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Read 2 kings 5:27.
The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cling to you and to your seed(children) forever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.

Now, all the doubting thomas is this not generational curse?

Ryda: DID U FIND URSELF IN ANY?

if i am not are there no others passing through this mess

lorretta u: Trust me guys. You don't wanna debate this with me.
Just let it go.

why wont i debate it with you? Are u a monster that i should be scared of you?

Abortion is a serious sin in God's sight and God will punish any parties involved in the termination of pregnancy. Whether u believe it or not doesn't change that fact ok.

Ukuts gp: now if u believe joseph is d father of jesus, why not use holy joseph father of God in ur prays too. It will nt be wrong then. Unless u are saying joseph is nt d father of jesus. That is my point.

is the above not clear enough 4 u?

Goshen360: I will still come up o. I nefa forget this thread o. It might take me some time though but the thread no dey disappear for here naw, so I will come when I'm ready bro. Okay. Please bear with me.

still waiting for ur reply on this controversial issue on nairaland

[quote author=sissy_ijebu][/quote]surprised, baffled or amazed. Which one.

Andyblaze: One thing i still fail to understand is why a woman cannot just have her hair covered for just 3 to 4 hours of service. If a lady is truly beautiful she doesn't have to leave her hair to full display before she is counted as pretty. I guess its the vain mind of today's women who believe the church is a place to show off and flirt.

u are on point.

Syncan: It is time you decide what you believe in. If you are a christian, you do not need to ridicule your faith just to get on the Catholics. It's called cutting the nose just to spite the face.

The Bible all Christians read, did not hide the fact that Joseph did not give birth to Jesus in the natural order. Two places were Jesus geneology given in the Bible, take a look at them.

Matt 1:1-17. The narrator was using father begat son, making emphasis on the father eg vs 15,"And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;" However when it came to Jesus, the emphasis was moved to Mary albeit vs 16 "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

Lk 3 :23. I do not know which bible you use, but the one I have here now says "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli...". Here you see the "as was supposed" ensuring that the reader understands it in it's rightful term, that it was just a supposition.

So if you are a Christian and you make jest when Catholics believe in the Divinity of Christ, for he was begat of God, then you sure do not know what you're doing.

now if u believe joseph is d father of jesus, why not use holy joseph father of God in ur prays too. It will nt be wrong then. Unless u are saying joseph is nt d father of jesus. That is my point.

Can a christian be affected by generational curses. Or does he or she needs deliverance?

[quote author=rapture_ready]James 2:10 : For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

What that means is that God views both the guy who robbed his mama's pot and the guy who robbed first bank as thieves.

Any sin, no matter how "little" will rob you of a place in God's kingdom, & earn you a place in hell, except you truly repent.

However, some sins are indeed more grevious than others, and if Saul & David is anything to go by, will probably receive greater punishment.

Only God can tell that for a fact though.[/quote]of cause u know jame is talking of the law of moses

Do you believe in generational curses?. That is, curses passed on from parents to children and so on. Can curses be passed from parents to their children?
Also can sinful habit such as fornication, womanising, lying, anger, etc be passed on from parents to children? Pls i need ur view on this. Drop ur comments. Thanks.

So between David and king saul whose sins did u think is greater if we would grade sins.

Rich4god: I thought you said you were once a cstholic. If so, the you dont really knw much about the catholic church. We catholics equally pray through Joseph, just like we do ti Mary and other saints. Just that Mary is called the Mother of God because the flesh that Christ took was gotten from her and none from Joseph. Joseph is known as foster father of Jesus.

did d bible say that jesus took his flesh from mary. Did u know what was going on in mary' womb at that time? As far as i am concerned, mary is still the foster mother of jesus. By the way, who ask u to pray through mary?

woky: silent is the best answer givn to a fool.

So u blv all those trash dat enigma has bin postin.. Smh

but u want me to believe your own abi? Which is lies.

I really hv to say well done to Enigma 4 exposing these historical lies pasted by chukwudi and italo on this thread to deceive the gullible. That was why they are ignoring him. It is clear now that italo and his crew knows nothing but historical jagons passed on to them by those liars. They dnt even know scripture, all they know is mere unverified history they know nothing about. All those copy and paste they do cant save them unless they truly repent and come to jesus the saviour of mankind.

