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hahn:
Na from Fb o. I was laughing when I saw the dragon part and thought to share o jare

Everything in the bible is a lie anyways. Why try and discredit something that is already totally fallible

Are u sure ''EVERYTHING'' in the bible is a lie? or are u exagerating.

oyejideogunjumo:
As I said the authorship are in doubt and besides some are mere historical books with little or no inspiration.
Some are not in consistency or in agreement wt other books.
There is a chain linking all the books in the bible,a central figure,God's Redemptive Plan for mankind through Christ Jesus.
God is Spirit.He does speaks but not necessarily speaking all the time.Satan do speak too and it takes spiritual ear to discern. The book of Machabbeaus were written during the 400 silent years between Malachi and Matthew. I know the whole story at Modin village where the Priest was asked to offer pig as sacrifice on the altar and he refused.How his seven sons started the gorrila war and won etc.
I know all what u are talking about. Bt u may not take my explanation on how they were removed.Authorship,period of writing,purpose of writing,spiritual benefits&inspirational benefits.

Not really.

kelvinrhs:
I'm not judgind but this is pure idolatry. Look at that! That looks like an idol statue. All those thinking that's mary are not ok mentally. That looks like a idol. Besides it is written. Thou shall not use an image in worshipping God. If people can be calling that mary. I think we should beware cause the end time is near

u didnt read ur bible well, if u did u will know that images littered the temple in Jerusalem and God had no problem with them.

spartan117:
So we can also infer dat night as used in d parable refers to death
So stop asking saints who are resting in d Lord to pray 4 u bcuz the've ceased from all work, u are simply disturbing dem

I hope u read that passage well, Jesus said 'i must do the work of the one who sent me, for the night comes when no man works' Jesus applied the words to himself. ur interpretation say that after death Jesus stoped interceeding.

Hope u see the silliness of misinterpreting the bible.

hahn:
The catholic church is the foundation of Christianity. Am I right?

Seems i mentioned u on d wrong thread.

Just wanted to know if u have other questions b4 i leave nairaland.

plainbibletruth:
You're not alone.
I think it's a plot contrived to achieve some dubious thing.

So do i

spartan117:
so whats ur interpretation of d parable?

The implication is that we need to make full use
of every opportunity while we have it, without letting the risks or dangers involved deter us. It means as long as (he)we (has)have healthy life (he)we (will)should do the work of his father for a time will come when we can't.

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hahn are u still there?

oyejideogunjumo:
I just delve into this portion of the site for the first time and may be for a reason.
The books were removed because the authorship were in doubt.
Many people take the undue advantage that the Bible was to be compiled into single entity to bring all junks in the names that would look acceptable.
The canonizers used their God-given experience to detect these and removed them.They are referred to as Apocryphal.
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It wasn't the canonisers who removed those books, infact those book can be found in the original list of books that were canonised. They were removed in the 16th and 17th century by the protestant heretics erm reformers.

spartan117:
Jesus christ speaking in parable said dat it is good to bear ur cross in d day 4 d night comes when no man works. So d dead donot pray! Stop asking d dead to pray 4 u when u have an advocate sitting with d father 1jn 2:1 and more over u Ave God's own spirit the holy Ghost in u whom d Bible refers to as our intercessor john 14:16 amp

Sorry that parable does not say the dead do not pray, u want to add what isnt there.

spartan117:
Bcuz they Ave passed on from this world
D dead in christ don't pray

Where did u get that from? where is it written that those who died and now live in Christ dont pray?

Demmzy15:
Toh, go and ask your predecessors on how we dealt with them, the other Palestine thread you were smoked out. Just dey watch!

i dont know abt the other thread but each time i try to discuss islam the mods move the thread to islam subforum. It is like they are scared to allow u explain ur faith.

galaxy15:
For the fact that Mary was privileged to conceive and birth Christ doesn't call for her worship. she's a human like anyone. If a miracle happens, do you give glory and honour to God or the pastor? The thing is the Pastor was privileged to be used by God. and should not be taken as a God. So think about that...

Nobody worships mary but anyone who allows himself to be used by God is deserving of honor, that is why pastors are honored and respected. The glory belongs to God but even the bible says to give honor to who it is due. If u pastor is called daddy because he answer God's call then i am suprised u dont want us to honor the one who agreed to bear d saviour of d world.

spartan117:
I don't know d scripture u are qouting but being in a feast with them doesn't translate as them being our intercessors. We have just 3 intercessors : jesus, the holy Ghost and any man that choose to intercede on our behalf. mary, moses, David, peter, paul, fr tansi or any other saint can't intercede 4 u bcuz its not their job.

YOU just said that any man may interceed, so why cant peter or paul?

hahn:
Na wa for you. I do not even know you na

Oya, what do you think about the Solomon verse?

To get the full gist i encourage u to read the book from the begining. www.catholic.org/bible/book.php?id=27&bible_chapter=1

hahn:
The catholic church is the foundation of Christianity. Am I right?

the apostles are the foundations of christianity, the catholic church is the community they founded.

hahn:
Na wa for you. I do not even know you na

Oya, what do you think about the Solomon verse?

In those verse solomon doesnt apear to be wicked instead he is telling us how the wicked think.
v1 And this is the false argument they use, 'Our life is short and dreary, there is no remedy when our end comes, no one is known to have
come back from Hades.

