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Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 10:47am On Jan 01, 2015
johnydon22:
habaaaaa mehn you guys av a mind too evil that i find it hard to.fathom..please we are done... carry on with ur delusion and all that
Running away because it is impossible to change the truth.

Anyway, no thanks for your negative contributions.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 10:42am On Jan 01, 2015
johnydon22:
exaclty my point... its the same child sacrifice you accuse the other nations of practising... gerit?
If it is not from God it is not of God. If God accepts human sacrifice, He deserves it as the Creator. Idols (evil spirits) who are not the Creators have no right to take life they cannot create. You don't take what does not belong to you.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 10:28am On Jan 01, 2015
johnydon22:
yeah every nation in the world stipulates death penalty for women and children and innocent babies... yes continue!!!
What about the other questions?

In God's judgement, He who knows all things, women, children and babies are not exempted because He knows what they will become in the future. The young of a snake is a snake. Who says women are not given death penalty under the law?
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 10:19am On Jan 01, 2015
johnydon22:
didnt jesophath sacrifice his daughter to yahweh in the bible?... habaaa nawa oo.. owk they were doing child sacrifice and the isrealites came and still killed the children by dashing them against rocks, the same innocent babies.habaaa. we all know the number of babies and children that must av been killed during that massacre will be far greater than the ones you claim they must av allegly sacrificed to their god.
not even to talk of the pregnant women ripped open with the sword... what is this... what type of human is still defending and justifying this... seriously no offence but ur heart is evil for trying to justify this...embarassed
Let's see your source where you got the allegations. There could be more to it.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op):
truthman2012:
God punished and will punish anyone or people who commit wicked acts like those in the OT. See https://www.nairaland.com/2032869/did-god-realy-killed-innocent.

Even the constitution of every nation of the world forbids anybody from committing wicked act and stipulates death penalty in some cases. Atheist do not see anything wrong with that but when it comes to God, they, because of the kind of spirit dwelling inside them will blame God.

Muslims kill non-muslims not because they commit wicked act but for refusal to convert to islam, yet they say their is no compulsion in religion. Is that justifiable to you?

By islamic operations, you do not deserve to live as an atheist. How will you feel if muslims chop off you neck for not being a muslim?

You just try to argue for argument sake. You have no point.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op):
johnydon22:
what type of stupid evidence do u have to justify all that homicide and baby killing... please my brother stop trying to justify this... its totally wrong and evil!!!
God punished and will punish anyone or people who commit wicked acts like those in the OT. See https://www.nairaland.com/2032869/did-god-realy-killed-innocent.

Even the constitution of every nation of the world forbids anybody from committing wicked act and stipulates death penalty in some cases. Atheist do not see anything wrong with that but when it comes to God, they, because of the kind of spirit dwelling inside them will blame God.

Muslims kill non-muslims not because they commit wicked act but for refusal to convert to islam, yet they say their is no compulsion in religion. Is that justifiable to you?

By islamic operations, you do not deserve to live as an atheist. How will you feel if muslims chop off you neck for not being a muslim?

You just try to argue for argument sake. You have no point.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 7:57am On Jan 01, 2015
johnydon22:
this is what i hate about christians... always trying to twist the obvious truth and justify the god of the bible of all his murder and genocide.
Tell me how what the God of the bible did with the isrealites in the OT and what the christians did during the dark ages when the church was in power is different from what islam is doing now... they are all the same no justification.
and for those saying the god of the bible created humans and have the right to kill em or judge remember the muslims believe that same shii that allah created humans..
With all the evidences? Biased atheist! Trash.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 7:35am On Jan 01, 2015
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Christianity EtcRe: Ex-Muslim Priest: All Muslim Must Change To Christian To Avoid Hell Fire. by truthman2012(m): 7:29pm On Dec 31, 2014
It must be God that was responsible for his conversion. Many muslims have read the quoted verses over and over and they do not make any meaning to them. I say congratulations to him.

God says ''I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy. God counted him as one of those who received mercy.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 6:57pm On Dec 31, 2014
malvisguy212:
God bless you too.

They always accused God of creating evil , so just incase someone bring the issue, read here https://www.nairaland.com/2035915/did-god-create-evil-does
Thanks a lot, the link is very educative. Remain blessed.

