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Deep Sight:
Any person with a remote idea [/b]of what the Godhead is or what it signifies would know certainly that no man could ever see God, or approach God or directly "encounter" God in person one on one.

God is absolutely intangible and inexpressible and no living being could approach God.

So your scenario cannot happen: and if it did, clearly the entity in question parading itself as God must be a fraudulent Nigerian Con Artist.

And where does your Godhead [b]idea come from?

What makes your idea right and the others wrong?

Why should we accept your idea and reject others?

Whats the big deal, bill clinton got a Mouth Action and cum all over the white house, he bounced back!

Tiger will do same. If that gold digging bitch of a wife of his tries to review the prenup he should divorce and toss her to the bin.

She was a nanny when he met her and all of a sudden she wants to be a millionaire.

What is the opposite of false if not True?

If a positive statement can't be verified as true isn't it logical to regard it false or is there an intermediate between True and false?

That crazy wife of his should be arrested for assault. . .what a bitch!

What kind of stupid question is this, eh?

Banom, now that you're "born again" I can certainly use your help in opening my own church.

Email me at Tudor.nairaland@yahoo.com and let us begin planning.

I believe the spirit of the lawd is about to use US to do GREAT things.

Whatever the lawd has done in OUR lives, it shall be permanent. Amen!

Another trophyless year beckons for the gunners. . . . .what a pity

You guys should pay no attention to banom, i still think he's joking around

Deep Sight:
So Tudor - It's safe to say that you are driven by a rejection of myth and superstition, yes?

What qualifies as myth and what is superstition?

davidylan:
and here was i thinking he had something serious to tell us.

Would you like me to mail you my diary?

Deep Sight:
Tornadoes, hurricanes, Tsunamis, and other such natural "disasters" are normal parts of the Earth's balancing process and are necessary and integral for the continuous renewal and maintenance of the Earth's diverse natural systems. You should know this Tony.

See how these people lie and deceive themselves in order propagate delusions like Oneness of Infinity?

Few days ago I told this joker the formation of the first living thing and thus life were a product of the earth striving towards balance. . .he summarily dismissed it and here he is yapping away about tornadoes, genocide,tsunamis and co needed for balance. . . . I laugh. . .

Deep Sight: Abeg jaare go siddon for one side!
Are you for real? ? ?
Were you not exposed in your sickening contradictions earlier in this thread and you are still yapping? ? ? ? ? ?
You stated very clearly yourself that humans are the ones responsible for the genocide. So what more do you have to say again? Hold your peace and let others who have not yet contradicted themselves do the talking.
I have noticed that the most brilliant line you consistently offer is merely to repeat that no one has proved anything - even after all the proof in teh world has been given to you!

Does this guy have anything NEW to say other than RANTING about phantom contradictions?

Who is responsible for humans(according to the myth) if not God?

If you don't have an xplanation as to how existence came to be, then be silent!

I agree I don't know and woe bedtide anyone who doesn't believe a magical Oneness of Infinity beautifully shit the world into existence.

I vote Atiku and tiatma. . . I love these guys with all my heart.

Well After all the ranting back and forth NOBODY is yet to tell us where God was during the genocide and why he/she/it didn't stop it.

What I gotta do to get an answer. . .sacrifice my testicles?

Jaylone:
GOD can still be perceived in just the same way He was perceived in the Bible times Tudor. But it would not be to prove to you that He is in existence but for you to know Him.

Yeah right, when God was manifesting for elijah it was so the 300 prophets of baal might know him, right?

He created you so you can worship Him. And you are too small to question Him or His existence

The SOLE purpose of man is to worship God? What ever happened to the so called angels?

aletheia:
Ever since I was little (and till today) she keeps feeding me this mumbo jumbo about how God abi na jesus revealed to her the afternoon i was born, I'll be a great servant of God and other shit like that. . .several times I told her it was the anti-pain morphine that caused the hallucinations. To her it will be a fulfilment of the that divine vision.

Perhaps that's why Tudor is an atheist.

Yey, this guy is a genius. . .somebody please notify the Nobel Commitee in Sweden.

Its funny the way aletheia and co are all here whining about how their God is trancedent and cannot be proven using physical means at our disposal. . . Is it not the SAME god who was having conversations with moses? God who also fought battles side by side with isrealites and sent down fire for elijah to prove that he himself is most powerful, God who spoke for all to hear during the baptism of jesus then ALL OF A SUDDEN when mankind became smarter and abandoned primitivity and myths then God disappeared and became shy. Now to prove their God has become a problem we now hear them ranting god is "transcedent" and cannot be perceived with our 5 senses. I laugh in tongues!

aletheia:
Whose athelia? Your girlfriend I think you meant aletheia:
You will find evidence for a global flood here: http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/worldwide-flood-evidence
Try to read it objectively.

Here I was thinking this guy has some new info.

Again, the LIES and scientific inaccuracies in this answersingenesis site has been continiously exposed. I suggest you search for those threads and educate yourself.

davidylan:
This is absurd to be honest. I asked this question - it atheism is based on facts right? You responded by saying - YES. Then promptly, irrelevantly and completely out of nowhere state that christianity not being able to provide logical proof for the existence of God is one of the "facts" atheism is based on?

Is that not FACT?
mind you I only use "christians" here because I know you're christian.

You asked for facts atheism is based on and I gave it to you. . .why are you now crying?

aletheia: 2. Enough evidence as to the existence of God has been presented elsewhere as you no doubt are aware of. Atheists reject out of hand any evidence that cannot be pigeon-holed into their naturalistic and deterministic worldview.

