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golpen: ojo kan pelu sire!

as you have said, there's nothing wrong in copying any good information, what matters is the correctness. and that is where mr paste comes in!

when you copy good information sir, don't paste it just like that. there are some informations that would actually seem good to you, but would render you in a way after you must have pasted it to the world.

just like these, I can asure you that if you had taken your time to read throygh these stuffs you copied, you would have answered half yourself, a quarter with the help of your pickthall and then maybe the remaining quarter would have gotten here, which would have saved us some stress.

There are two things I like about you: your style of constructing statements and your retentive memory. You still remember I once told you I have a copy of pickthall. Good of you.

About copy and paste, I did painstakingly peruse the quranic contradictions, in fact, they are far more than that number. I only pasted the ones I can dare anybody to try to defend.

But wait a minute, the quran says there is not a single discrepancy, but here you are admitting a quarter of whatever number of the contradictions. What is your take on this?

Abdulsalam20: TRUTHMAN WHERE U DEY U DON RUN COMMOT I ANSWERE ALL UR QUESTION U NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTION THIS MEANS CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A RELIGION.......................................................REPLY ALL THE QUESTION I'VE ASKED TO DEFEND UR BOOK FROM D CONTRADICTIONS INTERERST PAYMENT POLYGAMY TERROR IN THE BIBLE MUHAMMAD IN THE QURAN.................I KNOW U WONT REPLY U AVE BURY UR HEAD IN SHAME U ASKED FOR PROPHETS IN THE QURAN AND I GAVE U.......U NEVER BELIEVE IT......... I FORGET TO ADD DIS U SAID JESUS WILL GO TO HELL OYA ANSWER AM U DEMONIC ANTI ISLAM SORRY I ALSO ASK THIS JESUS PRAY(SOLAT) AND HAJJ ZAKAT ALSO............... ABI U GO OPEN NEW THREAD FOR IT...........IT JUST PAIN ME DAT MOD NO PUT AM FOR FP

Firstly, I didn't see where you addressed your questions to me.

Secondly, your English is not clear.

Thirdly, your posts are too lengthy.

Fourthly, you have derailed or deviated from the subject of your thread. You have to learn to restrict yourself to your topic and not muddle up things.

Abdulsalam20: WITH ALL THE CLEAR PROOF I GAVE TO U IF QRAN IS WRITTEN BY MAN HOW DID IT CORRESPOND WITH MODERN SCIENCE WHEN THOSE DAYS PEOPPLE ARE LIVING IN A WORLD ABSENCE OF TECHNOLOGY THINK ABOUT THE STORY OF PHARAOH ALLAH SAID HE WONT DECAY SCIENTIST DISAGREE BUT LATER THEY FOUND HIM INTHE RED SEA U CAN NOT SEE A CONTRADICTION IN D QURAN BECAUSE IT IS INSPIRED BY ALLAH U CANT COMPARED IT WITH BIBLE THAT CONTRADICT MODERN SCCIENCE AND EVEN CONTRADICT ITSELF THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN BY MAN AND NO MAN IS PERFECT WE CAN ONLY BE EXPERT AND NOT PERFECT THIIIIIIIINK IF U NEED THE VERSES WHERE BIBLE CONTRADICT SCIENCE ASK I WILL RELEASE IT WITH UR PERMISSION .......NAWAO U PEOLE MADE MISTAKE BY SAYING JESUS WILL GO TO HELL SUBHANALLAH JESUS PRAY(SOLAT) U PEOPPLE REFUSE HE SAID HE CAN DO NOTHING U SAID HE IS GOD HE SAID D LORD OUR LORD IS ONE LORD U SAID IT IS THREE THINNNNNNNK

If you too need where the quran contradicts modern science, I will paste it for you.

true2god: The west seem to have unlocked the secret of global security: KEEP THE ARAB-MUSLIMS ENGAGED IN INTERNAL WARS.

