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Northern bashing by south, southern bashing by north- its this bashing of regions by other regions, that people focus on instead of finding ways to improve their lives.

Dont know why Africans find it so hard to look beyond their ingrained prejudices. Or at least learn how to get along and use your excess misplaced energy for progress instead of regress.

sheesh.

Thor:
The list you gave means very little, they were only eaten in life and death situations when no other food was available and not as a standard menu item.

to me it is still disgusting

you must not have read the list well.

You can call it disgusting without attacking people personally. Or making unfounded generalizations.

phenomenon:
Hi guys!

Interestin topic!


When I was to do my Internship, I wanted to work at a Teaching Hopital because I wanted to be in the academic environment so I can practice and learn more. there were very few slots at the teaching hospitals. I waited almost a year before giving in to the volunteer job they call 'supernumerary' at a Teaching hospital because I could not bear the thot of not doing the Internship within the 2 year limit. Supernumerary simply means you don't get paid but don't get treated differently from someone who gets paid. That is how I completed my internship. I only supported myself with private practice that I did when i was not on call and some family support that I had to solicit for.


Someone tell me how wrong I am for feeling this way.

You're very right for feeling this way, just as my friend overseas who did his own supernumerary without pay for a year, in order to get into a residency program, was also right to feel bitter some of the time. He supported himself meanwhile by doing various odd jobs including security and burger flipping. Many Indian doctors also do the same (ie work without pay in order to get their foot in the door)

Its a question of location. Which location is better to do it in.

dyabman:
yes it is my page on myspace.

and forgive me.

you committed no crime that needs to be forgiven.

Next time, just use I instead of WE.

Am sure the lady would also find you very attractive.

Thor:
Disgusting and a true show of lack of culture, upbringing and moral fibre

Dog eat Dog

Your African bashing is starting to get out of control.

Here are other countries where dog meat has been consumed. Kindly bash them as well.

Arctic and Antarctic
Dogs have historically been an emergency food source for various peoples in Siberia, Alaska, northern Canada, and Greenland. Sled dogs are usually maintained for pulling sleds, but occasionally are eaten when no other food is available.

Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen famously ate sled dogs during his expedition to the South Pole to survive. By eating some of the sled dogs he was able to transport less dog food, thus lightening his load.

Canada
Consumption of dog meat is taboo in mainstream Canadian culture. However it may be practised by some cultural minorities. In 2003, health inspectors discovered four frozen canine carcasses in the freezer of a Chinese restaurant in Edmonton.[12] Subsequently, the Edmonton health inspector said that it is not illegal to sell and eat the meat of dogs and other canines, as long as the meat has been inspected.[13] In the end, these four particular canine carcasses were found to be coyotes. Ed Greenburg, an official with Edmonton's Capital Health Region, said the fact that the animals were coyotes doesn't change anything and inspectors are still looking into the possibility that uninspected meat was served at the restaurant. Under Canada's Wildlife Act, it is illegal to sell meat from any wild species. There is no law against selling and serving canine meat, including dogs, but it must be killed and gutted in front of federal inspectors


China
Dog meat has been a source of food in parts of China from at least the time of Confucius, and possibly even before. Ancient writings from the Zhou Dynasty referred to the "three beasts"(which were bred for food), including pig, goat, and dog. Mencius, the philosopher, recommended dog as the tastiest of all meats. Dog meat is sometimes euphemistically called "fragrant meat"  or "mutton of the earth"  in Mandarin Chinese and "3-6 fragrant meat" in Cantonese.

France
In France, dogs were widely eaten during famines

Germany
Dog meat has been eaten in every major German crisis at least since the time of Frederick the Great, and is commonly referred to as "blockade mutton." In the early 20th century, consumption of dog meat in Germany was common. In 1937, trichina inspection was introduced for pigs, dogs, boars, foxes, badgers, and other carnivores.Since 1986 dog meat is prohibited in Germany.

