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malvisguy212:
God bless you. Good morning.

Thank you my brother, God bless you too.

Muslims say the Bible is corrupt but would not leave it alone. They need it to approve islam.

Philip findeth Nathanael and saith unto him, ''We have found him of whom Moses in the Law and the PROPHETS did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph (John 1:45).

And he (Jesus) said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which WERE WRITTEN IN THE LAW OF ''MOSES'' AND IN THE ''PROPHETS'' AND IN THE ''PSALM'' concerning ''ME''(Luke 24:44).

All prophets talk of Jesus, the coming prophet. Islam is not in God's programme.

Reallymilky:
U see my brother,it take foresight to sight the beauty of islam and nt everyone is blessed with that.I am a muslim,am no terrorist and I'd rather nt be alive than leave islam...dats ao beautiful islam is..I feel the fair way to judge a particular set of ppl or their believes is to learn abt dem without bias,irrespective of ur faith sentiments or wat the majority believed it to be...

Tell us the beauties of islam vis-a -vis the immoralities and terrorism permitted.

Reallymilky:
It take more wisdom than u possess to understand the beauty of islam. Instead of lazing around compiling hadiths of the holy prophet and interpreting it with ur little wisdom...seek for knowledge and be open minded in viewing islam as a whole. U sound so shallow dat I don't even know ao to educate u.

Explain the meaning of that hadith and let's see what allah meant.

EnlightenedSoul:
Allah is the holy god in the religion of Islam.

There is no special Islamic definition of holiness.

If allah is holy, what is the meaning of he being holy?

EnlightenedSoul:
In monotheism, every act is inevitably believed to have come to fruition through the will of God. Every bad deed (murder, stealing, adulterous act, rape, etc) has been 'recorded'. Ditto good deeds.

That's why you hear some people speak of 'God's plan', and ask "Why would God do this to me/us?!" when they experience evil at the hands of another human being.

The usual reply: "He (god) must be testing you/us"

Before I talk further, I want to ask you:

Is allah a holy god?

What is islamic definition of holiness?

AllNaijaBlogger:
I am a normal christian. Of course, Allah and Yahweh are different if we are talking about Islam and christianity. But now, we are talking of "Allah" as a generic title- a name for God.

Olodumare is a different god from Yahweh but at times, Yorubas still use it as a generic title to refer to Yahweh.
I hope you see my point

Go and read my earler post on who Muhammad's allah truly is. Even allah said he is not the God of the Jews and Christians (Quran 109:1-6).

Islam is attractive to only those who want to enjoy immoralities that islam offers and eventually go to hell. Immoralities like:

- Marrying a baby girl

- Exchanging old wife for a new one

- Paying and marrying a woman as temporary wife.

- Rap.ing slave women.

- Breastfeeding grown up boys.

- Muhammad marrying his son's wife.

Islam is full of immoralities that will take mankind to Hell.

AllNaijaBlogger:
I'm of the opinion that the op's write up hasn't been given a fair consideration.


It is okay for an Arab christian to say "Allahu Akbar" if the christian truly believes he is worshiping Yahweh. There is no need for us christians to be hung up on a trivial issue.

However, I am not surprised about the harsh treatment the op is receiving. I believe that it is not everyone that is happy at the strict treatment of non-muslims on the islam section and they are using the anger on the op.

Salaam

You must be a muslim, a chrislam or a norminal Christian to say this.

Yahweh is not Muhammad's allah (Quran 109:1-6).

What allah did is characteristic of the Devil, wanting man to sin against the true God. That was what he did to Adam and Evil, he tricked them to commit sin against God. Allah (an Arabian god) was and is tricking muslims to commit sins against the true God by making them to commit various immoralities that never EXISTED before Muhammad. Islam is immoralities 'perfected' (packaged) for muslims. It is a pity.

Empiree:
^ You see, when he first quoted that hadith, i wanted to be sure he was right.

So i checked the hadith and smiled.

I didnt to reply him. I figured already his is devoid of guidance.

The hadith is very clear to a sincere knowledge seeker needless to say of "People Of The

Book"....they should easily grasp the subject.

Problem is, bigotry has blinded most of them.

Veil is over their heart so they can not understand.

It's common knowledge that no religion permits such a thing (except their blasphemies in their buybull).

