djdutch: The Nigerian context is world class corruption-only thing stopping Lagos from looking like Kigali with world class roads,free wifi access and transport system. Nigeria leaders are kingpins of corruption in the world and can't be rivaled.
If Lagos was a country it would control its own resources, ports and have more at its disposal to better manage itself, [b][/b]
You are absolutely right that with the above statement. But why is Lagos or South West Region not an independent country? Who prevented Yorubas from having an independent or semi-independent country where they will control there resources?
Stop deceiving yourself. There is nothing like south. The so-called south sold their birthright to The north in 1967 when they joined the North in fighting a northern-inspired war against Biafra.The South mortgaged their future by that singular action!
festacman: The truth is that Northern politicians are running their mouths, flexing their muscles and beating their chests because they have succeeded in putting fear in their Southern colleagues to accept their shenanigans. Unfortunately, what they fail to realize is that a BOYCOTT of election by a UNITED South CRIPPLES everything about 2023 Northern presidency bid and set the stage for something cataclysmic, the end result of which is yet unknown about the continued existence of the country.
If Southern Nigeria made and continues to make compromises by accepting Federal Character and Quota systems to preserve the unity of Nigeria, the North MUST be make their own compromises by accepting rotational presidency for the same goal.
Enough of this anoyingly irrational and shamelessly insensitive posturing. Northern Nigeria and Southern Nigeria need each other to exist as Nigeria. No entity is superior to the other.
Come 2023, if North retains the presidency as though nobody is capable in the South, the Southern leaders would have absolutely nobody to blame but themselves. Nobody takes you seriously until you assert yourself and time has come for that in view of feelers from the North.
Please did you say Western Region lent money to Eastern Region? Please when was that? Can you substrate your claim with empirical evidence.
Thanks!
mercyville: lol Are you talking about the fake WAEC results that were debunked? Yorubas still remain the most educated. Do you even remember that Western. Region lent money to you 2 times during regional system of government ?
In this day and age, you should not read somewhere and advertise your ignorance on social media. You should provide empirical evidence of what you read. Infinitum the common sense thing to do is to keep your "l read somewhere" to yourself.
You portray yourself as intelligence and objective.
Osaze007: I read somewhere Azikwe wanted to remove the oba of Benin and Lagos and turn both places into districts The god of western Nigeria dealth with Nnamdi Azikwe and his entire people
Today his people are looking for secession clause Azikwe refused to put to spite Yoruba
I’m sure if igbos could go back in time they will tell zik to let it in the constitution But hatred clouded his judgement
If both Zik and Ahmadu Bello hated Awolowo so much, why did Awolowo chose to become one Nigeria with the two leaders of the two tribes that hated him?What
Why didn't Awolowo demand for self-independence in 1956 for Yoruba Nation , instead of Enahoro proposed self-esteem governmemt and allowed the East and North to form One Nigeria given their twin hatred for Awolowo?
Why did Awolowo join the North, that hated Awolowo, to fight Biafra instead allowing the North and East, his two enemies, to politically settle their score in the Nigeria-Biafra Civil War?
I live in New York and a subscriber of New York Times. You want us to accept the objectivity of this report from NYT. I hope when I post the same NYT report portraying Awolowo and Yorubas in bad light, you won't reject the report.
LegendHero: What are you talking about? You Igbos are serial betrayers and you have been in romance with the feudal Fulanis from the onset. Did you see how the New York Times describes it: "The Federal government whose prime minister is Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, a muslim notable from the north, is managed by a coalition of the Northern people congress and National council of the Nigeria and the Cameroonians, two parties that have very little in common except mutual dislike of the third (Awolowo)."
The Western region being the most developed, richest, most advance region at then was envied by Azikwe and he had no choice than to side with the Muslim north hiding under the rubbish banner of one Nigeria to perpetrate his hate .
The Igbos through Azikwe betrayed the southern alliance by forming a government with the Northerners and you guys are shamefully justifying that.
Verdict: The Igbos are cowards and serial betrayal of the southern hemogeny.
Another drivel from you? What is the thrust of your posting today?
LegendHero: I stumbled upon the archive of the New York Times in October 18th 1959 on the eve of the election battle preceding the independence. The article clearly shows the genesis of the problem of Nigeria and how the Igbos and North both ganged up against the Yorubas because of their hatred for the success of the Western region.
Excerpts from the paper shows the Western Region is the most developed and richest region in Nigeria pre-1960, and it also capture succinctly what I have been saying that the Yorubas will be far better off with our Oduduwa Republic than remaining in this Nigeria that is pulling us down.
