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"The animosity between the Igbos and Yorubas is borne out of the fact that the Yorubas thought if they don’t align with the north the Igbo will. Same thing the Igbo thought if they don’t align will the north, the Yorubas will. It’s just a political game by the leaders and we are just pawn in the game."

Your comments on this issue is level-headed and issue-oriented. But l totally disagree with you on the assertion above. The foundation of animosity between the Igbos and Yorubas is the deceitful role Awolowo willingly and purposely chose to play in the Nigeria - Biafra Civil War that should have been an opportunity for the south to permanently deal with the Hausa/Fulani nuisance created by the British Colonialist.

LegendHero:
I’ve always wondered also why 95% of Nigerians making wave in diaspora are either Yorubas or Igbos. We are both intelligent tribes with thirst for success and with some sort of intellectual abilities embedded in our DNA.

The game the North is playing is the actual game Britain played against Africa. Mix the intellectuals and the less-educated together and give the latter the political power through democracy. Since it’s a game of numbers, the norther will continue to have a say in any political establishment in this democracy.

Look at the votes from Kaduna, Kano, and Katsina for example, can you see that the south is at the mercy of the North? Meaning the fulanis will continue to select people for presidency in as much as this nation stands.

I’m trying to give a realist solution to all this menace. To pull out of the country, the Igbos can’t do it alone, even if they must you must learn to bring the Yorubas in your fold.

You should understand we Yorubas, we’ve not gone through what the average Igbo went through in the war during the 60s, so it’s very hard to rally people around for a common cause. The best tool to gather people is to give them something to fight for, people only react when you can appeal to their emotions.

Nigeria will eventually break, maybe in our generation maybe not, but I’m 100% sure that Nigeria will eventually break one day. But I’m still trying to figure out how that can be achievable optimally.

Nigeria situation now is a war between the rich and the poor, coz there is a conspiracy among the leaders both Yoruba and Igbos to keep their subject in this union.

The animosity between the Igbos and Yorubas is borne out of the fact that the Yorubas thought if they don’t align with the north the Igbo will. Same thing the Igbo thought if they don’t align will the north, the Yorubas will. It’s just a political game by the leaders and we are just pawn in the game.

It’s evident in the political game of Nigeria right from time which saw the brainy vice playing second fiddle to not too literate president or aspirants from the north.
Azikwe/Balewa, Shagari/Ekwueme, Tofa/Sylvester Ugoh
Buhari/Osinbajo.

How did Igbos expected Awolowo to send his Yoruba people onto golgotha? Please educate me

T9ksy:
Emphatically NO .........but the ibos expected him(Awo) to send his yoruba people onto "golgotha" for their cause.

How about those who have looted billions in public money and already riding their dream cars?

superior1:
They were probably hoping to return to buy their dream cars

Vanity, man’s popular pet

He deserves to die!

[quote auth or=babecode post=82264006]Two Nigerian men have lost their lives after the drugs they swallowed burst during a flight from Brazil to Ethiopia. The deceased, identified as Chigozie Pascal Aniagbado and Chijioke Chidioka Ogbuefi, died before an emergency landing, despite the fact that CPR was performed on them.

According to the eyewitness; At this moment am in Ethiopian Airline from Brazil to Ethiopia my sit number is 30D which falls at the middle in between two men, they are all black skin like me, The flight was 12hrs journey, the young man at my right asked me to check the flight ✈ map to know how far we have gone which I did we already half the journey.

Then he said to me do you speak Igbo I said yes, he said he doesn’t know if he will make this journey that it seems the drugs he swallowed must have expired its stay in his system ,then my mind sink right inside my stomach, I began to shiver, he said don’t be scared it’s not in the bag is inside my body, he said I should stand and get him drinking water, I refuse standing cos I was scared he may insert something in my bag, I have to wave for the air hostess to come, she came and serve him water, he demands for food, he was given.

He became calm, a few minutes later he brought an olive oil from his bag and drink, This moment I was confused I don’t know what to do, then he started shivering /panicked & fell down that was when all the doctors in the plane assembled, questioning, asking his country & tribe ,his blood was tested for sugar samples & high blood pressure. He was able to open that he swallowed drugs �‍♀.

