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Logicboy03: I understand your point very well.

However, on the other hand, one can lose his mind living a lie, especially to one that he really loves

You will eventually disclose your atheism when it is too late for her to quit. AT this point she would have had time to really know that you're not the devil.

I live in Nigeria. I have many friends who are xtians; some of them are even pastors. They drink, womanize, cheat and steal more than I do and they still come out shining every day as christians. Surely pretending to be a Christian can't be that hard!

Listen to me when I say:

Never on any account disclose your atheism unless its a casual relationship

make time and go with her to church, maybe, once in two or three months

dalaman: I have lost my belief or faith in Christianity and God. My take is since there is no cosmic balance of justice here on earth, it means that the responsibility is ours to do all that we can to ensure that justice is done here and now. If we don't do it, no one else will do it for us. The belief that there will be cosmic justice eventually sounds very appealing because it allows us to think that, regardless of what happens here, good will triumph. However, this removes from us some of the responsibility to get things right here and now. The afterlife system of justice it self is completely unjust . It's very sadistic in my opinion.

JUSTICE:

Yes, we want here on earth;

under the sun moon and stars!

The people who propounded afterlife justice knew that the only way to make it credible to gullible people was to make it.... afterlife. After all no one will come back from the dead to debunk them

great submission, @dalaman:

Unfortunately,this contradiction that you have so succinctly pointed out is lost on most people.

They are to happy with their precious little beliefs to even ponder for a second what you and I already know:

...that religion is a fraud !

Logicboy03: http://www.examiner.com/article/russia-criminalizes-blasphemy-jail-time-for-insulting-religion

Think nothing of it, @LB03:

Russia as it is now is more like a third world country (They have a power-crazed dictator who is hell-bent on keeping the butcher - Assad - in power; sends criminal gangs to kill dissenting Russian men and women all over the globe etc.)

Russia will never make much progress as long as it is led by people of Putin's mental state.

honeychild: You know, one thing I can say with almost 100% confidence - you can never find a former Jehovah's Witness who is now an atheist. I stand to be corrected though.

Those ones are too far gone!

How does one become a JW in the first place

You've got to have ya head .........

Alfa Seltzer: If you believe there are other gods we shouldn't worship and that there is a God that created everything, you are saying that God created these other gods.

Why?

BEST ANSWER:

The other gods were his former angels who became rebels!

God can't handle them because they learned from the best

......and God is not as perfect as we thought

kuntash: the engine picture post perhaps its an error, thats a Toyota engine and not BMW

its two days and still no explanation for posting toyota engine pics instead of bmw

maclatunji: You know the Nile and Amazon are now salty after you mixed them with salt water. #LOL

Keep telling yourself you are special. #Hehehe

O my Gad!

sombory is pouring milk into my coffee

Help!

Evil Brain: Gaddemmit!!! The Nile and Amazon flow into the gaddem ocean. And then the water mixes, inside the gaddem ocean. The river water doesnt get salty because no ocean water is entering the river. The water is flowing in the opposite gaddem direction.

If someone was to pour some ocean water into the river, then the waters will mix and the river will get saltier as the salt is diluted through the whole body of water. This happens because there is no gaddem barrier.

I edited my last post. Please read it and stop posting this nonsense here. It is morally wrong, and very annoying.

I'm tired of talking to you. You make me fear for the future of Nigeria. I'm going to do something else for a while.

Good bye.

Hey, @evil,
why do you suffer fools so gladly?!

tobechi20: not everything has logical interpretation or physical meaning. spirits exist. whether atheisr agree or not

yadha yadha yadha, yidi yidi yidi yidi.......

and so it goes on. always willfully ignoring reason and filling space with nonsense!

truthislight: ^^^
Your limited knowledge of science coupled with pride is a recipe for disaster.

Please answer the following questions:

1. Now, is it a necessity that planet earth revolving around the sun and held in place by their relative forces of attraction and repulsion should also spin on it axis for it to remain in its orbit?

2. Can you explain the purpose of the spining of planet earth on it axis aside the notion of day and night that is relative?

3. Aside planet earth that rotate or spins on it axis, does all other planets also spin on it axis?

4. If not, why?

5. Why does all other planet not rotating on it axis?

6. Is planet earth straith or tilted?

7. If Yes why?

8. Are all other planets known to man tilted?

9. If no why?

10. What would have been the resultant outcome if those possibilties are opposite on planet earth?
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Ok. Let me stop here for now.

If you can give answers to those ^ questions i then can guess if i am talking to a reasonable/knowledgeable person that understand the world around him or you are an abuse of internet privileges.

If you cant. Then you are a noise maker that dont deserve my time on this topic.

The answers to those ^ questions should help unthinking people to think and see the difference to what happened to planet earth that makes it different and unique when compared to other planets.

Peac

The only reason am quoting you is to make sure you can't modify the absolute nonsense you wrote above

What impudence

What absolute ignorance

I have always known that most religious posters are not worth debating. you are the epitome of such.

striktlymi: All this young sons...

#No body know which one be new id or which one be 're-incarnated' id

Yeah!

As in Striktlymi vs Muskeeto

striktlymi: I do not believe there is anthing like God of the Christians, God of the Muslims, God of the pagans etc. I believe firmly that every religion refers to the same 'God' (the first cause) but their perception of this God defers.

Now to the ish of calling heaven, hell etc fantancies...the question still props up: How do you know for sure? At best this is your opinion on the matter.