Ever since the states of Iran, Iraq, sudan, somalia, yemen, afghanistan, libya, etc are in the state of internal strife, the tendency for global terrorism had reduced drastically cos they hav to spend more time fighting themselves (no time to plan terrorist attacks on foreign countries).

It quite funny that muslims with spend time listing all the wars fought in the OT in order to prove a point. Israel had been a nation of war from time immemorial because they are surrounded by enemies (from the time of the babylonians, the assyrians and now the modern day mohammedans), they are always in conflict. Isreal was fighting, at that time, as a nation and judaism as a religion.

Modern Jews are peaceful compare to modern muslims\arabs, that is not to say the Jews are not aggressive to an extent. The Jews are fighting an existential war in the 20th and 21st century. First against hitler Germany(Hitler said and I quote, 'this Jews are sub-human parasites that must be destroyed') and now against arab-Islam (Ahmadinajab of Iran said and I qoute, 'Israel will\must be wiped out from the face of the earth').

Christianity came after Jesus christ. Nowhere in the bible or secular history was Jesus engaged in a war, commanded a war, loot caravans, kill people who opposed him, took and trade slaves, married an under-age girl, etc. But mohammed committed all these atrocities and a perfect examples to muslims. Even after his death, another round of war started on who will lead Islam which created the current sunni and shia crisis.

There had never been anytime in history that Islam was peaceful.

You said and I quote ''Israel was fighting at that time as a NATION and JUDAISM as a religion''. In other words, they were not a religious group fighting other religions.

Bro., I love your expositions. God bless you.

tintingz: They are Christian terrorist fighting crusade no excuse for that as you all believe all Muslims are terrorists.

And why including Judaism beliefs in the bible?

Are you saying God in OT is different from God in NT?

Lo! You are unable to say and mention where there are Christian terrorists as at now. You were referring to people who acted in ignorance and are doing it no more. If muslims have repented the same way, there will be no more terrorism in the world again.

You cannot understand the difference between OT and NT and their relationship because you are not a citizen of the Kingdom. The truth remains Judaism is not the same as Christianity.

Hi golpen. E ku ojo meta.

You guys amuse me a lot o!

What does it matter to copy good information and paste? What matters is the correctness of the information.

Do you want to tell me the thread itself was not copied from islamic sites? Prove.

tintingz: do you agree that there are christian terrorists or not.

There are many verses in the bible where Jehovah call for war.

There WERE supposed Christian terrorists who ARE no more because there is NO terrorism inpiration from their Lord. They must have acted in ignorance and they do it no more.

Judaism in the OT is not the same as Christianity in the NT.

BetaThings: Prove me wrong!

Is banning not the acceptable practice all over Nairaland and with very forum worldwide?
Muslims will continue to delete insults to our reverred figurs
We know that you threaten those "who touch your anointed" by abusing them with pestilence and other dire spiritual consequences

Please is there any section that does not ban?
But did anyone say because they ban that warning should be put up
We are old enough and we are educated enough - contrary to your declarations - to ask for the warning if we wanted it
Admit it - the warning was engineered by non-muslims to embarrass muslims and hang an unsavoury medal on the necks of muslims

I have no much time for argument now.

You seem to have owned up on your section not tolerant as you are mute abt it.

21. Are there heaven and hell only?

Yes

Verily Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow; while those who reject Allah will enjoy (this world) and eat as cattle eat; and the Fire will be their abode.
Qur'an 47:12

No, purgatory too

Between them is a veil. And on the Heights are men who know them all by their marks. And they call unto the dwellers of the Garden: Peace be unto you! They enter it not although they hope (to enter).
Qur'an 7:46

22. Does Allah forgive worshipping other gods/shirk?[/b]

No

Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right).
Qur'an 4:116

Yes

The people of the Book ask thee to cause a book to descend to them from heaven: Indeed they asked Moses for an even greater (miracle), for they said: "Show us Allah in public," but they were dazed for their presumption, with thunder and lightning. Yet they worshipped the calf even after clear signs had come to them; even so we forgave them; and gave Moses manifest proofs of authority
Qur'an 4:153

The people did not repent and the Quran did not say they did before they were forgiven. The Bible says they were plagued and not forgiven:
And the Lord plagued the people because they made the calf, which Aaron made (Exodus 32:35).