As I speak his vomiting blood, my God I don’t know what will lead a young strong man to this, as I type now his gasping out the doctors has to put him on oxygen, his progress is slow, Because of them we are having emergency landing, the pilots said no matter their crime, it’s their priority to keep them alive �‍♀

We couldn’t land the said country has Ebola, so we proceed while they are on oxygen. While typing, I was told they had lost the battle. May their soul rest in piece

https://all-gists..com/2019/09/two-nigerian-men-die-as-drug-they-swallowed-burst-during-a-flight-photo.html[/quote]

"Most ignorant people always think prosperity is measured by selling from 2by2 shops or by assembling China auto parts and rebranding it as locally produced.

What is the thrust of your posting?

Iblad0994:
Thanks bro. You did a wonderful job on this thread same with the other contributors.

I was just on my bed going through all this and I’m amazed with the reach and sagacity of the Yorubas. I know Edo/Benin also share some sort of similarities with us looking at the fact that we are all offspring of Oduduwa/Oranmiyan.

One important strength of the Yorubas is that they own businesses and corporations that cuts across all sectors, and we are well versed in the IT and service sector in general.

I live in the USA, IT and service sector generates a lot for the USA such as Google, Amazon, Facebook, AT&T, IBM, Walmart, and e.t.c.

If you check the richest people in the world, you will see a lot of these IT and Corporation plays a major role in the USA economy and the world in general. For example, amazon is just an online marketplace where several billions of goods are sold and that made Jeff one of the richest.

The Yoruba guys have invested in lot of these IT and corporations as evident in what you guys contributed from the first page up to this page. Most ignorant people always think prosperity is measured by selling from 2by2 shops or by assembling China auto parts and rebranding it as locally produced.

I’ll also contribute my quota on this thread later coz by far this is the most knowledgeable thread I’ve read on Nairaland. It’s not only about winning alone but it’s about gaining knowledge about business spread and how entrepreneurs are shaping Nigeria and Africa as a whole.

God bless everyone!

Exactly photo sessions!

DennisEche:
usual photo sections

I totally agree with you!

Dpharisee:
The most unfortunate part is that Yorubas will rather attack Biafra agitators seeking to leave Nigeria than confront the Fulanis that have turned them into third class citizens in their land of Ilorin.
They jubilated on the python dance operation and killing of Igbos resisting Fulani domination of Nigeria led by Buhari.
Let them fight their fight, next thing you will see is the harrassment by our authorities of this man for telling Afonja descendants and Yorubas to wake up.
This crisis will soon snowball into a major issue, watch out!
I like the part were the Alaafin has lifted the curse of slavery to Fulanis placed on the Afonja descendants by previous Alaafin.

What is your problem with IPOB? You can criticize the poster without reference to IPOB. The poster may not even be Kanu supporter.

Harlem2:
Igbo are their 50% ipob statistics

Why are you Ndi-Igbo obsessed and Yoruba-issue blind?

Iblad0994:
Lol, seems you guys have been predicting and supporting other people since 1960 and yet you’ve never ruled except Ironsi that ruled for few months. Don’t mention Azikwe, he’s just a ceremonial head and a slave to the Northerner then.

Yes, your treachery showed first during Shagari era, when you guys voted against a brainy Awolowo to be slave under the Fulani. The Yoruba never cried marginalization, we just swallow the defeat and moved on without name calling like betrayal.

You lied about 1993, the Yorubas won through the ballot, you guys vote were for Tofa and Abiola defeated both you and Tofa.

1999 is just a game, Yoruba still won indirectly coz no matter how one’s child can be stubborn, we can’t feed him to the lions (A case of Obasanjo).

You lied again in the case of Yar’adua, the Yorubas voted him also if you know history and infact the election is marred by such high level of rigging that INEC never published the results officially. Yar’adua later confessed he was rigged into government.

You lied again about Jonathan first term in 2011, the Yorubas voted overwhelmingly for Jonathan except Osun state. Jonathan won 5 of the six SW states in 2011.

In 2015 and 2019, we all know what transpired and God willing 2023 will reveal itself soon.

In as much as I love the fact that you try to show the timeline of the SE achievement in politics, you missed the actual fact that No man of SE origin have ever been voted through the ballot in a presidential election.

In 2023, try to present Obi and let’s see how it goes. I wish you guys the best and hope Nigeria get it right by then.

Please ask them again.

aolawale025:
How can you neglect warri, PH and calabar ports and expect inland port to be active? When the bulk importers are from the SE?

I toally agree with you!

meccuno:
Nigeria was not created to make headway

"We should be to Africa what America is to the world but we are now a subject of ridicule"

Absolutely agree with you. We are reaping the fruits of quota-system and federal character based political leadership in the last 45 years since the end of the civil war.

temmypotter:
The foolishness of PMB's media and publicity team, How is this bit of news useful at this very unfortunate and dark time in our history, A country that was to be the pride of Africa has become a joke, We should be to Africa what America is to the world but we are now a subject of ridicule.