Controversy
Use of dogs for meat and the methods of slaughter used have generated friction between dog lovers, both Western and Korean, and people who eat dogs; the conflict occasionally breaks out as headline news. During the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul, Korea's capital city, the South Korean government asked its citizens not to consume dog meat to avoid bad publicity during the games. The controversy surfaced again in 2001 during the 2002 FIFA World Cup.
Today in Korea, a segment of the population enjoy bosintang (literally "invigorating soup", believing it to have medicinal properties, particularly as relates to virility. Dog meat is also believed to keep one cool during the intense Korean summer.

Switzerland
According to the November 21, 1996, edition of the Rheintaler Bote, a Swiss newspaper covering the Rhine Valley area, the rural Swiss cantons of Appenzell and St. Gallen are known to have had a tradition of eating dogs, curing dog meat into jerky and sausages, as well as using the lard for medicinal purposes. Dog sausage and smoked dog jerky remains a staple in the Swiss cantons of St. Gallen and Appenzell, where one farmer was quoted in a regional weekly newspaper as saying that "meat from dogs is the healthiest of all. It has shorter fibres than cow meat, has no hormones like veal, no antibiotics like pork."


wiki

You can make your point about eating dogs without descending to a personal level.

No need to start displaying your prejudices and low self esteem in the name of feeling superior.

All tribes should try to stop bashing each other with such intensity as if their own tribe is a perfect one.

Pipe dream, I know, but really, this tribal bashing doesnt show maturity at all.


Asari is even an Alhaji. I'm surprised he's castigating the north.

Nigerians stand to gain the comfort of knowing a "black man" is in the "white house".

The dinner organizers, on the other hand, may stand to gain some juicy contracts under or above the table.

Dubai maybe.

@ Nigeria1: I dont know about you, but in my own village, development has been through the govt or through people/politicians working for the govt.

landis:
1. We need state Police. We can't simply get away from it.
This will make it impossible for police from one state to come and arreast you in another state.

one thing I agree with in your post.

landis:
3. Nigerian abroad should be accorded better treatment.

this is the kind of attitude that will earn you a visit from armed robbers.






@ topic: the judge needs to be reported to the NBA if she's not acting professionally. Even if they wont do anything about it, the complaint should at least be on her record.

And what kind of friend does this man have? Unless there's more to the story oh.

His enemy wouldnt do worse.

dyabman:
na wa ooooooooooooo


i don waka commot here.

buffalos

is that you on your myspace page?

and you're calling other people buffalos?

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tpia

Pictures don't lie, I see your inequality of thought process. If SA presented good and actual pictures of their country- its called propaganda, Nigerians can always live in squalor and hope that  no professional photographer will see  it. If I may ask is Nigeria allergic to professional photographers?  I don't know why people like you , in spite of your western influence think that being Nigerian is accepting the lowest common denominator of life.  We can do better.  Why is it  whining when folks like  you think that SA was and is built by white folks. As a matter of fact that black folks do not deserve any  praise for accelerating and spreading the economic potentials of that country. I'm not whining when folks like you  insist that  white folks were and are responsible for  anything positive in SA even when you have not acknowledged that  our economic mainstay-oil  is being drilled  by white folks. This is double standard, not whining. Get it ok.  Enough of this hawkish nationalism.

its very tiresome always having to educate some smartasses on this board.

So just because you're seeing some propaganda photos on this thread, that means there are no professionally taken pictures of Nigeria?

Yet when people do take high quality pictures of the country, folks like you will still come and whine about how they prefer to see pictures of Nigerian slums.

South Africa was built by and for white folks. Nigeria was built by and for Nigerians. Some of the construction is done by foreign companies for buildings that will be used majorly by Nigerians. last time I checked, Nigerians were mostly black. If you know better, then keep displaying your so called knowledge.

If you hire and pay a white contractor to build your house in Nigeria, , is that the same thing as a white man buying, constructing, owning the house and passing it on to his descendants. Think before you type.


A lot of foreign companies are in Saudi doing construction jobs. They are doing it for the pay, not because they want to settle permanently in Saudi.