Therefore Allah forgives not the sin of idolatry but he forgave some people.

[b]23. Does Allah lead people astray?

No

And Allah will not mislead a people after He hath guided them, in order that He may make clear to them what to fear (and avoid)- for Allah hath knowledge of all things.
Qur'an 9:115

Yes

Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."
Qur'an 6:25

24. Can messengers perform miracles?

No

And they say: "Why are not miracles sent down to him from his Lord? Say: "The signs are only with Allah , and I am only a plain warner."
Qur'an 29:50

Miracles belong to only Allah and so a messenger cannot perform miracles.

Yes

We have made some of these apostles to excel the others; among them are they to whom Allah spoke, and some of them He exalted by (many degrees of) rank; and We gave clear miracles to Isa son of Marium, and strengthened him with the holy spirit.
Qur'an 2:253

And Jesus performed miracles as a messenger.

25. How many cardinal points does Allah have?

Single

To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing.
Qur'an 2:115

Double

Lord of the two Easts, and Lord of the two Wests!
Qur'an 55:17

Many

Now I do call to witness the Lord of all points in the East and the West that We can certainly- Qur'an 70:40

26. Width of garden; 1 heaven or plural heavens?

More than one heaven (plural, samawaat)

a Garden whose width is that (of the whole) of the heavens and the earth, prepared for the righteous
Qur'an 3:133

Only one heaven (singular, sama)

a Garden (of Bliss), the width whereof is as the width of the heaven and the earth, prepared for those who believe in Allah
Qur'an 57:21

27. Are all human races considered equal?

No
Allah did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,
Qur'an 3:33

No

Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and that I preferred you to all other (for My Message).
Qur'an 2:47

Yes

O people, we created you from the same male and female, and rendered you distinct peoples and tribes, that you may recognize one another. The best among you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous. Allah is Omniscient, Cognizant.
Qur'an 49:13

Everybody is equal but the best is the most righteous, not necessarily Adam, Noah, Abraham or children of Israel as earlier said by Allah.

28. Can you eat non-halal meat?

Yes

This day are (all) things good and pure made lawful unto you. The food of the People of the Book is lawful unto you and yours is lawful unto them. (Lawful unto you in marriage) are (not only) chaste women who are believers, but chaste women among the People of the Book, revealed before your time,- when ye give them their due dowers, and desire chastity, not lewdness, nor secret intrigues if any one rejects faith, fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).
Qur'an 5:5

No

So eat of (meats) on which Allah's name hath been pronounced, if ye have faith in His signs.
Qur'an 6:118

29. What does Allah do with apostates?

Punishes them

But if any turn away and reject Allah,- Allah will punish him with a mighty Punishment,
Qur'an 88:23-24

Does not care

There was indeed in them an excellent example for you to follow,- for those whose hope is in Allah and in the Last Day. But if any turn away, truly Allah is Free of all Wants, Worthy of all Praise. Qur'an 60:6

30. Should Muslims have Christians for friends?

Yes

Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
Qur'an 5:82

Yes

We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and we ordained in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy Qur'an 57:27

No

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
Qur'an 5:51

31. What happens to mountains on Qiyamah?

Become like wool

And the mountains will be like wool
Qur'an 70:9

They will disappear

And the mountains shall vanish, as if they were a mirage. Qur'an 78:20

32. Who does Allah send as prophets?

Only Men

Nor did We send before thee (as messengers) any but MEN, whom we did inspire,- (men) living in human habitations. Do they not travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those before them? But the home of the hereafter is best, for those who do right. Will ye not then understand? Qur'an 12:109

“……Any but men” means only men were sent as messengers.

