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BeardedMeat:
My friend quiet!!! He who alleges must prove! Too much telemundo in your empty skull already.

And you my friend are unaware of nigerian law specifically EFCC ART 18(3), which says that "the fact that an accused person is in possession of pecuniary resources or property for which he cannot satisfactorily account and which is disproportionate to his know sources of income..." is considered proof that d asset should be forfieted

erico2k2:
Nop in a sane country the prosecutors would ha e to establish a case of fraud or corruption . Accused is to defend .

This isn't true! If you own huge properties that is disproportion to your income then, those properties may be forfieted in accordance with EFFCC ACT ART 19(1)A

freeze001:
Having or possessing any sum of money is not automatically a crime. To establish any sum of money as a proceed of crime, the prosecution must prove what offence was committed that gave rise to that sum or in the case of the judge, must tie that sum to a particular case and the giver of such a sum. The prosecution will also need to show that the judgment given occasioned a miscarriage of justice which would otherwise have not occurred but for the said sum in his possession being claimed as some form of inducement.

I hope this helps u understand how the law works so you don't keep demonising the judiciary/courts. The EFCC and DSS are aware of the stringent requirements of the law but still fly off half-cocked then unlearned persons fill the space with undeserved sympathy and the erroneous belief that the court has condoned corruption.

In Nigerian anti corruption law, d prosecution only needs 2 prove that the wealth in question is above the means of d accused

bearing now the name that is above every name, he reigns in glory in heaven. His people enjoy the dignity and freedom of the children of God, in whose hearts the Holy Spirit dwells as in a temple. They have as their law the new commandment of loving as Christ himself has loved us. They have as their goal the kingdom of God, begun on earth by God himself and destined to grow until it is also brought to perfection by him at the end of time, when Christ, our life, will appear, and creation itself will be freed from slavery to corruption and take on the freedom of the glory of God’s children. This messianic people, then, though it does not in fact embrace all mankind and often seems to be a tiny flock, is yet the enduring source of unity, hope and salvation for the whole human race. It is established by Christ as a communion of life, of love and of truth; it is also used by him as an instrument for the redemption of all, and is sent out into the whole world as the light of the world and the salt of the earth- L.G

See, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel and the house
of Judah ... I will plant my law within them and inscribe it in their hearts. I will be their God and they shall be my people ... All shall know me, from the least to the greatest, says the Lord.

It was Christ who established this new
covenant, the new testament in his blood,
calling into being, from Jews and Gentiles, people that was to form a unity, not in human fashion but in the Spirit, as the new people of God. Those who believe in Christ, reborn not of corruptible but of incorruptible seed through the word of the living God, not from the flesh but from water and the Holy Spirit, are constituted in the fullness of time as a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy
nation, a people God has made his own
..., once no people but now the people
of God. This messianic people has Christ as its head:
Christ who was given up for our sins and rose again for our justification;...

luckyCO:
Jesus was talking to Apostle Peter.
But the rock there is symbolic. He know something that is why he was given keys.
It is that he know made him qualified to have the key.
They is door of salvation.
Peter has used the key to open the door waiting for the time Christ will stand up from mercy seat.
So it is not about peter and head of christianity,it is about salvation Christ gave us.

So jesus said you are peter to peter also on this rock i will build my church... to himself also will give u d keys... to peter

Does that sound coherent to you, how can some jump from talk to somebody then change it to himself and then go back to the other person while linking the statement with 'kai' meaning also, and... Without indicating the change in speech, infact all thru Jesus used the 2nd person singular 'you' not d 1st person, is dat coherent to u?

Anyone in the ibadan area... please help me confirm if there is a marionite catholic church in the area...i stumbled on a papal bull saying at least one should exist there, just checking if it does.

luckyCO:
We have two bible ref where Christ made two statements that got pharisees/people of this age confused.

Destroy this house in 3days I will build it up-Jews trapped but not all jews.

You peter,upon this rock I will build my church - gentiles trapped but not all gentiles.

Both statement he was not talking about what people think but by devine revelation He was speaking something else using what he was speaking about (what people can see) as a symbolic reference.

So who was Jesus talking to when he said 'i'll give u d keys of the kingdom'?

luckyCO:
Ok thanks for brininging it out.
I believe orignal greak/hebrew contains a conjuction "And", "This rock" instead of replacing this rock with peter?

Let us look at the greek, [the brackets are
around the word "you" & "Rock/Peter"]
Mt 16:18 καγὼ δέ [σοι] λέγω ὅτι [σὺ] εἶ [ Πέτρος ] καὶ ἐπὶ ταύτῃ τῇ πέτρᾳ οἰκοδομήσω μου τὴν ἐκκλησίαν καὶ πύλαι ᾅδου οὐ κατισχύσουσιν αὐτῆς.
[σοι] = you, 2nd person singular, as in I Jesus (1st person singular) give you Peter, (2nd person singular)
[σὺ] = you, 2nd person singular [Πέτρος ]= Peter/Rock
[ ἐκκλησίαν ] = Church,
THE CONJUNTION IS;
καὶ=and, even, also, namely.