Once again, if the oil is being drilled by white folks, so what? If white folks did not discover a use for the oil, would you be here complaining about it? Blind nationalism is what you are guilty of, since you refuse to face reality thanks to your delusional worldview. Instead of griping and whining about whites drilling the oil, why not try to find ways to use your own common sense creatively and in ways that will profit you personally., unlike what you're doing here.

are these people not terrorists?

nuzo:
Sorry to disappoint you again; im not a blind patriot.

People refusing to rain curses on their birthplace, doesnt mean they are blind patriots.

Your attitude says more about you than about Nigeria. You don't seem to have any coping mechanism when you're frustrated. That's not good. You're not even in the country yet you can't enjoy wherever you are because you're always busy making some lament about Nigeria.

Free your mind.

is your blind patriotism reserved solely for your perfect hometown?

Thor:
It is definitely true that blacks appear to be less educated and not as driven or ambitious as white people. Whether this is to do with the lack of good solid education or more genetically based I am not sure.

It also goes without saying that blacks normally destroy what they are given and treat things with disrespect. If you look at all the filth and squalor in Lagos, you will see that the average Nigerian has very little respect for where they live or their fellow human beings.

Your quote about sending Nigerians to the UK and UK citizens to Nigeria is so true, Nigerians would destroy Britain in no time for sure. You only have to look at the East End of London where the Black African communities live, they are filthy and crime ridden.

Thor, just because people are found in a ghetto doesnt mean they invented the ghetto.

If you can reveal where you're from, I'm sure a little investigation will uncover the slum areas there.



Try to read the following:

East End

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_End#Today

The East End came into being as the separate villages east of London spread and the fields between them were built upon, a process that occurred in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. From the beginning, the East End has always contained some of the poorest areas of London.


William Booth began his 'Christian Revival Society' in 1865, preaching the gospel in a tent erected in the 'Friends Burial Ground', Thomas Street, Whitechapel. Others joined his 'Christian Mission', and on August 7, 1878 the Salvation Army was formed at a meeting held at 272 Whitechapel Road. A statue commemorates both his mission and his work in helping the poor. A Dubliner, Thomas John Barnardo came to the London Hospital, Whitechapel to train for medical missionary work in China. Soon after his arrival in 1866, a cholera epidemic swept the East End, killing 3,000 people. Many families were left destitute, with thousands of children orphaned and forced to beg or find work in the factories.
In 1884, the Settlement movement was founded, with settlements such as Toynbee Hall and Oxford House, to encourage university students to live and work in the slums, experience the conditions and try to alleviate some of the poverty and misery in the East End.


During the 19th century, building on an adhoc basis could never keep up with the needs of the expanding population. Henry Mayhew visited Bethnal Green in 1850 and wrote for the Morning Chronicle, as a part of a series forming the basis for London Labour and the London Poor (1851), that the trades in the area included tailors, costermongers, shoemakers, dustmen, sawyers, carpenters, cabinet makers and silkweavers. He noted that in the area:

“ roads were unmade, often mere alleys, houses small and without foundations, subdivided and often around unpaved courts. An almost total lack of drainage and sewerage was made worse by the ponds formed by the excavation of brickearth. Pigs and cows in back yards, noxious trades like boiling tripe, melting tallow, or preparing cat's meat, and slaughter houses, dustheaps, and 'lakes of putrefying night soil' added to the filth ”
—Henry Mayhew London Labour and London Poor (1851)[

"Hardest of all, the Luftwaffe will smash Stepney. I know the East End! Those dirty Jews and Cockneys will run like rabbits into their holes. ”
—Germany Calling - Lord Haw-Haw, collaborator and broadcaster

Throughout history, the area has absorbed waves of immigrants who have each added a new dimension to the culture and history of the area, most notably the French Protestant Huguenots in the 17th century, the Irish in the 18th century, Ashkenazi Jews fleeing pogroms in Eastern Europe towards the end of the 19th century, and the Bangladeshi community settling in the East End from the 1960s.