Nigeria , the most populous black nation is at the mercy of a nation with less than 60million people, begging for our lives, Disheartening!

We can hate the likes of Abacha and IBB all we want, but in their time, nations respected us, feared us even. Sad!

Is there any correlation between development and being landlocked?

Ekpeitit:
Yes you do but you will never get it because you are slaves.
Stop using reverse psychology ,we know how desperate you want it.
Okoro people will never smell the presidency of this great country, go to your landlocked Biafra, we will soround you and still enslave you.

So drug-trafficking, human trafficking, kidnapping and prostitution are the only crimes in Nigeria? And are all these so-called Igbo crimes the reason why Nigeria is a failed nation? Are these Igbo criminals responsible for the looting of hundreds of billions of dollar earned by Nigeria in the last four decades? It interesting when a professor in criminality calls an ordinary graduate assistant in criminality a criminal. Remove the log in your eyes first before attempting to remove the speck in the eyes of Ndi-igbo

lilytender:
Financially viable region through drugs trafficking, human trafficking, kidnapping and prostitution. Let's see how this Christmas will be in Igbo land now that 76 of your criminal brothers have been arrested by FBI and EFCC plus interpol is chasing several others OR have you people gotten approval for the postponement of this year's Christmas?

An idle mind is indeed a devils' workshop.

Off all the existential crisis confronting Nigeria, whether an Igboman will become Nigerian President or not is the one issue that bogs your mind. Blackman -particularly those found in Nigeria - is a colossal disappointment!

BBBmall25:
Sadly, Am Not A Yoruba. But U Speak For Urself! Other Igbos Have Their Needs. So Man, Ur Opinion Ain't Count Bro. Stop The Cry And Empty Chestbeating#Bbbmal25#onelove...

" they will deploy every illegal means (see their overwhelming crimes) to achieve their aim. And if that still does not bring down the competition, now they demand separation!"

I am intrigued by your comment about Igbos and crimes. Are you making an emphatic statement that when it comes to Igbos and Yorubas with regards to criminality in Nigeria, Igbos are more criminally minded than your kinsmen?

rosebowl01:
Good point.

See what I don't get about SE people is admitted, they are driven and hardworking. They are competitive and willing to put in the effort to get results, they have been both a source of pride and curse to the country but:

1. If for their hard work, stats show that they are ahead of others, they don't focus on enjoying and appreciating their rewards, instead they burn through their time mocking others. In other words, their primary motivation for the hard work is just so they can tell you how you are useless, and they are blessed.

2. If for their hard work, stats show that others are still ahead of them, they will start throwing tantrums, blaming everything on God's green earth but themselves. In the end, if they cannot legally and legitimately beat you in a particular industry/economy, out of desperation, they will deploy every illegal means (see their overwhelming crimes) to achieve their aim. And if that still does not bring down the competition, now they demand separation!

3. Given the two above, using the the system, the other populace (especially northerners) has decided to play the game to their advantage and just cheat Igbos also using legitimate and ILLEGITIMATE means to get ahead. This now create double wahala and wailing for Igbos as they now have to constantly and eternally complain of the wrongs and injustices (true in some cases, and false in many others) that is being meted out to them.

In this point raised by the Op, Igbos are good at many things ie Sports, small to medium scale businesses, education, general work ethic and so many others that are too numerous to mention, but they clearly are below the SW in economic terms and developing a society. This has always been the case even before colonial times. Let's learn to appreciate on our strengths and work to improve on our area of weaknesses rather than spend time hating and throwing propaganda, false data etc everywhere.

Thanks.

What factors rule out investment decisions in the SE?

In a true federation - which Yorubas fought for in the last 20 years - will this factors even exist?

In a divided Nigeria, will these factors ever exist?

plaindealer:
Sad irony.

They are beating chest instead of asking tough questions like why the company is in the SW to start with.

I don't even know why they think ibo related businesses in the SW are doing the SW a favor when in fact it's strictly business decisions based on so many factors, factors that rule out investment decisions in the SE.

Why this "I better pass my neighbour" fight between the Igbos and Yorubas - two ethnic groups that ought to be leading light of Black Race and African had British colonialism not lumped them together in a mere geographical expression?

Are these parameters the true test of the capacity and capability of these two ethnic groups/region?