The thing is, they are jealous and despirate seeing the rate people turning to islam. Look at this threads
https://www.nairaland.com/2123320/500-revert-islam-because-simplicity

https://www.nairaland.com/2120261/christianitys-crisis-deepens-ethnic-danes

What you said did not explain why allah was encouraging muslims to commit adultery. None of you could defend it and are just talking irrelevant things. Smh!

EnlightenedSoul:
OP, I don't think you understand the concept of god in monotheism.

So Muhammad's monotheism is equal to sexual immoralities?

[quote author=tola9ja post=30345362][/quote]What is your point here?

David committed adultery.

Solomon committed adultery.

Was it Yahweh who fixed or ordained it for them like allah said? If man is sinful, should a holy God encourage him like allah did?

What is perfect or perfected about islam? The disgusting immoralities as never seen before Muhammad? Jokers!

alienvirus:
Prove me wrong and let me expose you further.

Where did you know me? Liar.

Now defend your immoral religion:

- Your allah gave you a mandate to commit adultery, what an immoral god.

- Your prophet married Aisha, a baby of 6 years, what a disgusting act!

- Your allah ordered Muhammad to marry his adopted son's wife, what a disgusting act!

- You allah, after permitting as many as 4 wives still allow you to have a 'temporary wife'. Paying a woman to be sleeping with her temporarily, another name for prostitution and adultery, what an unholy god!

- You allah permitted exchange of old wife for a young one, what a god!

- You allah permitted you to rape slave women despite all the sexual provision, what an immoral and violent god!

- You prophet enjoined suckling grown up boy, what a moral decadence!

Everything about islam is immorality and wickedness. Smh!

Rilwayne001:
I've been advised to shun ignoramus on this section.

You have no choice but keep quiet in the face of truth with clear evidences. I pray the scale of deception will fall off your eyes in Jesus name.

I love you.

Anas09:
My God, I just tried to conjure up Allah's paradise In my head. Mehnnnnn. Sex go plenty oooooo. Every where men hAving sex. O satan u r really wicked. Knowing how much God hates sextual immorality, he made it the strongest point in Islam. Awwww. Lord Jesus deliver ur people, u died for them too. These ur apostles are doing a lot to reveal the truth to them. Holy spirit, convicts them of their sins and draw them close to u, that they maybe set free from the clutches of satan. In Jesus name I pray.

Amen! So shall it be in Jesus name.

Rilwayne001:
www.nairaland.com/1933529/quran-testifies-david-elizabeth-worshiped/1

So you've been around. You talk only when you think you have a point.

malvisguy212:
is this what you understand from his post? Am surprise. Yes God in Arabic is Allah, but the points is this, there nature is far opposites from each other, is like the different between life and death.

Truthman2012. God bless you.

Thank you bro, God bless you too.

Where is tbaba na? He has picked race.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
guess dey re tired of hearing d truth abt dem prophet, by now I guess we trying to open their minds on d nid to condemn their prophet numerous crimes against humanity. How will a sane person still be praising muhammed after d plagues he brought ito dis world?

Muslims are in spiritual bondage. If not, how could a right thinking person believe Muhammad was a prophet of God after the so much exposures of his dirty and wicked acts? Would they have believed Jesus if the case is the opposite?

alienvirus:
Nope. He is doing that because he has a very boring life. He was a product of rape from a bandit.

I have decided to expose the Devil who disguised as God in the quran to deceive mankind.

Muslims and their addicted lying! How did you conclude what you said about me? Liar.

timonski:
Truthman2012 are yhu posting all these to get attention?

Whose attention?

Who knows me when they see me?

My intention is to expose the falsehood of islam so that innocent people will not fall into the trap.

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Rilwayne001 Empire or Empires Abuman Zeezahbee de aishat of our time Ayinba 1 should come and talk oooo guess dey re beginning to doubt allah, or dey re afraid dat more allah lies will be exposed. Lol

They wouldn't come. They only come when they think they can debunk the OP.

Abuamam:
Allahu Akbar.
On my behalf and the good christian Bishop's.

Smh!

A spiritually ignorant bishop.

