kabukabu50:

You are very lucky that you were not beheaded,I would like the Muslims in here to reply to your post .

Muslims will reply as soon as christians explain these to us. (OP of these links pls allow me to borrow them)

Ibo Christian Fr Enuagha's ordeal in the hands of Southern Zaria christians
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/apr/04/national-04-04-2010-002.htm

Gunpowder Plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot

St. Bartholomew's Day massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew's_Day_massacre

French Wars of_Religion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion

IRA
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/26/AR2009052602995.html

Hutaree
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1361

naijangel7:

Are you even serious? Are you asking what good  reasons non-muslims have for viewing Islam as violent? Have you ever heard the names "Alqaeda" or "Boko Haram"? I´m beginning to worry for your sanity.

Have you heard of "The Crusade", "The Spanish Inquisition", "IRA", "Lord Resistance Army", "Hutaree"
Yet, you have managed to retain the tag of peaceful. Nice PR work

naijangel7:

Truly, I truly worry for you o.

The question is valid. Do you believe that homosexuality is a sin? Do you believe that blasphemy is a sin? And if yes, what should be the punishment? Do you believe that the Bible should be reviewed to throw out those portions that forbid women from speaking in the church or require women to submit to their husbands in everything

naijangel7:

Stick to the context. What are we talking about? Northern muslims. Or is Boko Haram not from the North? Go back and read my post which you are referring to before you say all these off-point statements. And as for your demand for an example, my own family is a very good one. I have a second cousin married to a muslim woman from Maidugri. She has raised all their children (four sons) as muslims and they are in their 20s now. It is not a big deal in my family.

Are we supposed to judge Islam by the clearly misguided actions of Boko Haram of some people from the North? The irony of all these is that some people in the North debated with the Boko Haram people and reported their devilish views before they became a public menace

naijangel7:


True. They never go inside a church. How can a Muslim go into the house of worship of Kaffrs? It´s easier to just burn it down from the outside, especially when there are worshippers inside. Anything less will be defiling.

You are truly ignorant of the fact that it is not forbidden for a muslim to enter a church! A leader of the Muslim - Uthman (RAA) - entered a church in Jerusalem but said his prayer outside it.

You are as (or even more) ignorant as some of the muslims you criticise

naijangel7:


In other words, you were deaf to the loud criticism from the West, including American citizens themselves against the war in Iraq? Criticism which continues to this day? smh.

But you did not see the posts by christians here justifying the war in Iraq. Illussion2 said the war was for the benefit of muslims. Olokunba said it was fought to remove a dictator that was oppressing his people.

Is it not better, more honourable, to just support the war, rather than INVENT reasons that the protagonists of the war did not advance

Nigerian christians sometime take automatic positions against muslims on matters that do not concern them. I have seen Nigerian christian prayer books in which they pray for the downfall of Hamas in their battles against Israel

reindeer:

@truly, what solutions do you proffer?

Somebody (I think it was Violent) has mentioned it. Let the muslims who know the true principles of Islam form a group and educate the extremists. They should further counter their misguided ideas publicly, and expose them wherever they can be found.

danbasco:

When i mentioned the matter in the staff room, a few teachers just giggled, no response. On my way returning from school that day, walking along the narrow path, I almost got lynched. It took the intervention of my fellow corpers to save me.

What actually did I do that almost cost me my life? Can somebody please tell me??

You certainly encountered misguided people. Murdering somebody for touching the Qur'an is an act of ignorance. Afterall, you can walk into a shop and buy one

Anyway what is the purpose of this thread?

(1) A referendum on Islam which a lot of people who do not like Islam will jump on to attack Islam to their hearts' content or

(2) a genuine effort to rally Muslims (who truly understand Islamic principles) to rein in the terrorists

If A, let this thread continue the way it has been going such that the next time some innocent souls are slaughtered, we get behind our computers to rave and rant. Then we go about our normal businesses until next time

If B, let us focus on solutions

677ano:

why do people claim here that Islam is a religion of peace? It has always be a violent religion from the time of prophet Mohammed.
It is a religion of violence and terrorism. I lived and schooled in the northern part of Nigeria and I must say the Imams and the Hausa Fulani elites are at the root of these problems and they are mostly politically motivated and financed.

