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Please ask them again.

aolawale025:
How can you neglect warri, PH and calabar ports and expect inland port to be active? When the bulk importers are from the SE?

I toally agree with you!

meccuno:
Nigeria was not created to make headway

"We should be to Africa what America is to the world but we are now a subject of ridicule"

Absolutely agree with you. We are reaping the fruits of quota-system and federal character based political leadership in the last 45 years since the end of the civil war.

temmypotter:
The foolishness of PMB's media and publicity team, How is this bit of news useful at this very unfortunate and dark time in our history, A country that was to be the pride of Africa has become a joke, We should be to Africa what America is to the world but we are now a subject of ridicule.

Nigeria , the most populous black nation is at the mercy of a nation with less than 60million people, begging for our lives, Disheartening!

We can hate the likes of Abacha and IBB all we want, but in their time, nations respected us, feared us even. Sad!

Is there any correlation between development and being landlocked?

Ekpeitit:
Yes you do but you will never get it because you are slaves.
Stop using reverse psychology ,we know how desperate you want it.
Okoro people will never smell the presidency of this great country, go to your landlocked Biafra, we will soround you and still enslave you.

So drug-trafficking, human trafficking, kidnapping and prostitution are the only crimes in Nigeria? And are all these so-called Igbo crimes the reason why Nigeria is a failed nation? Are these Igbo criminals responsible for the looting of hundreds of billions of dollar earned by Nigeria in the last four decades? It interesting when a professor in criminality calls an ordinary graduate assistant in criminality a criminal. Remove the log in your eyes first before attempting to remove the speck in the eyes of Ndi-igbo

lilytender:
Financially viable region through drugs trafficking, human trafficking, kidnapping and prostitution. Let's see how this Christmas will be in Igbo land now that 76 of your criminal brothers have been arrested by FBI and EFCC plus interpol is chasing several others OR have you people gotten approval for the postponement of this year's Christmas?

An idle mind is indeed a devils' workshop.

Off all the existential crisis confronting Nigeria, whether an Igboman will become Nigerian President or not is the one issue that bogs your mind. Blackman -particularly those found in Nigeria - is a colossal disappointment!

BBBmall25:
Sadly, Am Not A Yoruba. But U Speak For Urself! Other Igbos Have Their Needs. So Man, Ur Opinion Ain't Count Bro. Stop The Cry And Empty Chestbeating#Bbbmal25#onelove...

" they will deploy every illegal means (see their overwhelming crimes) to achieve their aim. And if that still does not bring down the competition, now they demand separation!"

I am intrigued by your comment about Igbos and crimes. Are you making an emphatic statement that when it comes to Igbos and Yorubas with regards to criminality in Nigeria, Igbos are more criminally minded than your kinsmen?

rosebowl01:
Good point.

See what I don't get about SE people is admitted, they are driven and hardworking. They are competitive and willing to put in the effort to get results, they have been both a source of pride and curse to the country but:

1. If for their hard work, stats show that they are ahead of others, they don't focus on enjoying and appreciating their rewards, instead they burn through their time mocking others. In other words, their primary motivation for the hard work is just so they can tell you how you are useless, and they are blessed.

2. If for their hard work, stats show that others are still ahead of them, they will start throwing tantrums, blaming everything on God's green earth but themselves. In the end, if they cannot legally and legitimately beat you in a particular industry/economy, out of desperation, they will deploy every illegal means (see their overwhelming crimes) to achieve their aim. And if that still does not bring down the competition, now they demand separation!

3. Given the two above, using the the system, the other populace (especially northerners) has decided to play the game to their advantage and just cheat Igbos also using legitimate and ILLEGITIMATE means to get ahead. This now create double wahala and wailing for Igbos as they now have to constantly and eternally complain of the wrongs and injustices (true in some cases, and false in many others) that is being meted out to them.

In this point raised by the Op, Igbos are good at many things ie Sports, small to medium scale businesses, education, general work ethic and so many others that are too numerous to mention, but they clearly are below the SW in economic terms and developing a society. This has always been the case even before colonial times. Let's learn to appreciate on our strengths and work to improve on our area of weaknesses rather than spend time hating and throwing propaganda, false data etc everywhere.

Thanks.

What factors rule out investment decisions in the SE?

In a true federation - which Yorubas fought for in the last 20 years - will this factors even exist?

In a divided Nigeria, will these factors ever exist?

plaindealer:
Sad irony.

They are beating chest instead of asking tough questions like why the company is in the SW to start with.

I don't even know why they think ibo related businesses in the SW are doing the SW a favor when in fact it's strictly business decisions based on so many factors, factors that rule out investment decisions in the SE.