Is it fair to even draw economic comparison between the SW and SE given the fact that the SE region and its economy where completely erased during the 30-month civil war and most instructively, the post-Biafra political and economic paradigm that emerged centralized the commanding heights of economy to the exclusive benefit of SW?

In a failed entity like Nigeria, what is the glory in having the biggest IGR .....? Has it reflected on the life of the indigenes in those states?

Iblad0994:
Yes the total debt shows the SW owes more than the SE.

I created the thread to debunk the earlier stance of some guys on the other thread that the SW owe far more debt (like double or triple) compared to the SE. On that thread they depict that all the SW states owes more debt individually than the SE states which is false because they only look at external debt.

Looking at this thread you will see that Abia and Imo owes more debt than Ogun and Oyo when you look at it as a whole, but the other thread suggested that Ogun owes more debt than them because they purposely use only the domestic debt for the metrics.

Ondo and Oyo IGR exceed that of any SE states, whereas the former lies propagated by some Igbo guys was that Anambra generate more IGR than the SW excluding Lagos.

@your bolded statement, what do you mean by the population of people living in the SW? Is IGR only dependent on population? That means Kano, Kaduna, and Katsina should have the highest IGR going by your analogy.

I will continue to say this, the SW is a region that is successful and believe in silent achievements, Ogun state will soon overcome rivers state in IGR generating in the next 5 years if we judge by the growth trajectory of Ogun.

Even Ondo state is doing really fine, it got high IGR and low debt. If Dangote had situated his refinery in Ondo state, then that state would have been the new bride of the SW after Ogun.

Please can you share the statistics from your research?

immortalityk:
I'm in Ogun state and I research a lot and find out about statistics in Nigeria
From what ive seen its not favouring Yoruba's at all
I could care less about some stupid presidency

Please what is the thrust of your posting? The man who made the observation is a northerner. Why disparage his comments and turn it into Igbo-Yoruba fight?

immortalityk:
Igbos and propaganda
Who dominate boxing,Yoruba
Who dominate tennis, Yoruba
The richest female football player,Yoruba
You people use the back of your skull to talk sometime

She is not less competent. She is incompetent!

python2gbera:
Like play, like play, dem collect Finance from SW.
I dare say, that was a big slap on SW. I find it very insulting that Zainab retains the position ahead of a SW nominee. With all due respect, she is less competent on the job. Neither was a female minister from the SW. What a big joke!


Python2

I totally agree with you!

SimSify:
All are round pegs in square hole..synonymous with the presidency..

Appointing Aides for compensation..
Most of them does not even know what to advice the presidency on..

Does the presidency take advice from this people?

Do this people advice the presidency or they advice Kyari and then he interprets the advice to the joy of Buhari?

Do this people even have the guts, damning all circumstances to tell the presidency the truth like mama Taraba the former women affairs minister ?

I think this one's are just there to sing melodious song to the hears of Bubu!

Exactly! You can never see a minister in a developed country in such ecstatic mood like Akpabio.

correctyourself:
He is happy because he has being given the chance to eat, the office is going to be family business, nothing more. You can't see a minister dancing to celebrate in a developed Country, when he should be concerned with the challenges ahead.

Bighead9:
Biafra would've been a jungle by now. Cause of the high numbers of Drug pushers, Armed Robbers, Ritualist, Kidnappers, Baby factories, Prostitution, Fake everything, Scammers e.t.c
Only the strongest would've been able to survive in Biafra. Libya would've been a Child's play compared to the unrest and Terrorism in Biafra.

Did you really understand the thrust of the posting?

Prompto:
The reasoning of a typical foolish Igbo. Ojukwu as the right to attack the West but the West is suppose to Sidon look when being attacked. How your father is yet to commit suicide over your abundantly incomprehensible foolishness is a mystery.

Please how did Ojukwu attack the west? Was the west an indpependent country headed by a Yoruba or a part of Nigeria that declared war on Biafra? Duriing war, where do you attack,- the capital or an outpost?

YorubaHero12:
Well let me reply your question based on my own subjective reasoning.

1. Yoruba joined the war when the Biafra military advanced to Ore and had their eyes on the takeover of Lagos, so the Yorubas gotta defend our territory.

2. Well as at that time, the Yoruba founding fathers thought that Nigeria would have been good staying as one coz things are not bad like this. Remeber pre war, Awolowo built the first stadium, first TV station, first skyscraper, free education and so on. So Yoruba do not have much incentive or reason to breakout of Nigeria.

