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CelebritiesRe: Elsie Okpocha Asks Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Questions Over Busola Rape Allegation by Ugosample(m): 9:19am On Jun 29, 2019
Jbleenk:
If u all understand the intricacies of religion ehn...

“Everything is shifting towards entertainment. Entertainment rules our world. Add entrainment to anything and you will sell” - Pastor Femi Fasaru of Matthew Ashimolow’s KICC!

I heard those words from the mouth of the pastor with my own ears!

And the Pentecostal pastors have upgraded to design their “Alters” into a Stage complete with lighting effects.

The “Man of God” move from one end of the stage to other like pop stars dishing the right amount of motivational talks backed with the right passages from the Bible, quoted out of context, that you like to hear, with sonorous ‘gospel music’ from beautiful girls in the background.

They regularly invite comedians and evey musicians to keep you because they know it’s only entertainment that can arrest your sinful and wandering souls

Meanwhile the camera men from the media department are meticulously recording the happy faces and miracles for onward transmission to the international centers where the churches get their donations which is much more than tithes and donations from members.

The pastors are agents of social conditioning with the primary aim of keeping the citizens completely docile, distracted and irresponsibly complacent

They get their money from the international networking of conspiracies that is railroading us to this impending doom

You sit down there, wonder and condem the COZA “Man of Rod” for managing his business well

How else will a fine boy entertainer keep his strategic department of beautiful girls if he doesn’t “service” them from time to time? Or you want those bad boys of the choir to dabaru his business?

I know you guys won’t understand
you know the drill

i owe you two bottles cheesy
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 9:14am On Jun 29, 2019
pacificman:
look bro you are still getting it wrong...IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO GIVE BIRTH IN BRAZIL ON A TOURIST VISA,ok..do you get it now..yes there are private healthcare in brazil and pubic is free to both citizens and outsiders.why people use private hospitals in brazil is because most public hospitals are always packed with people,nobody is saying corner corner is right but we are all guilty of it even YOU..lets not come online and pretend.did you plan on setting up your business in abidjanhuhNO.you stayed here and you kept on renewing your resident permit.you never went down there with intention to start up a business.you are not a saint trust me,yu people should leave this thread alone and let better people contribute.even our saint president is corrupt and oh did he steal anymoney yet No..but nepotism is corruption and looking the other way is corruption
lmao cheesy
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 9:13am On Jun 29, 2019
pacificman:
look bro you are still getting it wrong...IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO GIVE BIRTH IN BRAZIL ON A TOURIST VISA,ok..do you get it now..yes there are private healthcare in brazil and pubic is free to both citizens and outsiders.why people use private hospitals in brazil is because most public hospitals are always packed with people,nobody is saying corner corner is right but we are all guilty of it even YOU
Okay then....
It's fine

Let's just let the matter rest......

Nigerians are amongst the most desperate people I Know of
So I am NOT surprised cheesy

Nigerians are the ones that will be looking for all manners of tricks and "scopes" to jaapa cheesy

the latest one I hear is going to Dubai and South Africa to "form" travel history then apply to USA under the guide of tourists then run away..
that way has also been detected *smiles*
.let Nigerians continue to be acting desperate cheesy grin grin

e no concern me

life na per head

But wrong thing is wrong
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 9:04am On Jun 29, 2019
pacificman:
bro you know nothing,nigerians have been doing corner corner since the birth of jesus,so to usa thread many of them go there and they never come back,many of them we know.i advise you stick to Abidjan..in law there is something called legal loop hole and what will you say about countries where you can legally buy citizenship,even in the USA you can legally buy citizenship?do you know the law in brazil covers both parents to collect PR even if they are illegal in brazil?as long as you have a Brazilian baby you are fine,why do nigerians all over the world have anchor babies in the USA,CANADA.look we can all act like saints online but i can smell hypocrites from millions of miles away
One question

Is corner corner right?..it's a Yes or No question


And you are mixing legal stuff like buying citizenship and all with illegal stuffs