Also angels

Allah chooses messengers from ANGELS and from men for Allah is He Who hears and sees (all things).
Qur'an 22:75

33. When do people come back to life?

On the appointed Hour (Day of Judgement)

And verily the Hour will come: there can be no doubt about it, or about (the fact) that Allah will raise up all who are in the graves.
Qur'an 22:7

Immediately after their death

Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead. Nay, they are living. With their Lord they have provision.
Qur'an 3:169

34. Will Muhammad go to Heaven?

Yes, he will be forgiven of all sins

We have given thee (O Muhammad) a clear victory. That Allah may forgive thee of thy sin that which is past and that which is to come. Qur'an 48:1-2

He is not sure

Say: "I am no bringer of new-fangled doctrine among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you.
Qur'an 46:9

35. How did Abraham confront the idolaters?

Destroys idols

So he broke them to pieces, (all) but the biggest of them, that they might turn (and address themselves) to it.
Qur'an 21:58

Does nothing and goes away

When he had turned away from them and from those whom they worshipped besides Allah, We bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and each one of them We made a prophet
Qur'an 19:49

36. Are all messengers descended from Isaac?

Yes

and We established the prophethood and the Scripture among his seed.
Qur'an 29:27

No
And verily We have raised among every people a messenger, (proclaiming): Serve Allah and shun false gods. Qur'an 16:36

37. Was Noah banished or exiled by his people?

Yes

Before them the People of Noah rejected (their messenger): they rejected Our servant, and said, "Here is one possessed!", and he was driven out.
Qur'an 54:9

No, he regularly spoke to them

Forthwith he (starts) constructing the Ark: EVERY TIME that the chiefs of his people passed by him, they threw ridicule on him. He said: "If ye ridicule us now, we (in our turn) can look down on you with ridicule likewise!
Qur'an 6:101

38. When do people come back to life?

On the appointed Hour (Day of Judgement)

And verily the Hour will come: there can be no doubt about it, or about (the fact) that Allah will raise up all who are in the graves.
Qur'an 22:7

Immediately after their death

Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead. Nay, they are living.With their Lord they have provision.
Qur'an 3:169

39. Is polygamy okay?

Yes

And if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.
Qur'an 4:3

No

Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so). But turn not altogether away (from one), leaving her as in suspense. If ye do good and keep from evil, lo! Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.
Qur'an 4:129

Allah sounded sure they would not be able to deal equally with more than one wife, however much they wish to do so, therefore they should stay with one. But he had earlier said “ if they would be able to deal equally (justly) with 2, 3 or 4 wives”, they could marry them, contradicting himself.

@ OP

If you condemn the Bible for your alleged contradiction, which is due to your lack of proper understanding of the Book, what do you say to the Quran, which your Allah says there is no single contradiction:

1. Does evil come from Allah?

Yes

.... If some good befalls them, they say "This is from Allah". But if evil, they say "This is from thee" (O prophet). Say: "All things are from Allah....
Qur'an 4:78

Allah claimed responsibility for all things, both good and evil that befall man. “All things are from Allah” mean EVERYTHING and ANYTHING is from Him, both good and evil.

No

Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from Allah. But whatever evil happens to thee, is from thyself. But what has come to these people. That they fail to understand a single fact
Qur'an 4:79

Allah denied being responsible for evil and claimed responsibility for good only. No more all things or everything and anything.