3. Well the question depends. Although I will say based on my own subjective reasoning, the Yoruba nation would have been better if we have our own separate Oduduwa country. So you may be right by your theory in the third question.

But I want you to understand that each tribe has their motive and way of engaging situations, the Yorubas believe in strategic analysis of situation and always exhibit some form of restraints to situation before reaching a decision. Whether Oduduwa republic will come will depend on a lot of consensus among the Yoruba people and before then we will strive to succeed in the union called Nigeria.

I hope you get your Biafra soon tho coz a whole people cannot be held against their will in a union. Just that you’re using an ineffective means to advocate for the Biafran succession. Time will tell tho

Yoruba joined the war when the Biafra military advanced to Ore and had their eyes on the takeover of Lagos, so the Yorubas gotta defend our territory.

Thats not true. I want to give you a second chance to educate yourself and acknowledgehistorical facts. To help you the first shot was fired by Federal Force on July 6, 1967 in the then Ogoja province.

Was Awolowo a civilian or part of the Gowon's administration?
When did Biafra march into Ore enroute Lagos?

bluke:
they also fought to free their (yoruba)people.
you dont go to sleep when your roof is on fire.
Ojukwu's downfall was his attack on west.

Please they fought to free Yoruba people from who?

How come both of them lamented about the post-Biafra domination of the Nigeria by the north? Obsanjo has been shouting about the Fulanization of Nigeria lately?

YorubaHero12:
Lol, your reply sound too incoherent for me to make sense of it to give you a dignifying reply.

War is a situation where maximum force is used against the opponent, war is not a place where you give biscuit and Pepsi to your opponent. In war you crush the enemy with every tactics you can get, whether by alliance or by tactical approach and that’s what the Nigerian army did.

There are lot of foreign mercenaries that supported Biafra and I have supported that fact with reference on the third page of this thread. Ojukwu was like Nnamdi Kanu then, he started the war through propaganda and he was all around the place granting interviews to international news channel lying that he will crush the federal government and get Biafra in small time.

I know the Nigerian army did wrong coz they crushed you guys in your millions, but seeing the current generation of Igbos and how they behave made me understood that what the Nigerian army did back then has some justification. You guys chestbeat a lot and claim superiority with propaganda while in reality you are NOTHING.

If the war had continued without Ojukwu surrendering the Igbos would have been exterminated coz the war is already genocide coz you stood no chance.

Your grandfathers will tell you about the heroic display of the mighty Yorubas within the federal army and the tactical approach Awolowo employed to make the war end so soon, or else the Hausa army is bent on killing you all to the last man.

Hairy chest beaters that surrendered without any option. Your territory got reduced to just 5 small states and economic power given to the south south. You’ve been slaves in nigeria since then coz you are always asking for liberation from the union. Even Ijaw learnt that when Dokubo termed a whole Igbo tribe his Slave.s.

Why did Yorubas fight the war?

Why did Awolowo join the north to fight against Biafra instead of fighting for the freedom of Yorubas from the geographical expression called Nigeria?

Why didn't Awolowo - and Yoruba nation - allow the Igbos and the northerners to settle their political enmity?

Is the Yoruba nation better off today in post-Biafra Nigeria than they would have been in post-Biafra Oduduwa Republic?

plaindealer:
Benjamin Adekunle

The Black Scorpion.

A real military tactician, talented and gifted soldier and a PATRIOT.

Is that the final story of Adekunle you know. Have you read his civil war story by his son? Adekunle died a painful and sad death full of regrets for fighting in the civil war.

Badgers14:
Agriculture, Agriculture my foot

Countries are advancing in IT and technology.. this ones are here saying Agriculture agriculture

I thought he went to Abuja to seek assistance in upgrading Imo airport to International airport to create more jobs etc. Or seek federal funding help improve infrastructures in Imo state... he is seeking assistance in Agriculture...smh

Why would he seek assistance in upgrading Imo Airport into International airport. Is that the #1 issue facing Ndi-Imo?

learnine:
Did anyone notice they are/were all leaders of under-developed countries?

Those so-called undeveloped countries are far better that Nigeria in all Human Development Index.

jrusky:
You see my people again? Chinonzo and Ifeanyi in another man's land and when I speak against all these shameful attitude they come attacking me but when a Yoruba man did same in his Yoruba land they come here bashing the Yoruba calling them all kind of names.

Pls my post is not about creating tribal nonsense but I'm talking to my people let's join hands together to defeat crime in our people mind it's a collective responsibility going around beating chest can t do nothing no pride in be known for crime no joy in it abeg.

What is the moral of your posting?