₦airaland Forum

AjaraEwuro:
who gives a fu ck if you are an atheist or not? Atheist my foot. The same way you find it easy to rain insults on believers, just the same way we will continue to rain insult on your moda foking head, a man of no strong conviction? Atheist? my foot.

An Atheist who find it easy denouncing everything christian/muslim can never be a fair moderator - how can an atheist be ever fair in things he or she doesnt beleive in nor understand? Some people's brain sure is gone to sleep. Example, lets say someone creates a thread about God, and this foolish atheist moderator in his mind doesnt beleive in God, how fair, thorough or appropriately can he moderate something he doesnt understand?

It's your brain that is dead. What is there to understand about a god that doesn't even exist?

Let me educate your dull mind. . .with the over 30,000 sects in christianity each with its own ideas and dogma about god, tithe and all, its ONLY an atheist with no stake in either that can moderate fairly with no bias.

If you like CRY from now till next year. . .nothing dey change!

Manmustwac I made it a pretty straightforward yes-no poll. . .is that okay?

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herniec:
@Tudor, if you really mean to protect the innocent as you claim, then you should do what the Bible says. The best way to protect the innocent is to preach and teach the truth. Your intention is noble, but your method is questionable. As an individual who is interseted in helping the innocent, you should focus on teaching the Word. Anybody can do what are doing now. But how many are truly involved in teaching the Word of Salvation? How many souls have you preach Christ to this years? If you are really burdened for souls, "preach the word; be instant in season and out of season. do the work of an evangelist." It is well with your soul.

Okay let me look at things from your side.


Dude you've got a point but this isn't the time to be thinking about political correctness and diplomacy. We're talking about peoples souls here and these charlatans are leading innocent people to HELL. Does that not bother you?

They've got millions of followers, do you know how many die in a day? Besides you're all stakeholders in the body of christ and its your obligation to alert people about false prophets who are fleecing the people in the name of jesus.

Apostle paul criticized peter in the bible and every slowpoke in Nigeria knows how the PFN and its bling bling pastors always criticize pastor chris and TB joshua calling them false prophets. So whats new?

sayso:

In church on Sunday 27th September we prayed for Nigeria and with faith in our hearts things will definitely be better come 2010

Dude we've been praying for 49 years!

When Nigeria got independence we prayed, military coups we prayed, civil war we prayed, massive corruption, dwindling economic fortunes and widespread poverty, we are praying, elections are rigged we pray. For decades churches like RCCG block fedral expressways monthly killing and wounding a few all for prayer. Every October 1st pastor chris will distribute free rapsody of realities urging us to pray, churches even have special intercessory prayers and crusades for nigeria. Yesterday I switched on to NTA international and saw politicians doing thanksgiving and prayer service for Nigeria(this they do every year). . . .

INSPITE of all these we're still one of the poorest and most corrupt nations. Poverty is so rampant you can feel it with your hands. . . .What more evidence do stupid Nigerians need to know that God is a deaf and dumb useless fu.ckhead?? ??

This country will keep going down when we refuse to stand up and act instead choosing to troop to camp grounds to bind the devil.

Nigeria would remain as useless as shit as long as we exalt crooks who call themselves men of god as our national heroes and legends, yet these same people are the friends and spiritual fathers of our oppressors.

It's only WE that can demand and effect change and not by invoking any jewish ghost.

@topic.
There's nothing to celebrate. . . Nigeria is a failure.

herniec:
Why are you all embittered against these men of God?

Who made them men of god?
Do they write it on the forehead?

I'm not in any way trying to justify them - neither do I condemn them.[b] The Good Book says "judge not so that you will not be judged." [/b]It is God Who has the true report card of these men. His judgement is impartial and final.

The good book also says "Test all spirits". . . . I've tested their spirit and its absolute bullshit.

We do not have anytthing to gain by condemning these men or anybody for that matter.

Says who?. . . . How about preventing innocent people from falling prey to these naira and kobo charlatans?

mikesleek:
Well, from what i know, OBJ was the one after the GO and not the other way round.