I notice the muslims could not come up to refute this thread. What we have are a few biased atheists who are blind to the truth. Let's pray the truth will set the muslims free.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 5:36pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
Do u see any seriousness in it?
You are here to toast a woman on the net, it shows how serious you are as a Christian. No wonder you could not get the truth of the thread. Create your thread for love making. Smh!
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 5:03pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
2014 is running out nd its not good for u to be having superboring come 2015,what about we hook up?
Is this the evangelism you are recommending?
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 4:35pm On Dec 31, 2014
malvisguy212:
you accused the true God of genocide but you fail to provide evidence that God killed without a cause. Go through this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2032869/did-god-realy-killed-innocent
The link you gave, which coincidentally is your thread is super. God bless you.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op):
Elkewwty:
I'm not a supporter pf islam but i am telling you that both the god of the bible and dat of the koran saction unjustly genocide



Now please i want you to answer this honestly, what is the different between the above and what jesus the father commanded moses, david , saul and other prophet ofthe bible did in the OT? wasnt dis jesus the one commanding dem to kill? will dey go to paradise after dey av been killed?



Repent from what exactly?
God would not kill any people without having warned them but muslims kill without warning and without room for repentance.

Repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 2:34pm On Dec 31, 2014
Elkewwty:
What sin? and who told you dat he created them? why did he kill d whole of egypt in the first place instead of crossing over the sea to kill the natives of those lands? what sin has those little infant done dat warrant dere head to be smashed to the tree? why would your god order moses to kill every breathing creatures? (60cities were massacred and there lands were taken). is your god dis powerless that he cant find another way in dealing with them? meanwhile, in the bible we see that this god of israel is only of israel amd not of the whole world.



Was'nt jesus the one commanding all those killings? Why didnt jesus come in the first place b4 moses was ordered to kill people? how about those dat died in tsunami, earthquake and other natural are dey not sufffering from your gods anger (as u believed)?
What he one die without believing your jesus, isnt jesus going to roast unbeliever in hell (as in your delusions)?



tell me the different between the person that think i must die and the one dat think i will roast in fire?
Islam says you should die now and go to hell as a freethinker but Christianity says you should not die now but repent to escape hell.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 2:20pm On Dec 31, 2014
malvisguy212:
the people of samaria are israelite they turn away from the Lord and God pronounced judgment on them. The verse you quote start like this ''"The people of Samaria must bear their
guilt, because they have rebelled
against their God''. Why dint you quote there guilt ? You quote the verse that pronounced judgment on them but fail to quote the whole story. Funny atheist.
Thank you my brother. He is just arguing for argument sake. God would not punish any people if they have not committed sin. Is it a sin to be a non-muslim?
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 2:11pm On Dec 31, 2014
@Horus

Your allegations that some born-again Christians razed hospitals for committing abortion are not tenable for want of evidence.

Children are not innocent in the sight of God because they are children as He knows what they will become in the future. The young of a snake is a snake.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op):
Elkewwty:
lols whats d different between dem and your god?
God has the right to punish His creatures if they sin. And that was what He did in OT. But Jesus suffered that we might not suffer God's anger in this world and after death as true believers in Christ.

Is it a sin to be a non-muslim? If yes, it means you deserve to die from muslims as a freethinker.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 1:50pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
They can't kill all the christains that assurance I have from my Father. Our Job is preaching Christ and Christ alone,Teaching the Church Holiness and Holiness alone,Making disciples of all nation not teaching Islam killing is not d same with Bible itch.
Face the reality,Here on Nairaland u have two things to do. Mission to the Lost here(Preaching of Christ) nd Mission to the Church(Encouragement in Faith). Now who is this message for, The Church or the world who doesn't even know God?
Thank you for your contributions. Bye.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 1:36pm On Dec 31, 2014
Elkewwty:
They are the same, stop lying to yourself
Do you have comrehesion problem? Tell how they are the same. As a freethinker you said you are, to you it is right for muslims to keep killing innocent souls. It is not your fault, if they have chopped off your hands and legs, you would have appreciated what am saying. Smh!
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 1:24pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
Dear,does this look like a joke to you?
It is not meant to be. If muslims succeed in killing all the Christians, who will carry out Jesus command that you raised?