"corner corner" is NOT right

That's it

No justification

And just so you know as well, you cannot buy citizenship of the USA

that $500k only gives you a green card max
then you wait for years and legal work before you become a citizen

so that info you have is WRONG

And its reasoning like this that has made Nigeria a cesspit
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:50am On Jun 29, 2019
Fallawx:
Go attend to does that accused you of living in Abidjan. Justwise stay ur lane on uk section . Make we dey our lane for here . For your information my friend I be ajala travel.
That is where my principal businesses and address is (Abidjan)

So yea I'm a CIV resident

And yes, we are all travellers, no big deal
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:48am On Jun 29, 2019
pacificman:
if you are trying to obey immigration laws..why cant you just study and go back to your country,it was because of people like justwise thats why the UK changed the law,so now you study in the UK and go back home,you really cant understand anything,you are defending the same thing you are accusing people going to brazil of..hypocrite
Oh lawd undecided


This man sef undecided
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:47am On Jun 29, 2019
pacificman:
you are a hypocrite and why do you even think i live in nigeria?you are a hypocrite and a bloody one,everyone knows you too well and nobody takes you serious..have you heard of jus soli before?stay in abidjan and stop talking about brazil as you dont know how the system works there
hypocrite indeed

the jus sol issue is NOT my problem

if you want another passport for your kid, you have the right to

my own kids will not even use the Nigerian passport for anything, so what the heck, ?

what I am against still is the "corner corner" ways of Nigerians in general

And I am NOT saying any one should not do

But Do not justify such acts (that is if you want to use the corner corner way)
simple and short
SportsRe: Mikel Obi Shares Photo Of His Twin Daughters And His Wife by Ugosample(m): 8:42am On Jun 29, 2019
byrron:

Niaraland of today is more like a play ground for lots of frustrated and joyless kids.

I still remember a decade ago when this platform was an avenue for interchange of civil discuss and dissemination of solid knowledge by bright minds then.

Those good old days are truly gone.
And the economy in Nigeria is hard and rough, frustrating many people these days

that is another factor as to why there are many angry people out there
SportsRe: Mikel Obi Shares Photo Of His Twin Daughters And His Wife by Ugosample(m): 8:41am On Jun 29, 2019
byrron:

Niaraland of today is more like a play ground for lots of frustrated and joyless kids.

I still remember a decade ago when this platform was an avenue for interchange of civil discuss and dissemination of solid knowledge by bright minds then.

Those good old days are truly gone.
the old days are truly gone

the forum began to sink from 2016 in my opinion
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:39am On Jun 29, 2019
Fallawx:
We no dey follow you drag . But why you no go back naija after ur academic session. Abi uk passport don turn 2 for #5 . For your information I get family for Uk and they are doing fine . This table you are shaking .
justwise was living elsewhere before he went schooling in the U.K.
So him returning to "Nigeria" is not even relevant here
back in the day you could apply for PSW or when dem Blair were in office HSMP, and your company, if you were lucky to get a job, could also file for you.

it is now that the Tories have closed the door to all those routes cheesy

So you bringing that up is not relevant at all...
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:35am On Jun 29, 2019
pacificman:
yes you live in abidjan and you hate nigeria with passion..lol..bro you are a typical hypocrite.i know you too well,everyone knows you if you see brazilian visa now you would run from abidjan or is abidjan better than brazil?
What does my living in CIV have to do with anything,?

I have gotten more than 7 visas to different countries since I started staying in CIV and on no account did I abuse any of the visas

why would I leave my thriving businesses in CIV and move to Brazil that I don't know anybody?


you think my life is like a rudderless ship with no direction like your own, which is just looking for any chance to run away from NiggerArea?

