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Hadampson:
I disagree with the "will never be part because nigeria would be great ONE DAY, maybe in 5,000 years time

The question that usually infuriates me the most is WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO DEVELOP THIS COUNTRY?

Please do i look like a builder or politician?
I know the development of a nation depends on the people and the leaders. In Nigeria, people are not that powerful, our leaders are but what are they doing? they are doing what they know how to do best, that is to embezzle the public funds and run to a sane country to enjoy the money with their families.

I have done alot of things to change people's mentality. Guess what, they are far from changing.

Seriously, as i am o, i no fit work for Nigeria, even if i get work for NNPC. I don't care. What i care about is myself and if possible, i want to invest, Nigeria would be the place... That is the least i can do for Nigeria.

I swear , that fucking gets annoying

Gerrard59:
For emphasis sake.

I've been saying these words (the bold) for a long time but brainless people (anyone who supports a Nigerian politician) keep arguing that things will get better. Newsflash!!! Nothing will get better.

You see brainless people supporting useless people who call themselves politicians, you've them everywhere saying this and that. It's why whenever anything happens these days, I've a numb felling towards the incident. Nigerians deserve whatever they face.

And anyone who says praying will solve the problem is a cretinous fvcktard!

I wish you the best in your endeavours.

Jesus !!!

No chill

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TonyeBarcanista:
Continue praying for Nigeria

If it we're by prayer , this country would have been better than u.s.a

dalaman:
Am not a muslim. Answer the question. Will the Jews despite their disbelief in Jesus go to heaven or not?

Why the bloody hell are the Christians on this thread dodging this simple question?

These people shout from morning till night that all those who disbelieve in Jesus can never make heaven

So is it that Jews have become so big that even sin can't hold them down from making heaven .

PastorAIO:
When I mentioned China I was talking about consistency. It might not dominate now but up until about 2 hundred years ago it was for a long time the most advanced society in the world.

Persia is also way past it's golden era. Egypt is way past it's golden era. Scotland is way past it's golden era. Italy is way past it's golden era. But that's my point exactly. They all have eras/periods in which they dominated for a while, but it wasn't consistent.

Your suggestion is that there is something special about the Jews because they have risen in prominence in the last 150/200 years. My point is that if it is something ingrained in the people it would always have been there throughout all of their history.

If you have something to say about Scots plagiarising other people's works then just spit it out, otherwise I don't know what you're talking about.

True .

But what if Yahweh decided that 150 to 200 tears was the right time to prosper them

PastorAIO:
When I mentioned China I was talking about consistency. It might not dominate now but up until about 2 hundred years ago it was for a long time the most advanced society in the world.

Persia is also way past it's golden era. Egypt is way past it's golden era. Scotland is way past it's golden era. Italy is way past it's golden era. But that's my point exactly. They all have eras/periods in which they dominated for a while, but it wasn't consistent.

Your suggestion is that there is something special about the Jews because they have risen in prominence in the last 150/200 years. My point is that if it is something ingrained in the people it would always have been there throughout all of their history.

If you have something to say about Scots plagiarising other people's works then just spit it out, otherwise I don't know what you're talking about.

True

PastorAIO:
It[b] is just as weird as the fact that for a few decades in the 18th and 19th centuries Scotland was at the vanguard of intellectual achievements in almost every field. The period was even known as the Scottish Enlightenment.
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Or as weird as the fact that most of Europe's greatest cultural trailblazers seem to all be German. You name the field. Is it Music? They produced Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Haydn ......
Is it philosophy? They produced Hegel, Heidegger, Nietzsche, Kant, Schopenhauer, Leibniz ......


Again, it is obvious that most cultures at some point or the other have a period when they flourish above others. It only lasts a period. What would be weird is if it were a consistent thing throughout their history. If the Germans or the Scottish or the Jews were always at the vanguard of progress all the time throughout their history then I would say that that was weird.
However this isn't true of any of these peoples. In fact the only people that I can say have been at the vanguard of human accomplishments with any consistency would be the Chinese people. Now what do you have to say about that?

Finally, if we are to study those periods of flourishing amongst different cultures one thing that strikes me as being a common thread is the tendency during that period to rigorously question Authority.
Is it not also interesting that most of those outstanding Jews that impress you are mostly Athiests?

In the u.k , not even in Europe , talk less of the world

PastorAIO:
It is just as weird as the fact that for a few decades in the 18th and 19th centuries Scotland was at the vanguard of intellectual achievements in almost every field. The period was even known as the Scottish Enlightenment.



Or as weird as the fact that most of Europe's greatest cultural trailblazers seem to all be German. You name the field. Is it Music? They produced Beethoven, Mozart, Bach, Haydn ......
Is it philosophy? They produced Hegel, Heidegger, Nietzsche, Kant, Schopenhauer, Leibniz ......