I suspect you are only pretending to be a Christian.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 1:19pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
I'm not saying He is not clear, what i ask his what is Truth? Jesus gives us one commision "Go yee into the world and make disciples of all nations,baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son,and of the Holy Spirit,TEACHING them to observe ALL that i have COMMANDED you" Now answer is this the Teaching Of Jesus? Did Jesus talk about allah? Now i'm challenging the basis of this writing.Who Send You?
Basis of writing? I intend to stop muslims who justify their brutality with the bible. The true God did not command anyone to go killing for Him.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 1:00pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
I ask you what is Truth?
The OP is clear enough please.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 12:44pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
What is Truth?
Read with rapt attention and you will discover the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Killings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op): 12:38pm On Dec 31, 2014
starlingslimnet:
Who send u to be doing this?
Who sent me to saying the truth?
Christianity EtcKillings In The Bible Are Not The Same As Killings By Muslims by truthman2012(op):
It has been discovered that each time people accuse muslims of terrorism, they quickly refer to the bible
where they claim the same terrorism exists. They are dead wrong. There is no terrorism in the bible.

There Were two types of killings in the bible: internal and external:

INTERNAL KILLINGS

There were various laws God handed down to the Istraelites in the Old Testament, with various consequences
for breaking them, including death. These laws served as their constitution. If a person or a group of
of persons violated the laws the consequence was already made known and clear to them. It cannot be termed
TERRORISM if people were killed for violating the laws.Just as muslims are also required to live by
"sharia laws", which have death penalty for some offences as well.

EXTERNAL KILLINGS

First, the war and violence found within the Old Testament are DESCRIPTIVE AND NOT PRESCRIPTIVE. They are
describing events as they occurred, the commandments God had given to specific people for a specific
purpose. These instructions of warring are not prescriptions for the Jews. They would not fight unless
specifically instructed by God as it was not a standing instruction. This is unlike the
Quran. The islamic injunctions are PRESCRIBED and binding on all Muslims for all times
(not for specific occasions), making it mandatory that all the faithful wage war against the infidels
till the end of the age. It is a standing instruction - "Warfare is PRESCRIBED (ordained) for you,
though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen ye hate a thing which is good for you,
and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth , ye know not"
(Quran 2:216).
I ask, how is endless war good for man? Who says TERRORISM is not part of islam?

Second, none of the OT wars were fought with the purpose of forcibly converting the pagans to the
religion of Israel. God commanded these wars for specific purpose of PUNISHMENT and JUDGEMENT for
specific people for their atrocious and wicked acts. Again, these wars are not prescribed.

ISLAMIC TERRORISM

Right from the time of Muhammad, muslims were fighting people on religious ground, not for specific occasions
but all occasions. As far as Allah is concerned, no one deserves to live if not a muslim.
Please note that they were not fighting as a nation but as religious groups
who wanted to convert non-muslim by force. No doubt this is nothing but TERRORISM.

Again, muslims would want us believe that Muhammad and his jihadists were fighting defensive war,
having realized that their actions were evil. But records are not on their side:

(Sahih Muslim 1:33).
The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded by Allah to fight against people till they testify
that there is no God but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer
and pay Zakat".

This is offensive and not defensive.
With this coercion, they still want us to believe islam is a region of peace and that there is no compulsion
in their religion.

Bukhari 59:643
"Testify that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah or else I will chop off your neck"!
Is this not offensive?

With this, muslims still tell us there is no compulsion in their religion. What do you say about this
clearly stated compulsion in relation to the quranic statement:
"And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
UNTO YOU YOUR RELIGON AND TO ME MY RELIGION (Quran 109:4-6).
Look at the glaring deception. If people are actually allowed to practice their religion as stated here,
why go about killing them for not accepting islam? It takes deception and hypocrisy to be a muslim.

Quran 3:83
Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has
submitted to Him, WILLINGLY OR BY COMPULSION?

This is against the earlier verse (2:256) that says
there is no COMPULSION in religion. Hypocrisy at its highest.