Well is quite obvious you don't know shit.

Redeemed has a conglomerate of big wigs and i don't want to believe that none of them could give their GO whatever he needs.

How many of the big wigs are powerful enough to give him presidential waivers?

We now see how some of the so-called "big wigs" like pastor Erastus and ceceilia ibru have been exposed as frauds and embezzlers. Later the foolish G.O would claim to have the holy spirit and spirit of discernment. He only knows how to collect their dirty money and purchase jets.

For OBJ purpose, OBJ himself said it in one of the conventions that he met with the GO and bla bla bla,  make sure you ascertain you statements before placing them out.

Is this supposed to make any sense?

Err how'd you want it. . . . Is it in terms of cash or favours like the import waiver granted daddy GOat by OBJ?

It was a bit of a shock for me to log on this morning and see our very own manmustwac as moderator . Naturally I felt is was a mistake and decided to log off and on again. And lo and behold IT WAS STILL THERE!

I must say when seun advertised for moderators recently and with the number of pastors, bishops, evangelists, false prophets and co that applied for the religion section, I was a bit apprehensive as to the fate of non-christians if we had two christian moderators. This was further heightened when one of the applicants told me albeit jokingly he'd ban all atheists if he were a mod.

I must commend seun for this act of wisdom and fairness because an atheist is the only person who can moderate fairly without any bias and fear of the mythical hell/seoul/hades/lake of fire/jinn etc.
And to manmustwac I say congrats and goodluck!

Don't forget to cast your VOTES people. . .

Na today?
Even the senior thieves like Oyedepo and chris do it. We all know how pastor Adeboye was romancing OBJ like they were in a gay relationship all for money.

Oya deep sight fire away. . . I'm most interested in my fate if I don't believe in your diety. . .

Any mathematical genius with the answer to my question yet?

noetic14:
blah blah blah . . . , the kind of ferry tales u tell urself at night just to sleep  

FYI: did u know today is david oyedepo's birthday?. . . . I am surprised u did not  wish him happy birthday  

Are you serious?
I think I remember now, its usually around this period. . . . I can just imagine how service was today. You'd see them celebrating like the messiah was born today. Later 2nite he'll host a "strictly by invitation" party with the creme de la creme.

Me, wish him happy birthday? . . .he's already happy with a private jet and another on the way. . .

I'm calling home right now to hear the gist.

noetic14:
its pretty obvious  Everyone of them keeps talking about it from tudor to huxley, mazaje and now banom . . . . .why are these guys so scared? 

I'd love to go to the mythical hell coz there's nothing in heaven I can't get on earth.

Is it melodious songs?. . . .go to fela's shrine at ikeja.

Golden streets?. . . . The damn middle east has them.

Beautiful mansion?. . . .you can get them cheaper this days in the US due to the slump.

Children playing with lions or serpents?. . . . Go to the damn circus!

Joy and happiness?. . . .yeah, we've got disneyland!

White spotless robes?. . . .go to Aba!

Since we're in the mathematical mood, What is the probability of me randomly typing this same exact sequence on my QWERTY keyboard if i had unlimited time . . .

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I agree with krayola, hell would be party non-stop. . .its gonna be on fire! pun intended. . .

Buy which book?
I'd rather read the koran free of charge.

Buy which book?
I'd rather read the koran free of charge.

noetic12:
must the intelligent designer be created?

Must the universe be created?

noetic12:
must the intelligent designer be created?

