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Bidam: frosbel scam has been exposed for all to see. he actually got this disjointed u-tube video from an unchristian website...if you watch the tail end of the video you will see them quoting pagans like Diogenes and Euripides...let me quote them for all those that did not watch the video(Kenneth hagin and Copeland):"most men are within a finger's breadth of being mad"-Diogenes. "whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad".. Euripides Greek tragic dramatist(484bc-406bc). these are quotes from unbelievers who don't even know God talk more of understanding the operations and manifestations of the HOLY SPIRIT...frosbel is just a scam artist used as a willing tool in the hand of the devil to propagate falsehood.U might be correct. A good follower of Frosbel's post, thread and responses shows dat he is not a xtain at all but might be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Even the devil can quote the bible dan anyone on nairaland. So its no big deal if frosbel can quote the bible, written in simple english, very well. When u post a christian bashing website (written by anti-xtains or atheist) as a reference to counter a xtain congregation, den u r obviosly one of dem. May God expose all workers of iniquity this year in jesus' name. |
Sagamite: Really? He plays better than Okocha?Good. My broda i hav had the opportunity of watching both players play. And any person dat started following nigerian football frm, at least 1987, will undertsand. He is the first (or among the 1st nigerians, to giv an element of doubt) to play professional football in europe. At dat time football in not so lucrativ as it is now but they play great football. Okocha is a great player of course. I consider okocha a good replacement for okwaraji in terms of influence in the team and creativity in the midfield. U can get a clip of nigeria/cameroon final of maroc '88, u wont argue again. |
Sagamite: You are really sounding very dumb now and getting on my nerves.Pls stop cursing cos frm ur response u dnt knw sam okwaraji. If u knw him he plays better than okocha but death took him vry fast. U might hav just heard of him. He scored the nigeria's best goal in any tournament (against cameroon in maroc '88, antoine bell was in goal for cameroon, the match ended 1:1). |
afam4eva: Shebi na to kill the snake and continue your life. Will someone move out because of snake. na when the snake don become too much na him wahala go dey.U sabi kill snake abi u don kill snake before? U talk as if snake na mosquito. |
I'm on phone so i cant access the video. While i dnt endorse 'fake miracles and signs', we need to be mindful of unwarranted criticism especially on spiritual matters. The best i do is dat i dnt go to a place i feel unconfortable with their interpretation of scriptures or 'doubtful miracles'. |
frosbel:If Jesus were to be alive today u will also call him a 'scammer' given the way and manner he operates during his earthly ministry, and ur present parameter on measuring wats is scriptural and wats is not. I think u need to keep mute on certain things u dnt understand or better still ask God for the spirit of discernment and stop judging and critising. Remember that 'sin against the holy spirit is unforgivable'. If u r not comfortable with the way they operate den stay clear frm their gathering or better still ignore altogether so dat u dnt sin against God while u tink u try to defend him. As a matter of fact it is even a sin to attempt to defend God. Many pple had been slain in an attempt to do dat. Ur duty is to preach the word as the Spirit leads? |
The 'church of england' is a disgrace to human concience and morality. No wonder young pple are no longer going to church in england. No wonder prayer is no longer offered in the perliament before proceedings. May God giv the few who are still standing for the truth d strength to carry on. I wont forget the question Jesus asked his disciples, 'will i find faith when i return?'. Even some atheist are being ordained bishops. God hav mercy. |
ifihearam: Where is sunday OlisehIm sure dis list was compiled by foreigners dat knws nothing about naija footballin history. |
Sagamite: He wasn't a great footballer.U r wrong. Maybe u havnt watched him play at all. Go and watch a clip of nig team at the seoul 88 olympic. |
Syenite: Where is Samuel Okwaraji?The greatest midfielder nig will ever produce b4 jj okocha. |
k2039: [color=soyouquotedme]I can never be poor in my life. [/color]I can neva be poor too. Poverty no good ooo. |
seedord247: And some eediots will be coming here to post rubbish on how to make a girl like u or how make your relationship shyt work......Thank u, oshe!!! |