Why do christians pretend they are peaceful? How was christianity spread? Get soldiers to fight and subjugate a country, turn it into a colony and the missionaries follow "peacefully" behind
who made the greatest advances in weaponry? Christian? For what purpose?
Please tell me how christians have conducted themselves in war because you are a christian (and an authority on Islam), you would know far more about christianity
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/26/AR2009052602995.html

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677ano:
I lived and schooled in the northern part of Nigeria and

blah, blah and that makes me an authority on the nature history of Islam!"
Go and read up on how muslims fight wars. The History of Spain may be a case study. Don't just pronounce on football because you watch the EPL every week!

illusion2:

This is the problem. .  .never equate a country with 'Islam'. Many muslims fail to make this distinction- even the terrorists can't make this distinction.

No matter what anyone tries to tell you to the contrary ,you are first & foremost a black man. Although the Wahabbis might make you think all muslims are equal,but you need to visit Saudi Arabia or any other 'muslim country' to know this is at best a pipe dream .


1. The greatest enemy of Iran apart from Israel is Saudi Arabia (due to the Shia/Sunni divide) wikileaks gives more insight into this when the saudis are quoted as asking the US to bomb Iran.

2. Saddam was a threat to all his neighbours- he fought a devastating 7 year war with Iran ,where over 1 million people died. He invaded Kuwait and they pillaged,violated and destroyed many muslim lives & property. When this happened ,it wasn't seen as a war on Islam ??  

But all of a sudden the US (with active support of Iraqis in exile),[/b]removes Saddam [b]for the benefit of muslims and its a war on Islam   Kindly note that I was & still am against the war in Iraq.

3. I am also not happy about the blind US support for Israel on the occupied arab lands,but its less of a religious issue & more of a political one.

If it was religious & the US was a 'christian' country,they Israel shold have been destroyed by now. Remember the Jews killed our Lord Jesus Christ. The Nazis were 'christians'. So its not religious - 20% of palestinians are christian. Its a political problem which requires a political solution & not terrorism.

No muslim needs a Wahhabi to tell him his position in Islam. You have been listening to CNN for too long! In the early days of Islam, the person making the call to prayer was a black man - an Ethiopian

The problem of Iran and the US started in 1953
A democractically elected leader (Mossadeque), a man that was very popular with the Iranian was toppled in a coup with the assistance of the CIA. The US puppets were eventually removed in a popular uprising in 1979.
The Iran-Iraq war enabled the US to support the opponents (Iraq) of the new government in Iran. The Gulf war of 1991 was
due to the invasion of Kuwait by Iraq. This led to the defeat and military weakening of Iraq then headed by Saddam. This was the Bush era. Clintion came in and spent two terms of 8 years

How can somebody now come in more than 12 years after in 2003 (Gulf War II) and say I am removing a dictator who has been terorising neighbours?

At the time of the Gulf War II in 2003, Iraq could no longer  threaten any of its neighbours UN sanctions had seen to that.
If you want to remove dictators, there are so many around. The US did not remove the leaders of apartheid South Africa (rather it co-operated with them and dillied-dallied) , Mobutu, Doe of Liberia etc
The reason given by the USA to the UN was to take out weapons of mass destruction. And that was a lie

Even the American Secretary of Sate Colin Powell who was CDS during the Gulf War 1 did nit support Gulf War 2.

They did not say they were removing Saddam for the benefit of muslims. Can feeding pork to detained muslims, subjecting them to indecent sexual acts and all the atrocities of Abu Ghraib be done for the benefit of muslims?