Below are the quotes from the Times newspaper:
The conservative North, 75 percent Muslim and containing about half of Nigeria's population, is governed by the Northern people's congress. The premier is Alhaji Sir Ahmadu Bello, who carries the title of Saraduana of Sokoto.
In the East, where the intelligent, energetic Ibo tribes predominates the controlling party is the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons, headed by one of the most dazzling of Nigerian politicians, Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe, premier of the Eastern region, who is known throughout the country as Zik.
In the somewhat more developed west, which is Yoruba Country, the government is run quite well, it is said by Chief Awolowo, an able politician, and his Action group. The West points with pride to its universal free primary education, free medical treatment for children up to 18years of age, agricultural planning and other social programs of which no other Nigerian region can boast of.
On the Hatred of the Yorubas by Azikwe and Balewa: The Federal government whose prime minister is Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, a muslim notable from the north, is managed by a coalition of the Northern people congress and National council of the Nigeria and the Cameroonians, two parties that have very little in common except mutual dislike of the third (Awolowo).
Anytime the Igbos accuse Yorubas of being betrayals, you should direct them to this factual statement of their eternal betrayal of the Yorubas by being slaves to the North and being a coward to conspire with the north to hate Awolowo who would have made this Nigeria a great country.
Please Nairalanders, read the rest of the details in the affix pages below. CC: MetaPhysical Osaze007 Afamed Iblad0994 Asnafsaeed immortalityk Anambralstson buhariguy Johnnyessence Omenka SLAP44 lazz
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Must you tell us the girls you made love to? You are shallow and petty!
Simbrixton: my names are yoruba names the last igbo girl i fuked said her name is ruphina i had to tell her chioma is better go and find out yorubas are the only africans that bear native names hahaha
Thank you my brother. He is an expired drug. This is the same who served in Gowon's military dictatorship that destroyed Nigeria's federalism. He is confused!
Igbos are not interested in presidency. We need restructuring. Simple and short.
The north and south west that have held the presidency between themselves since independence are shitholes riddled with crime, terrorism, illiteracy and poor quality of life.
Edwin Clark should not use Igbos to be popular now biko. Same Edwin Clark we heard fought against Peter Odili becoming President in 2007 because he was Igbo
Let me agree with your assertion on Zik. He was politically sophisticated slowpoke for sacrificing his Life and particularly,his Igbokwe nation for "One Nigeria" which never existed and will never be. Using your logic of reasoning, why did Awolowo repeat the "One Nigeria" political miscalculation of Zik when he aligned with the North in the Nigeria - Biafra War to sustain the same northern-dominated "One Nigeria"?
Why did he not support Ojukwu in restructuring Nigeria through Aburi Accord or allowing Biafra her independence by refusing to join Gowon and the North to fight Biafra?
Why did Awolowo repeat in 1967, a worse variant of the political mistake Zik made in 1953?
quote author=naijadrivablog post=82729885]I blame late Zik of Africa Zungeru. If only he listened to late Awolowo.
He wanted a big country, now we have big tribalism, big religious bigotry, big poverty, big potholes, big unemployment, big crime, big terrorism, big hunger, big northern domination, big marginalisation, big corruption, poor educational standards, poor healthcare big- almost-everything-bad!
PS: IGBOSON1 kpa cha ra anya GI. Inaghi asopuru okenye?[/quote]
Stop displaying your ignorance on social meia. CNN did not support Hilary. MSNBC is the network that sported Hilary
Daviddson: Sowore never created Buhari and I'm sure Sowore doesn't have any regrets for supporting Buhari to win against Jonathan. That I know Buhari is currently not performing and being charismatic as he should be doesn't mean I now think Jonathan was better.
Why can't these people understand that in politics, media houses are free to subtly show their support for a particular candidate? CNN supported Hillary while Fox News pitched their tent with Donald during their 2016 elections. Sahara Reporters that chose to turn their backs on Jonathan in 2015 were instrumental to his becoming Acting President in 2010. I'll assume you were not old enough to know how Sahara Reporters were hugely responsible for the protests and pressures that led to the NASS bringing out the so-called doctrine of necessity that elevated Jonathan to acting president for which one of GEJ' s aides was later reported to have gone to New York to give him appreciation cash which he reportedly rejected.
PS: This sentence has to be the longest sentence ever written in Nairaland
And how has your victory improved the life of the average Yoruba? Beyond the political appointees and their immediate family, how has your stay in the corridors of power benefited majority of Yorubas? Are your people better than those who are outside the corridors of power?
efighter: We the Yorubas have never lost out to the South-South or South-East in any political scheme. The humiliated you in 2015, we disgraced you in 2019, come 2023, we shall completed annihilate you. We shall teach you POL 301: Scheming and Strategies in Politics of Contemporary Society.