I'm bigger and beyond that.


what is wrong is WRONG, even tho people do it, that is what I'm saying, and that is the stance of civilised people

NiggerArea has so polluted you people's mentality that you dont see wrong in wrong things anymore
.the same society worship fraudsters, hoes, political and corporate thieves and drug dealers, because they have money, so I am NOT surprised by the comments I read here in this forum

How can one intentionally go to abuse ones system (nobody said you should or shouldn't) And still justify it?


what kind of country people do I have bikonu undecided

everybody knows stealing is wrong, even tho many do it.
But justifying stealing for example is just madness


@AngelicBeing
you see your country people?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 8:11am On Jun 29, 2019
LordAdam16:
Really?!

How often have you heard a random person say "Do you know who I am?"

You think that's just a sentiment exclusive to the hoi polloi? Have you read about the Clinton body count? When you occupy a position of power, you form networks with others also in position of power, and it becomes irresistible to use the bespoke connection for nefarious gains.

In a country like ours without strong institutions, there are far fewer restrictions to exercise that power, whether directly or indirectly. And the clergy and most spheres of influence are all Old Boy's Clubs.

-Lord
Clinton body count
who does not know?

Bill Clinton name is forever soiled with that so many cases that hung on his neck, especially Monica, no matter how people want to look at it...

that also played a factor, in addition to other things that made the wife lose her bid for president.

no matter who you are, once your name is soiled, it is soiled, end of story.
All these talk of "retribution" won't change anything


But in a fvcked up, useless failed society like NiggerArea, all you need to be, is a "BIG MAN"
No value for anything else

So yes, this punk will most likely escape
But his name is soiled forever
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 10:19pm On Jun 28, 2019
LordAdam16:
You have no idea. It happens everywhere; and in a heavily conservative society like ours, even more so.

Don't care for the undertones you "see." As I said, I don't care about this story one bit. I'm agnostic and I'm all for due process.

-Lord
maybe you are the one that has no idea cheesy

who knows?
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 9:42pm On Jun 28, 2019
Profkenny1:
The age of consent in Nigeria is 11
just imagine
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 9:40pm On Jun 28, 2019
LordAdam16:
What annoys me more is that they have the resources to take him to court and make an example of him. Then if Biodun tries the typical scare tactics, then they can enlist public support. But they wouldn't do that for whatever reasons.

Apparently the only way she can get closure is to make an accusation via the media rather than prosecute him which by the way would still make its way to the media. All of this isn't of help to the rape victims who do not have same resources and personal recognition that Busola has; because they look at the dismissals and rebuttals and think that's what they'd have to deal with if they come forward.

Using the legal system is how you build institutions that the rich can use and the poor can credibly run to for protection. Would she have been able to accuse a confraternity don of rape on media? How about our extremely influential high rollers in business and politics? Is it that there's no predator amongst those old farts? Or is it because there is a potent skepticism (and rightly so) of clergy men on social media?

They wouldn't because they know it'd be life and death, living well off or dying in penury. At that point, they'd heal in quiet because there's no proof. Now you have an opportunity to go against someone who is a lot more vulnerable, and you're choosing to have a back and forth on the gram without evidence.

Emotion is not my thing, so I'm being fully logical here. Biodun would likely escape this, even if he's guilty; and Dakolo and his family will face retribution. Then all these solidarity and gut-punches would mean nothing because she didn't seek legal protection. Na here we dey Apostle buy new private jet after his scandal with Otobo, Okeke, and co.

-Lord
it's a shameful, misogynist society, so most likely the guy will escape

But as for facing retribution
I don't think so.

You are tilting to one side tho
I can see the undertones in your comment

But it's fine
make we siddon look.

We should educate the populace tho about these things
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 9:02pm On Jun 28, 2019
LordAdam16:
I have not taken any decision concerning him. Not like I give two f*cks really.

I think instances of two underage kids raped made their way to the front page this week alone. No one is talking about starting a gofundme page to ensure the culprits rot in jail as rape carries a life sentence in Nigeria.

But he-said-she-said about a celeb and everyone is forming solidarity. It's disgusting.

