₦airaland Forum

TimeMachine:
I am not sure you have an idea how government works. You just read what is put in the Press and swallow it. Google can actually tell you more about Executive Orders and why they are there. Executive Orders are just there to override the legislatures.

But I know I cant make a horse drink water of intelligence.

this guy self

Executive orders cannot override constitutional provisions

if that's the case, why has no president signed an executive order against the constitutional provision for gun control /rights?

You think the presidents are happy about the gun violence

But they cannot do much because constitutional amendments are NEAR impossible

Executive orders are cancelled in court, and subsequently presidents can also sign executive orders to cancel old ones

that's how fragile an executive order is

even Obamacare is giving trump so much trouble, it's the 14th amendment he wants to tackle

Joker

centboy123456:
bro did u just say 10 million lol is not up to and Mexico is not racism pls they are hard working people mind u do u know how many Nigeria and Africa Cross yearly to Europe

Mexicans are not even going to us much


it's the Honduras /Nicaragua /Panama/El Salvador dem that are crazy about US

their countries are failed states

TimeMachine:
You are just plainly silly. Is there any constitutional provision that overrides Executive Order, village somebori.

you don't know anything

Executive orders are cancelled in court (that is regular ones o) not to talk of executive orders on constitutional matter


That one will be torn to shreds

How far trump's executive order on DACA


One judge has torn it up, and it's been fought out in the supreme court

Many of his executive orders have been ruffled

America is not a $hithole like Nigeria where everyone is afraid of the president..


Any ways what is my concern, they keep it, they end it, it does not affect me in anyways

AnthonyAk:
Canada is still run by white men and yes there are lots of asians. Canadians aren't as dumb as I thought, the Asians have money but a handful of wealthy white Canadian families own everything else in the country.

Flights to Asian counties are much from Vancouver. We need more blk people

what do you mean that "they are not as dumb as you thought"


Money controks politics bro

from the way things are going, in the next 30 years, those Chinese folk will be to Canada what the Jews are to USA


And there is nothing that can be done to reverse it


But as usual, black folks are still sleeping

Babyvet:
White Europeans are not fighting enough to come here as their non white counter parts .if you look at the thread that Yemi posted, white American people living in Europe were regretting their citizenship.

I read the thread on quora


It's all abt the taxes

And besides, in today's world, a European passport will open doors to as many countries as an American passport.


So no big deal

but if you come from a third world $hithole with a useless passport, (India, etc) having a western passport is a big deal

Beautyaddy:
Really?...and here I thought they are claiming that Canada is a very immigrant-friendly country?

What about the Asians living there?

Did they win any political position?

I learnt that a major amount of Asians reside in Vancouver.

true

a lot of Asians live in BC

but then.......


It's all abt Good governance

Canada did have a black governor General of Haitian origin in the past

Lagos on the other hand will most likely NEVER have an igni governor, nor those communities in Ebonyi with significant Hausa populations ever have a Hausa man represent that plsvd despite the fact that it is aboki that habit in these places


Yet the same black men cry of racism and discrimination

milehigh06:
when i say strides,i relate to personal gains of individuals..thats why you have more rich young men now more than anytime in the country
they are makjng strides despite the messed up state of the nation

also your description of why the West needs africa(africans should keep dreaming) is the basic definition of globalism...if all countries were Nationalist at heart,they will shut off other countried

true that

blackgold2018:
Your statistics are wrong bro. I kno of a Dozzy group ex employee that was building his own business empire from his salaries he earned till he resigned to concentrate in his business(and many more similar cases)

How do u think innoson started? There're many more to mention a few. Don't even fu*ckin say I don't know there full story but they'l tell won't we want to hear.
Business adventure are not for nerds or for the lazy. What do you even think it's corruption?.

I'm from the east bro. Believe me with experience i have seen and witnessed billionaires that have made it through simply importing goods alone legitimately.

Sabi you won travel out, abi u won born your pikin outside the country. You can leave Nigeria in peace abeg... nw please leave my a** alone.

I'm an Igbo guy too with family members who are big in importation too

only if you knew how the game is played, you will not be talking likr this


It's extremely difficult to be a billionaire in Nigeria without being shady

take that from me.

not every one is morally bankrupt

but then, being extremely difficult is not the same as impossible

The digital space is the last hope for the Nigerian to make it big realky imo

milehigh06:
Africans bash globalism without realising that without globalism,Africa woukd be no where...reason africs is making strides now is because you have young kids who are able to tap into the global market to enrich themselves financially and mentally and then extend such knowledge to their communities

I weep for Nigeria

A lot of Africans are just naturally stupid...

it's the globalist agenda that enables an African, who has been dealt ruthlessly with by his wicked gov't earn some money online by doing jobs online and paid in dollars in return

killing globalism will kill that too.

