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Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 9:00pm On Sep 14, 2014
Abdulsalam20: AS I HAVE SAID I AM NT HERE TO INTERFERE BECAUSE I KNOW HE WILL HAVE ANSWER U I JUST COME HERE TO TELL U D TRUTH
CONCERNING 2:62 READ IT FORWARD THE VERSE IS NT SAYING CHRISTINS ARE GOING TO HEVEN
1:62 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.1:63 And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai) : (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."1:64 But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.1:65 And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."1:66 So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.1:67 And remember Moses said to his people: "(Allah) commands that ye sacrifice a heifer." They said: "Makest thou a laughing-stock of us?" He said: "(Allah) save me from being an ignorant (fool)!"
1:69 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.1:70 We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent them apostles, every time, there came to them an apostle with what they themselves desired not - some (of these) they called impostors, and some they (go so far as to) slay.1:71 They thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf; yet Allah (in mercy) turned to them; yet again many of them became blind and deaf. But Allah sees well all that they do.1:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.1:73 They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. SO READ BEFORE POSTING
I have explained it before but you still did not understand.

Allah knew everything you gave as your excuses including Trinity and Jesus as God's Son being believed by Christians before he confirmed we are going to heaven.

Or are you saying allah did not know what Christians believe when he promised them heaven?

If he (allah) didn't know Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God, why did he talk about it in the quran?

If Allah didn't know about Christianity and Trinity, why did he talk about it in the quran?

So, despite allah knowing everything about Christianity, he still confirmed we are going to have reward in heaven. Other verses that negate that promise is CONTRADICTION, DECEPTION and MANIPULATION.

I still repeat my question: What is the NEED for islam since Christianity that was in existence before it is good enough for mankind to go to heaven?

I tell you the truth, islam is NOT NEEDED and it is not in the true God's agenda.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 6:33pm On Sep 14, 2014
malvisguy212: uptil now no answer, we can see how satan is planing to divert the gospel of christ, if allah promise the christians heaven, then no need for islam.

The devil is lier.
.....the devil is a liar. Yes oh!
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 6:28pm On Sep 14, 2014
Abdulsalam20: I ALREADY KNOW U WILL DENY IT.....U DONT WORTH ARGUING WITH.....BECAUSE U DONT GIVE REFERENCE FOR ANYTHNG U POSTED I PROVE U WRONG AND NOW U ARE DENYING IT
Can you read and understand anything? I cited quran 2:62 and even Rilwayne added 5:69 to it. It shows you don't read and understand before you start pasting just anything, relevant or irrelevant. You need deliverance from islamic demons.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 6:13pm On Sep 14, 2014
"e author=Abdulsalam20] PLS I NEED THE VERSE WHERE ALLAH SAY CHRISTIANS ARE GOING TO HEAVEN BECAUSE THERE IS NO VERSE THAT SAY SO
CONCERNING YOUR POST WHERE JESUS SAY HE IS A SON OF GOD:::JESUS ADRESS EVERYBODY AS SON OF GOD

"I ascend unto my Father, and your
Father, and to my God, and your God."
John 20:17 .
SO JESUS IS NOT SON OF GOD
All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, "Blessed are the
peace-makers; they will be called
sons of God."
The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the
Bible, God apparently addresses
many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The
Hebrews believed God is One, and had
neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is
obvious the expression ‘son of God’
merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful
service, was close and dear to God
as a son is to his father.
Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background,
later misused this term. In their
heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or
someone born of a physical union
between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14:
11-13, where we read that when
Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans
claimed they were gods incarnate.
They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the
Roman god Hermes.
Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as
‘son’ are ‘pias’ and ‘paida’ which
mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are
translated to ‘son’ in reference to
Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all others in some
translations of the Bible. So, consistent
with other verses, Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s
servant.
God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues
to forgive without any assistance.
When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere
repentance to receive forgiveness.
Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved
is made to all humankind.
‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior;
there is none beside Me. Look to
Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God,
and there is none else.’ (Isaiah
45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10)[/quote]I find it very difficult to descend to your level. If you are not versed enough in your quaran, didn't you read the post? Why should ask for the verse?

