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@ OP

Stop posting errors. All your Bible references are not referring to Muhammad.

The Qur’an mentions in Surah Al-Araf chapter 7 verse 157:

"Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures) in the law and the Gospel

Allah is deceitful, why did he not quote the exact places in the Bible where Muhammad is mentioned, as a result of which muslims gamble to find them?

Jesus Gospel is God’s Final Message to the World

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom [/b]shall be preached in all [b]the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

AS you can see for yourself, the Gospel of Jesus should be preached till the end will come. This gives no room for islam or any other religion to come.

tbaba1234: Is it not a sin to lie?? Is that what your religion preaches??

Bukhari 6:298
Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, "No child is born except on Al-Fitra (Islam) and then his parents make him Jewish, Christian or Magian, as an animal produces a perfect young animal: do you see any part of its body amputated?" Then he rec

'The religion of pure Islamic Faith (Hanifa),(i.e. to worship none but Allah), The pure Allah's Islamic nature with which He (Allah) has created mankind. Let There be no change in Allah's religion (i.e. to join none in Allah's worship). That is the straight religion; but most of men know not..." (30.30)

Bukhari was right in that hadith because it favours islam but if he said something not expected of a prophet about Muhammad, the same Bukhari is not authentic, abi?

Rilwayne001:

I observe you have kept dodging Gen. 17:19-21 and Quran 29:27. It shows you have seen the truth. Why do you choose to deceive yourself. Both verses say God could not have sent Muhammad because he was not from the lineage of God's covenant for prophethood. Since it was not God who sent Muhammad because He could not break His covenant, who sent him? Your guess is as good as mine.

First of all, it is important to know that if the "Bibles" of today, with all their versions and differences in the quantity of their "books" and "gospels", were in fact the Original Holy Word of GOD Almighty, then there would be no need for the Quran. [/b]But since they are corrupt, then we obviously can't consider them as GOD Almighty's Holy and Divine Words.

Quran is not a replacement of the Bible, they are not from the same God. Allah is not the God of the Jews and Christians.

''Fight against such of [b]those who have been given the Scripture as BELIEVE NOT IN Allah nor the Last Day.......(Quran 9:29).

This quranic verse shows that the Jews and Christians did not believe in Allah but Yahweh.

Again the Quran further says:

Say: O disbelievers (This is talking about "those who have been given the Scripture, i.e Jews and Christians who didn't believe Allah)

I worship not that which ye worship

Nor worship ye that which I worship

And I shall not worship that which ye worship
Quran 109:1-4

Allah clearly told Muhammad and muslims that what they worship is not the God of the Jews and Christians. Therefore quran cannot be a replacement of the Bible.

There existed many different Bibles during the time of the Roman Emperor, Constantine, which were widely believed in by different Christian sects in the year 312. In other words,during the first 3 centuries of "Christianity" (300 years), many different canons with 100s of books/gospels combined existed!

That is a lot of canons, a lot of books/gospels, and a lot of time (300 years) of different Christian religions existed. Also,Constantine's own "unified canon or bible" got lost and only small portions of it were found! So what we have today from "Bible(s)" are not even Constantine's books.

1- Constantine's unified "Bible" was permanently lost! Only portions of it were found almost 1/2 century later.

2- Hundreds of conflicting manuscripts existed among early Christians.

And do you know what happened in the council of nicean?

Okay, you want me to believe the portion of that of what paul wrote, when actually it is glaring that he is a lier?

All these are fallacies framed by the enemies of Christianity.

Matthew 21:45: "Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof.

You muslim guys misinterpret the bible to suit yourselves. Your quote is wrong. Mathew 21:45 does not say so. I want you to research properly and give the correct quote before I answer you.

Rilwayne001: I actually made a mistake by not answering you, i will go back to the post again.



There are portions of the bible that has been distorted



Can ypu please educate me on what jesus actually said here.
Matthew 21:45: "Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof."

Which portions of the bible were distorted?

Distorted by who?

Provide your proof.

You haven't said any about Gen. 17:19-21 and Quran 29:27 which confirm that no prophet was to come from Ismael lineage becos God had no COVENANT with him before asking your question. Do that first and I will answer you.

Rilwayne001: First of all, do you agree with all what i wrote in the OP



These are different topics

You can open a thread for discussion. Dont let us derail this particular one

You asked questions and when I answered, you said they are different topics.

My point is: if you believe the bible on what it says about Ismael, you should believe it on what it says about Jesus.

True, God blessed Ishmael because he was the seed of Abraham but had no covenant of prophethood with him. His covenant was with Isaac. Both the bible and quran confirm it (Gen. 17:19-21, Quran 29:27). God could not have sent a prophet through Ishmael seed, i.e Muhammad.

Rilwayne001: Was the prophecy fulfilled or not




Is jesus the only son of God in the bible?

Even in the OT people are call son of God..



How about the people of the Old ?

Do they get to meet jesus, Didnt they get to God by keeping the commadment.??

And who told you that i dont believe in jesus?

Since the prophecy was fulfilled, that shows the bible is authetic, not corrupt, yes or no?

If there were other sons of God, do believe Jesus is also Son?

Jesus went into the grave to preach to the people of old who did not make it to heaven. Those who made it had contact with Jesus.

Abdulsalam20: you are wrong this is the meaning
noun (plural abortions)

1. (medicine) The cessation of pregnancy or fetal development:

(medicine) a miscarriage.

2. (dated) The immature product of an untimely birth. 3. (biology) Arrest of development of any organ, so that it remains an imperfect formation or is absorbed. 4. Any fruit or produce that does not come to maturity, or anything which is interrupted in its progress before it is matured or perfect. 5. The act of aborting a project, a mission, etc, before it is completed. 6. chiefly arts Something ugly, an artistic atrocity;. 7. A monstrosity; a misshapen person.

synonyms ♦ misbirth

u can see miscarriage is there abortion may not be willful
2.look above'the immature product of an untimely birth u can see it may not be willful


AND ALSO READ THE POST FROM LINE TO LINE NOT JUST SKIMMING THROUGH READ EXTENSIVELY NOT INTENSIVELY

Thank you.

But the fact remains that a blow on a pregnant woman is an accident, not that bible authorizes abortion.

You believe the Bible, but only a part that favour you, the remaining is corrupt.

That Jesus is the Son of God is corrupt.

That Jesus is the only WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE and nobody can get to God but through him is corrupt.

That only the Gospel of Jesus shall be preached to all NATION till the end of the world is corrupt.

What is the definition of abortion? It is wilful removal of an unwanted pregnancy. But here it is said if it is aborted by blows. It means it is inadvertently removed by blows, therefore this cannot fall under abortion as the woman does not give her consent for the removal of the pregnancy.

hifaif: You know what, sweetie, there is nothing in the Qur'an that turns young men into violent monsters.

Just as there are verses in the Bible that pastors use to conveniently fleece their congregation and live extravagantly, so are there hadith that are used as propaganda tools by some Muslims and non-muslims to carry out acts of terrorism in the name of Allah.

Quran 8:12 turns old and young muslims into murderers. That is the verse of terrorism. It is only the muslims in the South West that are denying islam being violent, others pride themselves in it.

mazaje: ^^

Where was your condemnation when George Bush lied to the world and told the world that his god told him to invade and kill over half a million people?. . .

The killing was done by the American government and not a Christian group.