What about exchange of ideas and tech

What will befall Africa if that bridge is burnt?

And the list is endless

One dimensional thinkers

Mcowubaba:


Will this really help 3rd world countries?
People are atikulating and buharing, anti-immigration rhetoric may have no effect on the governance of most 3rd world countries

You probably believe that if everybody stays back we will start demanding for good governance, it may not happen, especially in Nigeria, it's a doomed nation filled with mostly sycophants. They will still support recycled criminals

But give it to Trump, I don't support most of his ideologies, but he's a man of action and does what he Campaign to do

exactly

I don't support many of his ideologies too

but then, he has a point to be truthful and unbiased

Angrymode:
If Nigerian government have foresight, they would stop dual citizenship nonsense. It's either you are a Nigerian or Bleep off!

This way we will all have no other choice but to make Nigeria like the places we are running off to.

what is this one saying,

blackgold2018:
To all this small minds who think giving birth in US makes their child great or better than others.
Greatness is mindset, u can be born in a shit hole village and still become president.

thsts very true

but having a western passport is a plus
.For mobility and all.


One thing I really hate is having to apply for visas to where others breeze in freely

I can't make impromptu trips with this useless Nigerian passport

but you are right, greatness is inborn, and is cultivated

it's not a function of your passport ALONE

dazzlingd:
Good, this will keep Nigerians and other Africans seeking cheap solution through earning of citizenship of other countries that was built through sweat and pains... Let everyone make their own country better.

Africa CANNOT get better

the toxic dead weight barbaric people far outnumber the ones who are civil brilliant and sensible


And with tgeur numbers, they perpetuate themselves into power and spoil the system, And then frustrate and even kill those who want to change things


in a normal setting, how can cretins like Buhari, Conde, Biya, Musoveni, that goat from Burundi and many others even win election to local govt

But they are presidents

Babyvet:
I don’t know why this country act like they don’t need immigrants. The immigrants contribute so much is not even funny.

it's all about keeping America "white"

nothing more.
immigrant from Europe are not railed the way immigrants from elsewhere are railed


And Europeans abuse the system too

but trump no go talk that one

Martinez19:
Trump loves all Americans be they black, white, brown etc. Obama was a failed president who lacked balls and integrity.

better shut your mouth there


"Obama is a failed president" my black arse

he was not perfect, but he tried his best and saved his country for collapse.

you think it's easy to steer your country out of recession and financial mess?

He is one of the best presidents America ever had

And if not for Trump's foolishness, he too has the potential of entering the "best president " bracket.

jaxxy:
Trump is just a realist. U can’t stand and watch ur country become smtnelse it wasn’t intended to be just because u want to please everybody. There are other ways to be a citizen if u so choose bt what’s special about being a us citizen anyways when ur real country is being destroyed because u have abandoned it to its faith.

Just look a Dubai taking its destiny into its hands other countries need to think for themselves and make it work. That’s Trumps mentality and he’s willing to help such countries improve. I only pity very poor countries bt Nigeria isn’t poor we are just useless to ourselves.

However i don’t think Trump has executive right to amend the law like that and birth right has its advantage and purpose bt as usual people will want to abuse it.

trump willing to "helo" such countries improve

you are a JOKER

Trump rhetoric is EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF


nothing more nothing less.


But then he won't be president forever

this is just a phase

AngelicBeing:

this man again

oya show yaself
I want to laugh

AnthonyAk:
Naija sweet , forget this thread. I went clubbin in enugu at that time period of my cousins 50th birthday (Ivara's Sister) and was blown away. The flexing no be here oh. My uncle was even telling me how theres no point in leaving , he just finished an estate in awka.

Funny story that day the Governor of Anambra , Imo and Enugu plus their deputies and aides were all there. See big men dey drag politics about how they want Buhari to be president. I was in the midst of power quietly sipping on hennesy.

My point is those connections are seldom made here on some shit. They just finished mayoral politics in here in Vancouver. No single non white even won a mayoral seat for any of the cities.

Well

blacks are still the minority, so it's expected


besides; good governance is all that os necessary

Babyvet:
Mo

Nope , a judge reinstated it, they said that the president not end it properly , so now it’s in the Supreme Court. Lol , Donald trump and Christian don’t go in the same sentence.

you don't mean it


Bad market for trump

Dagger79:
Mehn i love this man with all my heart. Our so called rich nigerian families una dey hear so

This is the deep reason why many Nigerians paupers are jubilating over this exercise in futility


deep seated jealousy


They can't get it, and now, the elite too will not be able to get it.

that repugnant tendency and mentality is what has kept Nigeria a shithole country

TimeMachine:
He can pass a New Immigration Law by Executive Order and enforce it, thereby, overriding the previous one.