So it can literally be translated as
...YOU are peter ALSO this rock upon it build my church.

there is no way in d greek text to escape it.

Divorce him, once physical abuse sets in and isn't ending, divorce him.

thesicilian:
Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this. If they decide to keep quiet becauyit doesn't concern them, then it may be their turn next.

Protestants are 0.2% of xtian churches in russia, they are also a minority, they do not have the influence, population or the power to affect these things or lobby with success, they are also considered foriegn religion in russia. and d jw also preach against them as part of d mystery of iniquity.

The church with the power to lobby in russia is d russian orthodox church with 87% of xtian population, the jw also hate them and preach against them, that way they made enemies with those who can help. The orthodox also dislike jw and accuse them of "Jehovists are a very closed group that affects society negatively, breaks up families, and arranges persecution
of those who desert their organisation" www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170327b.html
So i doubt they would help, d dislike seems mutual.

thesicilian:
I hope other Christians in the country like the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this. If they decide to keep quiet becauyit doesn't concern them, then it may be their turn next.

not very many people can lobby for the jw, First the catholics usually like carrying issue like this, but in russia catholic are a minority xtian church and have a 0.1% of christians population and have 0.00... of general russia population, the russian govt are even anti catholic. In April 2002, Bishop Jerry Mazur was stripped of his visa, forcing d appointment of a new bishop for that diocese. In 2002, 5 Catholic priests were denied visas to return to Russia, construction of a new cathedral was blocked in Pskov, and a church in southern Russia was shot at. They refused to register another catholic church and nothin happend even after court case was won, we also know jw dislike catholics, they wont accept help frm d 'LovePeddler of babylon'.

thesicilian:
How is a harmless Christian sect like JW an extremist organization? I hope other Christians in the country like the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this.

I dont support this, it is very wrong, freedom of religion is a fundamental right.

That said, jw are considered 'extremist' in russia not because they kill people or engage in violence but becos the russian state considers their teaching to be extreme.
Russia is a secular state in name only, in reality it is heavily affiliated to the Russia Orthodox Church...we kw jw do not play well with other church and considers them to be the babylon...etc the russian state believe those views to be intolerant, divisive and extreme to society in general and capable of fermenting hate, dislike...among the populace. Add that to the fact that jw are told not to vote, sing national anthem or serve in military...thus they are considered unpatriotic.

Pita99:
okay I sea pls do u have any link for me to see more about the bill and know more about it? Forgive me o , am just knowing about this nw, if it is what u said it is about then the senate has to pass it no matter what, Nigeria comes first . Our people are suffering.

other important bills include the Nigerian Ports and Harbour Bill of 2017, aimed at improving efficiency, transparency and accountability in ports across the country. Other bills that are supposedly priority for the Senate and Acts
for amendment include the Petroleum Industry Bill, Public Procurement Act Amendment, National Development Bank of Nigeria(Establishment Bill), Nigerian Roads Fund (Establishment Bill), National Transportation Commission Act, Investments & Securities Act, Warehouse Receipts
Act, Federal Competition Bill, National Road Authority Bill and Customs and Excise Management Act, they have abandoned these pressing issues all becos they want sssaraki court case to be dropped.

Pita99:
which ease to do business bills are U talking about? I don't even get what ur saying, explain

Pita99:
okay I sea pls do u have any link for me to see more about the bill and know more about it? Forgive me o , am just knowing about this nw, if it is what u said it is about then the senate has to pass it no matter what, Nigeria comes first . Our people are suffering.

Pita99:
which ease to do business bills are U talking about? I don't even get what ur saying, explain

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2017/02/22/ease-of-doing-business-presidency-mandates-nassembly-to-pass-crucial-laws-within-60-days/ https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/opinion/a-new-approach-of-doing-business-in-nigeria/190395.html

From a commentary on the psalms by Saint Augustine, bishop (Ps. 85, 1: CCL 39, 1176-1177) Jesus Christ prays for us and in us and is the object of our prayers God could give no greater gift to men than to make
his Word, through whom he created all things, their head and to join them to him as his members, so that the Word might be both Son of God and son of man, one God with the Father, and one man with all men. The result is that when we speak with God in prayer we do not separate the Son from him, and when the body of the Son prays it does not separate its head from itself: it is the one Savior of his body, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who prays for us and in us and is himself the object of our prayers. He prays for us as our priest, he prays in us as our
head, he is the object of our prayers as our God. Let us then recognize both our voice in his, and his voice in ours. When something is said, especially in prophecy, about the Lord Jesus Christ that seems to belong to a condition of lowliness unworthy of God, we must not hesitate to ascribe this condition to one who did not hesitate to unite himself with us. Every creature is his servant, for it was through him that every creature came to be.

