₦airaland Forum

Seunnzy:
yea yhu are right...when I listened to a song she was featured in..i wonder why most of this female rappers are trying to be Nicki

probably that is what is selling

I don't really know

Blackivy27:
depends on how you view it. But women are manipulative. Men are easily manipulated.

not exactly so...

women who really love their men are easily manipulated by their men

so it's a case of what the man /woman in question is to you

that determine how well manipulated you will be
As a man

or as a woman

A good number of women dont really feel the man they with
......


the one that they really love
if the guy is a snake
her life is finished

that was the angle I was looking from

Blackivy27:
Knights?

But in reality women own the world. Call it manipulation if you want but behind every powerful man theres a woman.. Men might be the puppet on the stage. But the woman is the puppeteer. Get a world leader who adores his wife/gf/daughter and watch closely, majority of his descisions may be based on what she likes and dislikes. A mans weakness centers on his libido or ego. A woman that can manipulate either or both....

this post is very very hilarious....

distributeinc:
These type of women have always been around, their numbers grow naturally with population increase.

exactly

MrBrownJay1:
Brotha OP, read your holybook to understand that these biatches have been around since biblical times.

Stop blaming the wrong people for today's world issues.

help me tell em o

timesup234:
That dude doesnt live in the UK. He is among the lazy Nigerian youth we are trying to educate. They waste years waiting for a lost uncle to come take them abroad. Time that would have been spent doing something meaningful. On every street in Nigeria people are building duplexes with a value over 35 million naira, paying 300k per term for their kids.. money is exchanging hands for those actively engaged. Ugosample comes from a lost generation of "negative thinkers association of Nigeria". At 45yrs he is still waiting for his uncle to take him to America to work like a dog

This punk must be tripping

adonainana:
Yes please leave we dont even want you here

Even the nairaland owner charges up to 500,000 naira for adverts on his homepage.
Pls go on nairaland homepage and see how many banners you see there

Very soon if i tell you that young man is making nothing less than 5 million naira per month. you will say i am lying

Pls go to your south america or go to your imaginary job in the UK

I dont think we needd you here

lol

I'm a "part time resident" of Nigeria lol

you wan pursue me?

SIRTee15:
Exactly what I suspected....

Pls go and read about h1b visa....
This is a visa that brings in over 150 thousand professional immigrants into the usa every year....
Taking up jobs with salary up to 100 thousand dollars....

Tier 2 visa in the UK brings in professionals to work in NHS, IT and high end manufacturing....
Most jobs in that category are over 50 thousand pounds......

Most European countries also have respective high skilled visa for skilled professionals....
I'm really surprised how ignorant u are about these things because I know a lot of naija IT guys who left for Germany using the highly skilled route....
I know like 10 to 15 naija IT guys who were initially in uk but later left for Germany....
Guy leave story....
Knowledge is power....
Without knowledge, u can't go far...
Also mixing with the right group n friends is a plus....
They help u change the way u think....

leave the guy

he does not know what's up

adonainana:
Now I know you've never been to the UK, you have just been using SENSE to reply me and google, youung man I am a payroll manager (the department which deals with people pay )

If you are on a £100,000 salary in the Uk, your salary is taxed 45%

On your payslip all you will see that is going to your bank account every month will be £4,583

45% percent of your yearly must madantoroly go to the govt as Income tax

Now convert £4583 to naira every month and tell me if it is up to 3 million naira

Chai I even thought you knew a lot about the uk Kai so I have been wasting my time talking to you

So you thought all the £100,000 your friend earns goes to her chai see ignorance ooo

first of all
I'm not the guy who is going back and forth with you

and second
I am Very familiar with the tax system (did a bit while I was in school) and I know for sure that paying 45% on your 100k income is bollocks
both in Nigeria and Britain

it's a graduated tax system
You don't pay 45% flat

if you do that, you must be stupid

and besides
there are deductibles you can claim back
depending on your circumstances

so forget that story

that said
someone making 3m monthly (which BTW are not so many btw; that's 5 percentile ) does not make him better off than someone making say 6k pounds a month in Britain

the money may look good because it's a poverty stricken country (it's actually good money to be honest)
but the toll it takes on you to live a normal life in NiggerArea is so so much
financially and otherwise

me given the choice to choose where to live with a £100k income

I'll go to the Caribbean first
then may be American south (Miami )
before I even think of NiggerArea


but it's all good
people's perspectives differ

adonainana:
You keep beating around the bush all the time
When I counter your points you go and bring something totally irrelevant

What's your friend being an investment banker being to do with the points I made in this previous posts.