My late mother occassionally appear in my dreams giving me the same advise she used to giv me while she was alive. The last one i saw her she told me dat pple tot she is dead, but dat she is still alive. That was dis week monday. There are so many things happening that a physical man can never fully understand. Our knowlegde is vry limited wen it comes to certain issues about life and existence. Life is full of mystery. Tho' i hav not seen a ghost before but close friends hav confirmed seeing dem. To me the difference between man and ghost could be the dead and the living. |
Famous victry for QPR after 30 yrs of winless matches against chelsea at the stamford bridge. Bookmakers got it wrong tonite. |
David defeat goliath. Up QPR!!! Relief for arsenal for their dismal display. |
BARRISTERS: @chukwudi44U r just using ur JW tactics of attemptin to change topics anytime ur falsehood is laid bare. Na una wey, so im not surprised. |
BARRISTERS: @true2GodI hav no ansa to giv u neither will i elongate this thread unnecessarily by posting the criminal cases involved by Jehoha witness members. My point remains that u and JW got it wrong on the person of Jesus, he is not an angel. U guys lied here and adamantly defending falsehood. Dnt drag me into church scandals, open another thread on dat den we sqaure it out. Let stick to the topic on church doctrines. |
plappville: True2god oya read oooo.... this forum get funny brethren caieee!!!Human scandals are individualistic, no country of organization or church, or family or race is completely free from scandals. If all the disciples of Jesus are evil because we have a Judas among dem den i doubt the way u examine things. Barristers pasted a long column of scandal commited by a man or some at Asseblies of God church hence his benchmark for accessing the general lifestyle of the church and its doctrine. Is dat logical frm ur point of view? I hav fellowshiped with JW, hav u been to assemlies of God church before? This thread is not opened to castigate an organization but to see scriptures concerning an issue of which 98% of the christian world says Jehova's witness is wrong (with supports of the bible) and ur only defense is to castigate another church. If you want me to open a thread on all the scandals going on, and had happend in JW, i will, but dat makes me immature. Tho' it's all over the internet. Happy new yr all the same, tho' u see the event as a pagan event, all the same i wish u a happy 2013 (cos whether u like it or not u must use the 'pagan' calender system) |
plappville: True2god respect herself wen I gave her/,him a free leave from my thread he was about to derail this morning. He is known for this act now....always out of topic...I am always busy and i visit nairaland only at my spare time. I have a lot to do and achiev, so nairaland is only the last place i visit whenever im free and bored. FYI, im a man and not a woman. I say and i repeat, stop twisting/misquoting/misinterpretin the bible. Jesus christ is not an angel. Dis is not the view the founder of Jehovah witness (russel) had on the person of Jesus. If ur founder can be wrong by having a wrong perception of the person of christ (cos he neva believed he is an angel), den wat was ur organization's doctrine built on? Is it dat u dnt trust or accept most of his teachings, or are u trying to defend his errors by tellin me that the current leadership of JW are getting (or had gotten) a new light? If ur organization keep changing doctrines frm time to time (errorneously teaching the light is getting brighter), wat is the assurance dat they wont change the current beliefs in ten yrs time wen anoda light becomes brighter? Is ur organization consistent with bible beliefs/teachings? Is there always rooms for modifications of doctrines anytime it seems convenient for dem to do dat? A mind dat is not dogmatic always ask questions anytime he seems confused. But wen a mind is in doubt and hold teniosly to his traditional belief system, den that mind is not open to changes/learnings. I hav more experience in the activities and modus operadi of JW dan u. Thats nevertheless not wat im here to argue or proof. But my question to u is dis, all the current teachings/beliefs of JW, dont u tink some might be modified, or jettisoned all together, in ten yrs time? |
Kudos to the moderator for sanitizing Nairaland dis 2013. No room for e-tribal war, e-hatred, and e-stupidity. If pple dnt have any reasonable contribution to make, their post should be hidden. Im sure most pple whose post went thru might hav had some of their post hidden for bad post or comment. Nairaland should not be a breedind site for ethnic war. Dat my humble opinion. |