You said Jesus preached islam and I proved to you He didn't, then see the nonsense you pasted as your response. Keep swimming in your falsehood. No truth is enough to liberate anyone who refuses to see it. I may not respond to your post again.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 5:06pm On Sep 14, 2014
Abdulsalam20: so u can accuse a person for derailing when you are the oga....u throw questions to defend yourself when the question u asked has been unexpectedly answered..........and moreover if you are sure of what you are practicing you should be able to answer any question relating to it..............and u allege me of derailing i didnt derail u ask a rightly guided man toleave the true way and be worshiping a prophet instead of GOD and i responded that jesus is not lord jesus is a prophet and jesus only come to preach islam.......#gbam#
Firstly allah confirms Chritianity is good enough to take people to heaven, so how could Jesus have preached islam? Even the Devil and other evil spirits know only true Christians will make it to heaven.

Does islam believe in the Sonship of Jesus? See what Jesus said concerning Himself:

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest, because I said I AM THE SON OF GOD? (John 10:36).

Jesus called Himself SON of God, is that what islam preaches? Islam is not in the programme of the true God. Stop deceiving yourself and accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 4:16pm On Sep 14, 2014
danthamccoy: Following your logic, where the old religions capable of taking mankind to heaven? (Abraham, Elisha etc). What then is the use of Christianity?
I am not an atheist by the way.
I have been expecting this question long ago.

God had plan for the NT of the Christians since the time of the OT. There is the Law and the Grace dispensation.

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Not according to the COVENANT that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord (Jeremiah 31:31-32). God had promised of new covenant (New Testament) in the Old Testament.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace (Isaiah 9:6). This is talking about Jesus, the author of the New Testament.

Islam could not have come from the true God because it was not in His agenda.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 3:19pm On Sep 14, 2014
Abdulsalam20: Truthman is back grin WELL I DONT HAVE MUCH TO SAY SO U CAN ACCUSE SOMEONE FOR NOT ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION WHEN U YOURSELF U DONT ANSWER ANY QUESTION EVEN IF THE QUESTION YOU ASKED HAS BEEN ANSWERED BUT INSTEAD OF YOU TO ANSWER U WILL AT TIMES RAN AWAY..........but i trusr rilwayne he has answer u u might just have a bias mind WELL! I HAVE JUST COME HERE TO TELL YOU THAT JESUS IS A PROPHET HE IS NOT GOD/LORD JESUS IS NOT DEAD AND ALSO THAT THE ONLY SALVATION AVAILAILABLE IS ISLAM
Pls don't derail this thread as you usually do. Also note that I don't answer any question not related to the subject of a post, which you call my running away.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 2:32pm On Sep 14, 2014
Rilwayne001: What should i expect from a stiff necked gainsayers.huh grin.


have a nice day.
No muslim has the answer to that question. By now, apart from islamic hypnotism, muslims should be able to see clearly that islam is satanic manipulation. Pls accept Jesus as your Saviour.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 2:27pm On Sep 14, 2014
arsenalwenger: allah is a manipulative arabian idol exhorted as a god. Anywhere allah is memtioned, wat you see is killing and destruction of 'infidels'.

Ask the ISIS leader or anjem chaudry (a british-pakistani muslims zealout), you will get an honest answer. NL muslims are here to whitewash and launder islamic mess.
You are very right.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 12:59pm On Sep 14, 2014
Rilwayne001: Now, reading Quran 5:69 and 72 gives a clear view of what God was saying in Quran 2:62.

Quran 5:69 Surely, those who believed and the Jews and Sabians and Christians - whosoever believed in Allâh and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

As you can see the same messqge of Quran 2:62 was reitrated here. Now reading the Surah further, let us see what Allah say about these christians in talk.