If christians in Nigeria are inventing new justifications for a war that muslims do not like, then they are providing further confirmation of the fact that most people see it as a christian-muslim issue

Tony Blair has said he would have invaded Iraq even without evidence of weapons of mass destruction and would have found a way to justify the war to parliament and the public.

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/12/11/tony-blair-we-invaded-iraq-to-change-the-region/

Let me ask you, did christians in Nigeria have any CLEAR sympathy whenever France and Germany waged their perrennial battles? No. But Iraq v France? or Iran v Germany. Nigerian christians would have a clear preference

Similarly, did anybody mention religion when Warri (ife) and itsekiris (Modakeke) were fighting? No. But let us there be a battle in the North; people will start looking for the religious angle

Not every conflict in the North is religious - let me borrow this story
http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2010/apr/04/national-04-04-2010-002.htm

naijangel7:

With good reason.

We have already said Christians have chosen to move with the times but Muslims are stuck in the 4th century.

What good reasons are this? How has christianity moved with the times? By using a new version of the Bible. Tell me when homosexuality was unbanned in the Bible. Tell me when an amendment was made in the Bible making women equal to men and willing them to speak in the church
Christians like to shift the goal while ManU or any team for that matter is dribbling. If you point out what a christian does, they tell you, No, that is not in the Bible. If you now point out those things in the Bible, they still insist they have moved on. So what do they preach with?

Christians these days play down the old testament, but still publish it as part of the Bible

naijangel7:


Did Bush and Blair take these decisions in the name of Christianity or Jesus or the Bible? Did they have the support of any Christian organisation?

Bush does not need to say I am taking this decision in the name of christianity. All he needs to do is to have always identified with the views of the religious right - what were (and are) his views on abortion, same sex marriage, stem cell research. All these were governed by christian values just like Palin's are now.
Of course Pat Robertson has  always supported Bush. The same evangelist recommending that President Chevaz of Venezuela be assassinated so that Islamic "extremism" does not come into that country
BTW, why do christians automatically side with the west when there is a dispute with a muslim country. Somebody here was even giving reasons for the Iraqi war that the Americans did not advance
America said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. It was a lie.   


And you are saying that the man should bring evidence of inter-religious marriage from the North.
1. Are you saying that those people he mentioned are not muslims?
2. Or are you saying muslims are not allowed to marry christians
3. Or are you saying that to you, you take as evidence anything done only by the muslims from the North
He has brought 3 examples from his own religion; bring AT LEAST one from yours

How many times has a muslim gone inside a church to denounce christianity? None. Yet a christian undergraduate did it to muslims in UI mosque. Several newspapers kept quiet about it.

MeGaStReEt:

I am sorry to say, but another name for Islam = MADNESS


http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/woman-to-be-hanged-for-speaking-against-islam/question-1340651/


45-year-old Asia Bibi, to death, not because she killed, injured or stole, but simply because she said something against Islam.

The alleged incident happened in June 2009 when Bibi, a field worker, was picking fruit in a village two hours west of Lahore. Prosecutors say when Bibi dipped her cup into a bucket of drinking water during a lunch break, her co-workers complained the water had been contaminated by a non-Muslim.

Prosecutors say Bibi, who is a Christian, broke Pakistan's strict blasphemy law by insulting Islam and the prophet Muhammad, a crime punishable by death or life imprisonment according to Pakistan's penal code.


so much madness, and no sign of PEACE

I am sorry, but another name for christians = hypocrites
What is the punishment for blasphemy in the Bible? Leviticus 24 : 16

^^^
globalisation comes with its demerits. Homosexuals could not talk in 80s? Today atheism is openly acknowledged.
Christians do not help matters. A man opens a thread to appeal to muslims to fight extremism. People now say all muslims are hypocrites.

sojjy:

@crackles,don't accuse men of God wrongly.Even if T.B is a fraud,you don't need to judge him as judgement only lies in God hands.I jst pity Yara'adua 4 wat Turai has turned him to.Power drunk turai.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-405152.0.html