I never said Nigerians never had good job, my argument was middle class uk like this uk friend on £100,000 can never be better off than an equivalent middle class or high class earning the equivalent of 2 or 3 million naira per month

Everytime you are just giving irrelevant examples all the time

so someone earning 3m in naija is better than one earning £
100k a year?

You are tripping

adonainana:
No now please just answer my question do you know how many Nigerian daughters and sons are abroad now paying £18,000 as tuition fees in naira paid in advance

Please it's a simple analysis
Call a spade a spade pls

At MOST 10000 Nigerian students
at most

and most Nigerian students have parents with political connection, direct or indirect

You guys....

Nigeria is a very very poor country
Africa is a wretched continent

timesup234:
Ugosample go and look for another job. Visa agent won't be working in 2020. I have exposed the lies of the America dream and even people in remote villages in Nigeria are now aware that they live better lives than most Americans. You still have age on your side, I can set you up. Take my offer and you will make a minimum of 20,000 naira daily. The days of traveling to America and western Europe is officially over. Thanks to me!

naa
I'm no visa agent

loswhite:
You got 223 likes from fellow dumb ppl... You type rubbish without facts and you got like....lol.

when I read comments here
I just laugh

ahiboilandgas:
Ever body has a point ....nigeria by global standards of living is messed up cos 90 percent of citizen are suffering from chronic poverty to unemployment to poor infastructure or insecurity....but u can hammer legally or illegal faster in Nigeria cos of the upside down system ....but in develop society your life and income is program for pay bills and good living not accumulation of money that can be enjoy and for the majority of citizen to be fairly ok .....both present and future generation....in Nigeria we tend to accumulate cos the uncertainty is so obvious

you, my brother have hit the nail on the head with your last statement

its what I say all the time

the craze to accumulate in Nigeria is a by product of a failed system that begets uncertainty

it's that uncertainty of what tomorrow brings
that is why civil servant is stealing
that is why bankers are stealing
that us why politicians are stealing
etc


if the gov't got our backs
and you know the govt always have something for you
no matter how small

or the govt guarantees a degree of certainty

the craze to accumulate will reduce

Redman44:
You don't know what you are talking about. Nigeria has a lot of entrepreneurs who are adding value to the lives of their fellow citizens through their businesses. Do you read widely about Nigeria's businesses at all? How many States in Nigeria have you visited? Don't talk about what you don't know, please.

I have visited at least 16 states

Name 15 companies in Nigeria that hire at least 40000 employees nationwide

from what you wrote
you have little idea of the value addition i mean

what you are mistaking for value addition is RENT SEEKING
and to a lesser degree crony capitalism

we cannot have many companies adding REAL VALUE in the real sense of it and NiggerArea is a cesspit.

it does not add up

Adiwana:
This Timesup guy is just a bitter person that thrives on attention like a female while throwing up "facts" just to fill whatever bottomless pit he has and y'all are needlessly still feeding him that attention.Nawa oo

the guy is probably still suffering from the PTSD of visa rejection

HBB1:
Middle class paying 9000 pounds for school fees?
Don't mind him abeg.

at least 90% of Nigerians do not make £10000 a year
we are talking say roughly N4.5m annually
How many Nigerians make that? talkless of paying that amount as school fees for one child

adonainana:
No matter how thin it is, there is always a middle class

THe reason being this set of people are surely not poor neither are they rich rich

Getting and working out the balance is tough tough hence why they are middle class

they are THIN at best

we don't exactly have a middle class in the conventional sense of it.

