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Isiterere: he is widely addressed as Ramon Adedoyin , but his letter head is Raymond Adedoyin , d street name is Raymond Adedoyin street Parakin Ile-Ife(that's where The Polytechnic Ile-Ife is situated . He is still a Muslim though chief Mrs is a Christian . I think he twisted/funkified the name because of his exposure .
ALL IZZ WELL

ok.

first time i'm hearing of such though.

malvisguy212: there is different between gift and blessing,

true.


God does give gifts to all men, but blessing is something more specific.

eg

proverbs 10

22 The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich

dorox: When the issue of tax payment was brought up to Jesus, he asked them; whose face is on this coin? And their answer was; it is caesar's. Then Jesus told them that they should give to ceasar what belongs to caesar, and to God what belongs to God. The thing you should realise from this answer is that Jesus' kingdom is not of this world, so while he was in the world he was in subjection to the authorities of the world.
Now, as far as I know, God doesn't print money, so being a christian should not count as an advantage in getting money compared to non christians. For example, if you have two farmers with one of them a christian and the other a non christian, if the land they plant upon are of the same size and equally fertile, with the same amount of rainfall, what do you think would determine the size of their harvest?
If the christian farmer spends all his time asking for divine favour to have bountiful harvest and the non christian farmer used his time to learn about irrigation, and how to use fertilizers to boost his crop yield. Who do you think will make it to the market with extra baskets of farm produce of the two farmers?

interesting question.

Kendzyma: d bolded reminds me of d so calld believers calld pastors.bro nt all unbelievers accumulatd der wealth tru dubious means,and u cnt expect a believer to b rich wen he/she enrichs iz/er pastor's pocket,dats y its only pastors dat flunts der wealth az a believer,followers dnt av anitin to flunt sinc dey ar already milkd dry.and r u saying if 1 isnt a believer,d person's wealth and everytin iz authomatically acquired tru dubious or immoral means?

s/he answered your question- people's wealth is not always acquired through dubious means.

torchwave: Tpia, there are a number of reasons for that.

in the first place, unbelievers and believers have equal opportunities to wealth, fame and status. However, unbelievers seem to have exclusive access to these pleasures of life while believers are denied them.

There is no rocket science explanation to that fact...a mere observation will provide the answers.

You should know that religious beliefs play a fundamental role in determining people's attitude to the things of life such as wealth, career, marriage, association, etc etc...

There are avenues of wealth explored by unbelievers that are considered morally unsuitable by believers. Unbelievers capitalise on these get-rich-quick schemes because they have no moral restraint or values which keep believers from toeing the same path to wealth. A few examples include drug trafficking, local and international advance fee fraud, money laundering, bribery, kidnap and ransom, extortion, embezzlement, prostitution, human trafficking, robbery, contract assassination, romance scam, featuring in pornographic movies or mags, etc. While unbelievers, unrestrained by any notion of morality or dignity, are willing to get their hands soiled to get rich, believers, on the other hand, prefer a different path to wealth, the path that does not conflict with the teachings of Christ and the laws of the state though the price is the length of time it takes in accumulating wealth when compared with unbelievers who seek instant gratification of wealth.

Secondly, the desire to get wealthy is another factor. Believers know their wealth and status on earth will all perish one day...one way or the other. They know it won't last. That is why the desire to be wealthy is not a driving force in their lives. They prefer working towards accumulating spiritual wealth to worldly wealth. That does not mean they don't work towards achieving worldly wealth. They do, but the difference is they are not passionately committed to becoming wealthy as the unbelievers. They'd rather be well-to-do. Besides, many, not all, believers view accumulation of wealth as hindrance to attaining the ultimate goal of their Faith - Heaven.

Moreover, many wealthy unbelievers, when they became Christians, gave up their goods and wealth for the benefit of all. Here you will recall the idiom 'poor as a church rat.' Can't delve into it right now but it is a proof of how many gave up their ostentatious and wealthy lifestyle to serve God after accepting Christ into their lives.