Must the universe be created?

cap28:
Tudor there is something seriously wrong with you only a fool would attack something without giving reasons as to why,  have you been able to refute any of the things mentioned in the above posts with substantial coherent arguments ?  no, all you have done is prove just how ignorant you are with verbal abuse and unecessary ranting.

let me try and educate you - the west's relationship with africa has always been about maximising their economic self interest and nothing more, this dates back to the slavery era the bottom line has always been money and power, they are not the benevolent loving people that you in your ignorant mindset think they are.  i can see just how easy it would be for them to outwit someone like you, in your naive blind state you take everything they tell you on face value but in the world of realpolitiks only the cunning, sly and ruthless survive.  I would recommend that you read more, maybe you could start with machiavelli the prince this may introduce some level of critical reasoning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli

if the documentary that you refer to is the same one that i watched it was no fabrication - the CIA agent in question is John Stockwell and he has written many books detailing his experiences in africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stockwell


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9VxnCBD9W4&eurl=

http://www.archive.org/details/AV_048-JOHN_STOCKWELL_AND_THE_CIA-PART_III


Tudor do yourself a favour try reading more, knowledge is power.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. Thats why I dismiss john stockwell and his rants.

He's a smart man, he knew people were clamouring and dying for conspiracy theories involving the CIA thats why his books are bestsellers.

What evidence do we have of john stockwell telling the truth?

Open your eyes and see the lies.

This prof. is simply a joke. Mind you I have an igbo parent so saying I hate igbo people would be out of the question.

What even exposes this woman as a charlatan is claims of human evolution been interrupted and adam lost his divinity, telepathy, levitation, bi-location and bla bla bla.
Soon she'll tell us it all happened in Onitsha.
What is sick is no evidence was presented rather what we see are empty assertions.

Only a slowpoke would give money to support such pseudo-science research.

bawomolo:
why would God create the earth with the serpent lurking around.  why not just destroy the damn snake.

Abi ooo. . .even I woulda done a better job at 5 years old than that useless jew.

Deep Sight:
I am surprised you do not see implicit in your own words the very evidence for the fact that i could not exist by chance.

Are you saying this your mighty diety decides which sperm fertilizes the egg, when ovulation takes place, the exact egg with the given characteristics whic is released, the embryo which survives . . , hell, im sure it has a say in when we Bleep, the period my daughter would be raped, even when my father would go to the club, have a one night stand and produce me all in the grand scheme of the mighty one. Thank you very much.

Afam:

100% correct especially the content in bold.

Each time I see an African leader stand up to these murderers and thieves that effortlessly destroy other countries for their own selfish interests I believe that all hope is not lost. Only if Abacha had not died by now Nigeria would have made serious progress through self actualization as he never bothered with the hypocritical West.

You see why I call your sanity to question?

When every sensible nigerian is joyful for democracy and the death of abacha- who was a dictator, a murderer and a theif who nearly looted this country to bankrupcy and had no regard for human rights and freedom- A SENSELESS man declares he wished the murdering criminal were alive.

You shamelessly and stupidly agreed 100% that mobutu was a bad man and bad for africa only to declare your undying love for Abacha.

Tell me, what is the difference between the crimes comitted by mobutu and those by abacha?. . . . Oh, I Know, Abacha hated the west like Afam while mobutu did not.

In Afams world of stupidity and ignorance the ONLY measure of a good leader is his ability to hate America like Afam. . . I laugh in swahili!

Guess what. . . . I SAW THE DOCUMENTARY TOOOO!!

You people are such disgracing jokers!
The useless harphazard documentary without any solid basis or evidence but the senseless ramblings of a hungry bored retiree claiming to have done everything but overthrowing the white house. What a joke!

The documentary was obviously fabricated and acted out for shallow minded conspiracy theorists so it can appeal to their deluded minds.

From what I can read here, its obvious it worked. Money in the bank for the actors $$$ $$$$

Lwandle:
i HAVE SEEN THIS DOCUMENTARY most interesting because you then begin to understand how all these idiots were able to wage wars with well fed well armed rebel forces in some instances for decades. A more recent example is that idiot Nkunda from the DRC.

These devils will use every trick in the book to try and get their way!

They will continue to perpetuate this myth that US BLACKS are hopeless basket cases who cannot rule ourselves and only delight in raping and killing each other!