We contemplate his glory and divinity when we listen to these words: In the beginning was th Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him nothing was made. Here we gaze on the divinity of the Son of God, something supremely great and surpassing all the greatness of his creatures. Yet in other parts of Scripture we hear him as one sighing, praying, giving praise and thanks. We hesitate to attribute these words to him because our minds are slow to come down to his humble level when we have just been contemplating him in his divinity. It is as though we were doing him an injustice in acknowledging in a man the words of one with whom we spoke when we prayed to God; we are usually at a los and try to change the meaning. Yet our minds find nothing in Scripture that does not go back to him, nothing that will allow us to stray from him. Our thoughts must then be awakened to keep their vigil of faith. We must realize that the one whom we were contemplating a short time before in his nature as God took to himself the nature of a servant; he was made in the likeness of men and found to be a man like others; he humbled himself by being obedient even to accepting death; as hung on the cross he made the psalmist’s words his own: My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? We pray to him as God, he prays for us as a servant. In the first case he is the Creator, in the second a creature. Himself unchanged, he took to himself our created nature in order to change it, and made us one man with himself, head and body. We pray then to him, through him, in him, and we speak along with him and he along with us.

Pita99:
which ease to do business bills are U talking about? I don't even get what ur saying, explain

the ease of doing business bills are suppose to kick start our ecomomy by harmonising taxes, improving credit etc, they include the Credit Bureau Bills and the Collateral Transactions Security bill which was suppose to increase and improve medium scale businesses, the senate promised to pass them in 60 days and yet up till date they haventt been passed, the senate as disturbing about wearing uniform instead of passing economy improving bills.

Pita99:
thats more reason for us to diversify

and yet d senate has refused to pass the ease of doing business bills.

Pita99:
your still talking about oil, my friend Nigeria can't keep surviving on oil alone

And yet every recession in nigeria is oil based.

FrancisTony:
Quite insightful! Thanks for sharing!

u're welcome

luckyCO:
I would wish that matt 16:18 says "And I also say to you that you are peter, and upon you I will build my church..."

You will notice comma before "And upon this rock I will build my church..." to show He has started making another point. Ask yourself what is THIS ROCK? You will find it in the bible.

Christ was not pointing at peter as he was saying this, Just to cause seperation between the true Gospel and the false gospel,gospel of man and Gospel of Christ,he put commas there that only wise will understand.

Those who follow man will quote to justify to their damnation ie spirit of delusion.

Peter was given the key and he used it and open the door for Jews on the Pantecost and 3000 came in. He also opened the door of the gospel to gentiles and we came in.

That door is still open waiting for you to come in till the master stands up.

there is no comma in d original hebrew or greek.

Pita99:
But is it only the Senate that's causing the bad relationship? When the Exucutive wants to dictate everything like it's not democracy then there are bound to be problems. The Writer is just one sided , you expect the legislature to be licking their as*? This the beauty of democracy, there is no room for dictators sorry.

Is it d president that is shifting the benchmark for oil? Did u even read the op?

BabaCommander:
Funny how u people twist and turn every issue...just like liars. I said get a bible and read it. The Romans didn't write the scripture, they only corrupted it with their pagan rituals. The English protestants translated the bible to exposed Roman Catholic idolatory. Need i say that the practised con men renamed their idols with the names of apostles and their images. Now go and tell your Father confessor what i said.

Actually it was d catholic that gave u a bible, they chose d books and put them there.

BabaCommander:
Thankfully, you didn't mention holy Mary and the hundred of thousand others perpetually pleading for you. I think it's Roman Catholics that should be urged to get a bible and read it.

catholics actually compiled what u call the bible and gave it to all, so they already have bibles and read it.

OLAADEGBU:
This is for Christians who are committed to the task of the Great commission.

You guys won't preach to muslims or pagans, no! your sole interest is to poach member from churches older than urs.

you are not adding to God's kingdom, u are adding to ur pastors business\investment.
repent.

OLAADEGBU:
This is for Christians who are committed to the task of the Great commission.

That isnt the great commission, the great commission is to make disciples of all nation not to poach people who already have christ and take them to ur church.

doyinbaby:
It takes the grace of God for a catholic to give his life to Christ ,.....those Catholics and their church doctrines and traditions hen.....
.with God all things are possible

CatholicS have already given their lives to christ.

OLAADEGBU:
Don't throw the baby out with the dirty water. To you the cartoons may appear to be dirty water but the historical documents you seek for are embedded therein.

Oya please quote the historical documents naw!

OLAADEGBU:
Yeah right, like Mariolatry.

Mariolatry is a sin and is condemned in catholicism, try again.

OLAADEGBU:
We are saved by faith alone in Christ alone which is by grace. See Ephesians 2:8-9 for details.

I cant find any of those 'alone' in my bible, u made them all up or u just copied the heresy of martin luther?

OLAADEGBU:
Christianity is a relationship with Christ while Roman Catholicism is historical religion.

Define religion pls.

OLAADEGBU:
Being religious will not get you to heaven righteousness would.

Be truely christian, which is by definition religious will get me to heaven.