Quran 5:72 Indeed, they have disbelieved who say, "Behold,God is the Christ, son of Mary" - seeing that the Christ [himself] said, "O children of Israel! Worship God [alone], who is my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer."" Behold, whoever ascribes divinity to any being beside God, unto him will God deny paradise, and his abode shall be the fire: and such evildoers will have none to aid them.

And indeed jesus said it in Mark that he is not God almighty, that God share no divinity with anyone.

Mark 12: 29 Jesus replied, “The most important commandment is this: ‘Listen, O Israel! The LORD our God is the ONE and ONLY LORD.

Futher reading of the Quran 3:85 And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.

I dont want to go into the historical context of surah 2:62 because you will still remain cantankerous. grin grin



Good morning Sire grin
Your answer is not acceptable. Your try to fabricate just any explanation is not successful.

Allah's promise of heaven includes the Jews, who also believe in one-God. But we know how Muhammad was later killing them. For what?

Concerning the Christians, allah already knew they believe in Jesus as Son of God and he even talked about Christians' belief in Trinity. Therefore Allah was fully aware of Christians' belief before he promised them reward in heaven.

Since in spite of Christians' belief allah still promised them heaven, it means their belief is right. Still saying anything to negate that amounts to contradiction, deceit and manipulation.

The question remains: why the NEED for islam as Christianity is capable of giving reward to its adherents?
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op):
Rilwayne001: Do you even know what happened in:
The First Council in Nicaea I - 325

The Second Council in Constantinople I - 381

The Third Council in Ephesus - 431

The Fourth Council in Chalcedon - 451

The Fifth Council in Constantinople II - 553

The Sixth Council of Constantinople III - 680-81

The Seventh Council of Nicaea II - 787 huh
Who set up the Council and for what?

Were they discussing the word of God that was already settled in HEAVEN?

If allah confirmed that God's word cannot be changed as in Quran 6:115, did those Councils flout his word or what happened?

I'm sure you are not trying to say the Council changed the word of God, which means allah's word is not reliable.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op):
malvisguy212: check this lies again:

Are there errors in the Qur’an? – Are there historical inaccuracies? While the list of historical inaccuracies and anachronisms is vast, one has been selected for discussion here. Surah 20 relays the incident of the golden calf. In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read: “He [Allah] said, ‘We have tempted thy people since thou didist leave them. The Samaratin has led them into error.’ Then Moses returned…and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire.’ (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, ‘This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten.’)… Moses said, ‘And thou, Samaritan, what was thy business?’” Now, let us consider this for just a moment. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses (approx 1400 B.C.) when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri about 870 B.C.? The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C. with non-Israelites who then adopted a syncretism (mixture) between the religion of the Jews and their own polytheistic background. The Samaritans did not exist until 530 years after Moses. By this mistake alone, the Qur’an can be rendered unreliable and certainly not an inerrant work of God.
Many lies told by muslims' allah proving he is not the true God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 11:07pm On Sep 13, 2014
Rilwayne001: Apa ti jabo ooo jesuuu grin grin grin





You err not knowing the scriptures undecided grin

Are you ready for explanation or not undecided

Pugnacious Scoffer
Tell me why allah contradicted himself on the fate of Christians about heaven.

Go on with your explanation with your source. See you tomorrow.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 10:47pm On Sep 13, 2014
Rilwayne001: Quran3:85 And whoever seeks a religion other than Islâm, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.



You wont be able to take the explanation. will youhuh
Every reasonable reader would have noticed that allah is not stable. He says Christians will have reward in heaven and again only islam is acceptable to him. How do you reconcile the two? Allah is very manipulative to deceive the muslims. What a pity?
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 9:58pm On Sep 13, 2014
Rilwayne001: Why do you believe Paul (the false apostle) if according to xtians Jesus completed his mission on earthhuh
What a diversion? What has your post got to do with my question? For your information, I have put the same question to muslims outside this forum and after sleepless nights, they came up with nothing.
Christianity EtcRe: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op): 6:34pm On Sep 13, 2014
teniyi: Just ask yourself a question sir. We were told in several places in the Bible that Jesus preached a gospel, did he hold any book (Bible) at that time?