Finally, a President with some balls. That loophole has always been used to raise US kids, now people have bragging rights based on countries their children are born. Trump is doing great. Let everyone stay put in their countries and build this planet one city at a time.

An executive order over ride the 14th amendment?

Why are Nigerians mumu like this

Have you asked yourself why no American president has been able to use executive orders to enforce gun control and regulations?

Because there is an amendment to make rubbish of whatever order you sign in that dept

Richdad50:
Those who watch CNN are ot doing themselves any favour. Foxnews gives you solid view of trumps america and not the usual emotional rascality of Fakenews CNN

Fox news is just as biased as CNN

two biased media outfits leaning to the right and left respectively


you can NEVER get objective news in either of them


people like Fox because Fox is telling them what they want to hear And It appeals to their biases and vice versa for CNN :\

Cantonese:
But let's be very honest. These people worked hard to get their countries to the levels they presently are. Why can't our own leaders fix our country and stop this issue of abandoning our country?

Most Asian countries do not grant citizenship to people of other countries. Do not hope as a black man to get citizenship of Asian and Arab countries. Why should people of those countries go to the USA and request for citizenship? Fair must be fair.

Nigerians in India and Malaysia do not have rights. Visas for Nigerians cannot be extended on expiration in Malaysia, yet Indians living in Nigeria hold dual passports. Can you get an Indian passport as a Nigerian? Yet Indians in the USA and Europe hold passports of those countries. I agree with Mr. Trump on this. It takes two to tango I submit.

I'm not sure of that tho

I have seen where many many have acquired citizenship of other countries in Asia (especially south Korea)

Even its possible for India

the only problem is....


who wants to acquire an Indian passport

it's practically useless

holluwai:
Why are people on this forum, majority of them so hypocritical? Like if you had the chance of having your kids or you yourself to be a citizen of America by birth; you won’t jump at it.

don't mind them

Admin401:
So It's even possible. Lol Rebuplicans control congress. Piece of cake.

Not so fast
constitutional amendment has to carry majority of state legislatures too

Dead on arrival

mabelly:
Great news... All these our politicians, artists and co running to the US to give birth to their children so they can have dual citizenship will end.

And how is that a good thing?

Nigerians and bad belle

AnthonyAk:
Chimamanda is married to my second cousin....true story.

I was just at their family house in the village this past June. So they are always coming in and out

interesting


I think we have rolled in similar circles in the for you to know some of these people

One thing I do know about anambra people tho is that they often have that magnet that pulls them back to that zone

Even a childhood friend who never lived much in Anambra state before (he is from nnokwa, I have followed his family there once to attend a trad wedding) is planning to build a house there and I'm like

Unfortunately, it's not like that for me because my parents kept me away from all that (I'm from imo btw)
that's why it seems odd to me that despite being of Igbo origins, the craze for "going home" is virtually non existent for me.

you see so many of them planning to go back to village this December and all, (planned weddings and all) so that might be the case for chimamanda and indeed many others.

To and Fro movements

sweetmelanin:
Not at all.. but I just smile when I see people abroad displaying such passion to return home.. that used to be me until I saw things for myself.

I was born and brought up in Lagos.. had a wonderful childhood filled with amazing friends and family. Moved abroad as a teen and for many years dreamt of returning home. After getting my stay, I eventually returned home.. I was promised heaven and earth by friends and family.. although had already made up my mind that no matter what I face I will slug it out.. there's no place like home. etc..

I eventually learnt that INDEED there is no place like home because Nigeria is a special kind of hell.

The Nigeria of the 90s is not the Nigeria of today. Mediocity & superficiality is the order of the day. Everyone wants to "pepper dem" with nothing in their pockets. I personally know of a doctor who is often borrowing money from his junior brother abroad to repair his car, pay his rent etc.. A doctor abroad can never suffer in his life.. whether black white or asian..

When you see the way bankers dress ehn .. you will think they are gods on earth whereas their day to day job is parading up and down in the hot sun looking for "clients" for the bank. The salary is next to nothing. What other decent paying jobs are there for graduates?

In Nigeria you will see people renting decrepit apartments but driving flashy borrowed cars, stunting on instagram etc.. why? Because people respect you based on how you dress and not the content of your character..

Basic infastructure = zero..

Friends and family will famz you only when they have something to gain. Or if you simply appear to be a "big girl" or "big boy" A poor man has no friends in Nigeria.

To cut long story short. I have returned to my base. A country where I actually have a decent career, a place where you can save your earnings and live a decent life. A place where I feel no pressure to prove myself to anyone or "pepper dem".

At least here, I have made roots: decent friendships (most of them are fellow blacks like me) theres no food in Niaja that isnt here.. my family is here too.. what am I missing? I have learnt that home is where you make it.