Again, it is obvious that most cultures at some point or the other have a period when they flourish above others. It only lasts a period. What would be weird is if it were a consistent thing throughout their history. If the Germans or the Scottish or the Jews were always at the vanguard of progress all the time throughout their history then I would say that that was weird.
However this isn't true of any of these peoples. In fact the only people that I can say have been at the vanguard of human accomplishments with any consistency would be the Chinese people. Now what do you have to say about that?

Finally, if we are to study those periods of flourishing amongst different cultures one thing that strikes me as being a common thread is the tendency during that period to rigorously question Authority.
Is it not also interesting that most of those outstanding Jews that impress you are mostly Athiests?

If by vanguard , you mean plagiarising inventions of other nations then I don't know what to say.

China is way past it's golden era.

When it comes to dominance , Europeans even dominate more than Chinese people

PastorAIO:
It hasn't been consistent throughout their history so it's got nothing to do with any yahweh promise.

And I don't think that it is that weird.

So it isn't weird how in every field apart from sports and crime , Jews always dominate.

Or that in South Africa , Jews who are merely 70 000 are also able to dominate there .

South Africa of over 50 million in population.

70000 Jews produced 5 Nobel prize winners in the hard sciences.

Produced a former South African central bank governor.

28 percent of South african billionaires are Jews.

It got to the extent that even South African blacks started to complain that the Jews were becoming to successful for their liking , controlling all the banks.


Several of South African ministers are Jews.

Their positions in South African government isn't normal for just 70k people.

The best schools in South Africa are Jewish schools.

The man who sentenced Mandela to life imprisonment was a Jew , the man who was Nelson Mandela's lawyer was also a Jew .

Bros , their success defies logic.

PastorAIO:
How many of the exceptional Jews are Atheists?

Isn't it odd that as more Jews become atheist the better they seem do in life?

What if yahwehs promise was never contingent on their beliefs ?

The success of the Jews was and is very weird

peanutbutter:
Bro no offense but you're UGLY AF. You can't even pass as average looking lmao. But I love your confidence sha. Like you said, self love is all that matters but make no mistake, you're not good looking in any way.

Haba

abdulsemiu02:
More

She's pretty af

Naijiant:
See more questionable claims by Kanu and video: https://www.naijiant.com/videos/nnamdi-kanu-makes-questionable-claims-on-israeli-tv/

This kanu just dey yarn rubbish.

50 million igbos practising judaism

See lie

davodyguy:
This is the simple truth.

If we're all reasonable, we would realize that salary increment is not what we need now but for infrastructure to be fixed, sound economy and low commodities prices.

At ₦18,000 more than 25 Governors out of 36 owed workers, cos they couldn't afford it with revenue drop. Why would anyone think when you increase, they would be able to pay?

Yoruba says owó tí kò sí, jedi jẹdi ọ lè gbà. Not even stomach upset can take the money that's non existent
Even at ₦18,000 if dollar exchange to ₦ is back to below ₦200, there's constant electricity, purchasing power automatically goes up.

Prices are high, you increase salaries, the sellers automatically adjusts their products prices immediately to benefit from the more money in circulation.

Only employers of Labour and sound economists would understand

But alas, govt will increase it just to enter for second term.

momoyama:
Developed in what sense? It is a small country with a population of only 350,000. But it has a very high income level and standard of living. It attracts many migrants.

Wow.

Repping Africa well.

momoyama:
I am from the Bahamas and I am sure that Tanzanians are required to get a visa to enter here. Besides, even if not, they would need to get visas to enter the countries they need to transit in order to get here.

Leaving one's home to try to 'hustle' illegally in another country is NEVER a good idea. The detention centre here is FULL of people from all over the world, waiting to be deported.

How developed is the Bahamas ?

morpheus24:
Well technically speaking Moors and Egyptians had stocks of sub Saharan peoples so it is not incorrect to conclude that there were black people from these ethnic groups.

Abeggggiiii


These lies have been thoroughly debunked time and time again

But the Blacks outside Africa, on the average, don't score up to Caucasians or Asians, even when Black children are adopted by Caucasian parents in completely different environments.

Can you stop being defensive and engage with my argument? I never said IQ tests are a conclusive test for intelligence, what I said was that it correlates with the aspects of intelligence I used in the caveat I stated in my previous response to you. I will state that caveat again: Although IQ tests aren't the best judge of intelligence, it's results are highly indicative of the learning ability, critical thinking, complex problem solving and abstract reasoning.

I think you need to make more research about IQ tests.