Look at this type of statement - others can be judged, but not christians!

rhymz:

. . Spot on sister! The non-muslims they are busy educating are not even interested in whether islam is as soft as wool or not, nobody here( me inclusive) will budge on what we believe about that religion not when the so-called Radical few with a flawed bent of mind are busy wreaking havoc in their society and justifying themselves using the Koran. How many times have they actually engaged these extremists in a serious debate of islamic ideology or correct their misconception of certain vague instructions that are rife in the Koran and can give way to so many interpretations as it has become evident from the goings-on. I ve seen Christians debate over certain doctrines in christiandom, people have challenged the authority of the Pope, irrespective of what history has told us about doing so. Today we ve the protestants-former Roman catholics that protested certain doctrines and then broke away to form their own organized religion in line with their own convictions of the bible. Thesame example is witnessed today by millions of Anglicans who are opposed to samesex marriages and have also decided to cut relations with the leadership of the Cantabury and form their own leadership in line with their own beliefs.
Muslims should learn to be open to issues and no hold-barz debate, that is how to help people to think and use their brains. They should stop being vague all the time with their usual mantra of "Islam is a religion of Peace", unless that serves as a placebo to make them feel all right about themselves and their religion, the reality does not support the cliché, simple!

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
-  Mahatma Gandhi

Christian televangelist Pat Robertson Says U.S. Should Kill Venezuela's Chavez
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aHRr2Ul10eC0&refer=latin_america

Can you see here that Christians like to recommend what they do not have?

I can see that you have not even been following what is happening in the religious sphere. So you really believe that suspected terrorists that are released are not "educated"? Do you think people who leave Gitmo Bay  go straight home!

Much has been said about the Quran

From the book of Mathew. Please explain these to us


32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.

34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[b]

37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it

@naijangel7
I have read his posts. I am not so confident that all things have passed away. Look at Abu Ghraib. 14th century can happen again. Did you believe that Germany could gas children and women to death in the 20th century? We know what alqeda want. we need to know find out what boko haram want? every life saved cos of that is worth it. although it is different situation and struggle but Abacha killed many ogonis. the problem did not go away!

@Betathings.
Good attempt. But looks like Christians want you guys to leave matters the way they are and let Boko Haram kill as much as they want.

asamuel:

not surprised. islam is always a religion of war from mohammed to now they kill human beings for joy

londoner:

@betathings, those examples you sight are from the years, 1605, 1572 and 1562,


You say people fight when under pressure. Educate me, which pressure are the Boko Haram people under in present day Nigeria or in any time in Nigeria's history?

Londoner, please explain to him that he is quoting ancient example

Nsiman:

"Like play like play" gej fit win lagos for pdp ooo

So how many elections has GEJ won in his own name. Because he became president through "scholarship", he is now an election winner! Anyway
Like play, like lucky dip, like rigging, like fabricated text messages, like intimidation and strike force (Anenih, Daniel, Akala), like manipulation of chairmanship of PDP, like manipulation of primaries schedule, like giving Bankole and David Mark the opportunity to buy their officials quarters, like horse trading - automatic ticket for even non-performing governors, like compiling "ghosted" conversations on facebook and calling it a book (even with his PhD while even the tyrant, Obasanjo,a military man, wrote a book a long time ago), yes like all of those, GEJ can "win" Lagos

ayusman16:

How can he condemn what his peeps perpetrated, anyway, he is Yoruba and cannot speak for the Hausa Muslims.

Then make up your mind. Is it ethnic show or a religious affair.

Nsiman:

Of what good is it If we use the media to condemn and pushing for it behind the media?

This is irresponsible! Are you saying when Muslims were dumped in wells in January this year, some pastors secretly instigated it?

Kobojunkie:

Problem is many of the drivers do not even know when they have or about to break these traffic laws. There are cases of people going the wrong way down one lane roads with no clear signs indicating it is a one-lane road. This happens quite a lot --only recently to a friend from out of state, home to visit. I believe there is another thread where you have people highlighting this problem.