2. How many trumpets will be blown on Qiyamah?

Two

On the day when the first Trumpet resoundeth
And the second followeth it,
Qur'an 79:6-7

One only

And when the trumpet shall sound one blast, Qur'an 69:13

3. For whom is salvation?

For all pious theists

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Qur'an 5:69

For all pious theists

Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Qur'an 2:62

For Muslims only

If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).
Qur'an 3:85

For Muslims only

Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account..
Qur'an 3:19

4. Where do disbelievers receive their record book on Judgment day?

Behind their back

But he who is given his Record behind his back
Qur'an 84:10

On the left hand

And he that will be given his Record in his left hand, will say: "Ah! Would that my Record had not been given to me!
Qur'an 69:25

5. Can you marry non-Muslims?

No

Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.
Qur'an 2:221

Yes (even though Qur'an 9;29 calls Christians idolaters)

This day are (all) good things made lawful for you. The food of those who have received the Scripture is lawful for you, and your food is lawful for them. And so are the virtuous women of the believers and the virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before you (lawful for you) when ye give them their marriage portions and live with them in honour, not in fornication, nor taking them as secret concubines. Whoso denieth the faith, his work is vain and he will be among the losers in the Hereafter.
Qur'an 5:5

The virtuous women of those who received the Scripture before were Jews and Christians, which by Islamic belief were unbelievers and idolaters. Calling them “ women of those who received the Scripture before you” shows they were yet to believe in islam. Muslims were permitted to marry them even though they were yet to believe contradicting the above warning not to do so.

6. Will Allah reward the good deeds of non-Muslims?

No

It is not for such as join gods with Allah, to visit or maintain the mosques of Allah while they witness against their own souls to infidelity. The works of such bear no fruit: In Fire shall they dwell.
Qur'an 9:17

Yes

And whoso doeth good an atom's weight will see it then
Qur'an 99:7

Yes, for all pious theists

Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee Muhammad) and those who are Jews and Christians and Sabaens – whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right – surely their reward is with their Lord and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.
Qur’an 2:62

Yes, for all pious theists

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Qur'an 5:69

7. To whom was the revelation sent?

Arabs

Had We sent this as a Qur'an (in the language) other than Arabic, they would have said: "Why are not its verses explained in detail? What! (a Book) not in Arabic and (a Messenger an Arab?" Qur'an 41:44

All mankind

O mankind! Now hath a proof from your Lord come unto you, and We have sent down unto you a clear light; Qur'an 4:174

Illiterate people

He it is Who hath sent among the unlettered ones a messenger of their own, to recite unto them His revelations and to make them grow, and to teach them the Scripture and Wisdom enough herefore they were indeed in error manifest Qur'an 62:2.

8. Was Iblis an Angel or a Jinn?

Jinn

Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam": They bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers!
Qur'an 18:50

“We said to the angels, bow down to Adam, they bowed down except Iblis means he (Iblis) was one of the angels. Allah’s command was to the Angels, what was Iblis (if a Jinn) doing among them? According to islam, Angels and Jinns are not the same and not living or staying together. Whose mistake is this? Allah’s or Muhammad’s?

Angel

And behold, We said to the angels: "Bow down to Adam" and they bowed down. Not so Iblis: he refused and was haughty: He was of those who reject Faith.
Qur'an 2:34

Iblis is expected to be an angel because Allah’s command was to the angels and Iblis was one of them.

9. Do Muslims and non-Muslim theists worship the same god?

No

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Qur'an 109:3

Yes

And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."
Qur'an 29:46

10. Does Man have free will?

No

No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.
Qur'an 10:100

Yes

Unto whomsoever of you will to walk straight.
Qur'an 81:28

Whosoever of you will to walk straight were those who willed to accept Islam with their own will and not by the will of Allah.

11. Who sends disbelievers astray?

Allah

Of them there are some who (pretend to) listen to thee; but We have thrown veils on their hearts, So they understand it not, and deafness in their ears; if they saw every one of the signs, not they will believe in them; in so much that when they come to thee, they (but) dispute with thee; the Unbelievers say: "These are nothing but tales of the ancients."
Qur'an 6:25

Allah

Allah leaves stray whom He wills and guides whom He wills
Qur'an 35:8

Allah

No soul can believe except by the will of Allah
Qur'an 10:100

Satan

(Iblis) said: "O my Lord! because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong
Qur'an 15:39