This is what you need to understand well before you get confuse. Muslims believe what was revealed to the prophets that came earlier because the message preached by them centered around the Unity of their Lord and not issues like Cruci-fictio.
Jesus must have held a Book even according to allah:

He said: Surely I (Jesus) am a servant of allah: He has given me a Book and made me a prophet (Quran 19:30 Shakir).

I asked a question: What is the NEED for islam since Christianity before it is capable of taking mankind to heaven (Quran 2:62)? Every muslim has ever been avoiding that question.
Christianity EtcThe Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by truthman2012(op):
The muslims, when they want to invalidate the Bible to give credibility to the quran always say the Bible is corrupt referring to the words of prophet Jeremiah in 8:8. What Jeremiah meant was the corrupt way the scribes practiced the Law and not the Law itself. You can only corrupt the practice of the Law, it is impossible to corrupt it. The Law in the days of Jeremiah is still the same Law today. That same Law prophets after prophets were observing, God did not at any time change His Law.

For ever O LORD, they word is settled in heaven (Psalm 119:89).

God’s word is forever settled, not subject to a change by man.

Allah pretending to be God said:

Perfect is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught (nothing) that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower (Quran 6:115) Allah himself knows God's word cannot be changed.

Allah also says nothing is capable of changing his word. But unfortunately, muslims don't believe allah's word when it comes to arguments.

Of great interest is Allah’s statement in Quran 2:62:
Lo! those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews and Christians and Sabaeans – whoever believe in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right – surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

Since Christianity is capable of taking its adherents to heaven, what is the NEED for islam that came much later?
Christianity EtcRe: Muslims Solidarity: What Are Christians Doing? by truthman2012(m): 9:14pm On Sep 10, 2014
tijjanioyan: Muslims who do not have such admonitions either from allah or Muhammad take loving one another a serious matter, especially among the same sect................


Are u ok?if u hav nothin 2do why not enta ur church &start singing&dancing.dat is ur mode of worship
Prove him wrong from your book?
IslamRe: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by truthman2012(m): 6:19pm On Sep 10, 2014
malvisguy212: all the names you mention fought people that worship idol,but muhammad wage war on jews and christian. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW?
Good point.
IslamRe: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by truthman2012(m): 6:14pm On Sep 10, 2014
@OP

You typed the thread yourself but still failed to see it that Saul was commanded to fight their COUNTRY'S enemies, Amalekites after they had done wickedness.

It was a war between two nations and not by a religious group trying to convert people by force.

Allah himself said he does terrorise people who don't believe him (Quran 8:12). The god of islam is a terrorist.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Contradict Science By Dr Zakr Naik by truthman2012(m): 7:59pm On Sep 07, 2014
Abdulsalam20: WHAT A BIAS MIND I HAVE ALREADY EXPLAIN IT TO U grin ABOUT QURAN 51VS 49