That is correct. The higher the fine for breaking the law, the greater the incentive for both parties to reach "out-of-officialdom" settlement. Settling with N10k is a far cry than paying N50k through a time-wasting process
But some people drive against the traffic even on 3rd mainland bridge - that is not due to insufficient signage.

feyiad:

I really want PDP to take over Lagos State. ACN they behave like Touts, uneducated people.

Really? Yes we need to bring in the educated people like Tokyo and Adedibu and gentlemen like Akala, Gbenga Daniel, Anenih,
BTW in 2003, Ogun state gave PDP a chance. Now NO tertiary instiution is open. The House of Assembly has not sat for months. In Oyo State, are you envious of their "achievements" since their gave PDP a chance?

Reference:

Haba, so if the PDP fellow is of a better character, has a better manifesto and a track record to go with it. So if the electorate trust him, it is taboo all because he belongs to the hated party. Kudos to those who preach equity here. Me I know no person nor party, just the common good for all. And I know one way to ensure it. Allow political pluralism. Power corrupts and the more powerful the ACN becomes, the more corrupt and inefficient it will become. With an all conquering ACN, cross-carpeting cannot be avoided and those who do wrong will still find their way to power. We cannot have it both ways.

If he is such a good person, will he join a party described as a "nest of killers", the exponents of garrison democracy, do-or-die. If he is that good, he can get on the ticket of an unknown party. Jimi Agbaje created a sensation with DPN in 2007 and that was for governorship election

Beaf:

Please take careful note of the highlighted items and then provide your several proofs to your statement below. If you do that, I will indeed apologise, but if you can't, would you be man enough to apologise to me?

Like I preached earlier, its best to keep away from low blows, whether to candidates or fellow NLers, we need to rise above petty politics for the sake of ourselves, GEJ, Ribadu and Nigeria.

haha - man enough?
I have apologised in the past to people I did not offend in order keep discussion civil
Of course, I would. Just wait

Beaf:

If petty people hadn't clutched at the nearest straws to damn GEJ with, nobody would mentioning nonesense like charisma and spoken English. When did these things rise to any importance in a country where a 300km road journey has been known to last 3 days (Lagos - Benin), there is epileptic power supply and in the North where illiteracy is highest, Boko Haram is running rampant, burning and killing in a macabre fight for the right to remain illiterate and backward?

I put the blame squarely at the feet of people like yourself. As an example, rather than mention a tangible weakness, you are belittling GEJ's PhD.
Belittling knowledge is a disgrace in any developing country, especially one like ours that is creaking in all four corners and wobbling like a wretch hung on the devils brew.
It is for people like yourself sir, to raise your game. Leave the tired old gutter slander behind, leave it for the miseducated and societal dregs on the street corners, we have a job on hand and it is building this country from the ground up, from all cardinal points, North, South, East, and west. The job is about dragging our people out of the gutter, not burying ourselves in there too.

When it is recalled that the first attacks on GEJ's diction were on his so called Ijaw accent, and how that accent was poverty stricken compared to Northern ones; the full shame hits one in the face. The initial goal of the attacks on GEJ's accent, were to make him sound like he is unfamiliar, too minority to be Nigerian, especially with jibes like, "he has no political structures" (read that as code for, he is from a minority with no say in this country). When the above is coupled with zoning, the full force of Nigeria's petty and trible politics in all its gory faecal glory, hits the observer smack between the eye's.

Nigeria's empty, directionless, low-blow politics is the big beast we must coral and destroy. That is the real task for you and I, it forbids casting aspersion on an earned PhD or any knowledge, it forbids petty issues. leave petty things to petty mind, who do not matter in the wider scheme of things.