In addition, many unbelievers have the tendency of showing off their wealth to the world through the media or any other means. When they buy a gold rolex watch you will know, when they buy a new house they will announce it to the world, when they purchase a jet it will make the headlines of newspapers. Believers, on the other hand, who are even much wealthier prefer to do the same things without making a sound. The result is that people have the impression that unbelievers are wealthier than believers. That may be true but that is not always the case.

There are many other reasons but these should suffice to provide answers to your question.

you've raised a lot of points here.

so, barring ungodly means of making money which unbelievers (and casual christians) engage in without fear of conscience, lets say on a level playing ground, all things being equal and barring underground ways of making money, why do unbelievers still continue to be richer on average?

if her plans are for three years in the future, then something's weird, given her thread title.

is the op nigerian?

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women never agree to be in the wrong on matters like these.

badmus could quite possibly be of european origin, unless someone can post the corresponding arabic meaning.

Konmight: The street named after him at Mayfair bears Raymond Adedoyin Street Mayfair, Ile-Ife. The street leads to his private polytechnic. I grew up in Ife, I know his house at Mbabi Mbayo.

Cheers.

check his university website which categorically states his name as ramon.

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Efemenaxy1: How d'you know everyone saw what you saw?

if they were there?

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ramon, not raymond.

check the university website.

i've never heard of anyone changing their muslim name to raymond.

most nigerian muslims keep their names and do not change them to english ones. I think you used your imagination here.

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Amhappy: @OP this was how one of my friends moved in with one Alhaji (already married to 3wives) after youth service all in the name of true love. A girl from a good Christain home. Well, her sister didnt mind her business but reported to their parents who battled for her soul. Now she is happily married with 2kids to her own man. Your brother should not be living with a girl for two years without bringing her home. Let him officially marry her if thats what he wants. His soul is at stake.

your friend's case is easier because its more glaring. Either the alhaji or the other three wives will move her out after a while, the consequences of that kind of union are mostly born by the perpetrator, in this case your friend.

the op's example is far more insidious.

Abel202: [b]OP, the signs are clear. Do everything in your power to ensure that your brother does not marry that girl or any of her type. Inform your parents immediately. Raise all the dust you can NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
Your brother is either stu.pidly in love or is being diabolically controlled. Whichever way, if he marries that girl now, He will surely and certainly regret later. And when your brother messes up his life, he has also roped in the family in a life-long mess.
I am saying this because if I knew what I know now, I would not have allowed certain things to go wrong with a few people in my family.
I have an uncle who destroyed his life due to this kind of glaring issues. The family tried, but he insisted on having his way, today he is long gone and the wife is a big lady. I have a sister who also refused all our advises and insisted on marrying her "lover" because she said she was an adult that knows what she was doing. Today whenever I see my sister I cry. I wount go into details but she is permanently messed up. we tried dissuading her from that marriage but she wouldnt listen.
But with hindsight, if I knew that the signs we saw then would bring her to her sorry state now I would have done everything humanly possible, even divinely possible to make sure that the marriage never took place. But she & my uncle are now used as lesson in the family.
So OP NOW IS THE TIME TO SAVE YOUR BROTHER & FAMILY FROM A LIFE OF AGONY THAT MIGHT END IN MISERY FOR HIM & FOR YOUR PARENTS. DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO STOP THAT UNION. EVEN IF PEOPLE ACCUSE YOU OF TOO MUCH MEDDLING, ITS BETTER LIKE THAT THAN FOR YOU TO SEE YOUR BROTHER LATER IN LIFE IN THE STATE AM SEEING MY SISTER PRESENTLY. He that has ears Let him hear !!!!![/b]

its too late for all these.

the family has already been penetrated, the only thing they can do now is pray for the brother and ask God's protection for their own selves so they [family] are not wiped out.

e dey sound unbelievable o, but thats how it is.

Such a big debate over some stranger's sex life.


and if he had the sex, so what?

lawa18: The whole advice boils down to the fact that I should let them be. God knws am jst concerned about his future happiness. I promise to always remember them in prayers n let them be

Yes, since you don't know the real reason why they're together.


Be more concerned for yourself.