Why this "I better pass my neighbour" fight between the Igbos and Yorubas - two ethnic groups that ought to be leading light of Black Race and African had British colonialism not lumped them together in a mere geographical expression?

Are these parameters the true test of the capacity and capability of these two ethnic groups/region?

Is it fair to even draw economic comparison between the SW and SE given the fact that the SE region and its economy where completely erased during the 30-month civil war and most instructively, the post-Biafra political and economic paradigm that emerged centralized the commanding heights of economy to the exclusive benefit of SW?

In a failed entity like Nigeria, what is the glory in having the biggest IGR .....? Has it reflected on the life of the indigenes in those states?

Iblad0994:
Yes the total debt shows the SW owes more than the SE.

I created the thread to debunk the earlier stance of some guys on the other thread that the SW owe far more debt (like double or triple) compared to the SE. On that thread they depict that all the SW states owes more debt individually than the SE states which is false because they only look at external debt.

Looking at this thread you will see that Abia and Imo owes more debt than Ogun and Oyo when you look at it as a whole, but the other thread suggested that Ogun owes more debt than them because they purposely use only the domestic debt for the metrics.

Ondo and Oyo IGR exceed that of any SE states, whereas the former lies propagated by some Igbo guys was that Anambra generate more IGR than the SW excluding Lagos.

@your bolded statement, what do you mean by the population of people living in the SW? Is IGR only dependent on population? That means Kano, Kaduna, and Katsina should have the highest IGR going by your analogy.

I will continue to say this, the SW is a region that is successful and believe in silent achievements, Ogun state will soon overcome rivers state in IGR generating in the next 5 years if we judge by the growth trajectory of Ogun.

Even Ondo state is doing really fine, it got high IGR and low debt. If Dangote had situated his refinery in Ondo state, then that state would have been the new bride of the SW after Ogun.

Please can you share the statistics from your research?

immortalityk:
I'm in Ogun state and I research a lot and find out about statistics in Nigeria
From what ive seen its not favouring Yoruba's at all
I could care less about some stupid presidency

Please what is the thrust of your posting? The man who made the observation is a northerner. Why disparage his comments and turn it into Igbo-Yoruba fight?

immortalityk:
Igbos and propaganda
Who dominate boxing,Yoruba
Who dominate tennis, Yoruba
The richest female football player,Yoruba
You people use the back of your skull to talk sometime

She is not less competent. She is incompetent!

python2gbera:
Like play, like play, dem collect Finance from SW.
I dare say, that was a big slap on SW. I find it very insulting that Zainab retains the position ahead of a SW nominee. With all due respect, she is less competent on the job. Neither was a female minister from the SW. What a big joke!


Python2

I totally agree with you!

SimSify:
All are round pegs in square hole..synonymous with the presidency..

Appointing Aides for compensation..
Most of them does not even know what to advice the presidency on..

Does the presidency take advice from this people?

Do this people advice the presidency or they advice Kyari and then he interprets the advice to the joy of Buhari?

Do this people even have the guts, damning all circumstances to tell the presidency the truth like mama Taraba the former women affairs minister ?

I think this one's are just there to sing melodious song to the hears of Bubu!

Exactly! You can never see a minister in a developed country in such ecstatic mood like Akpabio.

correctyourself:
He is happy because he has being given the chance to eat, the office is going to be family business, nothing more. You can't see a minister dancing to celebrate in a developed Country, when he should be concerned with the challenges ahead.

Bighead9:
Biafra would've been a jungle by now. Cause of the high numbers of Drug pushers, Armed Robbers, Ritualist, Kidnappers, Baby factories, Prostitution, Fake everything, Scammers e.t.c
Only the strongest would've been able to survive in Biafra. Libya would've been a Child's play compared to the unrest and Terrorism in Biafra.

Did you really understand the thrust of the posting?

Prompto:
The reasoning of a typical foolish Igbo. Ojukwu as the right to attack the West but the West is suppose to Sidon look when being attacked. How your father is yet to commit suicide over your abundantly incomprehensible foolishness is a mystery.

Please how did Ojukwu attack the west? Was the west an indpependent country headed by a Yoruba or a part of Nigeria that declared war on Biafra? Duriing war, where do you attack,- the capital or an outpost?

YorubaHero12:
Well let me reply your question based on my own subjective reasoning.

1. Yoruba joined the war when the Biafra military advanced to Ore and had their eyes on the takeover of Lagos, so the Yorubas gotta defend our territory.

2. Well as at that time, the Yoruba founding fathers thought that Nigeria would have been good staying as one coz things are not bad like this. Remeber pre war, Awolowo built the first stadium, first TV station, first skyscraper, free education and so on. So Yoruba do not have much incentive or reason to breakout of Nigeria.