Satan

Who whispereth in the hearts of mankind
Qur'an 114:5

Satan

I will mislead them, and I will create in them false desires....
Qur'an 4:119

Themselves

Hath not the story reached them of those before them?- the People of Noah, and 'Ad, and Thamud; the People of Abraham, the men of Midian, and the cities overthrown. To them came their messengers with clear signs. It is not Allah Who wrongs them, but they wrong their own souls. Qur'an 9:70

Themselves

It was not Allah who wronged them, but they wronged their own souls
Qur'an 30:9

Themselves

It is they who have lost their own souls, that they will not believe. Qur'an 6:12

12. Is it possible to have a son without a consort

Yes

She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us':It is a matter (so) decreed."
Qur'an 19:20-21. Mary had a son without a consort.

No

To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
Qur'an 6:101

How can He have a son when He hath no consort? Mary had a son without a consort. This question contradicts Mary having a son without a consort and Allah is expected to know that it is possible to have a son without a consort.

13. Will non-Muslims go to hell forever?

Not necessarily

One day will He gather them all together, (and say): "O ye assembly of Jinns! Much (toll) did ye take of men." Their friends amongst men will say: "Our Lord! we made profit from each other: but (alas!) we reached our term - which thou didst appoint for us." He will say: "The Fire be your dwelling-place: you will dwell therein for ever, EXCEPT as Allah willeth." for thy Lord is full of wisdom and knowledge.
Qur'an 6:128

Not necessarily

Those who are wretched shall be in the Fire: There will be for them therein (nothing but) the heaving of sighs and sobs: They will dwell therein for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, EXCEPT as thy Lord willeth: for thy Lord is the (sure) accomplisher of what He planneth. And those who are blessed shall be in the Garden: They will dwell therein so long for all the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth: a gift without break
Qur'an 11:106-107

Yes

And those who followed shall say: Had there been for us a return, then we would renounce them as they have renounced us. Thus will Allah show them their deeds to be intense regret to them, and they shall not come forth from the fire Qur'an 2:167

Yes

Such is the requital of the enemies of Allah,- the Fire: therein will be for them the Eternal Home: a (fit) requital, for that they were wont to reject Our Signs
Qur'an 41:28

14. Are all Islamic prophets equal?

Yes

The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His messengers. We make no distinction between any of His messengers. And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."
Qur'an 2:285

No

Those messengers We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan. Qur'an 2:253

Allah made no distinction between any of his messengers, yet he endowed some with gifts and some above others. How else would He have made distinction?

Again, who was the speaker here?………….. We make no distinction between any of His messengers (Qu’ran 2:285).

If it was Allah, it should have been: “We make no distinction between any of Our messengers”. The statement sounds like Muhammad’s, yet muslims claim the Qu’ran contains only Allah’s words.

15. How to treat those who do not believe in an afterlife

Be kind

Tell those who believe, to forgive those who do not look forward to the Days of Allah: It is for Him to recompense (for good or ill) each People according to what they have earned.
Qur'an 45:14

Be kind

The worshipers of the Most Gracious are those who tread the earth gently, and when the ignorant speak to them, they only utter peace
Qur'an 25:63

Attack them

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Qur'an 9:29

16. Does everyone bear his own burden?

Yes

Say: "Shall I seek for (my) Cherisher other than Allah, when He is the Cherisher of all things (that exist)? Every soul draws the meed of its acts on none but itself: no bearer of burdens can bear of burdens can bear the burden of another. Your goal in the end is towards Allah: He will tell you the truth of the things wherein ye disputed."
Qur'an 6:164

Yes

And no bearer of burdens shall bear another's burden, and if one heavily laden calls another to (bear) his load, nothing of it will be lifted even though he be near of kin. You (O Muhammad SAW) can warn only those who fear their Lord unseen, and perform As-Salat (IqamatasSalat). And he who purifies himself (from all kinds of sins), then he purifies only for the benefit of his ownself. And to Allah is the (final) Return (of all).
Qur'an 35:18