And when thou saidst unto him on whom Allah hath conferred favour: Keep thy wife to thyself and fear Allah. And thou didst hide in thy mind that which was to bring to light and thou did fear mankind whereas allah had a better right that thou shouldst fear Him. So when Zeyd had performed the necessary formality (of divorce) from her, We gave her unto thee in marriage, so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have performed the necessary formality of release from them. The commandment of allah must be fulfilled.

There is no reproach [/b]for the Prophet in that which Allah maketh his due. [b]That was allah's way with those who passed away of old - and the commandment of allah is certain destiny (Quran 33:37-38).

The above verses are enough for any reasonable person to detect that allah could not be the true God.

I want to put the muslims to serious tasks here:

First, he said "when he (Zeyd) have performed necessary formality of divorce from her". Why did Zeyd divorce his wife?

Second, he said " so that (henceforth) there may be no sin for believers in respect of wives of their adopted sons",. This is an established order. Why were there no more muslims marrying their adopted sons' wives before adoption was abolished? Why did allah suddenly abolish adoption of children after an established order, did he not know he was going to abolish it?

Third, he said "There is no reproach for the Prophet in that which Allah maketh his due. So allah new highjacking one's adopted son's wife could bring a reproach.

Finally, he said " That was allah's way with those who passed away of old - and the commandment of allah is certain destiny". Which of the prophets of old was ordered by God to marry the wife of his adopted son? This is one of many serious lies by allah.

tbaba1234:
Nonsense, when will you stop spewing ignorance??

Arab christians and jews used Allah even before the advent of Islam..

The Arabs knew Allah even before Islam as the supreme creator, idols were supposed to be intercessors to God.

I have taken it to mean that you admitted other points as you could only comment on a few ones.

@the bolded: educate us now! I qouted an authoritative hadith to support my points, is that what you called ignorance? Smh! Keep deceiving yourself. This is the usual lame defence by muslims.

Now, are you interested in knowing more about islam, the real truth? Come here: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Pagan_Origins_of_Islam

Then come back and educate us.

Empiree:
You need to look in the mirror. You are not being realistic. You should start by looking about you. Nonsense

Let's see your defence na!

I thought many muslims on NL are very knowledgeable, am I mistaken?

tbaba1234:
Does that make all arab christians, non christians??

They all use Allah for God.

As I have said earlier, no true church of Christ would say "allau akbar" It was nowhere said by Christians in the Bible, whose example we are following today. Our God is not in competition with any other gods as muslims' allah, hence they praise him saying "allau akbar" after destroying
other idols and retaining his father's own.

It is true Allah in Arabic means God. It is also true the Arabs call whatever they believe as God 'Allah'. Allah had been worshiped in Kaaba before the advent of Muhammad. He was among the 360 gods in there. The same Allah was the god being worshiped in Muhammad's family.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 009, Book 087, Hadith Number 111.

Narrated By 'Aisha : The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light.[b]He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights.[/b]He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous... up to... that which he knew not." (96.15)

Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good reactions with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to (her cousin) Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza bin Qusai. Waraqa was the son of her paternal uncle, i.e., her father's brother, who during the Pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the Arabic writing and used to write of the Gospels in Arabic as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to him, "O my cousin! Listen to the story of your nephew." Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" The Prophet described whatever he had seen........................

We know Mutaleb, Muhammad's grandfather as an idol worshiper. His son Abdullai also an idol worshiper. The word Abdullai means servant of Allah, given to him by his father (Mutaleb), an idol worshiper. It is therefore very clear that Abudullai was named after Mutaleb's god, allah.

As you can see from the above hadith, Muhammad was an adherent of allah even before the 'truth' descended upon him. He went to worship allah and the truth that came upon him was the continuation of worship of the same allah.

Muhammad came back home with pains following his encounter with Gabriel, that was a demonic encounter. No other prophets had such painful experience with the true God's angel.

Because God is called allah in Arabic is the confusion the Devil throws to the world. Many people including ignorant Christians believe that Muhammad's allah (the one that was among 360 idols in Kaaba) is the same as the allah of the Arab Christians. The Arabs' Christian Allah has a Son as contained in their Bible, but Muhammad's Allah has none. It is a coincidence of name.

First, what is tbaba doing here after you have closed your section to ''infidels''? Now you want to interact with them.

A church that says 'allau akbar' is not the church of Christ. We are not so taught in the Bible. Besides, our Lord Jesus is not into competition with any other gods, so there is no reason to say He is great or greatest.