3. Well the question depends. Although I will say based on my own subjective reasoning, the Yoruba nation would have been better if we have our own separate Oduduwa country. So you may be right by your theory in the third question.

But I want you to understand that each tribe has their motive and way of engaging situations, the Yorubas believe in strategic analysis of situation and always exhibit some form of restraints to situation before reaching a decision. Whether Oduduwa republic will come will depend on a lot of consensus among the Yoruba people and before then we will strive to succeed in the union called Nigeria.

I hope you get your Biafra soon tho coz a whole people cannot be held against their will in a union. Just that you’re using an ineffective means to advocate for the Biafran succession. Time will tell tho

Yoruba joined the war when the Biafra military advanced to Ore and had their eyes on the takeover of Lagos, so the Yorubas gotta defend our territory.

Thats not true. I want to give you a second chance to educate yourself and acknowledgehistorical facts. To help you the first shot was fired by Federal Force on July 6, 1967 in the then Ogoja province.

Was Awolowo a civilian or part of the Gowon's administration?
When did Biafra march into Ore enroute Lagos?

bluke:
they also fought to free their (yoruba)people.
you dont go to sleep when your roof is on fire.
Ojukwu's downfall was his attack on west.

Please they fought to free Yoruba people from who?

How come both of them lamented about the post-Biafra domination of the Nigeria by the north? Obsanjo has been shouting about the Fulanization of Nigeria lately?

YorubaHero12:
Lol, your reply sound too incoherent for me to make sense of it to give you a dignifying reply.

War is a situation where maximum force is used against the opponent, war is not a place where you give biscuit and Pepsi to your opponent. In war you crush the enemy with every tactics you can get, whether by alliance or by tactical approach and that’s what the Nigerian army did.

There are lot of foreign mercenaries that supported Biafra and I have supported that fact with reference on the third page of this thread. Ojukwu was like Nnamdi Kanu then, he started the war through propaganda and he was all around the place granting interviews to international news channel lying that he will crush the federal government and get Biafra in small time.

I know the Nigerian army did wrong coz they crushed you guys in your millions, but seeing the current generation of Igbos and how they behave made me understood that what the Nigerian army did back then has some justification. You guys chestbeat a lot and claim superiority with propaganda while in reality you are NOTHING.

If the war had continued without Ojukwu surrendering the Igbos would have been exterminated coz the war is already genocide coz you stood no chance.

Your grandfathers will tell you about the heroic display of the mighty Yorubas within the federal army and the tactical approach Awolowo employed to make the war end so soon, or else the Hausa army is bent on killing you all to the last man.

Hairy chest beaters that surrendered without any option. Your territory got reduced to just 5 small states and economic power given to the south south. You’ve been slaves in nigeria since then coz you are always asking for liberation from the union. Even Ijaw learnt that when Dokubo termed a whole Igbo tribe his Slave.s.

Why did Yorubas fight the war?

Why did Awolowo join the north to fight against Biafra instead of fighting for the freedom of Yorubas from the geographical expression called Nigeria?

Why didn't Awolowo - and Yoruba nation - allow the Igbos and the northerners to settle their political enmity?

Is the Yoruba nation better off today in post-Biafra Nigeria than they would have been in post-Biafra Oduduwa Republic?

plaindealer:
Benjamin Adekunle

The Black Scorpion.

A real military tactician, talented and gifted soldier and a PATRIOT.

Is that the final story of Adekunle you know. Have you read his civil war story by his son? Adekunle died a painful and sad death full of regrets for fighting in the civil war.

Badgers14:
Agriculture, Agriculture my foot

Countries are advancing in IT and technology.. this ones are here saying Agriculture agriculture

I thought he went to Abuja to seek assistance in upgrading Imo airport to International airport to create more jobs etc. Or seek federal funding help improve infrastructures in Imo state... he is seeking assistance in Agriculture...smh

Why would he seek assistance in upgrading Imo Airport into International airport. Is that the #1 issue facing Ndi-Imo?

learnine:
Did anyone notice they are/were all leaders of under-developed countries?

Those so-called undeveloped countries are far better that Nigeria in all Human Development Index.

jrusky:
You see my people again? Chinonzo and Ifeanyi in another man's land and when I speak against all these shameful attitude they come attacking me but when a Yoruba man did same in his Yoruba land they come here bashing the Yoruba calling them all kind of names.

Pls my post is not about creating tribal nonsense but I'm talking to my people let's join hands together to defeat crime in our people mind it's a collective responsibility going around beating chest can t do nothing no pride in be known for crime no joy in it abeg.

What is the moral of your posting?

Is that all you can offer?