truthislight: i thought i was the only one that saw the no no no sense he posted that does not even deserved a reply.Guy remember in the 'is jesus really an arch-angel michael' thread u called frobel a fool for not supporting ur opinion on the matter. I hope he is no longer a fool for 'dubunking' the doctrine of hell fire. |
frosbel: Just watched this video and it was so so wrong, I had to engage in a debate with some deceived brethren and explain to them the truth about HELL.@ poster, is it Jesus christ dat lied about hell, the bible translators, the bible itself, the churches, or the church pastors? Cos in many occasions in the bible Jesus talkd about the dangers of hell fire (eg if ur hand offend u cut it off, it is better u hav one hand and inherit the kingdom of God dan having two hand and best cast into hell fire and so many verse). My point now is dis, is it dat Jesus was using the threat of hell fire to threaten his oppositions, is it dat the hell he spoke about is symbolic, or is it dat he was wrongly quoted. While i agree dat evrybody is entitled to his belief system, but scorning at the word of Jesus is funny if u claim to be a xtain cos Jesus (unlike any other person), spoke very extensivly about hell even giving an illustration of the richman and lazarus. Remember, this is the only occasion he called someone by his name during illustration. Could it be dat the Lazarus he called here is a fictituos figure? |
frosbel: Just watched this video and it was so so wrong, I had to engage in a debate with some deceived brethren and explain to them the truth about HELL.@ poster, is it Jesus christ dat lied about hell, the bible translators, the bible itself, the churches, or the church pastors? Cos in many occasions in the bible Jesus talkd about the dangers of hell fire (eg if ur hand offend u cut it off, it is better u hav one hand and inherit the kingdom of God dan having two hand and best cast into hell fire and so many verse). My point now is dis, is it dat Jesus was using the threat of hell fire to threaten his oppositions, is it dat the hell he spoke about is symbolic, or is it dat he was wrongly quoted. While i agree dat evrybody is entitled to his belief system, but scorning at the word of Jesus is funny if u claim to be a xtain cos Jesus (unlike any other person), spoke very extensivly about hell even giving an illustration of the richman and lazarus. Remember, this is the only occasion he called someone by his name during illustration. Could it be dat the Lazarus he called here is a fictituos figure? if there is no hell fire, is there anything heaven? |
frosbel: Just watched this video and it was so so wrong, I had to engage in a debate with some deceived brethren and explain to them the truth about HELL.@ poster, is it Jesus christ dat lied about hell, the bible translators, the bible itself, the churches, or the church pastors? Cos in many occasions in the bible Jesus talkd about the dangers of hell fire (eg if ur hand offend u cut it off, it is better u hav one hand and inherit the kingdom of God dan having two hand and best cast into hell fire and so many verse). My point now is dis, is it dat Jesus was using the threat of hell fire to threaten his oppositions, is it dat the hell he spoke about is symbolic, or is it dat he was wrongly quoted. While i agree dat evrybody is entitled to his belief system, but scorning at the word of Jesus is funny if u claim to be a xtain cos Jesus (unlike any other person), spoke very extensivly about hell even giving an illustration of the richman and lazarus. Remember, this is the only occasion he called someone by his name during illustration. Could it be dat the Lazarus he called here is a fictituos figure? |
inurmind: I also believe they practiced polytheism, Yahweh was just the main god. There are alot of hidden things Christians do not know about their religion.Wat religion do u practice? |
Rich4god: Bottomline is... God created everything in this world, and everything he created is for His own glory. Nothing that he created that is bad except if you want it to be bad. That my igbo ancestors dedicated their yam to any gods/idol/diety during their new yam festival does not make me a pagan when i offer yam as an offering in church. That sango priest wore a yellow wrapper to his shrine does not make me a pagan if i wore a yellow wrapper to church on my child dedication. That muslims wore turban and "tazarce" to their mosque does not make me a muslum when i wear one to church. That any pagan worshipper dedicated iroko tree to their idol does not mean that i am indulging inpaganism if i make use of iroko tree as medicine or anything. Its what you do or how you do it that matters. So plz, spare me all that christmass and idol