Evidence and claims are two different things. . .we need Logical, empiric and conclusive proofs and not ridiculousities like look how beautiful the stars are.

3. I only seek to demonstrate that atheists make a categorical statement that requires positive proof but which they are either unwilling or incapable of proving.

Atheists make NO claims, we simply reject those made by theists based on LACK of EVIDENCE

Also you are yet to give a satisfactory answer to my statement. "If I choose not to answer your phone calls, does it prove my non-existence?"

Much simpler is my question; does that in any way prove your existence?

How i became atheistic is irrelevant, the important thing is I rejected the LIES.

@athelia
You are a LIAR. There is NO archeological or "anthropological" evidence for a global flood. These lies have been constantly exposed on this forum.

I suggest you search for those threads and view them.

davidylan:
and i take it atheism is based on facts right? Please do say yes . . .

Err YES!

Howbout this for fact. . . Christians have NEVER been able to provide logical, empirical and conclusive proof for the existence of their God.

They don't come more factual than that.

aletheia:
Be coherent. Present your response to this: "An atheist, to be consistently assured that his belief is accurate, must also claim to be omniscient, for there always exists the possibility of the existence of God outside his knowledge" I await your response.

Excuse me? Since you claim to be such an expert in logic then you need no magician to tell you the ONUS LIES ON WHO IS MAKING THE POSITIVE CLAIM TO PROVE IT.

Statements like " (Atheists) provide positive evidence for their theisis God does not exist" are really dumb.
What theisis? The idea of a God comes from the theist, an atheist is one who simply rejects God theisis based on the LACK of evidence.

You can't just wake up one morning and rant about a magician in the clouds and expect your listeners to run around looking for evidence to disprove your shit. Its left for you to PROVE IT, if you can't, then the dust bin is where your deluded claims belong.

Let me set something straight, I slept overnight in a cemetary and stream when I was in boarding school. It was a combination of a dare and I personally wanted to experience the "supernatural".

Since I was in a mission school we had several guys and girls who during holy ghost/miracle service fessed up to be mermaids or witches (some of them while convulsing).They always claimed to be having meetings at night at the cemetary not too far from school or the stream right around the vicinity and anyone who encounters them would be dead.

Due to my skepticism (which I let every damn soul know) I was dared to go spend a night in each place. . .This I did and found nothing extra ordinary. Several years down the line I'm still alive.

My curiosity also took me to some self styled occultic group. . . I just found out they like all religions are a bunch of jokers who use fear as their main tool of enslavement. There I was also threatened with death if I leave. I did leave and beat up high priest too. I'm still kicking

Core eh?

1. Nobody has ever provided conclusive proof for the existence of God.

2. I found out the universe doesn't a god to exist.

3. After years of being a christian and trying wholeheartedly to experience god I never for once felt anything.

4. I'll never accept another man's idea of god coz as far as am concerned all thought out ideas are what they are THOUGHTS and they bizzarely fall in-line with the expectations and needs of such an individual. If am going to believe in a god then personal encounter should do it. But that ain't gonna happen, We all know how shy and timid the gods are, don't we?

5. The realities of life don't in anyway show there's a god out there. . .
6. I've done everything from visiting herbalists/occultists to spending a night near an eerie stream and a cemetary all to investigate this idea of magic or supernatural yet not once did I find positive proof.

Then. . . . . . .

foyeks2001:
the person i dislike the most is afam and this is wat he said to me

Just do 2 things for me. Get your basic spelling of words right and then get a boyfriend. Don't take your frustration out on me.
quote from afam

the person i dislike the most is afam, telling me that, i shud get my spelling of words rite(as if am writing ACCA or sumtin) and also telling me to get a boyfreind on Yaradua threatens to shut down AIT as a topic(dont know how that got to do wit the topic)

Sorry for the ill treatment received from that hateful entity called Afam. . .you have to know Afam is deeply troubled, he has so much self-hate in him that he blames every other person for his life woes.

You can NEVER find him making sense on this forum rather all he does is championing anti-semitism and ranting how he wishes ABACHA were still alive and president. The deranged state of mind of such a person is obvious, isnt it?

What EXACTLY do I need to be saved from? Why do I need salvation? What do I gain from salvation?

I eat the flesh and drink the blood of christians. . . . So far i've devoured ten so I guess that makes me 10 christians.

Another coincidence! My father died on bellview flight too. . .infact he was the pilot.

0hsisi:
is this eckankar or grail?

Na deep sight convert me ooo, make you ask am.

@ Banom,welcome to the saving Grace of the Lord.
Your name is written in that book of life.

Banom, beware. . .the LORD is as lazy, incompetent and forgetful as a nigerian civil servant. Check out. Genesis 30 ; 22

And God remembered Rachel, and God hearkened unto her and opened her womb

After all your work he might Forget to put your name in the book of life OR even forget the book of life somewhere in heaven.

And what EXACTLY would this thread acheive? This would be a waste of my precious time.

Anybody who's intrested in my "treatise" (what the f**k does that mean?) can read all my previous posts made with this I.D and my numerous other banned i.d's. I've stated my reasons one time or the other.

There's no food for lazy man. . .you must work for your salvation.

Ascony nice one!
Let us know when the book is out. . .

Too bad for the 1 million dead in the rwanda genocide, they must have sang that prayer a million times.

What a coincidence I had a unique experience in church today. . .me too I denounce satan atheism and embrace the one true creator, who is also known as Oneness of Infinity. . . I feel my life changing for the better. Thank you Jesus.