Let us read the verse one more time:
"And of everything We have created pairs"
Immediately, we note that there is no mention in the verse of male and female, but of 'pairs' . Moreover, the word 'everything' clearly indicates that God is
speaking about everything in the universe and not just species of plants. So what is this universal arrangement by which everything is created in pairs?
Here we explore the science of Quantum Mechanics.
When we study Quantum Particle Properties, we find that for every elementary particle in the universes there is a special partner called its anti-particle
that has the same mass but the opposite electric charge. This is what is called Anti-Matter.
Basically, if a particle and its own anti-particle collide, they cancel one another out. They destroy one another and turn into a flash of pure energy which can
manifest itself as light.
For many years this theory remained a theoretical hypothesis, since no anti-matter was ever produced in a lab. However, very recently, a Swiss-based
scientist confirmed that anti-matter has been manufactured in tiny amounts!
The scientists at the European Particle Physics Laboratory (CERN), on the Franco-Swiss border, have now set up the world's first anti-matter factory. One of
them, Professor Frank Close, told the annual science festival in Wales:
"Nine atoms of anti-hydrogen were produced just over a year ago. Now, the new factory will produce them at a rate of more than 2,000 atoms per hour"
Close said.
When matter meets anti-matter, they annihilate each other in a flash. The scientific consensus is that, when the universe was created, matter and anti-
matter emerged equally from the Big Bang.
So once again we witness the Quran's amazing scientific content. The subject of 51:49 and which the scholars failed to interpret correctly, is in fact yet
another very accurate piece of knowledge. This verse as seen address's the theory of Quantum Particle Properties, and not the type of 'Reproduction
System' (male/female) of one species of plants or another.
Nonsense repeated
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Contradict Science By Dr Zakr Naik by truthman2012(m): 12:11pm On Sep 07, 2014
@OP

You copied utter nonsense from islamic site as your defence for quranic scientific absurdities.

I insist there is no miracle in islam and that was why Muhammad could not perform any. If Allah performs miracles, why didn't he use Muhammad to do any? Like their 'prophet' no muslim can pray in the name of allah for miracles to happen. What they do is Arabian charms, hontu and tira.

QURANIC SCIENCE ABSURDITIES:

Muslims can tell lies a lot. They can tell any lies reasonale and unreasonable to defend allah's errors. No wonder islam permits muslims to lie.

And of all things We created MATES, perhaps you will remember (Quran 51:49 Sahih International).
This is enough to tell you that 'PAIRS' is the same as 'MATES' and that means MALE and FEMALE.
Advanced Learner's Dictionary defines 'pair' as two things of the same kind used together i.e MATES. What is the pair of a goat? The answer is he-goat. Or what is your own answer? Your defence is not only irritating but also unreasonable.

He was created from a fluid (sperm), ejected, Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs (Quran 86:6-7).
Your defence is that testicles develop from the backbone and so backbone and testicles are the same. This is unreasonable because testicle is not the same as backbone. Once testicles have developed from the backbone, it is no more called backbone but testicles. Once a baby has developed from an embryo and born, is no more an embryo but a baby. Why did allah say backbone instead of testicles? If in an exam you are asked: where is sperm produced? What will be your answer? Backbone or testicle? I tell you the truth, allah is not a good scientist.

It is He Who prepare the earth for your life and created all that is in the world for you (in order to create you - the human species and make the earth suitable for your life); THEN He directed (His knowledge, Will, Power and Favour) to the HEAVEN AND FORMED IT into seven heavens....(Quran 2:29).
The word 'THEN' means AFTER. He created the world THEN (AFTER) He directed His Power to the heaven and formed it. It shows allah did not know the order of creation.