Don't you think that if this first cause can suspend the Earth in space and created the universe such that the Universe understands one language (Mathematics), why then is it difficult to admit that there might be some other realities that might not be known to the human eye e.g Heaven or may be a hell?

For all we know, this first-cause god is just a dumb force, since you have failed to ascribe attributes to it other than its being the first cause. Even science doesn't deny that cause and effect relationships exist. the first-cause force is not very different from the the big bang theory. You have failed woefully to prove the existence of yaweh or allah (the god of heaven and earth).

Its not just an opinion. Its a fact. If you say that a place exists, tell me where its: give me the address or location in space or credible witnesses. Otherwise its mere fantasy!

Any so-called reality that cannot be perceived by the human senses or modern scientific methods and does not affect our lives are not realities - they are mere fantasy

striktlymi: You asked for a definition of God...here it is:

God is the first cause who jump-started the 'process' without himself being caused.

All that we are experiencing today has some start-off point...I really do not mind if you guys choose to say that some force set the ball rolling...

The bottom line is that something or someone started all this and that something or someone is who I call the first cause or simply put: God!!! If you want evidence then, you are the evidence you seek...unless you want to say that you do not exist then my evidence can be put in the thrash bin.

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This is a rather curious definition of god

This first-cause god, how is it related to the god of moslems/christians/jews, allah or yaweh Does he have any other atributes other than being the first cause?

Did he create heaven and hell, too? Lucidly explain where these two are located, will you

When an atheist states that heaven, hell and god are fantasies he is referring to the gods of moslems/christians/jews etc; for they are the ones who claim they have been in contact with him.

striktlymi: You asked for a definition of God...here it is:

God is the first cause who jump-started the 'process' without himself being caused.

All that we are experiencing today has some start-off point...I really do not mind if you guys choose to say that some force set the ball rolling...

The bottom line is that something or someone started all this and that something or someone is who I call the first cause or simply put: God!!! If you want evidence then, you are the evidence you seek...unless you want to say that you do not exist then my evidence can be put in the thrash bin.

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Folks, please how do you remove or cancel a bad post?

ijawkid: What realities are you dealing with that theists aren't dealing with too??.......

The absence of heaven, hell and god. can you deal with it?

Logicboy03: A christian made this statement to me when we were talking about a burial some days ago;

“our African traditional religions are man made. That is why they have ridiculous practices which were probably to satisfy one occultic king or chief.....what is the point of dancing and drinking alcohol during burials? Why must they sacrifice chickens and other things? These local religions are for savages. Thank God for Westerners who brought civilization and proper religion.”


I wonder how many nigerians agree with this?

All religions are man made. Your friend's case is an example of kettle calling the pot black

truthislight: Lol.

......So, your brain is now more superior than the intelligence of its designer right?

Why cant you see how limited the human person is?.........

Sorry to cut up your post, but that is what it boils down to, essentially.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that our brain has a designer. What are the implications?
He has given us a brain has he not? Why are we afraid of using it? Why should we suspend its use as religionists like you would have us do?

Where and when did the designer tell us to stop using it?

There is no better way to use our brains than as scientists are using it now! No doubt the human person (brain) is limited but the bible or koran is no substitute for it. Any revelation must be subjected to reason (Christians would not accept moslem doctrines ,just as moslems would not accept christian doctrines because, ostensibly, they have subjected the other doctrines to reason and found them wanting, not so?).

....only we must be sure that it be a divine revelation, and that we understand it right; else we shall expose ourselves to all the extravagancy of enthusiasm, and all the error of wrong principles, if we have faith and assurance in what is not divine revelation......revelation cannot be admitted against the clear evidence of reason or pain knowledge......

-John Locke[1690]

JeSoul: LOL...the conversation is funny lol.

I don't think the message is of literal intention - but rather comically showing the danger or (appropriately titled) myopia of drawing far reaching or definitive conclusions based only on what you know because what you know is limited in so many ways.

The baby that is so faithful (the one that is not ''myopic''),where did it get it's unmyopic knowledge from?

Is there a ''bible'' for unborn children in the womb

useless story.

babies do not prepare themselves for delivery

they will both be delivered. It doesn't matter what they think; doesn't matter whether they worship mother or not:

the laws of nature will be obeyed

Our own leaders must rid themselves of superstitions before they can try the Chinese example

clemz85: odikwa very serious...

Odikwa very serious fact.

ijawkid: Look up..............

...above us, only sky....

mumumugu: If there was no heaven
there would be no hell
no fear of the devil
no God story to tell


religion will loose its taste
since no reward promised
holiness would be lie in low state
and wickedness would increase

If there was no religion we will have no choice than to believe in:

Government of the people by the people and for the people.

which results in reduction of wickedness.

ijawkid: if there was no heaven there would be no earth........

But we all know there is earth. There is no need to prove it to anybody.

Where is heaven?

Nope!

Pastor Olu T: Ife why do you do this, if you think otherwise from me cant you just be mature.

So many do not agree on this forum and no one result to insults, i have been noticing all your post you never make sense and all you do is insult. I have been discussing with thehomer on this thread for over a week and there is not one insult, please be mature or you avoid me.

This is a warning both spiritual and in writing!

Harmless threat

Hell is not real!!

The absence of heaven or hell is a reality that most people find too scary to even imagine let alone accept.