We really have to wake up and be aware of all their neo-colonial machinations so as to frustrate them at every turn!
These CIA fronts aka NGOs also really need to be dealt with seriously coz through them our governments and sovereignty are undermined!
Divide and rule is their favourite tactic in Africa[b] you only have to look around and see all the tribal and religious conflicts happening all around us to know something is very wrong with us!
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They will fight tooth and nail to maintain and pepertuate their racist priviledges at our expense!

You are an illiterate. Typical lazy africans blaming the west for EVERYTHING.

Is it the west that marginalised the people of dafur and south sudn before they decided to take up arms? I'm sure its britain that caused all the christian vs muslim religious riots in nigeria. Infact Gordon brown is the major financer of the boko haram movement that wreaked havoc recently in nigeria.

The nigerian federal government has neglected the niger delta for decades under instruction from the white house now they've turned to militancy lets crucify the white house.

All conflicts in africa are caused by the west. . .geez, what a retard!

I see you've finally kissed and made up with everyone. I must admit though I found the little drama funny and it provided me much needed comic relief at a time my beloveth chelsea were being thrashed. . .that didn't stop me from enjoying my saturday night though.

Now to make a quick point. . . . You presented the world as an orderly and beautifully crafted masterpiece. Chris showed you the not so beautiful and orderly. You countered by correctly stating it was all geared towards a greater purpose of "balance". Chris saw chaos, you perceived it as order. . . . Does that not justify my earlier assertion that "There's order in chaos" which you casually waved aside?

What might actually be misconstruing as "intelligence" might actually be the laws of nature at work. I have seen the laws of nature defined as part of the inherent properties of the force/entity/whatever that caused the universe. Just like the magnet has it properties and laws.

From what can be observed we know nature and its forces are always moving towards balance from a state of chaos. Osmosis and difussion are simple examples where even distribution/balance/order are the goals.

Supposing after the big bang with all the disorderliness and chaos scattered around. Like kray said, 14 billion years is a pretty long time for nature to balance out don't ya think?

Remember when you told me a creator doesn't transfer attributes it does not possess to it's creation and I told ya it might have the "raw materials" or "components" but not the "finished product" or in the combination as we've got now. . . Things as we've got them are a product of TIME and conditions.

My point is the first cause aint got to be "intelligent" or "alive" for things to be the way they are. We need more proof if you're gonna allude to such.

Deep Sight:
^^^ Hey! You cant get the $200, 000 yet.

I did not say they serve no purpose. I said they do not resemble eyes, and so the argument about resembling eyes fails.

Really the point is although i accept that patterns have functions, there are many instances where the function is simply. . .  beauty and nothing more.

See: A Mountain is beautiful - is that because it needs to protect itself? Or have sex?

No - It's beautiful simply because the mind of the Universe (God) ascribed beauty to it to be appreciated.

Hope am not talking trash . . . do you get it?

Which mountain are you talking about?
Is it the ones that have been formed through millions of years of volcanic eruptions, erosion, hammered by the winds, rain, cold, heat and animals all contributing to its shape and size? That is simply nature at work and purely RANDOM not deliberate by magic. Had the wind been blowing harder, temp. been more severe and conditions different the mountain would probably be in different shape or not there at all.

Besides you look at the mountain and see beauty , someone else sees an ugly shapeless heap of dirt.

I'm going to bed now. I'm still hungover. . . .

Goøool!!

2nd half begins. . .

That is really LAME. You painted a picture of a beautiful and orderly world "intelligently" designed for purpose. A simple look around shows you the not so beautiful and chaos and all you can say is "go back to nursery school". I laugh!
Why don't you tell us the beauty and intelligence behind earthquakes and tsunamis.

That is really LAME. You painted a picture of a beautiful and orderly world "intelligently" designed for purpose. A simple look around shows you the not so beautiful and chaos and all you can say is "go back to nursery school". I laugh!
Why don't you tell us the beauty and intelligence behind earthquakes and tsunamis.

Don't you see it as irresponsible for a company to owe staff arrears of 4 months salary while hosting an unnecessary award show?