I always advise that we do not call people names
For instance you said I told a pack of lies above
If I prove that you actually said those things, would you apologise

Anyway let us get to brass tacks
GEj is directly/indirectly responsible for that Benin-Ore road
His candidate - Mrs Alliison Madueke went there to weep as Minister of Works
What happened, nothing
and Mrs Madueke's continue to get very impotant ministerial positions

Blaming me for not addressing tangible weakness of GEJ's?
To start with I corrected somebody's comparison of Ribadu to GEJ
Should we allow him get away with that unfair and grossly biased exercise?
Furthermore you yourself have mentioned Ribadu's disjointed sentences

You accuse Ribadu of going around with Tinubu who is corrupt
Now that is something GEJ is more guilty of
Who are the people around Johnathan - pure crooks
Akala (can you imagine! in a civilised society. A PhD holder with a common thug)
Daniel (see how he broke all rules of sense and decency to try and get his bond approved)
And if you know how that bond was approved at the exchange, you will be shocked
Anenih, former minister of works and we are back to Benin - Ore road again,  are we not?
Obj - Odi, Anambra, Bakassi, incorporation of Galaxy Backbone, Bells University, Zaki Biam, N7b presidential library,
Largest farm in the major zones, Transcorp etc

Who is worse here?

And I still say that with GEJ's PhD much was expected
If he has grammar issues as a lecturer, I just have a nagging feeling he is not thorough enough
Let me remind you - a dinner was hosted in Lagos for Yaradua and Johnathan in 2007 while they were campaigning
Prof Bolaji Akinyemi said you know I always respect intellectuals
Mr Ijewere said 2 university lecturers? - this is an incredible ticket!
I have heard rumours of GEJ's weaknesses - I would not mention them without proof/attribution
But do you think there a Nigerian politician who has held political office for 10years without any secret?

BTW you will never see me criticise a group of people - accent, manners etc do not matter
Although I point out to the hypocrisy of southerners when they criticise northerners
Did you think if we had a Prof Claude Ake as an aspirant, I would give these other guys the time of day?
I respected him intellectually and he is not likely to join the PDP gang

The last paragraph applies more to you
1. Nothing good is likely to come out of PDP
2. I really want the best for this country but people have some sub optimal concerns (the north, IBB, Atiku etc)
3. You never concede that there is anything wrong with your candidate - being Mr Perfect is against human nature
4. And I still feel that we have had enough visioning 2000, 2010, 2015, 2020. Sincerity to pursue these vision is what we now require in my opinion. look at NEEDS. Visioning without action is day dreaming. I submit that sincerity that Ribadu brings is more important now than visions

I pray for this country - I actually pray that if GEJ wins I am proved wrong
Lastly I believe in zoning - it makes it go round. Without it anybody who has the population will monopolise power
People who dislike zoning are just not examining it thoroughly because they also want power zoned to the incumbent
I know the North does not want to wait till 2019
The Igbos do not want to wait till 2019
How can we bring everybody together on this matter? it bothers me
and these interests cannot be dismissed lightly

May God bless this country

papabaks:

All you anti GEJ, should better go and rethink and accept that, this is Gods doing,  Criticized or not GEJ is the next president come 2011,  

All we need is no Fraudster or anyone that have any record or frauds,

Once you have failed in one sector, that show how incapable you might be in handling bigger responsibilities. GEJ Records has been clean and challenging to all politician in this country. A good leader and a wonderful listener,  

ALL HIS(GEJ) ASKING FOR IS FOR US ALL TO SUPPORT HIM AND MAKE THIS COUNTRY A GRATE NATION WITH GOOD PEOPLE,

Thanks

We will tell GEJ supporters in our communities that God has done it and should not bother to vote for him again
I will tell those who want to oust PDP to pray hard and go out and vote enmasse to rid Nigeria of the evil called PDP


But seriously, do you believe that GEJ can make this country great?