People will encourage you to come home to "invest in opportunities" either because they want to gain something from you or they want you to come suffer the hardship there with them... but believe me, once money finishes .. your so called "loved ones" will leave you high and dry. Some will even scam you off the little you have left.

unfortunate

Babyvet:
Exactly, America is stolen land ,so a good portion of Americans have benefited from this law. Almost 2 years into presidency he has not successfully ended daca, an executive order by Obama , he now wants to change part of the constitution , he must be out of his mind. The Nigerians supporting him must be out of their mind , either they have or children have benefited from this law.

It will surprise you to know how many Nigerians blindly follow and support this piece of shit called trump

To mant of them; he is the Christian guy who will save America from the anti Christ policies of Obama (how stupid)

too many air heads.


btw, he has not stopped daca?

I thought the thing was done and dead

I was not following up

the "dreamers"

Babyvet:
Not always , some have medical debt that can run into the millions, it’s not someone fault if they get really sick. Some jobs are really strict and will let you go even for short term illnesses. Even with health insurance, some things may not be covered.

true

yemiosinbajo:
See, I live in the US so I know what I'm saying; I don't have to argue with you. If it was the way you said it, the rich would choose to live abroad instead. If you have some time, get a copy of AMERICANAH by Chimamanda Adichie, and find out why Obinze chose to go back to Nigeria with his wealth, and why Ifemelu later went back after acquiring US citizenship. If you could afford to buy a range rover and pay for it in cash at once in Nigeria, isn't that wealth? How many Americans can afford that? Is that what you will call "normal" in America. How about the paying of taxes? Do you know how that affects the rich? Why are you intrigued by the visa-free opportunity? First, if you are rich, no one will deny you a visa, so you can still visit the same countries that the visa-free citizen visits, so what exactly is the advantage of the visa-free chance you get? How many countries do you necessarily have to visit if you are rich, is everyone interested in travelling like that? Most times, the rich is going to these countries for one conference or the other which is by invitation, so who will deny them a visa?

Look, I want us to be very objective in our conversation here. There are a lot of things I could say, but I'm at work now. If you have some time, this discussion was already on Quora, it has over 100 answers: Is getting an American citizenship the best thing? Take time and read through, and it will explain a lot of things I wanted to tell you: https://www.quora.com/Is-having-a-child-born-into-U-S-citizenship-the-best-thing-that-could-happen-to-a-prospective-parent-from-another-nation

Don't get me wrong, getting an American citizenship is great; but this is only for the poor and middle-class. If you are rich, you don't need it. If you are Nigerian and RICH, you will rather live in Nigeria than abroad. Have you ever wondered why people like Dora Akunyili renounced their green cards? Or why Wole Soyinka would not apply for a citizenship, and not live in the US? Or why Obasanjo still keeps living in his Ogun State farm even after leaving politics, though he could still be embezzling money for America if he wanted? Or why Davido or Tiwa Savage would rather live in Nigeria even with their US citizenships- do you even think these guys will break through in music if they remained in the US?

well different strokes for different folks


Nigerians in particular like Nigeria because it's a LAWLESS COUNTRY


I mean, if you have the cash, there are SO MANY poor people around that are ready to be your lackey

And if ever Nigeria gets better, many of such perks will vanish


I'm not a multi millionaire in dollars (yet, even tho I dey try)
But if I'm a millionaire in $$$
Id rather live in a ranch somewhere in the Caribbean / South America, or may be SA than live in that $hithole called Nigeria


but that's me.

All these things boil down to individual perspectives tho

Some like being the well off one in the midst of so so much poverty
I don't

AnthonyAk:
Lol thanks for the advice , i come to nigeria regularly so i know what to expect. I know it wont be easy but in the long term i stand to benefit wayy more than living here.

My parents didnt steal 1 kobo so i cant just abandon everything they have worked so hard for. Im speaking well beyond material things. All the connections that have been built over the years are invaluable.

For example i was able to exchange numbers with Innosun last time i was there and this is just oh mumsi said i should escort her for Nnewi. Can you imagine opportunities ive missed just by being here? I was supposed to get the contract to rebuild the innosun website

I wont even know where to begin to start making those type of connections here. As a black man i have to prove myself everywhere i go. Im technically a nobody here at best just a high wage earner , which is nice but i want more. For all my work there has to be more

My Canadian passport and my career will always be my fall backs just in case. But to be frank there are opportunities there , if everyone leaves who will change the country?

I've kinda lost hope

Nigeria emebigo


It cannot be fixed

not with the kind of human beings that dominate that space


it's a place where you can make money, lots of it, but that's the end


Eziokwu ka m na -agwa gi nwanne