Take this guy to court and do the needful. No, they'd rather fume on social media for SJW cred.

Tyson got convicted of rape in 1992. Did the time, came out, registered as a sex offender, broke revenue records for boxing, married twice, and is still an active socialite to this day.

Prison is called a correctional facility for a reason. Your instinct is not a substitute for due process. Prosecute and convict with evidence, that's how you enact change; not shame without evidence and forget.

-Lord
okay

I hear you

But I feel other cases should be taken up too.

this one being taken up is because she is popular
CelebritiesRe: Timi Dakolo Dares Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo To Sue Him And His Wife, Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 8:52pm On Jun 28, 2019
bluefilm:
Eyaaa
Bros Timi dey vex say no be im open am first grin grin grin grin
Chai.
that is not the point
Don't be stupid
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 8:42pm On Jun 28, 2019
Kenturkey048:
you alone made sense from this whole gibberish. I av seen similar cases....even if you talk ,,nobody go believe ,,them go even blame you join...seeing situations of rape victims,blame for being raped, severally..even one happened under my nose . elder cousins'(woman) fiancée(man) sexually molesting fiacees' junior cousin(girl)...na the small girl still collect blame...just to cover the whole mezz...you know whathuh .,,till today she still feel pains....
you have said it all

I saw cases like these happen again and again in NiggerArea
that is why victims are often suffering in silence
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 8:39pm On Jun 28, 2019
Kenturkey048:
make we leave neymar Boss,,make I burst your brain small...do you know within that age ,,she can never know she is raped...she lags the will to resist..but its been done without her consent ..see my friend keep telling me she was deflowered by her cousins' fiancée..she explains everything in well detailed form.but the cosin just choose to not believe the poor girl...thats just the sole reason rape victims keep to themselves...........
when these things happen to close relations, then they will understand

For sure this fvcker is guilty, and he keeps getting into hot water

fvckin "man of God" my black arse
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo Reacts To Rape Allegation By Busola Dakolo by Ugosample(m): 8:38pm On Jun 28, 2019
LordAdam16:
Classic boilerplate statement!

Presumption of innocence is an international human right.

As such whether you believe Busola or have ill will against clergy men (or Biodun in particular), either push for this to be taken up criminally or keep your opinions and postulation to yourself.

Biodun is either a rapist or Busola knowingly tried to destroy his life. There is no middle ground. This is a potential crime with real victims. Remember that before you pass hurried judgement whether for or against Biodun.

I feel the need to point this out because of the fanfare this story has received.

-Lord
my instinct tells me that this punk ass fvker is guilty...

For Timi to be on the man case for some time now

and other women coming out

the chance that he is guilty us HIGH

Men like him are disgusting elements who abuse their power to molest girls and do other things


After an incident that almost got my sister raped many many years ago, I Know how these things work,

I Know you very well, and I knows the position you have taken in your mind already *smiles*

We need to nail all these men who take advantage of women
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:27pm On Jun 28, 2019
MrBrownJay1:
morally bankrupt indeed!!!!
all of these people still believe that a tourist abusing the Brazilian free healthcare system (meant only for Brazilians/residents) is RIGHT, simply because there is no law "yet" against it. with such failed state of mind, no wonder Nigeria is going nowhere.
Cest vraimmemt triste
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 8:27pm On Jun 28, 2019
Fallawx:
You don’t expect me to argue bad is good . But on this same issue my say stands my friend. No one fraudulently abuse the Brazil free health care system .

Mind you the public hospital here is open to both foreigners and citizens .

If our system is good nobody go leave the country .
Bro I no sabi your status ooo but as for me ooo I no pray make any of my offsprings pass through half of wetin I encounter during my upbringing for naija .