No

Let them bear, on the Day of Judgment, their own burdens in full) and with (something} of the burdens of those without knowledge, whom they misled. Alas, how grievous the burdens they will bear!
Qur'an 16:25,

17. Christians and Jews hate or love each other?

Hate each other

The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief.
Qur'an 5:64

Love each other

O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
Qur'an 5:51

18. Was Jonah cast on the shore?

Yes

Then We cast him on a desert shore while he was sick . Qur'an 37:145

No

Had not Grace from his Lord reached him, he would indeed have been cast off on the Unclad shore while he was reprobate
Qur'an 68:49

19. Clarity of the Qur'an?

Qur'an is clear to understand

And We know well that they say: Only a man teacheth him. The speech of whom they falsely hint is outlandish, and this is clear Arabic speech. Quran 16:103

Clear Arabic language

Had We sent this as a Qur'an (in the language) other than Arabic, they would have said: "Why are not its verses explained in detail? What! (a Book) not in Arabic and (a Messenger an Arab?" Qur'an 41:44

Qur’an is made plain

(This is) a[b] Book,[/b] whose verses are made decisive, then are they made plain, from the Wise, All-aware:
Qur'an 11:1

Was the quran revealed to Muhammad as a Book? Which Book was Allah referring to?


Not clear

He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.
Qur'an 3:7

Nobody's sure what the following verse means

Alif. Lam. Mim.
Qur'an 2:1

20. What to do with infidel family?

Stay with family

And if they contend with you that you should associate with Me what you have no knowledge of, do not obey them, and keep company with them in this world kindly, and follow the way of him who turns to Me, then to Me is your return, then will I inform you of what you did
Qur'an 31:15

Don’t stay with family

O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers. Qur'an 9:23

BetaThings: So tell us what your impracticable religion has done for the country
You keep posturing - "we are tolerant, we forgive, thou shall not judge,"
Tell me where you have demonstrated these traits in practice?

Islam has given excellent examples of tolerance, forbearance etc
That is what you guys need to learn and embrace
But we don't blow our trumpets until we need to set records right

I recall that you Christians are always tiring blackmail, intrigue etc
You guys, from the abundance of your armoury of mischief, plotted and convinced the owner of this site to put up a warning that
"people should not post anything offensive to Islam"
Muslims said they did not want the warning; you guys kept insisting that it was necessary
As soon as that was put up, you guys went round telling people who did not know the story that Muslims are intolerant etc
Your experiment has turned out to be another in the series of your selfish and wicked plots

Now the truth is out - we are not violent
In your post above, you pleaded that you should not be banned = and that is all the punishment that we can dispense

Muslims don't open threads to lambast Christians, we just want to be left alone
But that does not fit with the impression you want to convey

So much for tolerance, forgiveness etc - using such words for Christianity in Nigeria is malapropism

Did I hear you say muslims are tolerant? Good of you.

Muslims want the 'warning' removed yet every post that is not in support of islam is deleted and the poster banned. Good of you.

What is the reason for mac's ''Operation Movin Train''?

It is only in this section we see many empty spaces in a thread indicating removed posts.

All these show you guys are tolerant indeed. But why do you muslims say something and do another? Na wa o!

tintingz: christian terrorists.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

May I ask you: what was the reason the so-called christian militant were formed?

Nowhere in the NT, where Christianity began, did the bible command any Christian to fight or war. So if anybody became militant, he is on his own. No such inspiration from Jesus. Because such inspiration is not from Jesus, it is not common to see Christians fighting. As at today, tell me where Christian bodies are at war with other religious sects.

But here is Allah commanding muslims to be at war with people they call disbelievers. Almost in every country of the world, islamic terrorists abound. They draw their inspiration from the quran. They recite the quran on their victims before slaughtering them. How do you say they are not muslims? We have many references where Muhammad himself beheaded people or commanded his jihadists to behead. Was Muhammad not a muslim too? Many cases he was killing not for defensive reason as muslims would have us believe. Muslims say something but do a different thing. The true God does not have hypocrites or deceivers as His followers.