And IQ tests aren't even the bedrock of my argument. I examined sub-saharan Africa's history and its current picture and I found it reflective of an intellectual inferiority to other races and regions. My arguments are in my first two posts. I think you missed it.

God bless you.

Not only sub Saharan Africa. Look at Polynesia , the only developed country in that region is New Zealand and it's run and dominated by whites and the other countries in the region that are run by native Polynesians are nothing to write home about.


Same thing with melanesia.

These races are not black.but they had Stone age civilizations and stone age iqs just like us.



All this is a matter of human races and their iq

nora544:
please when you write something than lok what you write

since when is Beethoven who was described as a 'blackamor' a black man such a stupid writing.

The oldest Universities are in fes is from 800 and kairo and bagdad, the university in mali is since 988

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankore_Madrasah
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universit%C3%A4t_al-Qaraw%C4%ABy%C4%ABn
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mustansiriyya-Universit%C3%A4t

and the oldest university of europa is not in spain it is in italiy in salerno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schola_Medica_Salernitana
and the other old university is in Bologna in italy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Bologna

the moors are not black africans this are the people from nord africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors

since when is jesus black when you see the people from israel than you know the color of the skin

The moors are not black the moors are arab and it comes from a country

The Romans interacted with (and later conquered) parts of Mauretania, a state that covered modern Morocco, western Algeria, and the Spanish cities Ceuta and Melilla during the classical period. The people of the region were noted in Classical literature as Mauri, which was subsequently rendered as "Moors" in English.[9] It is often common in modern times to apply the appellation of "Moor" or "Moors" to North Africans, especially Moroccans, although some find this derogatory.

Isidore of Seville, writing in the seventh century, claimed that the Latin word Maurus was derived from the Greek mauron, μαύρον, which is the Greek word for black.[10]
Modern meanings

In the Medieval Romance languages (such as Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian), the Latin word took such forms as moro, moir, mor, mouro and maur. From denoting a specific Berber people in western Libya, the name acquired more general meaning in the Romance languages during the medieval period, partly developing a general meaning of "Muslim", partly (much like "Saracens" taking a religious meaning of "infidels" in the context of the Crusades and the Reconquista.

Beside its usage in historical context, Moor and Moorish (Italian and Spanish: moro, French: maure, Portuguese: mouro, Romanian: maur) are used to designate an ethnic group speaking the Hassaniya Arabic dialect. They inhabit Mauritania and parts of Algeria, Moroccan Sahara, Tunisia, Morocco, Niger and Mali. In Niger and Mali, these peoples are also known as the Azawagh Arabs, after the Azawagh region of the Sahara.[11]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors read this than you will see that moors are arab people and not black africans

Is it that sub Saharan African kingdoms are so underwhelming that a lot of blacks are forced to claim that Moors and egyptains and Greeks were black.

bebe2:
Long story

Why we con backward like this?

LmFao

Bitterleafsoup:
You are wrong.

Have you heard of Nubia?

I have heard of nubia

Bitterleafsoup:
Sudan has more pyramids then Egypt 223 exact.

It has more pyramis which are all badly short and nothing but cheap imitations and a legacy of egypta iron handed rule for hundreds of years

Bitterleafsoup:
Kush conquered Egypt what is the race of Kushites?

The kushites were black.

By the time the kushites conquered Egypt it was already a shadow of itself.too weak


Ruled by countless other people .by then they were just passing them like baton the pic below are the Nubian pyramids

ril19:
Most of the responsible commentators have basically touched on the fundamental issue responsible for the current and seemingly perpetual backwardness of Africa. For the sake of emphasy, prior to the scramble and resultant colonization of Africa, the black man have always wanted to remain the way he was. The typical African man is afraid of change, exploration, and quest. Take for example the area of medicine. Africa only discovered the roots and herbs in their immediate environment but could not go further than that. Today, on the other hand, as a result of education, the white man is able to prepare such roots and herbs and convert it to more convenient substance for consumption. Someone stated that all other continents already had education before their colonialists came. You can imagine the shock that greeted the Europeans as they entered into a completely unexposed and uneducated black world.
The psyche of the black after the colonial era has not not even helped the issue any bit. Neo-colonial slavery has taken over. The African man, somewhat naturally, considers "himself" inferior to the white man. The African man sees his home as not "home enough" and that is why there is a continuous push for Europeby young people in Africa.

That is totally not true.

Australia , large parts of the Americas , New Zealand , and melanesia were operating at either the same level or at a lower level than we were .

Seun:
Agreed. Though this was just recently discovered.


I'll abandon this line of argument and go back to the point that only Canaan was cursed in the passage that inspired this thread. The purpose of the story of Canaan being cursed was to justify the ethnic cleansing of the land of Canaan by the Israelites. Biblical authors view Ham's son Kush as the ancestor of black Africans and he was not cursed. So there is no biblical basis for the notion that blacks are cursed.