In 1786, the Committee for the Relief of the Black Poor was formed, by citizens concerned at the size of London's indigent Black population, many of whom had been expelled from North America as Black Loyalists, former slaves who had fought on the side of the British, in the War of Independence. Others were discharged sailors, and some a legacy of British involvement in the slave trade.

The high levels of poverty in the East End have, throughout history, resulted in a corresponding incidence of crime.

Historically, the East End has suffered from under-investment in both housing stock and infrastructure. From the 1950s, the East End represented the structural and social changes affecting the UK economy in a microcosm. The area had one of the highest concentrations of council housing, the legacy both of slum clearance and war time destruction.

gadogado:
@deepzone

what do you feel when white people say this about you, have you read the lugard memoir i posted? you should!!how does this make you feel?? me, im not black, im lebanese but grew up in kano and lagos. my parents are lebanese born in lebanon. so how does this make you feel?? when powerful british intellectuals and officials say blacks are close to animals in terms of demeanor. what goes through your mind? when many white intellectuals say you are a lesser human being therefore closer to the animal than other races of the human family, what do you think??how does it make you feel you can't even prove them wrong. i think "from my experience" blacks are less intelligent than whites or lebanese people. prove me wrong if you can?? do you agree that you're inferior?

you're Lebanese? hmmm. Kind of hard to believe. Am sure you're muslim as well- you were defending the rights of almajiris in your other post.

Learn to make allowances for different eras. Its a well known fact that colonials were racist. Nothing new there.

If you do some research, you'll also find out what the British said about Arabs/middle easterners around this same era you're quoting here. I'm willing to bet it would be even more damaging than Lord Lugard's words.  Also, post a link to the full text plz.

Isnt it this same middle east which Europeans waged crusades against for hundreds of years? You want to start bringing up what people said about other races?

the pictures are interesting but they're too big, actually.


Tokyo is on my list of places to see someday. I've heard a lot about the place but I also heard they keep foreigners at arm's length. Anyway, as a tourist that shouldnt be a problem.

but he wont get fresh air in a suitcase. At least he'll be assured of that on a camel.

please, camel is better.

abeg Axis and Deepzone- you guys were discussing intelligently on this thread until tribal sentiment was brought in. 

At that point, the no holds barred slugfest began. Up till then, I was having an interesting discussion on the Fulani and Yorubas in kwara.

See as una dey yab each other's tribe as if say na Alamo una dey.

This is what I hate about tribalism. Every so often you hear the "nationalists" repeating the same old tired charges about each other.

Axis why not take it easy. Maybe you're new here- try to browse the tribalism section so you can get some idea of the[b] raw [/b] tribal sentiment so common to Nigerians and Africans. Which tribe are you, by the way, if you don't mind my asking. You tend to discuss like a Yoruba but you say you're not one.




@ Nigeria1: na percentage them dey take calculate Yorubaness? Wetin dey do Nigerians sef. All of you are still black and African, in spite of all your posing and grandstanding.  Even if you light pass moonshine, with hair longer and straighter than ostrich feathers, and even if you have a certificate proclaiming you're a direct descendant of an Egyptian Pharaoh/some local deity somewhere.

Make all of una carry go.


All this excess energy just because some _{attention seeking} militant called people parasites. As I said before- no part of Nigeria that isnt a parasite, including the Niger Delta.

reindeer:
you guys thank so much for educating nigerians about the welfare(or lack of it) of doctors,
if care isnt taken very soon we'll sart importing substandard docs to work in nija hospitals to work when all our own have fled from the harsh treatment.

I think theres hope if we try,lets plan for the future.

What makes other doctors substandard? Cuban doctors are very well trained, as are many others. Indian and Chinese doctors are also very good. They also make up an extremely high percentage of the medical practitioners abroad. Especially Indians.

So far people have voiced their various opinions on doctors' welfare. And as with most other sectors in Nigeria, the doctors go on strike every so often, for salary increases. After their own, nurses will also agitate and go on strike for better pay. The only people in that group who don't seem to down tools so often, are the pharmacists.