Rilwayne001: Notice here that Jibril was the one reporting to his LORD here

notice that verse was talking about "The messenger (Prophet Muhammad) and the believers "

Notice the SAYING and AND THEY SAY







Seems you dont even know what you are saying again



Cant you read at all....SMH

Characteristic of you, nobody ever answers your questions and yet you keep mute over questions raised by others because you have no answers.

Rilwayne001: Now put your 'HE' in that verse and lets see how it would make any sense

Gabriel was delivering Allah's message to Muhammad in the 'third person singular' and as a reported speech by the words 'HIS MESSENGERS'. Then it should have been: HE makes no distinction between any of HIS messengers.

If a direct speech from Allah, it should have read ''WE make no distinction between any of OUR messengers.

By sticking to only this, you have accepted the other errors Emusan has highlighted.

bbello28: WatS all dz abt They just keep givin ppl bad impression abt iSlam

Is an impression or what people see actually happening?

Rilwayne001: And one of your minion on this thread was praising you as an intelligent person..SMH,

Excuse me sir, you are ignorant.



Please apply the 'HE' yourself to that verse you quote, and lets see how it makes sense..

Please do that now to prove to us you are not ignorant..

How else do I do it again? Didn't you see the HE and HIS bolded?

NOTE: Am not on NL to be rated good or bad, everybody is entitled to his/her opinion.

Of all the posts I addressed to you here, I am surprised you could reply only this. Am sure you have got your laptop.

true2god: The arabs have no viable economy, their economy is run only by oil revenue paid for, mostly by the west. The arabs, except their powerful elites, remain one of the least educated and poorest pple on earth, only a bit above the sub-sahara africa.

The arab\muslims export to the world is only mosques and terrorism, nothing more. The west, initially, didnt see the threat of arab\muslims migrations to their countries and the effect it will have on their culture, but now, most of their govt are more informed of the dangers of Islam to modern civilization, hence the setting-up of 'trojan horse' in the UK and europe and china to check-mate the negetive influnce of Islam on their pple. The Japanese gives no room for Islam at all.

Their excesses are being check-mated, as long as darkness cannot rule over light, Islam cannot rule the world. The western powers have already kept them busy in their home countries by encouraging them to keep fighting themselves so that they wont have time fighting the progressive and civilized world.

Thank you brother, it is a great relief.

You believe Jesus existed. So to you it means ''you believe Jesus''. You deserve to be pitied.

You believe the stories you've read about the Apostles but you don't believe in them. Can you hear yourself? Your certificate, if you have any, should be verified. Check your dictionary: 'believe in' means to trust somebody's words. So you trust their stories but you don't believe them.

Comparing your poor and watery construction of words with your main thread, it will be easy for a primary school leaver to know it is not your work. No wonder you cannot defend it.

.....Unfollow thread.

true2god: Thank God they dont have the military might to threaten the world. The era of Jihadist invasion, the golden era of of Islamic conquest, imperalism and expansion, is long gone. They can only confirm their jihadism in their countries. Any attempt by any of the jihadist to declare a holy war against any non-muslims country, like Israel or europe, they will be seriosly flogged and beaten.

So they have to sing, 'ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE' so that no one will suspect their inate aggressive tendencies.

Thank you my brother. God bless you.

It is true they don't have the military might to threaten the world, but am afraid of something: you know satan is a strategist. If he uses one strategy and fails, he will apply another. When he came to Eve he did not appear as an enemy. The Bible says he was subtle. The devil has attacked almost all the countries' economy and spared, to an extent, the Arabs. They are now trying to enter into many countries with their islamic banking to attract them to islam. Before you know it, they will institute islam. Were it not for a Christian as Nigeria's president, Nigeria would have been into it. But for how long will Christian rule Nigeria? God help us o!