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IgboUK: i believe that we are born, we live and then we die - the end.Yes it is. Because most Nigerians believe they are born, they live and when they die they go to heaven or hell! |
davidylan: Oh ok... you must have no idea what you're talking about then since your "off the cuff" comments make no sense from the perspective of SSCE biology. See above.Fortunately, besides you there are other readers of our posts. It is they that I address. You, I have learned, are not susceptible to logic ![]() |
davidylan: You've become a standing joke. Besides... crying "debunk" at every one isnt proof that you truly know what you are talking about.I don't ferret from the internet. All my posts are off the cuff! |
Logicboy03: No one should waste his time with creationist-biologist Davidylan. He has already been destroyed on evolution long agoThanks. Indeed I am surprised to see he is posting again. He had agreed previously that where logic is concerned, creationists/religionists have no case. Maybe he has regained his second wind, like the proverbial cuckold that was dealt a near death blow!? |
davidylan: how? Please explain how DNA lends credence to the theory of evolution.Even primary school pupils now know that all living things are propagated or reproduced by means of eggs or seeds consisting of genes or chromosomes which are made of DNA (isn't it an irony that an adult who claims to be a biologist doesn't understand the implication of this fact?). In other words all living things whether plants or animals can be reduced to a common chemical formular: the DNA (Deoxyribose nucleic acid). We are all nothing but a collection of chemical compounds, brains and all. The difference between a Rabbit and a human is only a matter of rearrangement or resequencing of DNA! Its as simple as that. Why is it so far-fetched to assume that all living things must have evolved from a common ancestor? |
So far, no creationist has repudiated the assertion (as they have done previously on this and other threads) that the theory of evolution is a scientific fact ![]() |
TroGunn: No evidence that mutations can lead to one organism evolving into a different species. Mutant fruitflies remained fruitfiles, though with messed up wings, for example.Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Let us clear the little matter of whether evolution is a science or not. Many Creationist/religionists have been harping on ''missing links'' in palaeontology and pretending as if palaentology was the same thing as as evolution. Mutation became another evidence in support of Darwin's original theory of the origin of species by natural selection arrived at by careful observation, mesurments and records keeping (the scientific method) .When he first propounded the theory, all he had was natural selection and the occurrence of vestigial tissues to support it. It was accepted by his peers at the time even without the discovery of mutation, genetics, embryology and palaeontology. His only opponents then and now are people of the literal word-of-the bible sects. |
TroGunn: Mutation being responsible for origin of species is the quantum leap of faith needed by evolutionists. No evidence whatsoever.No evidence for mutation or what? |
TroGunn: It is fraud in science when you arrive at a "fact", without conclusive evidence. If truly, simple organisms evolved to more complex ones, the fossil record would be full of evidence of such changes. Instead, the fossils show an explosion of varied organisms in a relatively short period of time - which tallies more with creation.You agree that mutation occurs. Good, we are heading somewhere. You must agree too that it is responsible for the origin of species. If you do then you don't need any more proof that evolution is a science! |
Heatblast: Gbam... I couldn't have said it better... Its a losing battle they're fighting... Creationist are looking for loop holes in evolution theory forgeting the fact that their creation myth has lots of gorges, ask them to give you bone fragments of giant Nephilim, or ask them to give you the location of so called garden of eden or ask them where the nodites came from and you'll see them claiming that human logic does not apply to the creation myth(a creationist once told me that)My usual retort to such claims is that they have no business on the debating floor. If your world view has no room for logic then we should have nothing to discuss, not so? |
honeychild: If people like Logicboy did not insist on asserting that evolution was a fact instead of the theory still undergoing tests that it is, I probably would not have started this thread.But evolution is regarded as fact among mainstream scientists. Its a fact arrived at by the same empirical methods used to arrive at the conclusion that matter is wave-particulate in nature. Only creationists and or religionists are still struggling to accept evolution as a fact. But it doesn't matter because nobody is waiting for them! |
Uyi Iredia and honeychild are way way out of their depth in this matter, but don't know it! They think they are making sense because there are respondents ready to indulge them . |
You guys are kidding me, right? ![]() |
[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]^are you stupi.d So many people worship the SUn these days, especially in Asia. there is no excuse for man-worship in this century.The SUn is a star, when it dies, who knows, a new one will come up somwhere. and it will take billions of years for our current Sun to extinguish. what worthwhile? like writing stupi.d stuff on sensible posts?[/quote]As far as I know the sun never asked anybody to worship it. Worshipping it is an exercise in futility. Wake up! |