worship relationship. As long as i have been following this thread, you guys have not provided why xmas is paganism, all you keep saying is that pagans did this or did that. And i have eqully shown some example of your practices that pagans too used, but you dodge away from it.God bless u bro. I like pple dat tink and not robotic in their reasoning. Just cos an organization u associate with tells u many things does not mean they are always right in all things dey tell u. I like ur analogy, very logical to a layman dat wants to open his brain and tink out hw two plus two becomes four. Its only a child dat refuses to grow dat will be spool fed even at 5yrs of age (nt to insult pls, but making a point). During dec period many companies decorate their buildings, repaints, change furnitures, give hampers to customers and friends all in d name of xmas and yet some pple are not happy. They claim xmas lite, xmas tree, xmas hampers and gift, xmas carrol are all pagan in practice and yet dis same critics cannot open a thread dat condemns boko haram bombing of churches durin xmas. To dem bombin and destruction during xmas in no issue, their headache is y pple are celebrating and showing love for xmas sake. Na waoooo. I believ pple should hav a more positiv way of seeing and judgin things as it goes in the world, especially wen no civil disturbance is not tolerated and social order is maintained. Critism must be carried out with common sense. |
truthislight: i think i have answered this question above.Tank God dat ur founding fathers celebrated xmas (in ignorance, according to u). And u tink there are xcuses for ignorance? Dats ok. In order word pple dat r celebrating xmas now are worshipin idol cos ur organization now paganizes xmas. While Russel, Rutherford and co dat celebrated xmas some 60 to 80 yrs ago will be ressurected afta armagedon, the xtains celebrating now will not be ressurected cos ur organization now sees it as a pagan stuff. Is dat logical? Who made u or ur org jugde over the pple of God? Tell me a single place u see any libation, sacrifice, incantation is bein made durin xmas (aside frm picnickin, observing holiday, resting at home, visiting friends etc). Im sure new yr is also dedicated to idol according to una belief. |
Zikkyy: You are in Satan's world and you probably invested in education to boost your chances of surviving in it. You are in Satan's world, you are hustling looking for job, contract/business, invests in heavy-duty prayer sessions for financial success, you are in Satan's world you dey chase woman around, you want to marry. You are in Satan's world you enter bar give yourself a treat (or you rather treat yourself at home), it Satan's world, you want to dress nice, look good (even plappville was fighting over right to use beauty/make-up accessories the other time), you want to ride nice cars, nice house, get yourself a nice computer or tablet and post on NLGuy u sum it up. They see no + side of tins at all, only -. There is no scriptural evidence dat xmas should be celebrated or not. 'Paganization' of xmas is a product of personal judgement without any scriptural evidence dat supports otherwise or not. Did Russel celebrate xmas during his time or not? Wil he be resurrected or not (this question is for papville)? |
ijawkid: Have I not answered this useless question before??.........YES the olympics still remains what it is....pagan!!!!!.......let's be truthfull to ourselves.........you guys have acted so jejune....just because enough evidence has been given to show the fraud xmas is you switch the topic to olympics and wedding gown.....smh!!!!!!..............is it not a shame??.........xmas has been debunked from all corners....the bible,history and what have you.....instead of you guys to be humble and allign your trained conbsciences to the truth you are here playing ten ten............even i as dnt agree with u dat the present olympic event (or even fifa world cup) has anytin to do wit idol worship, i like ur straight-forwardness in ur response. Truthislight to learn hw to be factual in his response. |
ijawkid: Have I not answered this useless question before??.........YES the olympics still remains what it is....pagan!!!!!.......let's be truthfull to ourselves.........you guys have acted so jejune....just because enough evidence has been given to show the fraud xmas is you switch the topic to olympics and wedding gown.....smh!!!!!!..............is it not a shame??.........xmas has been debunked from all corners....the bible,history and what have you.....instead of you guys to be humble and allign your trained conbsciences to the truth you are here playing ten ten............ |
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