IN VERSE 1 he begins by telling us d way d wicked justify their sins
SEE HOW HE CONCLUDES THE CHAPTER

21 This is the way they reason, but they are misled, since their malice makes them blind. 22 They do not know the hidden things of God, they do not hope for the reward of holiness, they do not believe in a reward for blameless souls. 23 For God created human beings to be immortal, he made them as an image of his own nature; 24 Death came into the world only through the Devil's envy, as those who belong to him find
to their cost. www.catholic.org/bible/book.php?bible_chapter=2&id=27

hahn:
Christianity sprung from the catholic church. Whatever comes after that is an adulteration

Besides, you didn't address the King Solomon issue. I don't know why you sound so angry. Maybe you need to kneel down and pray for patience to have a decent conversation

Another proof that religion doesn't teach manners

As for the wisdom of solomon, that book is also found in the catholic bible and the passage quote has a lot of parallels to the passion of Christ.

hahn:
Christianity sprung from the catholic church. Whatever comes after that is an adulteration

Besides, you didn't address the King Solomon issue. I don't know why you sound so angry. Maybe you need to kneel down and pray for patience to have a decent conversation

Another proof that religion doesn't teach manners

1st i apologise for my outburst and lack of patience, and yes maybe i'll pray for more charity in discussions, i am not angry but i hate repeating myself i had already responded to ur post and asking me to respond to it again seemed like u were not reading what i wrote but instead trying to fraustrate me.

ooshinibos:
not true at all , have read the Bible ? ..once you read it ..you will understand why statues are not permitted and worshipped ..Mary herself will be upset with the her statue all of the place

Religious statues are all over the bible... it is worshipping them that is wrong and catholic dont worship statues.

hahn:
Cool

Do you mind commenting on the points in the op?

Do you have an eye problem? or is it comprehension? is the op not address in the post u quoted?

Your op say the catholic church removed some books of the bible and listed them, i responded by telling you that tobit, sirac, macabee...etc are all in the catholic bible, the catholic church didnt remove them, it was the protestants.

Do u understand that i have addressed d points in the op?

The easter issue isnt abt true date vs false date but about two apostolic traditions.

some apostles remembered d resurrection of Jesus 3 days after the jewish passover other do it any sunday after the jewish passover until the xtians abandoned d jewish calender.
This difference in tradition meant diffferent church celebrate pasha a few days after each other.

today na station of the cross, make we no forget oh.

galaxy15:
nonsense Cultism. I'm a christian but will not support this rubbish. This is a sign from the pit of hell. one simple question, is it Mary that shed her blood for you? or Jesus? so why's the blood coming from her. Also, in this present day, why will Jesus have to show his blood before you believe. the blood has been shed and has fulfilled it's purpose so any other blood is a satanic sign. Don't let your Emotions lead you astray. the fact that you're a Christian doesn't mean you shouldn't use your senses as Christians . Use your brain!!!

did ur own Jesus fall from the sky?

naijaent:
Is that what the bible told or you're just trying to use common sense on religious matters. And how does the servants running to the mother of Christ have to do with praying to the mother of Christ. Can you see how you guys just pick a part of the bible to buttress an unrelated point.

To pray is old english for to ask. If the servants are allowed to ask marys intercession what prevents us.

spartan117:
D last time I followed my dad to his catholic church for a special service we were asked to kneel before a statue of mary before exiting d church, I saw it as idolatory and decided not to kneel.
Mary deserves honour just like so many other Bible character, I personally wud like to honour David bcuz I've taken him as my mentor but however I can't ask him to intercede on my behalf bcuz I have d holy spirit 4 dat d Bible calls him our intercessor and d Bible also told us dat jesus christ is seated at d right hand of d father making intercession 4 us.
The reference d Bible gave to past saints is in hebrews 12:1 according to dat scripture dey are simply watching us like tv they are not interceding 4 us bcuz Dats not their job its d job of d holy Ghost

Did you miss the part in hebrew that says we are in a feast with them

naijaent:
Here exactly is the problem. You're not supposed to ask her to intercede for you because the bible says that no one coming to God except through Jesus and that is why we as Christians say "In Jesus name". Nowhere in the bible did they ask you to ask Mary to help you intercede.

In the same bible we are made aware that people may interceed for each other. it is called intercession.

Shafiiimran99:
U don't worship her but u do need down in front of her status everyday, if that action is not worship then, how do u define that?

I also kneel in front of my bible is that also worship?

ooshinibos:
Seun this is unchristian stuff and it does not represent Christianity at all , it should not be allowed on this platform ... if it was Islamic ..you will not let it be published , rightly so , ..why do you hate Christianity so much seun ..

Images are part and parcel of christianity, they predate the christian bible.

Hahn, there are two types of bibles in the west, the catholic bible and the protestant bible. The catholic bible has the books above and they have been so since the 4th century as presented in the council of cathage and hippo, it was confirmed again and officially closed in the council of trent in the 16th century.
Where when protestanism began the reformers decided to mutilate the bible since is didnt support them so they removed some books about the 16th and 17th century.

It was the protestants that removed them so when next u met ur pastor ask him why?

All those books u mentioned are in the catholic bible, That is why catholics have 73 books in their bible while protestants have 66 books in their bibles.

It is the protestants who removed the books.