in the government, a daughter of an Afenifere leader as Minister of State, and Awolowo´s daughter as Ambassador, all appointed by a man who won the election through fraud.

Meanwhile, nothing has been negotiated for the children of Abiola, the focus of Yoruba political activity. In return for these favours, the AD solidly voted for Evan Enwerem as Senate President. This is a man who participated in the two-million- man March for Abacha´s self-succession. He also is reputed to have hosted a meeting of governors during IBB´s transition, demanding that June 12 elections should never be de-annulled and threatening that the East would go to war if this was done. When Ibrahim Salisu Buhari was accused of swearing to a false affidavit, the Yoruba political elite correctly took up the gauntlet for his resignation.

When an AD governor, Bola Tinubu, swears to a false affidavit that he attended an Ivy League University which he did not attend, we hear excuses.

For so many years, the Yoruba have inundated this country with stories of being marginalised and of a civil service dominated by northerners through quota system. The Federal Character Commission has recently released a report which shows that the South-West accounts for 27.8% of civil servants in the range GL08 to GL14 and a full 29.5% of GL 15 and above. One zone out of six zones controls a full 30% of the civil service leaving the other five zones to share the remaining 70%. We find the same story in the economy, in academia, in parastatals.

Yet in spite of being so dominant, the Yoruba complained and complained of marginalization. Of recent, in recognition of the trauma which hit the South-West after June 12, the rest of the country forced everyone out of the race to ensure that a South-Westerner emerged, often against the best advice of political activists.

Instead of leading a path of reconciliation and strong appreciation, the Yoruba have embarked on short-sighted triumphalism, threatening other “nationalities” that they ( who after all lost the election) will protect Obasanjo ( who was forced on them). No less a person than Bola Ige has made such utterances.

To further show that they were in charge, they led a cult into the Hausa area of Sagamu, murdered a Hausa woman and nothing happened. In the violence that followed, they killed several Hausa residents, with Yoruba leaders like Segun Osoba, reminding Nigerians of the need to respect the culture of their host communities. This would have continued were it not for the people of Kano who showed that they could also create their own Oro who would only be appeased through the shedding of innocent Yoruba blood.

I say all this, to support Balarabe Musa´s statement, that the greatest problem to nation-building in Nigeria are the Yoruba Bourgeoisie. I say this also to underscore my point that until they change this attitude, no conference can solve the problems of Nigeria. We cannot move forward if the leadership of one of the largest ethnic groups continues to operate, not like statesmen, but like common area boys.

iii.The Igbo Factor and the Reasonable Limits of Retribution.

The Igbo people of Nigeria have made a mark in the history of this nation. They led the first successful military coup which eliminated the Military and Political leaders of other regions while letting off Igbo leaders. Nwafor Orizu, then Senate President, in consultation with President Azikiwe, subverted the constitution and handed over power to Aguiyi-Ironsi. Subsequent developments, including attempts at humiliating other peoples, led to the counter-coup and later the civil war. The Igbos themselves must acknowledge that they have a large part of the blame for shattering the unity of this country.

Having said that, this nation must realise that Igbos have more than paid for their foolishness. They have been defeated in war, rendered paupers by monetary policy fiat, their properties declared abandoned and confiscated, kept out of strategic public sector appointments and deprived of public services. The rest of the country forced them to remain in Nigeria and has continued to deny them equity.

The Northern Bourgeoisie and the Yoruba Bourgeoisie have conspired to keep the Igbo out of the scheme of things. In the recent transition when the Igbo solidly supported the PDP in the hope of an Ekwueme presidency, the North and South-West treated this as a Biafra agenda. Every rule set for the primaries, every gentleman´s agreement was set aside to ensure that Obasanjo, not Ekwueme emerged as the candidate. Things went as far as getting the Federal Government to hurriedly gazette a pardon. Now, with this government, the marginalistion of the Igbo is more complete than ever before. The Igbos have taken all these quietly because, they reason, they brought it upon themselves. But the nation is sitting on a time-bomb.

After the First World War, the victors treated Germany with the same contempt Nigeria is treating Igbos. Two decades later, there was a Second World War, far costlier than the first. Germany was again defeated, but this time, they won a more honourable peace. Our present political leaders have no sense of History. There is a new Igbo man, who was not born in 1966 and neither knows nor cares about Nzeogwu and Ojukwu. There are Igbo men on the street who were never Biafrans. They were born Nigerians, are Nigerians, but suffer because of actions of earlier generations. They will soon decide that it is better to fight their own war, and may be find an honourable peace, than to remain in this contemptible state in perpetuity.