Indeed, allah (ALONE) has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the WOMBS.......(Quran 31:34).
This not true, medical science can easily determine baby's gender.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Contradict Science By Dr Zakr Naik by truthman2012(m): 5:17pm On Sep 06, 2014
Abdulsalam20: when we are talking of miracle it is different from scientific fact there are many miracles in the quran
1. THE PRESERVATION OF PHARAOH'S BODY
As we shall see later on, Pharaoh regarded himself as a deity and
responded with slanders and threats to Prophet Musa's (as) calls
for him to believe in Allah. This arrogant attitude lasted until he
was faced with the threat of death through drowning. The Qur'an
relates that Pharaoh immediately turned to belief when faced with
Allah's punishment:
We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his troops pursued
them out of tyranny and enmity. Then, when he was on the point of drowning, he
[Pharaoh] said: "I believe that there is no god but Him in Whom the tribe of Israel
believes. I am one of the Muslims." (Qur'an, 10:90)
However, this last-minute conversion was not accepted, for it was not sincere. According
to the Qur'an, Allah exclaimed:
"What, now! When previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupters? Today we will
preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you . Surely many people are
heedless of Our Signs." (Qur'an, 10:91-92)
The information that Pharaoh's corpse would serve as a sign for later generations may be regarded as
an indication that his body would not decay. On display in the Royal Mummies Chamber of the Egyptian
Museum in Cairo is a mummified body believed to be that of this tyrant. In all likelihood, Pharaoh's body
floated to shore after being drowned, was found and mummified by the Egyptians, and then carried to a
previously prepared burial chamber.182
SO U CAN SEE EVEN IN THE ASPECT OF MIRACLE ISLAM IS THERE
2. THE USE OF ELECTRICITY
And We made a fount of molten copper flow out for him. (Qur'an, 34:12)
One of Allah's great blessings to Prophet Sulayman (as) was
"a fount of molten copper." This can be understood in several
senses. By the use of melted copper, it may be referring to
the existence, at his time, of an advanced technology that
employed electricity. We know that copper is one of the best
metals for conducting electricity and heat, and thus
constitutes the basis of the electrical industry, which uses
much of the copper produced in the world. The expression "flow out" may indicate that electricity can be
used in many fields. (Allah knows best.)
3. PLANE TECHNOLOGY
And to Sulayman We gave the fiercely blowing wind, speeding at his command toward the land
that We had blessed. And We had full knowledge of everything. (Qur'an, 21:81)
As the above verse relates, Allah placed the wind under
Prophet Sulayman's (as) command and allowed him to use
it as a vehicle. There is a strong possibility of an indication
here that, as in Prophet Sulayman's (as) time, wind energy
will also be used in the technology of the future.
And We gave Sulayman power over the wind-a month's journey in the morning and a month in
the afternoon... (Qur'an, 34:12)
The expression " a month's journey in the morning and a month in the afternoon " may be drawing
attention to the fact that Prophet Sulayman (as) moved rapidly between different regions perhaps by
using a technology similar to an airplane, or developed wind-powered vehicles that could cover long
distances quickly. (Allah knows best.) There is thus a strong possibility that these verses point to
modern airplane technology.
EVEN THE STORY OF PHARAOH HAS BEEN MORE COMPREHENSIVE.....I LAUGH AT UR IGNORANCY ANYTIME I ASK A QUESTION U TRY TO DIVERT IT BUT AS A MATURITY I KNEW U CANT ANSWER IT AND I ALWAYS EXPECT U TOBRING MORE QUESTION BECAUSE ISLAM HAVE BEEN PERFECTED BY GOD U CAN COMMENT ON THE MIRACLE ABOVE IF IT IS A LIE INFACT I CAN SUPPLY MORE FOR U
Firstly, let me put it to you that there is no miracle in islam. Muhammad could not heal anybody, even ordinary headache. Where a man was sick of fever, he only recommended zamzam water for the cure. He confessed he could not perform any miracle: And they say: "Why are not miracles sent down to him from his Lord? Say: "The signs are only with Allah , and I am only a plain warner."Qur'an 29:50. Since Muhammad could not perform miracles, no muslim can because the servant is not greater than his master.

If you condemn the Bible for science, you should also condemn the quran for its scientific errors too.

Since Quran is claimed to be the word of all knowing perfect god, one expects it to be perfect and free of errors. Even one error in Quran is enough to prove it is not from any God.

Quran 86:6-7
He was created from a fluid, ejected,Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs, Sahih International )

Yusuf Ali He is created from a drop emitted-Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:
This is a clear error from Allah. Sperm is not produced from between the backbone and the ribs. Science says it is produced from testicules. Why would Allah not know that simple thing if he is the creator?

Quran 51:49 Sahih International
And of all things We created two mates; perhaps you will remember.

And all things We have created by pairs, that haply ye may reflect Pickthall .