However, doctors abroad who work long hours for minimal wages, arent allowed to go on strike. Its one of the first differences I noticed between employment at home and employment abroad. Overseas, if your paycheck doesnt cover your bills, you either get another job or cut down your expenses as much as possible.

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^{yeah might not be magnificent as you said but atleast its truly black african built,}

So "African built' means substandard or black African built. Why do we have to use lowest common denominator to describe progress in Nigeria. Why are we not mentioning the fact  that Abuja was built by Julius Berger - foreign company but registered in Nigeria or that Nigerian oil is being drilled by foreign companies?

what's substandard with the pictures you're complaining about?

Have you ever heard of different camera and photo qualities? If a professional photographer takes the pictures for propaganda purposes (as was done with many of the south African stadium photos), then maybe you'll understand the difference. Please go easy with your whining.

If Julius Berger was the construction company handling Abuja and other places, so what? What exactly is your point here? If Nigerian oil is being drilled by foreign companies- so what?  Who discovered and invented the technology needed to drill oil? Was it Nigerians?

think before you whine, plz.

ADint:
For those who obviously are not getting the point, this was a press conference between Saakashivili and Condoleezza Rice yesterday on the Russian invasion of Georgia where they were finding ways to broker an acceptable ceasefire (this was carried live by all major international broadcasters). Corruption or Nigeria were not the issue been discussed here. Even if he chose to deviate from the issues at hand and talk about corruption, he has neighbours in that region with worse corruption records, so why Nigeria?

they may jump him if he dares mention their name.

DRANOEL:
some one actually wrote an article on why fulanis in ilorin don't like calling themselves yoruba fulani and his conclusion was that the fulani's there think the the yorubas are inferior

do you have a link to the article?

My opinion was some Yoruba people around that side consider the Fulanis inferior. It could be a mutual or religious thing, since Yorubas did not wholly embrace Islam the same way the north did.

besides, the Fulanis had to trick the Oyos in order to get a foothold in Yoruba territory (ie Kwara). They didnt have too much military success in the forest regions prior to that.

Ibime:
who is IBB to lecture us on nation building? . . . I didn't even bother to read his write-up. . . soon as I read that he gave the speech at Odili's birthday, I stopped reading because Odili is an enemy of the Niger-Delta people and is currently on exile from Niger-Delta. . . . as for IBB, a military man only knows a military solution. . . .even Abacha gave more to the Niger Delta people than this murderer. . . . .If I remember correctly, oil derivation to the Niger-Delta during IBB's regime was cut to 1.5%. . . .when even that idiot Abacha raised it to 13%. . . so phock IBB and all he has to say.

sometimes you learn more from your "enemies" than you do from your "friends". At least your enemies wont sugarcoat your problem like your friends will.

besides, there's a thin line between paranoia and genuine concern.

yes, buy a camel.

I think you can probably stow yourself away in some manner. Just keep trying.

After all, dogs,cats and other animals are kept in the cargo area under the plane, so if you consider yourself animalistic you wont mind being carried the same way.


what kind of topic is this sef?

Olumo rock looks pretty interesting. Hopefully I'll visit the place someday.

I've been to Idanre Hills when young, and it was a fascinating experience. We climbed and climbed till we got to the top of the mountains and saw the town far beneath us in the distance.

Some of those pictures look like caves though. I'm guessing Olumo rock has a lot of caves. At least that's what they'd be called by foreigners, I think.

I don talk am say olabawale get another agenda behind all this so called "anti-Christian" preaching.


besides, he spends more time in the Christian section than the muslim one, under the guise of trying to make converts.

yeah right.

DeepZone:
What was their reason?

there was a disagreement about the right way to baptize.

I think her eyebrows are her best feature sha.

I'm surprised there's no oil in the north.

I'd have thought oil is more likely to be found in desert regions, really.

Saudi Arabia, after all, has a lot of desert and a lot of oil.

makes sense.

Pour funds into the Niger delta, and take the administration of the region out of the hands of the indigenous leaders. Appoint administrators from outside the area who can be held accountable for the parts under their control. Maybe someone with a military background.