I have seen around while I was in NIGERIA

what we think is a middle class is an illusion

the economic terrorist provrd that with his disastrous moves in 2016; where millions who THOUGHT were middle class were shown a raw deal by his policy mistakes

A lot of things don't add up in Nigeria

salford1:
You see. Hard work pays in the west. No matter what sort of work you engage in as long as it is not crime, but back in Nigeria, you can work so hard like a craze person, and you still wont get rewarded for it. People are also ready to work in Nigeria, but the jobs dont even exist.

the reward system is skewed in NiggerArea

what do you really expect

Crony capitalists and their girlfriends and hangars on are mostly the ones having the spoils with near zero value addition
the richest in America have their valuable companies wjivj cumulatively add even more value by employing tens of thousands, paying them salaries across board, and even paying their tavee to the govt, and producing goods for the world (not just themselves)

can we say same for the so called mofos in NiggerArea who claim they are "well off?"

we have those committing serious fraud in the banks and other companies in NiggerArea lining their pockets (that guy who was nabbed stealing 11m was just ONE of many incidents )
we have politicians and politically connected lining their pockets too.
then the girlfriends (you know them; buying properties left and right with no commensurate source of cashflow )

then we have the unscrupulous business men circumventing protocol to line their pockets too


while the teachers, the hustlers, the lecturers, the doctors etc are mostly getting peanuts

anyways NiggerArea is a country that worship money
so I am not surprised at the hilarious comments I read here

adonainana:
Someone sent you his paycheck and you saw £6600 there ( He must have been on £130,000)
Even the UK prime minister is not on £130,000 a year, he is on £120,000

You are delusionally trying your best now trying to give people wages they cant earn here in the Uk,

How can you say you know several people on £60,000 and they average normal people.

Do you even know how what the average salary and minimum wage in the UK is so you can have an idea of who earns £60,000 or not

And please you dont have to live in Banana Island to be middle class in Nigeria, Go to Owerri, Porharcourt, Enugu, Calabar and see young rich middle class millionaires. There kids end up attending expensive private schools in Nigeria and end up paying raw cash about £9,000 for tuition abroad.

Please can you tell me how many people who live in the UK can afford to pay £9,000 every year like its nothing. Please even that your friend that earns £60,000, tell him to his needs to send his kid abroad and pay £9,000 and see if he wont commit suicide.

Youve been to the British Parliament, there is rug in front, it looks clean, well done, Have you been to the Brunel President Palace or the Saudi Arabian parliament, then you will know there is more to what youve seen.

Middle class Nigerains are not UK middle Class earners mate for the reasons i have told you above

Please reflect on it

Nigeria has NO MIDDLE CLASS

probably its thin at best

They think they are middle class
But they really are not

CanadaOrBust:
But many make it that’d be in debt in the West. Also they can afford all sorts of servants and be able to bribe their way unlike the West. Though unethical, those things contribute to happinesses

most of the elite /rich class in that nigger continent (especially NiggerArea) are crony capitalists and fvckin rent seekers with near zero value addition

look around in NIGERIA
it's clear for all to see
in that kind of setting
it's easier to amass a whole lot, when you are close to "that place"

Most billionaires in America are linked to value adding companies, with audited statements and filed tax returns

from Starbucks to Snapchat to Amazon TO KFC to Facebook to Google to Home Depot, Microsoft, Dell, etc etc
you can link them to their value adding companies employing tena of thousands each and having a multiplier effect on the countty


the so called riff raffs in Nigger Africa (NiggerArea )
how many of them can you link to value generating outfits like these
Apart from day Dangote and a few others

for most, the society just know that they have money
the value generating units are obscure at best

that is the sickness in the society that it's unfortunate that Africana have come to accept

CanadaOrBust:
I meant “on the other side”. But u r a bit extreme just like him. U refuse to acknowledge some people making it in Africa would be living paycheck to paycheck and in debt if they were in the West.

no matter how much you THINK you are making in a $hithole country
you are still not making it really

because a rich man from a country that is so so poor us a poor man...

that is why the elite class create palliative for the lower class in the west
while nigger Africans is to accumulate and oppress and accumulate

a rich man from a poor country is a poor man

And crony capitalism is what gets many rich in say NiggerArea

CanadaOrBust:
U r on the side of timesup234. U r both extremes. The truth is somewhere in between

please don t classify me and that joker in the same category

lynx200:
The aim of every civilized society is to ensure that a large percentage of the population can afford the necessities of life and have some extra to enjoy some luxuries. This is what the USA, Western Europe, South Korea and Japan have accomplished. There is a lot of debt in these societies which is a fact and the taxes are high but that's the price they are willing to pay for having 80% of the population on at least middle class levels who can afford a university education, live in a house, drive a new car and take a vacation. The taxes are a means of supporting the infrastructure needs of the society and ensure things work unlike in Nigeria where nobody pays taxes and things don't work.