Yusuf Ali And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.

And of everything We have created pairs that you may be mindful Shakir .
This is another error. Everything is not in pairs. Many bacteria, protists, fungi, and plants reproduce asexually.

Quran 2:29
It is He Who (prepared the earth for your life before He gave you life, and) created all that is in the world for you (in order to create you - the human species - and make the earth suitable for your life); then He directed (His Knowledge, Will, Power, and Favor) to the heaven and formed it into seven heavens. He has full knowledge of everything.
That is a colossal error. Totally wrong sequence, earth was created way after Heaven was created. It is so well known to everybody in 21st century that no proof is required.

Quran 31:34
Indeed, Allah [alone] has knowledge of the Hour and sends down the rain and knows what is in the wombs. And no soul perceives what it will earn tomorrow, and no soul perceives in what land it will die. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.
This is wrong. Quran was written for all the times. Allah is not the only one who knows what's inside the womb? In 21st century, medical science can easily determine baby's gender

Quran 6:101
[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.
Allah putting limits on himself?. We thought he could do anything. All he has to say "to be" and it should happen. Strange he could have Marry had a child without any companion, but for himself he needs a spouse. Muhammad while making it up did not realise what he was writing and putting limits to Allah's abilities.
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Contradict Science By Dr Zakr Naik by truthman2012(m): 12:50pm On Sep 06, 2014
@OP

Dr Zakr Naik and other muslims are carnal people who don't understand the words and workings of the True God. Scientists are working hard to study nature and things created by God. Some times when they are unable to discover some things or fail to solve some problems, they leave them at that. That shows science is inferior to God.

My little daughter fell from upstairs and got suspended in the air at the shout of Jesus by her mother and she was picked up. For people like you and Dr. Naik, that miracle contradicted science because of what the Law of Gravity says.

God parted the red sea for the Israelites to pass across and the same sea swallowed up the Egyptians, how do you want to explain that in science?

The thick wall of Jericho fell flat at the loud shout of the Istraelites 7 times without a push. How do you want to scientifically explain it?

Science and spiritual things do not, often times, go on the same line. The workings of God is superior to science and He can violate the law of science at will as the Almighty.

Unfortunately, muslims are limited to science and what is visible because they cannot experience the miraculous power of the True God. It is even difficult for them to believe one can eat poison (not intentionally) and survive it. Muhammad and his jihadists did not survive their own because they had no Jesus. I have ate poison unknowingly and all doctors around tried to no avail. I prayed in a night vigil and before dawn, I was healed instantly without any trace of the effect of the poison.

No matter your efforts to discredit Christianity, it cannot work because of what we experience daily in Christ. Jesus is alive.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Yahweh fail in his Promise To Abraham? by truthman2012(m): 12:11am On Sep 01, 2014
macof: Everyone says. The Jordanians, Lebanese and Palestinian for example are mostly of Amorite, Edomite, Philistine and Phoenician ancestry. If am nt mistaken The old Phoenicia is the same location as Lebanon
Everyone is entiled to his/her opinion, but as long as they could not provide proof their opinions do not matter.

Abraham had many sons and the probability is very high that they spread to those places after the original owners had been overthrown.
Christianity EtcRe: Did Yahweh fail in his Promise To Abraham? by truthman2012(m): 10:30pm On Aug 31, 2014
macof: Yahweh has failed in his promise
The promise Yahweh made to Abraham in
Genesis 15:18-21
Yahweh made a covenant with Abram,..I
will give thy seed this land from the rivers
of Egypt unto the Great river of
Euphrates, covering all the lands of the Canaanites"
This land covers from mt. Sinai in
Egypt to Syria
Pls what happened to Yahweh that he has
only succeeded in giving Hebrews less than
30% of the land he promised??
Why are Hebrews not owners of Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon, Syriahuh
Who says today's Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and Syria are not descendants of Abraham just as Saudi Arabia is? Tell us whose descendants they are.

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