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macof: See why I call u illiterate
basic knowledge you don't have

Olodumare is the creator force, as Chukwu is this same force known to ancient Igbo
You say you have people in ur family worshiping Sango.
You don't know Sango
You don't know Olodumare
You don't even know Yoruba words
You are not a Yoruba but a slave to the Jews
Complete Jewish slave that's wat u are

Shame! Your God now has a name after you have said he has none. Is Olodumare not a name? Shame on you. You still have the gut to twist your statement instead of covering your face in shame.

Do you know the meaning of 'illiterate?' It means somebody who cannot read and write. To call me, who have been communicating in reading and writing with you shows your brain is no more in order. Your god is manipulating it. Your father was probably my junior in school. Smh!!!

macof: See why I call u illiterate
basic knowledge you don't have

Olodumare is the creator force, as Chukwu is this same force known to ancient Igbo
You say you have people in ur family worshiping Sango.
You don't know Sango
You don't know Olodumare
You don't even know Yoruba words
You are not a Yoruba but a slave to the Jews
Complete Jewish slave that's wat u are

Shame! Your God now has a name after you have said he has none. Is Olodumare not a name? Shame on you. You still have the gut to twist your statement instead of covering your face in shame.

Do you know the meaning of 'illiterate?' It means somebody who cannot read and write. To call me, who have been communicating in reading and writing with you shows your brain is no more in order. Your god is manipulating it. Your father is probably my junior in school. Smh!

@Rilwayne001

Nobody has ever answered your questions in any thread or post.

About any muslim cleric condemning terrorism, it is all hypocrisy. Most of them are the brain behind it.

In Nigeria, the sponsors of boko haram do condemn their activities openly. Infact they bombed the empty car of one of the sponsors to create the impression that he is also a victim. That is islamic hypocrisy for you.

PAGAN9JA: You are a big nincompoop. None of the Gods have a name. They are not humans in the first place!

It is us humans who give everything, including Gods, their names. Olodumare is the Yoruba name for the Creator God.


WHat proof do I need? Go ask any Yoruba, what do they call the Creator God. such has been from time immemorial.


Are you a Troll?

''None of the Gods has a name'' coming from you again after you have said the name of God of Creation is Olodumare? You need deliverance from satanic manipulation because your brain seems to have been tampared with by your gods.

So if you are asked what is the name of your God, what will your answer be?

Why do you get angry when Ogun, Sango, Oya etc are insulted as they are not the names of any god? Why are their worshipers called them by names to identify them if they have no name?

beejaay: GUY U ARE A FO.OL.. MUM.U LIKE U where does light comes from answer me..to understand light u must embrace darkness, behind ever light there is a darkness and that is why people like you fear darkness so much because u cant comprehend the relationships between light and darkness, right and wrong (wrong desires sometimes lead to right action and right desires sometimes lead to wrong action)

why is it that you people dont think before u type

@op thanks for the wonderful write-up..pls can i share it?

Prove your claim on light and darkness with evidence(s). Where the true God lives there is no darkness (Rev. 22:5). No day no night, it is eternal.

beejaay: GUY U ARE A FO.OL.. MUM.U LIKE U where does light comes from answer me..to understand light u must embrace darkness, behind ever light there is a darkness and that is why people like you fear darkness so much because u cant comprehend the relationships between light and darkness, right and wrong (wrong desires sometimes lead to right action and right desires sometimes lead to wrong action)

why is it that you people dont think before u type

@op thanks for the wonderful write-up..pls can i share it?

All of you are seriously hurt. I know the devil will be mad at me. As we proceed, all of devil's manipulations are being exposed. All that is left with you guys is abuses, which is not an effective weapon.

PAGAN9JA: Are you st.upid?

You should know by now that Olodumare is the God of Creation.

You guy once said he has no name and now it is Olodumare. Your case is pathetic. O mase o!

Besides, you have no proof to support your claim. Smh!

macof: The God of creation has no name. Humans assign whatever names they feel befitting
Gods are named by Men...that is why the force of balance is called Esu in Yoruba, but Ekwensu in Igbo

Common sense is a gift from the Gods, a gift that enables us understand the universe around us.
If you can't use this gift then you can't understand a thing about "Spiritual"

Your type is religious not spiritual.

You are basically feeding of wat people tell u

spirituality is having ur own knowledge through search and experience
Where religion of ur kind is taking words of men down without questioning

Esu is a name. Sango, Ogun, Oya, Osun, Obatala, Olodumare etc are names but only the God of creation, according to you has no name. How does that tally with commonsense?

Can you provide proof to support your claim? I know you cannot, the next thing is resort to abuses.

Rilwayne001: Please bring your prove and stop this rantings...
Again in that same Surah, below is what God commanded the muslims..

Surah 8, Verse 61:
[size=24pt] But if they incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! [/size]

What is islamic definition of peace? To incline to peace in islam is to be converted to islam wether you like it or not.

Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture AS BELIEVE NOT IN ALLAH nor the Last Day and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, AND FOLLOW NOT THE RELIGION OF TRUTH.....(Quran 9:29).

The altimate aim of muslims fighting everywhere as stated in that verse is forcing people to become muslims. To be at peace with them you have to be converted. Yet they say islam is a religion of peace. Hypocrisy.

Is this not terrorism.

Rilwayne001: Your initial claim was that Surah 8:12 is a verse of terrorism, and i showed you in that same Surah where Allah urge muslims to make peace with those who are fighting them....


Please address the OP by quoting it one after the other and prove me wrong....

Are those islamic militants (terrorists) muslims or pagans?

What is their source of inspiration?

Of what faith are those who recite the quran when slaughtering their victims?

Which other religion do you see the faithfuls forming militant groups to advance their religion?