Wiifesnatcher: I need not find out about someone I didn't heard from him in the last election, so whoever he is, is irrelevant to me
Yoruba is the second stakeholders in APC, Igbo is the second stakeholders in PDP
Yoruba is gunning for the post of top man in the party their majority bank with and that's Igbo headache instead of them to be doing their own alignment na Yoruba candidacy be their problem
this is time for Igbo to prove themselves but here you guys are behaving like ojukwu and talking down another region because they're are pushing forward theirs without waiting for president to be handover to them in their bedroom
Davash222: They’ve used the SW again. By 2022, the SW would call for a United South, but then, they’ll know there’s a big difference between Six and half a dozen. We’re watching.
35824L: Why has the supreme leader of Biafra not awarded the contract for repair of this road in his country? He can't continue embezzling the taxes that Ipobs pay to him honeymooning around the world while his country lies in ruins
Peter Obi . oops i mean Professor Yemi Osinbajo SAN Delivers Lecture in UNIOsun as the Countries Vice President, a political seat some children of hate from the region of rising crime hasnt occupied since 36 years ago
As them they hate naso God dey derank dem for naija politics, from DSP to mere whip
selemempe: I support this with all my heart. The yorubas should push to leave this shithole...Nigeria dont deserve the great yorubas. Good to see u are taking benin and warri too. Thats nice. Even illorin? Wow this is so good. I support it 100%
Why don't we practice true federalism and see how the regions will fare?
ORIENTATION101: the answer is they don't pay tax. Don't let them fool you that Lagos tax is coming from their spare part business,or okirika, boutique business e.t.c. Lagos and Ogun IGR is generated mainly from P.A.Y.E Lagos state don't collect revenue from port activities cos that is one of the issues most of them get wrong.
Who told you that's the barometer for measuring success? And how many people do this companies you mentioned employed compared to the population of Yorubas? Are you not aware that Ndi-Igbo started afresh from ground zero having lost everything we had in the unjust war
Ritchiee: Tell them to answer this first.If you are good,let us see what you have done before.
I really respect the Igbos for their positive potentials but I cannot lay my hands on any business they have built that had lasted like the Tribune,Punch,Iwe alaroye,alabukun,Odua group etc of the Yorubas.
It is not about others doing nothing. We are the ethnic group that started from nothing. All our progress was wiped out. We built everything we have nw from ground zero. That alone puts us on a different level!
dukeprince50: I am, but you make others look like they are doing nothing, to be frank I envy the Igbo's and Yorubas but not like just Igbo's are the solution
"The Yoruba did remain neutral until the Biafra Army invaded Yorubaland. Why do you keep glossing over this fact"
I weep at your logic of reasoning. What date did Biafra invade Yorubaland invaded by Biafra? And what date did Nigeria-Biafra War start? Who fired the first shot and where? Was Yorubaland a part of Nigeria or an independent country? Was Awolowo already a part of the northern-led government or was he an ordinary civilian and leader of Yoruba?
The answers are simple and straightforward. Do not start an epistle!
SamNaijaboy: The Yoruba did remain neutral until the Biafra Army invaded Yorubaland. Why do you keep glossing over this fact. Or they should have allowed Ojukwu massacre and rape Yorubaland like he did to the mid-West? That’s where there is a deep flaw with most Igbo. They will be quarreling with you if you don’t allow them have their way with you, offering you terms they could never accept. And once you reject it, you become their enemy. Never seen anything like it before You always assume you are smarter than someone else. As long as the person is of a different tribe. That’s the definition of tribalism
Your comment is a figment of your imagination and the reason is because you make so many assumption. When you make so much assumptions, you end up with so much fictional assertions
Why would Zik's ugly experience with Awolowo in the 1951 regional election be the source of the grouse?
How many Igbos were massacred by Yorubas in that election compared to the numbers massacred in the pre-Biafra pogrom in the north which was the major remote cause of the birth of Biafra?
There is no basis of comparison between the 1951 carpet crossing and the 1966 pogroms in the north.No sensible Igbo man even thinks of it in the light you portrayed it. In fact, the regret of an average Igboman is the carpet crossing experience failed to become a teachable lesson for Zik to open his blind eyes that his "One Nigeria and Nigerian Unity"project is a mirage and doomed affair with catastrophic consequence. If he had imbibed that lesson, he would have fought for separate independence for the 3 regions or if he life depended on one Nigeria, he would have accepted Awo's offer of alliance to become the Prime Minister in the post-independent civilian government
So how did you arrive at your conclusion that "the source of your grouse with the Yorubas was 'cause the Yorubas wouldn't let you manage their affairs in the 1951 regional election due to carpet-crossing
Can you show me empirical evidence where a succession of Igbos made this claim?