Then, is it true that every soul on earth has submitted to Allah as the Quran says? This is a blatant
lie by Allah. If every soul has submitted to islam, why do we have people of other faiths?
If every soul has submitted to him in heavens, why do they have people in hell?
This shows muslims' Allah is not the true God as God cannot lie.

SUSPECTED MOTIVE OF ALLAH

Since it could not be said that it is love for mankind to go to heaven that drives muslism to force
people to accept islam and kill them if they do not, then it would be right to suspect Allah's motive.
If they are driven by love for people they would not kill and send them to hell.
At least, they should have given the people the time and opportunity to repent and accept islam voluntarily
before the end of their lives. Therefore their actions must have ulterior motive.

Allah promised the muslims hell as in:
"Every soul will taste of death. And ye will be paid on the Day of Resurrection only that which ye have
fairly earned. WHOSO IS REMOVED FROM THE FIRE and is made to enter Paradise, he indeed is triumphant.
The life of this world is but comfort of illusion"
(Quran 3:185).

Since ALL muslims are bound to go to hell immediately at death, and waiting to be removed on the
indefinite Resurrection Day, it is therefore clear that Allah's intention is to drag everybody
to hell? The truth is: once in hell is forever in hell. What makes one qualify for hell will make him/her
remain there as there is no forgiveness after death.

The Lord Jesus did not promise true Christians a stopover in hell. He said in my Father's house
are many mansions, it it were not so I would have told you, I am coming again to take you unto myself, so that WHERE
I am there you will be also
(John 14:1-3)

Therefore, muslims are hereby invited to join us in our preparation for heaven on the Last Day. Jesus does
not take to hell, it is Satan that does. Remember, Jesus told the thief on the Cross, TODAY
you shall meet me in Paradise (Luke 23:43). What manner of a person would prefer hell to heaven?
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 8:36pm On Dec 30, 2014
Elkewwty:
You are not wise or probably you are not thinking straight.
Perhaps your hypocrisy has beclowded you from seeing and saying the truth. had it been you are thinking like a wise man, you would have seen dat you just affirm to the response of weah with dis your post. how will you feel if israel attack nigeria today and kill everyone before taking over our land, and dey actually did dat because dere god allegedly created everything.?.smh.



the question you are asking here automatically answered your thread (you will see that only if you are wise, which i doubt if you are). Infact weah already made it clear dat dey (islami terrorist) are also killing for dere god because they believe dere god created everything. can you now see your level of hypocrisy?

gudbye.
Smh!!!
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 12:15pm On Dec 30, 2014
Elkewwty:
lie,

read verse 24, they are busy taking possesion of lakd dat his not deres and your god was busy putting terrors in the heart of the natives of those lands. smh
U don't believe any religion yet you keep searching the bible ignorantly. What is not their's? Who created what you think is Cananites'?
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op):
malvisguy212:
just like how satan deceive eve to sink the foundation of the world, that is how he(satan) was using women to sink our new foundation in Christ.the way women are causing controversy in the church is so much, satan is using the same trick he use on eve.
Thank you.
You see, there is an adage in Yorubaland that says ''it is the misbehaviour of one slave that causes people to insult all slaves''. I agree with you that women are good instruments in satan's hand and that they easily fall into his hand, but yet there are women that are vessels of honour in the hand of the Lord. Alkewwty is like a slave wanting us to condemn all the slaves, abi?
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 7:19am On Dec 30, 2014
malvisguy212:
I believe, the brother is a jehovah witness.
She is a woman jare! Thank you.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 10:02pm On Dec 29, 2014
Elkewwty:
2:25 This very day I will begin to put the
terror and fear of you on all the nations
under heaven.
They will hear reports of you
and will tremble and be in anguish because
of you.”

Is these verse talking about the amorite? the bolded is clear enough.
You lack good knowledge of the bible. The terror and fear referred to was a form of security for the Israellites. Instead of their enemies attacking them, they would be feared.
IslamRe: Why Do Muslims Believe Everybody Should Be A Muslim? by truthman2012(op): 9:31pm On Dec 29, 2014
proo212:
Truthman2012, many thanks for this verse. I only knew about this one. Thank God for Jesus.
Thank you, you are welcome.

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