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i doubt this is a nigerian habit, maybe some other country.

correct me if i'm wrong?

onila:


he was attracted to me instantly

arent all males attracted to you instantly?

why not halle berry and beyonce.

oh, i forgot, you're supposed to be in britain.

who is that person?

was it fellis?

i'm surprised i didnt notice, and this is just idle curiosity on my part and nothing more.

i doubt this "chemistry" would last much longer than the honeymoon phase.

and, what happens when say maclatunji for example feels a "chemistry" for more than one potential partner.

let us rule out marrying all of them for now and assume its only feasible to have one for the meantime.

prexios is showing his sense of humour.

we can continue with the topic now, if there's more to be said.

christianity has been in africa for eons.

its ignorance which would make anyone think otherwise.

I understand your paspective, how i wish you understand mine

that is what i'm trying to do, and i do not need to label you or put you in a box before i can view your opinion or perspective.

the subject is too vast for that, i think we are both yoruba, is that a given or is there some doubt about this.

^ my point was you chose to label me ajebuta, i simply played to your opinion, which was wrong.


i am not an ajebuta and neither do i consider myself one, the fact that i choose not to engage in wordplay with the subject matter, doesnt mean i dont grasp what is being discussed.


i think most of the posters here are picking whatever they want to pick from what is being discussed, doesnt make one particular method the one way. We are all dropping contributions, we all know our motives for doing so, some motives are personal, some are academic, some are out of genuine interest as opposed to point scoring or attempts to intimidate.

my frame of reference presently is not ogun, i think we're in another context now, i also agree the oyinbo in your post means oyinbo, so why would we be arguing about that. The question i asked was why did you say you feel the original yorubas werent black, I asked this previously on another thread but i dont think you gave an answer then, which was why i brought it up again, and your response was ogun, that was what we were analyzing.


btw, i would prefer not to be addressed by any title besides the moniker i bear here.

ok, let me observe for now, then.

i think we should try to keep the thread simple and uncomplicated and avoid being sidetracked by issues which have no bearing on the subject matter.

I am also of the opinion it is not necessary to adjust worldviews [perhaps i am reading you wrong, since you omitted the L from your own rendering] on a subject such as this, which to me, is anthropology or historical context, and none of the info so far, is new. As in, i doubt most of this wasnt known to earlier yoruba researchers and writers.

as to potency, i've been meaning to ask for us to try to desist from "fadeyi oloro" scenarios, with various parties practicing "potency of words" instead of discussing the matters on ground. It IS after all an internet forum, and the thread isnt meant to be a testing ground for mind games, if it is, let me know so i can take my leave and continue elsewhere.

i am under the impression what we are discussing is in a scholarly context, not an esoteric one, perhaps i am mistaken, will be more alert to the possibility.

last but not least, i think my knowledge of yoruba is sufficient for what i'm discussing, i simply addressed your erroneous label of ajebuta, since you needed a reason to pin one? Ajebuta is your impression, doesnt mean you are correct.

i really dont think there are enough "fathers" to go around, there are men, yes, but not everyone can be a perfect father [if there's any such thing, empirically speaking].

personally, i dont see the use of crying over spilt milk, best to take what life has given you and make something with it.

black males in particular are under a lot of pressure, its more difficult for them to fill the "father" roles.

hmm, thanks.

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wont these guys get tired sometimes of being the mirror mirror on the wall.

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op are you boko haram?

why are you taking unauthorized pictures of people?

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prexios: the name for Hausa land among the Yoruba is Oke Oya, meaning Oya's country. . . .

Oya and the early Yoruba people dwelled at the North at inception, then it was from this point that the Yoruba proceed southward. then the river Niger was named after the historic Oya, who was one of the brain behind the seperation of Yoruba from her parent state. Oya means faction or offshoot.

its good you mentioned the river niger, i've been meaning to ask what exactly the yoruba knew about this river, assuming that knowledge is still in existence?

prexios: Understand what i mean by etymology,

I am talking about the ancient ancestors of Yoruba and their mindset, not today Yoruba. You often hold to "Yoruba-ajebota" no offense meant. Osi means poverty, but colloquially, it means nonsense or just as you put it. Now compare this proverb: "Osi nii je tani mo ori, owo nii je mo ba o tan" meaning "poverty is another word for 'who is your acquaintance?' Money is another word for 'you are my relation.'" You can as well say "Osi ta a gan" to mean "he experience abject poverty" then you arrive at "Otoshi", which is Yoruba for "poor people" do you get it?

akushe is poverty, i'm not familiar with oshi meaning poverty.

poverty can be included as one of the meanings, however, going by those examples you gave.

look at oshi o da, means nonsense is not good. Oshi doesnt mean poverty in that phrase.

Koshi soun is another example of a usage not related to poverty.

i think what you're confusing for "ajebota" is the fact that i dont speak the really deep yoruba which is needed for most of these analyses.

i think omo oyinbo as a term is pretty unambiguous, do you agree?

its referring to a light skinned person who most likely is biracial or white.

and not albino, imo albino would be called by name unless there's evidence to the contrary.

omo oyinbo in this context strongly suggests the child of an oyinbo, and biracial because the omo implies that.

hmm, lord have mercy.

oyibo

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beautiful lady.

omo oyinbo is child of oyinbo, could be a biracial reference or a european white person.

i dont get your black and poverty link.

in yorubaland, the poorer people are not proportionally more dark, do you agree?

overseas, black is associated with poverty, yes.


besides, osi is not poverty, its more like nonsense. Olosi is f.ool.

what yorubas say is adumaradan, meaning black makes the body shine.

by now, there shouldnt be.