Almost every middle class for naija they go born abroad . For there own personal reasons but mostly citizenship purposes .
well I am NOT a Nigerian resident like that

(spend less than 3 months there)
and yea, Nigeria is a very hard country to live in

But still.....

all these we are doing to "escape Nigeria" is somewhat crooked

the end justifies the means, like many Nigerians think
But they should not justify such
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 4:56pm On Jun 28, 2019
Fallawx:
No,guilty of what ?
I never born for Brazil sef but my wife and my Kenya born daughter lives there . We pay taxes and enjoy the benefits .

Yes bad is bad . But don’t throw blanket on everyone by saying they all travel to Brazil because of free health care policy .

Only if you know how the legalization of marijuana and meth has destroy their youth and the society . You no go talk about US and drug palava
Bad is bad

Thank God you have admitted to that cheesy
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 3:52pm On Jun 28, 2019
Fallawx:
@justwise never throw a stone when you know very fine you live in a glass house . Are you a saint ? Are you 100% open on this platform and within your entire household ? Make nobody dey form holy holy here abeg .
this up here is admission of guilt

you know that's wrong

But due to "jaapa" levels or whatever
being Nigeria
people do it...


But we have to say the truth
what is bad , is very bad

even if people do it.

Drug dealing is rampant in the USA
But it is never justified, even by those pushing the thing

What is wrong is WRONG
Nigeria un fortunately has not gotten to that level of maturity yet
CelebritiesRe: Bobrisky Reacts Busola Dakolo Rape Allegation Against Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo by Ugosample(m): 3:46pm On Jun 28, 2019
ifymadu:
You just summed it up, that's why Nigeria is where she is today. People reason from their anus and that's why rape victims are scared to speak up...stigmatization. In societies where normal humans live, the authorities would have set up a public prosecutor to begin proper investigations and if on the other hand the lady is found to be lying, she'll be charged as well.

But people will open their mouth and spew rubbish just cos a person says he is a man of god. Does that give him the right to do as he likes?
exactly
FamilyRe: Woman Accuses Maid Of Stealing Her Husband With Charms by Ugosample(m): 10:39am On Jun 28, 2019
kenkel:
some house maids do capitalize on some married women short comings and use diplomacy to win the heart of the man, for example if the woman is the nagging type and dont like cooking, the house maid can capitalize on that and start being soo respectful to the man like wise caring about what he will eat. Like play like play the house maid will become the madam and the former madam will start running from church to church praying against the spell used on her husband not knowing she gave room for that.
this is true
FamilyRe: Woman Accuses Maid Of Stealing Her Husband With Charms by Ugosample(m): 10:31am On Jun 28, 2019
nams77:
Africans!

Something like this actually happened to a neighbour while we were growing up. The house girl eventually took over and became boss.

I know a lot of people may not believe this things do happen, but there are supernatural forces than can be activated to interfere in the natural course of things
you could be right tho
FamilyRe: Woman Accuses Maid Of Stealing Her Husband With Charms by Ugosample(m): 10:30am On Jun 28, 2019
AntiBrutus:
Lol @ Do as I say.

This kind house wey dem still dey use armrest cover. Come arrange milk, lipton and custard for dining. Na im Ogechi wan snatch the head of the house?

Ogechi no get high taste o.
lmao

you cracked me up

she is obviously coming from a worse place
TravelRe: Giving Birth In Brazil by Ugosample(m): 10:15am On Jun 28, 2019
justwise:
I understand your position as it’s very common with many Nigerian when it comes to issues like this.

Lying to obtain something you are not entitled to have it’s not seen as a fraudulent act because many are used to doing that.
Telling the embassy that you are going on holidays while heavily pregnant even when you know your true intentions, you addressed up to cover the pregnancy so as not to be spotted by the immigration, all these are done in other to deceive the authorities. It’s fraudulent and you know it.
exactly so


we do these things; Yea

But the truth is that it's WRONG
CelebritiesRe: ''Sue Me If You Dare''- Busola Dakolo Tells Coza Pastor After Raping Issue by Ugosample(m): 10:14am On Jun 28, 2019
ghen ghen

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