The catholic dnt know what they ar doing

njokusboy: Mary was conceived of the holy spirit while she was still a virgin.. Joseph didn't bed her, hence it was calles the immaculate conception..."The angel gabriel told her, "hail mary, full of grace, the lord is with you"... Also, little was heard of joseph after the birth of christ, it was mary that made jesus christ turn the water to wine at the wedding even when he said his time had not come, d same mary stood at the foot of the cross with peter when he was crucified...

My opinion though..

u mean jesus does nt hv a father on earth? U know what those child that does not have a father are called abi.

Are the catholics not partial when they use mary the mother of God and fail to use Joseph the father of God in their prayers? Or is Joseph a figurehead in the birth process of Jesus? If they will use mary, while not use Joseph also? Or is Joseph not the earthly father again as mary is the earthly mother of Jesus? The father which is the head is abandoned while the mother is worshipped. Are they not fooling themselve?
The catholic will not cease to amaze me. I just laugh.

Enigma: The Roman Catholic Church did not canonise anything in the fourth century; it is a lie.

It is also a falsehood to say that the Catholic Church "canonised" the "Bible" in the fourth century --- especially with the subliminal insinuation that it is the Roman Catholic church denomination.

Let us start with Roman catholics: if they say they "canonised" the Bible in the 4th century, then they confirm that their "church" is NOT "infallible"! Why? Because the 4th century lists that they say they "canonised" are different from what they did indeed canonise at Trent in the 16th century. In fact they even pronounce anathemas on people who rely on such lists as the lists of the fourth century.

By this token, they would render Jerome subject to the anathema; they would also render Cajetan (Luther's antagonist) subject to the anathema. Both of these said the Apocrypha is not part of the canon ---- and they were referring to a canon that existed before them and before the fourth century. Meanwhile over 1000 years later, the Roman Catholic Church declares people who rely on such lists as anathema.

The earliest fourth century list that we know of is that of Athanasius --- which the Roman Catholics do not claim and always try to keep quiet about because it exposes their falsehood.

Anyway, the more interesting thing is that Athanasius lets us know that the canon on which he based his list existed looooong before the fourth century. He said it was handed down as accredited and divine to the fathers by those who were eyewitnesses from the beginning.

We know of course of canons much earlier than the fourth century e.g. Origen; so it is no surprise that Athanasius refers to what was handed down.

The Roman Catholic church denomination people might lie till kingdom come. History is that they did not formalise a canon of their own till the 16th century at the Council of Trent. Even then they did not know which was the authentic version of even their own Latin Vulgate and had to commission that it should be prepared --- leading to the comedic infallibility-destroying episode of "pope" Sixtus V.

Roman catholic is built on falsehood. Everyone knows that. They are all bunch of liars. And italo and his crew dnt want to be free. I pity them sha.

[quote author=rapture_ready]Before God, sin is sin.

David truly repented and never attempted to sin against God again.

Saul's repentance was superficial, he continued on sinning in his merry way - tried to kill David, visited the witch at Edom etc.

God punished them both, with David receiving the greater punishment. His own child terrorised him, caused him to run away from the throne and the country, slept with his wives on the rooftop in broad day light etc.

Saul died as a result of his continuing to sin until he exhausted God's patience, not as a result of that initial disobedience.[/quote]pls answer me. Are all sins equal? U mean sins does not have grade?

Oluwatola5: No, that is why we need the Holy Spirit. There is this song that says ''I have no power of my own:......Holy Spirit, i look up to you, help me, I have no power of my own''.

let me ask u, does holyghost fire 'consume' evil spirits? When they say holyghost fire, what kind of fire are they talking about? Physical(literal) or spiritual fire?

Amaaskia: Duh obviously, we females are more matured than those male babies

u must be high with new wine.

Tolexander: It isn't the function of the magnitude of the sin committed but grace !

so u mean that grace work 4 some people while it does nt work 4 some?

Goshen360: King James Bible
And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village. Luke 9:51-56

I have always taught being taught by Spirit that the ministry of Jesus is to bring an 'entirely new way of relationship' with God. He came and ministered to people who carry the mindset of the mosaic teachings but one of the ministry of Christ is a change from the mosaic (the servant hood) to relationship (son ship).