If you believe that black people are cursed, how do you explain Obama, Serena Williams, Michael Jordan, Dangote, Oprah Winfrey, Beyonce?

Lol , I have never for once believed the silly story of Noah . And the thing is that cannaan was cursed and not Ham , maybe the isrealites used this to justify their destruction of Canaan.

Black people are not cursed , blacks are just wired differently.

Seun:
Hmm. How about Egypt and the Benin kingdom?

, Egypt is not a black mans creation. Egyptians were not black.


What is Benin kingdom compared to when 2000 years ago , Romans where building colloseums when blacks where still struggling to use rafia nad mud to build mud houses.

Seun:
Diakim,

If one reads that passage carefully, it appears that not all of Ham's descendants were cursed. Only the Canaanites, who were the subject of a prolonged campaign ('ethnic cleansing' in today's terms) by Joshua and the Isrealites ...

Anyway, my point is that even if Africa is actually cursed, it is not written in that particular passage of the bible. Besides, there have been times in history when certain African nations were world powers, so we can't attribute our current problems to a curse.

Really ......

Pls give examples

Obi1kenobi:
You're deluding yourself wih these distorted tales, bro. The fact remains that the famous, huge, 60,000-seater, concrete Coliseum in Rome was constructed about 2,000 years ago at a time when sub-Saharan African tribes could barely erect a mud hut with thatched straw roofs. And why does every black man on the planet, from African Americans to South Africans like to claim the ancient glory of Egypt as their own? Perhaps, the Sudanese and their immediate neighbours may have once roamed North Africa in greater numbers and dominated (even that is contestable history) Egypt and other Nubian territories at the time but certainly the majority of the West African ethnicities right down to the Bantu tribes and Southern Africa have no claim to that glory. Before the industrial revolution you talk of, Europe was already by far the most advanced civilization on the planet and their measurable, attributable contributions across all fields of human endeavour were already unmatched. Europe subdued and colonized Africa with minimum fuss because in just about every ramification of human advancement, they were superior to us as a collective. Much superior to the extent they saw us as sub-humans. These are painful to rehash but the truth is often bitter. These are people that even fled their European homeland and created a new heaven wherever they went: America, Canada, South America, Australia, South Africa etc while indigenous populations in those places were stagnant. These are people who have even conquered space.

Note that I firmly believe every human being is an individual and great variations in intellect exist among individuals within the same races. But as a collective, it's hard to look around you at the marvels of the modern world and not admit the caucasian has contributed so much more intellectual capital to it than the black man. We can offer every excuse under the sun but the white race is superior as a collective to the black race. It's not inferiority complex to admit that. It's just conceding plain, evident fact of which there are a million reasons to justify the fact.

And for your info, the fact they are called "caucasians" has nothing to do with living in caves in the caucasus at any time in history. Afterall, if you're a believer in evolution, you should know Africa is the origin of the entire human race.

U have made sense brother.

It seems like the whole process of blacks having their own countries is an aberration , .

That should explain why every single black country is an eyesore

psucc:
Don't misrepresent facts.

Africa developed spiritually and oyingbo developed physically.

How many Whitman can fly from Naija to America and back the same night?

Development na development.

Lmao

igbodefender:
They are one-language countries. The Arab countries speak Arabic. China speaks Chinese. Korea speaks Korean. Nigeria speaks 400 different languages. That is currently a weakness, but it is up to us to turn it into a sthrength. Nobody will do it for US. United we stand, divided we fall.

Africa hadn't evolved to a certain level before colonialism placed us in a time warp. But like Singapore, we can turn that to our advantage if only we can throw away the yokes of tribalism.

Another silly excuse, Lesotho has only one ethnic group and today the country is shit .it is even shittier than Nigeria .

For every silly excuse you people give , there are always countries of that example that are banana shithole republics

Obi1kenobi:
Poverty and underdevelopment have nothing to do with colonization. And almost every human civilization has at some point been colonized by an occupying power. These are lazy excuses black people and Africans often allude to in excusing their failures.

I swear , the African American version is blaming slavery for his failures and high crime rate in the society.

onila:
that means Africans situation is more than the effects of colonization

ethiopia economically ain't doing well so much better than other African countries

Am starting to think that the problem is genetic

Oreofepeters:
Hello nairalanders, could you do a thorough research on my observations below.......

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4. This may not be entirely true, but even countries like India, Mexico, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and the middle east, the darker part of the population seems to be the poorest....





Cc Lalasticlala mynd44 Dominique

The black people in India are not from Africa and don't have anything to with Africa.Their states are arguably the richest states in india.and they are often the smartest Indians