Or better still, let you and l conduct an online survey where we'll pose this question to generality of Igbos to prove or invalidate your thesis. I will pay for the online survey. I will give you some inputs but will allow you to word the question the way you deem fit.
Do we have a deal?
T9ksy: I thought you guys claim the source of your grouse with the yorubas was 'cause the yorubas wouldn't let you manage their affairs in the 1951 regional election due to carpet-crossing? For that reason, ibos labels yorubas, tribalist.
You guys keep rewriting the narratives as you deem fit.
If you deny again the next thing will be the actual gazette and video proof so that you will know all you’ve known since you are young is all a lie
Why don't release the actual gazette and video proof to nail your argument? Must you wait till he denies it.
LegendHero: Yes send his pics with Awolowo in that attire to me. I will also upload the link to the gazette of the New York Times of the speech Gowon gave on that day.
Seems the spirit of lying is still evident in some of you, now please deny the gazette. If you deny again the next thing will be the actual gazette and video proof so that you will know all you’ve known since you are young is all a lie. Ojukwu masterminded the lies and made sure it is embedded in all average Igbo men to propagate.
I will lecture you today. New York Times Published August 1966
You want us to leave now? Shouldn't you be ashamed of yourself that you are saying this in 2019 - 52 years after the birth of Biafra?
We left your Nigeria for you and your fellow northerners. Instead of saying good riddance to Igbo rubbish, you joined them to massacre innocent children, women and old men.
Why didn't you tell northerners, HELL NO, Yorubas are not joining you to fight OkORO; but if you desperately want them back, then you have to fight them alone without Yoruba support?
Should your ethnic group not acknowledge their bad choice in aligning with the north to fight us and profusely apologize?
Area4Area: But majority of the Yorubas want you to leave now just like the northerners and what are you doing about it?
"Igbos have to spread to other part of the country to find a target market for their goods and services cos south east region is not too productive on terms of revenue generations."
Your thesis on why Igbos disproportionately share the population of immigrants in every part of Nigeria is fascinating. Is this all your intelligence can come up with? Why don't we restructure Nigeria so that each region controls its own resources and economic decision making ability? Or better still accept Kanu's call for referendum to decide whether Igbos want to remain in Nigeria or not After ten years we'll see whether that thesis of yours hold water.
I marvel at the logical reasoning ability of some online commentators.
ORIENTATION101: cos Igbos re at greater loss if their investment in northern Nigeria is being threatened. Have u forgotten how Kaduna Declaration 2 years ago put Igbos and their leaders into state of panic and confusion. Igbos have to spread to other part of thecountry to find a target market for their goods and services .cos south east region is not too productive on terms of revenue generations.
If all Traders and businesmen of Igbos in North return to east who will buy their goods and services when majority of their brothers re already traders and businessmen.
Yoruba and other southern Tribes have little or no investment in Northern Nigeria compare to Igbos.
Orji Uzor Kalu abeg mind your Election Tribunal, and ongoing corruption case and leave our Osinbajo alone, enough of fake news against man wey no send you or any of your tribes men
Last Last Osinbajo is more powerful than any Ibo politician, Even DSP an Urhobo man holds more power than all Ibo yam eating politicians
Ibo keeps telling us the north would sideline yoruba yet
*Leader of the economic team is Professor Salami and his errand boy is Charles soludo *Current Head of Service after ita wilfred was sacked is a yoruba woman *Nigeria Governors forum denied Short Rufai for a Yoruba man JFK *The leader of House of Rep is Gbajabiamila even after ibo's campaigned against him, he still won massively *Buhari's first Federal Executive Aproval is the $5.3 billion Lagos Kano rail line, when some people are been marginalised and made to pay for southwest infrastructure with their sweat
You said it all. The northerners can't believe how lucky they've been all this year to get away with all the shit and dung they pile on southern Nigerians? They must be wondering how Yorubas believe them despite their born-to-rule mentality
Racoon: Game on! Abba Kyari the defacto president òf Nigeria running things full gear. Core northerners can never be trusted.This is same thing they did with the middle belt to attain politico-military stability in the 1966-67 Nigeria and thereafter the marriage crashed.The middle belt today is a theatre of endless bloodletting.
Guess Fashola/Osinbajo that said vote for APC so that the SW can get the elusive 2023 presidency can see the foolishness of their thinking? Guess the eyes of the zombies are getting more clearer now? Best way for a fair Nigeria is true federalism by choice or force.
Why are you injecting Igbos into the miss? It is Yorubas who have sacrificed their core principle and long-term survival for political crumbs from the Hausa/Fulani table.
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