In the light of the above, Christ had to choose those he would teach the coming of the new way or new covenant or new agreement so they can carry on his teachings, changing from the old mindset into the new. Unfortunately, many Christians and Christian leaders are way too far from the ministry of Christ and what the new covenant is all about - they still live in the old mindset and practice the old mixed with the new.

In the above scriptures, the disciples with the old mindset just as it is in our days today, wanted to call down fire like Elijah on those who would not receive\welcome Christ but as Christ is projecting and\or teaching the new way, he said, no! It used to be like that at a time but we're having it in a new way. Why? . . . For [because] the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.

Everyone of us at one time had once being an enemy of God. Should God had destroyed us, what would have become of us? It is the goodness of God that leads to repentance and Christ had not come to destroy any man's life. Those who call fire on their enemies are either ignorant or following man's traditional teachings without checking out the truth for themselves. The fire that Elijah called down was literal and since people had been calling fire on their enemies, what literal fire had come down? This should tell people it is just an exercise in futility.

to be continue . . .

this is just d point. Let those that are praying that way be fooling themselves. Their problem is that they dont want to accept change but they want to remain in their obsolete way of life. It is all left 4 them.

Proverb 6:2.
You are snared with the words of your mouth, you are taken with the words of your mouth.

martinseme: the reasøn has to do with humility,submission and repentance. David as a wise man always wails and repent humbly to GOD when ever he errs, but saul was blantantly too arongant and stubborn against GOD.

saul also asked 4 forgiveness but he was not forgiven. Why?
Read 1 samuel 15:24-25.

nlMediator: Elijah called down fire from Heaven that consumed (the servants of) his enemy. You're using one account - the Baal incident - while ignoring the more relevant one in 2 Kings 1:9-16.

I'm not sure I understand why you think Solomon was an illegitimate son. Or are you confusing him with his brother that died?

I'm also working hard to find the functional difference between worshipping God and expecting your enemies to die and petitioning God for your enemies to die and expecting that to happen. Both worship and petition are forms of prayer. A functional difference would be NOT expecting your enemies to die or even praying for them not to die.

there is nowhere in the new testament where jesus pray that holyghost fire should consume those that opposed him neither did he instruct his disciples to call down fire against their enemies like Elijah. People praying like that are waisting their time, because they wont get answers.

Alright

DrummaBoy: First it was tithing; gotten from the Old Testament.

Then it is Firstfruits: also obtained from the Old Testament.

In the days to comes we shall have an offering called Apostle's Feet Offering: taken from Acts 4:35, the New Testament. In this kind of offering, you whole salary will be required to be taken to church and given to the Pastor. There would be some kind of communal living were the church will pay your children's fees, feed you and give you pittance for fuel in your car.

We will get there in the days to come because people will find scripture to legitimize any kind of fraud.

Where are the famous pro-tithers to lend support to Adeboye's teachings here? My own Pastor, who is an ardent supporter of Adeboye taught us that Firstfruit is not scriptural.

if u dnt know, apostle's feet offering is already in existence nw.

Read 1 samuel 15 and 2 samuel 11 and tell the house whose sin is greater. Saul and his children died as a result of his sin(1 samuel 31) , while David did not. The question now is whose sin is greater between the two of them. I also want reasons why one payed for his sins while the other escaped it. Thanks.

asco15: I just had an Epiphany.
The israelites made the golden calf to represent d God dat brought dem out of d land of Egypt because dey dn't knw Him (GOD) and dn't knw hw He look. Dats y Aaron accepted d idea since dey dn't see Moses again 4 a long time and they worship the image, thinking they are worshiping the God that brought them out of the land of Egypt. No wonder they dn't call d image Baal or name it after any gods but they name it after the God dat brought dem out of Egypt. And still God was angry with dem.
Read Exodus 32.
Ex.32:4' and he received them at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving tool, after he had made it a molten calf; and they said, These be thy gods, o israel, which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt '
And dats wat d cath ch r doing. No image cn stand in place of God, Jesus or Mary. Isaiah 42:8. Rom.1:23,25.
Be warn, 4 thou r inexcusable on dat day.

u ar on point. I love ur post. One day they will be free from d shackles of idolatory and pagan practices.