The Northern Bourgeoisie and the Yoruba Bourgeoisie have exacted their pound of flesh from the Igbos. For one Sardauna, one Tafawa Balewa, one Akintola and one Okotie-Eboh, hundreds of thousands have died and suffered.

If this issue is not addressed immediately, no conference will solve Nigeria´s problems.

By Sanusi Lamido SanusiBeing Excerpts from A Paper Presented At The “National Conference On The 1999 Constitution” Jointly Organised By The Network For Justice And The Vision Trust Foundation, At The Arewa House, Kaduna From 11th –12th September, 1999.

Read the full essay here:

http://www.waado.org/nigerdelta/Essays/BalaUsman/Sanusi_Restruct uring.html

See also The Adulteress’ Diary by Lamido Sanusi

nku5: You are welcome sir. I am always pleased to see a person resist seduction of clannishness and bigotry, even he is a lone voice. Unfortunately so many are yielding to the dark attraction of xenophobia and extremism. Its very very obvious when I log on to this site.

emmatok: Thesame way you ibos make noise in kano and Sokoto.
If that cripple wants another war.
Then he should be in front on his wheelchair.

obiyor2000: my brother jst tnk God 4 ur own, but u never can tell what has happend b/4 d introduction, i ve seen a lady who is 2 some 1 outside, but b/4 den many guys has crossed d red sea, so will u tell me dat d were not commicating then? I dont like d idea of distant relationship

ITbomb: Broda , at this stage I believe we are too entwined to be divided.
What we need is true federalism.

bid4rich: everything that work is being made to work, until you work it nothing will ever work. I worked mine and its working like fire. Check yourself and ask yourself sincere and articulate question, then you can know where you get it all wrong

tope3x: long distance relationship works for me, i have been dating my girl for 9 years, before i traveled out of the country 2 years ago,and i go home every 6 months to see her, and we still keep intouch always.even did my introduction last april, and wedding is coming up soon...so it depends on how you take the relationship, and mutual understanding is needed.

simdam500: It is not easy to maintain a long distance relationship. But if you have one, you must take care to keep it alive, for over a long period of time, a long distance relationship might not work. How would you know if your long distance online relationship is fading? There are certain signs you should look out for. The major

1. You communicate less
You have begun to communicate lesser and lesser. You do not find talking to him amazing anymore and the magic has reduced. Also, you do not look forward to talking to him again sooner. The initial excitement has faded and you now are looking towards moving on. It is a sign that the relationship is now fading.

2. He takes time to reply to your messages
You have sent him a message but he is taking ages to reply. If it is once in a while, the reason could be genuine. But if it becomes habitual, remember that he does not consider you crucial in his life anymore and it is a sure sign that your long distance relationship is now fading. You may also find that you do not want to be connected to him round the clock any longer.

3. He cannot find time for you readily anymore
Earlier, he was readily available to talk to you over the phone or have a video chat when you wanted. But it now seems that he is finding it more and more difficult to find time for you. The reason could be genuine, but if he really loves you, he will definitely find a way to be able to talk to you. But if it seems that he is putting no effort to be available for you, it could be a sign of a fading relationship.



4. He is acting aloof
If his behavior has become cold recently and he seems to be acting more like a stranger, it could be a sign that he is seeing someone else. If he is acting aloof, you might consider rethinking the relationship as it could be on the verge of breaking up.

5. Neither of you is ready to compromise
In case of a long distance relationship, it is essential that both visit each other sometimes. But if you have discovered that for the last few days, he does not find time to be able to visit and you and/or you do not want to spend a nice holiday or weekend to go and visit him, it is a sign that the relationship is not working anymore.

6. He talks to you only when he is alone
If you find that your long distance boyfriend talks to you only when he is alone, he could be hiding you from his friends and family and the reason behind it could be that he is no longer considering you as his future life partner. It is a sure sign that the relationship is fading.


http://www.magforwomen.com/6-signs-your-long-distance-relationship-is-fading/

nku5: I respect you for your honesty. You will live long