The Op is right when he says that many Westerners live on debt (research has shown there is only USD500 cash for every individual American. The rest is credit!) but its this credit system that is the reason for the stability in these countries. This is something the Chinese government after years of export led growth wants to see happen in their society with their emphasis on domestic consumption.

The thing about Africa and other developing regions is that the cash based economy promotes inequality with a few rich people and masses of poor people. This was the situation in Europe before World war 2. The lack of a credit system to get a home or car is why we drive second hand cars which on the long run cost more to maintain than new cars and rent houses. This is also why many business that deal with non essentials find it difficult to survive here as many people have to survive daily in this country.

But on the flip side, its much easier to get rich than in developed countries as there are still many things and features taken for granted over there that is sorely lacking here and anybody who has the balls to venture into them will hit it big. As for the sentiments expressed here, it's every individual's prerogative to choose what he/she wants. Go getters who are innovative and want to strike it big will easily be pissed with the Western economic model and prefer turbulent countries like Nigeria where they can set up businesses. But for those who just want to live a quiet life and don't want all the money in the world (Good job, meritocracy, good pay, a house and a car with some money for vacation etc) without bothering about electricity or security of live as well as the rule of law, the Western economic model of credit and 50% taxation is a good pay off for that.

this is an educated and informed post

AnanseK:
Count me out. Never would I want to live in America or anywhere else but Nigeria. To pay short visits to other countries is okay.

Please Baba God take note of this my request and prayer, I’m serious, keep me in Nigeria. Don’t mind the ingrates and the lazy lots who don’t know that America was built by sacrifice of its proud citizens.

what is this one saying?

salford1:
Most Nigerians make full payment on cars 20 decades old. Very few buy new car outright.

If Nigerian are buying enough new cars, Toyota, Mazda, Honda, Chevrolet, Nissan etc would have factories in Nigeria just like in Western countries which will further help the employment crisis in Nigeria.

You have said it all

FEGNO:
ITS BETTER TO TELL YOUR SELF THE TRUTH INSTEAD OF BEING DELUSIONAL. AFRICANS ARE VERY VERY VERY VERY POOR COMPARED TO THE LIFE AN AVERAGE AMERICAN LIVES. STRESSFUL LIFE? YES BUT LIVING BETTER? MY BROTHER, WRITE SOMETHING ELSE OK

I can't believe a sensible person is comparing life in Nigger Africa to America

MOST Africans are just existing
And breeding themselves into deeper poverty

I travel to a good number of countries
I see with my eyes

you think Nigeria own bad?

come Liberia and see how human beings are living like rats
Sierra Leone nko?

from the aiporrt aef you know that those niggers have signed a permanent pact with poverty and hopelessness


one can decide to be delusional

comparing America to Nigger Africa....

It's an insult

mylogic111:
men of our generation need to stop being weak. this is pure fact.we are not talking about property possessions.
if Abraham told Sarah he was demanded to sacrifice Isaac?
men of this generation are weak.

yeah true

Ilekokonit:
You will need the 90% later on when she shows you her true colours.

Most, if not all women are ingrates who use men to train them and their kids and lift the women up before showing their nasty side.

So, if you have 10 naira, tell your wife you have 1 naira.

Thank me later maybe 10 years into marriage when you finally realise that the woman you married is a deceitful monster.

depends on the kind of wife you have sha

if you have karishika as a wife

Ti è ti baje sè

this one must be a senseless soul lmao

This Trimo matter is a phase that will pass

he won t ne presidency forever
But this news is not cause for alarm tho

you guys should read properly

franchasng:
Yoruba man, I know every nonsense Buhari is doing is very perfect to you reason u guys aren't shouting at least he is building railway for you people amidst hunger, but during Goodluck era, if he coughs Yorubas will start to curse him for coughing. Why is your Sahara reporters no longer reporting about the quadrupled killings by Boko Haram, Fulani terrorists and bandits in the Northeast, maybe because a Yoruba man is now VP, tax collector, chief of defense staff and leader of ruling party, so all Buhari evil is great! Wicked, selfish tribe!

what does him being a Yoruba person have to do wity anything tho