martinseme: Every one need to be aware of the truth that a lot of evil spirits ,demons and human agents of darkness are on social networks assigned from the pit of hell to mis-led and drag souls to hell fire . These agents of the devil on mission poise as atheists ,pagans and other ungodly faiths to deceive and lure souls to satan .The bible states be watchful and vigilant for your adversary the devil walketh about like a roaring lion seeking whom to devour.This is how many s'posedly educated Nigerians think. they believe mamywater and genees exist. Some even think there are certain sicknesses that shouldn't be taken to hospitals and that you can make money with human sacrifices! |
If by simply not believing you are destined for hell, what is all the noise, brother frosbel, you are still preaching the gospel of fear. You are no different from the others! |
Sun worship was practised by some ancient people who didn't know any better. No excuse for it in this century. The sun is not immortal. When it runs out of hydrogen it will Kpafutka! Stop deluding yourself and look for something more worthwhile to do! |
hail it or not,it will continue to shine for as long as it can; and it too must die. |
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honeychild: O.k genius.I have neither the interest nor the time to solve your silly puzzle! |
advocate666: Whether you are a believer or not, you would agree with me that prayer achieves no tangible purpose. For non believers, this is obvious but for those that believe, it is very worrying when they come to this realisation.At best it helps you to focus on what you want to do. Otherwise its a distraction. Makes you lazy and prevents you from working hard and preparing diligently for what you want to do. |
honeychild:Yes. You should with only a few pieces of the 13 if you are intelligent enough! |
Bidam: if u don't believe the OP atleast believe jay-z and kanya west who claimed they sold their souls to the devil and do not hide dat fact even in their music...i just pity thousands of our youths who buy their CD's and are enslaved by the lyrics..i weep for my generation.C'mon! leave Jay-Z and Kanye out of this. These guys are just out to make quick bucks by singing any songs that arouse controversy. While you are bordering yourself to death, they are smiling all the way to the bank! |
honeychild: You know you have exercised rare self control till now.... I was wondering when the insults would come pouring out....If after all that has been said in this thread you still believe that evolution is not a science then either we've all been wasting time with you or you just want to argue: you're not thinking at all- trait of a perfect religious bigot! |
It's the tradition in science as well as in crime detection to make the most out of the tiniest bit of information. you may never get any more. If you wait until everybody sees the whole picture, Science would still be in the era of the pre medieval ages (where religionists want it to be, I am sure); how much time have you got to live? Intelligent people can't afford to wait for slow pokes! |
Logicboy03: Funny how the xtains love an atheist that agrees with their worldviewAn 'atheist' that agrees with the world view of Christians is not an atheist, he is confused! |
honeychild: and how is that different from me? I choose to put my faith in the Bible's creation account because quite frankly it makes the most sense to me....but I am labeled 'ignorant'. You choose to put your faith in the 'educated' guesses of fallible humans and you are 'enlightened' and 'logical'.Put your faith in the educated guesses of fallible humans because they are enlightened and logical. Not only that,they also gave us quantum physics, test-tube babies, modern medicine,cell phones and what have you? |
I just want to mention this: that the earth is not hanging on nothing. It is held by the gravitational force of attraction from the sun! This force is enormous and albeit invincible but it cannot be dismissed as 'nothing''. |
I can tell that the poster is a beginner student of the theory of evolution who is either too lazy or too scared to find out what the theory is about. In the first place, the fossil evidence she is talking about only came as a support for the original theory which was mainly about the origin of species and natural selection. You may like to consider other evidences: 1. Natural selection and the variation of species 2. Comparative embryology (the similarity of embryos among many different animals) 3. Fossil evidences not only of humans but of other dead living things. If you want to know more about this subject, keep an open mind and read widely along these themes. |
Galileo Galeili was persecuted (narrowly escaped being burned at the stake) by the inquisition for maintaining that: 1. the earth was not the centre of the world 2. and that it revolved round the sun 3. heavenly bodies were not perfect (the sun had dark sports on its surface, etc. In fact for supporting Copernican view of the world as opposed to Ptolemy's. The Church apologised (in this century) publicly for persecuting Galileo in the 16th century. |
Galileo G. must be turning in his grave! |
Yeah, and I guess most of the Americans who voted against Obama in the last elections have this Jaundiced world view! |



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So many people worship the SUn these days, especially in Asia. there is no excuse for man-worship in this century.