Do you know why boko haram cannot be negotiated with?

Islam is about hypocrisy, it is not what is written in the quran they do, even by Muhammad. I have proved this to you several times.

PAGAN9JA: They are GODS, not humans. The Gods dont live anywhere. When referring to the "abode of the Gods" . we basically refer to the Spiritual Realm. The Gods are ever-present all around and in us.

You mean their abode, Spiritual Ream has no name? e.g Yemoja (Mamaid) is a spirit but lives inside water.

PAGAN9JA: The Creator God. If you are asking me the specific name, it depends on your language.

Source: Common sense and Religious Custom.

As a Pagan and believer, I believe every material action/work done has a spiritual parallel. Therefore, the act of Creation must involve the SPiritual Force of Creation/The God of Creation.

The Creator is the source origin of all aspects of creation.

You mean you don't know the name of the God of creation even in your language?

Common sense cannot be a source of spiritual things just like physical (common) eyes cannot see spirits. Religious Custom if not documented is not believable to those who do not belong to that custom. It is not right for you to say anything you cannot evidence, infact so far, you have no evidence for your claims.

PAGAN9JA: Thats a lie. there is no proof of heavens existence in the first place.

Where do your gods live?

PAGAN9JA: No. All Gods are not involved in creation.

Which God did the creation and what is your source?

PAGAN9JA: Light cannot exist without darkness.

That is the central concept of the Lord Esu, which you fail to grasp.

This is why you are so narrow minded.

There is no darkness in heaven (Revelation 22:5).

PAGAN9JA: Light cannot exist without darkness.

That is the central concept of the Lord Esu, which you fail to grasp.

This is why you are so narrow minded.

Was it esu who created you? Yes or No and how?

proo212: @true2god and truthman2012, I have to admit I was going to reply Rilwayne regarding the Battle of Badr and the assertion that the Muslims were attacked and persecuted for their faith. I know this is a false narrative because Islamic sources say that there 8 expeditions (robbing caravans to cut the supply of goods to the meccans) before the battle of Badr in 624AD and each one of them the muslims were the aggresors. (How is that fighting defensive Jihad?)

It is documented that they won the Battle of Badr ("a timely revelation came to Mohammed", the funny thing is they lost the next battle miserably and there was no revelation...

I gleaned some of this info from excerpts from "The Life of Mohammed" by Ibn Ishaq. The earliest and perhaps the most authoritative historian of Mohammed.

I will have to buy a copy and read it because there is also arguments from some quarters because a lot of muslims dont like the fact that its not all sweetness and light about Mohammed. Kind of like the "weak hadiths" that dont flatter Mohammed and Islam argument.

The OP will keep mute over the points you have raised or deny the hadith, as usual of muslims. They deny any hadiths that do not speak in favour of Muhammad as if they were written by Christians.

As soon as anybody declares ''shahadadah'' - there is no god save Allah and Muhammad is his prophet, an islamic demon will enter into such a person and blind his/her spiritual eyes to prevent him/her from seeing the falsehood of islam. It takes special grace and mercy of God to get them liberated.

Macelliot: I don't know why muslim justifies themselves, as if their belief is the authentic one?
Truthman2012 is an intelligent Christian and not an ignorant non-Muslim
Is that taken?

Thanks and God bless you my brother.

true2god: All Islamic terrorists, boko haram, al-shabab, hizbollah, and current syrian rebels, shout 'allahu akbar' before carrying out their attacks, beheading and killings. I have never heard or seen any attacker shouting 'HALLELUYA' before killing him victim.

Exactly.

@OP

You wrongly interpreted the verses of the bible you quoted. What Jesus meant was not a command or encouragement to draw swords against any people. What he meant was that accepting and preaching the Gospel will make people to draw swords agains the believers. That was exactly what happened to the believers.

James was beheaded, Stephen stoned to death, Peter killed and even Paul. Even today, Christians are killed for their faith.

Many Christian converts have been disowned and sent away by their parents for receiving the Gospel.

But today there are various islamic militants spread over the world carrying the quran with them. What is the source of their inspiration? I am yet to hear of Christian militants fighting with bible in their hands

Who is fighting with today's muslims before killing and bombing innocent souls?

striktlymi: A bit confused right now with your question. You seem to want to suggest that the 'God of the Jews' is different from the 'God of the Christians'? Is that what your question implies?

There was the dispensation of the Father, OT (Judaism) and there is the dispensation of the Son, NT. There is no call to war in in the New Testament for the Christians.

macof: You are a big illiterate.

Go to USA, Cuba, Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago, Ghana, Togo, Benin jst to mention a few
There are many worshipers of Esu

Now going away from the name "Esu"
Esu is,known in many cultures with different names like Loki, Mercury and Hermes in Europe.
Ekwensu in Igboland
And many others I don't even know

Esu is not exclusively Yoruba, Esu is a universal spirit

You are actually a child of esu (satan) as the way you think and talk reflect that. I have no time for people like you anymore. What fellowship has light with darkness.

striktlymi: Compare the above with:

Deuteronomy 2:25King James Version (KJV)

25 This day will I begin to put the dread of thee and the fear of thee upon the nations that are under the whole heaven, who shall hear report of thee, and shall tremble, and be in anguish because of thee.

and tell me if that automatically make Christians terrorists?

To whom was that statement made, Jews or Christians?

@Op

I can see the reason why you were vehemently opposed to Apostle Paul. As I said there, nobody with the Spirit of the true God would accuse Paul the way you did. This is just by the way.

Esu is only a god to the Yoruba idolaters, not known in other parts of Nigeria and the world. He is not the God of creation and his operations are limited to an enclave. He is known for vices and not virtues.