He supports only his home state to the detriment of the constitution and other parts
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Money/5631884-146/bayelsa_derivation_revenue_may_trigger_crisis.csp
http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68763:rowdy-session-in-faac-over-bayelsa-concession&catid=43:news&Itemid=799

He is embarrsassing us in South Africa with the shoddy case there
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5632720-146/counsel_asks_court_to_grant_okah.csp

He does not believe in sovereign national conference
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/10/forget-sovereign-national-confab-jonathan/

We are borrowing steadily again
http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68760:reps-kick-against-jonathans-request-for-44-billion-loan&catid=43:news&Itemid=799

He is politicking too much
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5632742-146/senate_throws_out_electoral_act_amendment.csp

He is covering up the halliburton case
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Crime/5630956-146/the_halliburton_bribe_cover-up__.csp

Beaf:

You will find that the math for that has already been done and all i's dotted, plus all t's crossed. Nigerians spend a whopping $13billa on generators every year!!! 40% of the cost of business in Nigeria is spent on generators!!!
Even if you double or triple or quadruple or quintuple or. . .  The cost would still be a mere fraction of the cost of powering a gen. Which will you choose?

But that is slanted math
To start with, do you think he is capturing the costs to people who do not use and cannot afford generator at all
Forget barbers, do you think welders have been buying generators?
No, can they afford the higher tariff
I support higher tariff if it will enable us enjoy light
But you cannot argue that everyone will be able to afford
We pay around N8 now, for it to be viable, it will have to go to around N18

semid4lyfe:

Hehehehehe. . . .LWKMDFH
Euphemisms don't come better than this:

Fact is Ribadu's articulation is terrible and worse than Jonathan's (which is okay IMO). To say his command of English is appalling will be an understatement. I watched him on tv during Fayemi's swearing-in and I was like _{WTF! Shey na the Ribadu wey some men dey hype for Nairaland be this?}. He was magnificently pathetic & had nothing upstairs.. He only succeeded in convincing me not to vote for him. It's seems the people who are talking about (re)packaging him have forgotten that an old dog can't be taught new tricks. ._{Put lipstick & beautiful clothes on a pig and it'd still behave like one}

No amount of repackaging/rebranding can help Ribadu. I'm so looking forward to a GEJ vs Ribadu presidential debate. 

Is GEJ articulation so inspiring
A PhD holder - I am astounnded
Hear - people will feel one kind
the youths take to ammunition
we are not in a political dispensation

Even Beaf does not want us to discuss this achile's heel of his man

houvest:

I believe that Ribadu, BRF, Amechi, PU, Soludo, El Ruffai,Duke are for the future. Not now. Beaf's advice is apt. NR should goto the house and after 4 years he will be ready.

I disagree
Beaf has been saying that anybody who is older than GEJ is too old
and anybody who is younger than GEJ is not ready
Beaf is frenetically clearing the deck for his man GEJ, Mr Perfect!

Beaf:

Can you back up this statement with believable quotes and references? I doubt it.

Anyways, lets not derail a thread about Ribadu (I blame mbulela).

I hope you realise that the entire roadmap is predicated on the Electric Power Sector Reform Act of 2005
Chronologically, GEJ's plan was prepared with the benefit of Obj's plan and GEJ is building on it

This is not 2004 with the 2 of them sitting side by side to prepare competing plans

jesus.:

@ jcross19, Chuksxp, yommyuk and toba

U guys shouldnt bother educating folks that are enemies with wisdom, knowledge and truth. I cant imagine anyone in hs/hr correct sense referring to the muslims mohammad as the comforter or trying to equate christ with the islamic mohammad.

@ Chuksxp, yommyuk. I love your latest posts its really revealing

I cannot imagine Jesus Christ (PBUH) referring to human beings in this manner

Beaf:

What would you think if the PDP chairman of Bayelsa said any of the things Enagi said?
Dude, IBB is fried.

We have heard that before - 2 weeks ago, Dokpesi was fried

Please can you do us a favour and
FRY ALL of them in PDP
That would be a Godsent!