My question for you: If Nigeria had practiced true federalism or if Biafra had survived as an independent nation, are you saying that that multinational companies - particularly the oil companies - doing business in defunct South East/Biafra would have their headquarters in Lagos instead of South East/Biafra where their oil prospecting and drilling activities occur?

Second, if it is about having a different kind of attitude that allows business to thrive, why have Yorubas not replicated the miracle of Lagos in other south western states like Ogun, Oyo, Ekiti , Ondo and Osun? I tire for your analysis - a supposedly educated and informed Nigerian.

tete7000:
While you might seem to make some seemingly valid point, you have to realise there are reasons why that has not happened and might not happen anytime soon. It is about people in other areas having a different kind of attitude, attitude that allows business opportunities to thrive just like op mentioned. People often claim that it is political gang up that made Lagos develop to the detriment of other places but when you realise that no one can hold you captive without your consent, then we begin to realise there will be need for attitudinal change in others for the development being sought to come.
The multinationals did not just find themselves in Lagos for no reason, it is because the place provides the peaceful and business-conducive environment they desire. Even you won't dare to set up your business in a highly restive and violent area.

Thank you my friend for such insights! The piece is a pedestrian - comparing apples and oranges!

Princedapace:
No big deal. Lagos is just shining because she is in the mist of losers.. Nigeria is not a working country that is why we glory lagos..

Lagos mates in other countries have gone passed this level. And there is nothing too extra that lagos is doing.

Lagos is the main gate into and outside nigeria.. Not even abuja.. That alone is the reason for the little strive she is getting.. Take that away, lagos will turn to like other states..

Anything that comes into nigeria passes thru lagos.. That is the selling point. Other states don't have that.. Stop comparing lagos with other states..

That's why they are called sophisticated morons!

Arondizuogu:
I love your first two paragraphs. One man controlling a state with PH.d, BSC and MBS holders ooo... Yoruba's are supposed to be the most educated for God's sake. I expected this from Abia but not from Lagos!

Smithkafors:
These are the so called men that will take Nigeria to promise land....indeed we are doomed.

Indeed we are doomed!

BALLOSKI:
Here's the founder of unitary system of government.



But na him people de scream marginalization pass. They always forget how they helped to create the message we are in today - but turn around to blame everyone for their woes.

Ironsi is not the founder of unitary system of government. Gowon/Awolowo government destroyed Nigeria's federalism. Go educate yourself for the benefit of your unborn generation.

dingbang:
If ajaokuta steel can be revived, then Nigerian airways can also be tevived too

And who told you Ajaokuta has been revived?

Aroyehunkayode:
I am really surprise at your comment,i am a Yoruba man and I can tell you that the VP is not a disgrace to Yoruba but a pride of Yoruba people,even as a Christian am also proud of him,if he has gone to Jerusalem who will attend to all his duties,you don't know what you are saying man....

" ,i am a Yoruba man and I can tell you that the VP is not a disgrace to Yoruba but a pride of Yoruba "

He is a pride to the Yorubas because an average Yoruba man is unprincipled and lily-livered. Can you imagine if we switch place and Buhari is vice and Osibanjo is the president and the Fulanis are the victims of this genocide?

The presidency will be in turmoil as Buhari will not allow peace to reign in Aso Rock.

SLIDEwaxie:


You don't knw anything, I know. But the worst part is when u, like your poepke think you know all.

Let's see:

The VP should put on clothes and go to Jerusalem to represent Nigeria

Oh, let's see another one:

He should call a pic his phone and order the IG to move up north.. since he's the Commander in Chief of armed forces

Oh, let's see more of your stupidity by calling my people a coward:

I am sure it's awolowo that ran to the then ivory coast when the shit hit the fans

Infact, after asking for war recently, it was Osinbajo, not the pig, Kanu, that abandoned his people and ran away

Lol...

Shall we see more of your idiocy?

Kanu and Ojukwu are more couragoeus and fearless than your Osibanjo. Osibanjo and co shouted federalism and resource control when they were in opposition. You would have expected them to spearhead this ideals having gotten power. Instead they have abandoned these ideals for esau's pot of porridge. On the hand, Buhari does not shy from any opportunity to shoot down restructuring. He did it few days ago during the visit of Niger Delta Traditional Rulers to Aso Rock. Your man Osibanjo cannot even defend while in power a cause he once championed as an opposition member!

I don't blame, in your worldview, empty words is more powerful than action!

http://punchng.com/proponents-of-restructuring-have-personal-agenda-buhari-says/

Indomixx:
God bless u. You just spoke my mind

Also add that he is a Yorubaman - the sophisticated tribe that trade political freedom and political independence for crumbs of office and political tokenism!