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nice one

This is good news.I mean very good news. Nice we are starting from somewhere.

noetic15:
u should simply ask urself. . .how does the holy spirit speak? and what does he say?. . .how then can there be numerous interpretations of what he says?

stop celebrating your ignorance.

You tell me brother. He speaks to you.

Dede1:
Is Saul also among the prophets? You are worse than intellectual midget since both you and JTF could not differentiate between the apparatus for distillation of Ogogoro or Akamere or Ekpeteshi or Sapele water and that used to refining crude oil. If there were illegal refineries in the creeks of southern Nigeria, why did JTF fail to show the pictures of such structures while going public?

Well said brother.

@chucks ndudi,
I am not promoting criminal activities but you can't have technology unless you do something similar to what those guys are doing.An undeveloped people MUST steal technology and use it illegally before it is standardized. Destryoying those refineries was stupid.

The government has no programme in place to encourage small refineries like theirs. You gotta pay thru your nose to obtain licence in addition to "settling" many lords at the nnpc.

Kay 17:
see confuson in the house of God.

Kashif:
Point blank. So incoherent a story!

Thank you brother.
You see these same Naija Graduates who can not analyze the coherence of a simple story will be the ones to complain that their degrees are underrated abroad. Cram and pass.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=367137.msg5139491#msg5139491 date=1261139266]How can you forget about the bunkering criminals and exploiters of youths when the topic at hand is about illegal refineries? Helping the marginalized youths of the area and in fact the whole country is a different issue entirely.

Why is it difficult for you people to accept that these "refinery operators" are criminals? Would it be because they are from your tribe or region?[/quote]You have just proven that you know nothing about technological empowerment. Nobody will legally transfer to you a technology that he uses to hold you magha. If you must stop beign a magha then you gotta steal the technology and some of his customers ^{learn from Japan and China}

Beaf:
The refineries are 100% locally made. They differ widely in complexity, some are incredidibly crude and add to the damage to the environment; others are highly sophisticated (some manned by unemployed chemical engineers and other professionals) and need to be regulated by govt, instead of being destroyed.

These boys have shown that refining fuel isn't rocket science and we can seize a great percentage of our oil industry. But, as usual, the FG will never believe Nigerians are capable until the day they start seeing illegal oil wells .

We need true federalism, so that the ND can control its destiny and harness Nigerian talent.

You don't know how happy this makes me?Waohhh ! We are getting there.

smoothine:
We already know way back since april that this 6000mw is not going to happen.so it means the minister is very daft and senseless to be realising just now in dec that the target cannot be met.silly man ,he should resign and let people of great ideas and integrity run the power sector instead of these political jobless and senseless men.Why cant [b]prof bart nnaji [/b]be minister for power and steel in nigeria .

Who is he please?

@Mavenbox and Noetic,
Is it the same holy spirit that is leading you or is it everyman to his own ^invented holy spirit

I am happy for you bro.

@wirinet
You will be surprised the guy will soon sell many copies to the millions of deluded goons we have around. The guy has eventually figured out a variation of how the many phoney pastors make dough in Naija. False, unverifiable testimonies.

So, heaven and hell are now in some physical locations.right

@poster,
I will you (or whosoever the author is) well in your new business venture.

Well,whether we like it or not we must from the early years of our lives subscribe to some dogma. A little child learns only by listening to adults. But if when you are grown up and equipped with analytical abilities you still wish to believe in a talking snake in a fictitious garden its up to you.

One of the most stupid thing is the claim of being led by a single perfect omniscient holy spirit and yet contradictory interpretations. RRRRRRUBBISH

Oh.So, he is back. Welcome huxley.

jcross22:
IF YOU LIKE SAY ANYTHING YOU LIKE ABOUT HIS COMING THAT CAN'T STOP THE WILL OF GOD UNLESS IF GOD DOES NOT EXIST . JESUS CHRIST WILL COMES WHEN THE GOSPEL GET INTO THE UTTER MOST PART OF THE WORLD , I MEAN THE WHOLE WORLD WILL HEAR IT THE NON-CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES WILL KNOW ABOUT HIM SO THAT THEY WILL BE KNOW EXCUSE ON THAT DAY. IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOME PART OF NIGERIA HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT JESUS , SO ALL THESE PEOPLE MUST KNOW .

You can resign from your job and go tell dem all about Jesus coming.

She can even do more than 365 times a year if she does more once daily.But the point is a new guy every 12 days in just one school is unrealistic.

I agree that people should stop random screwing but inventing false stories to support such will in the long run make people to reject the warning altogether.That's what's happening in religion these days.

xtristo:
why not?what about the love-peddlers who have sex everyday?that will be at least 365 men in one year let alone 124 in three years.it is very possible.what about the lady that broke the record recently in the Guiness Book of Records.go and find out then u will understand the possibility

I feel so sorry for you shallowness of analysis. We are talking of the possibility of 1 girl sleeping with [b]a new guy every 12 days in just one school[/b]l. Are you really this dumb

[quote author=phuck_NL link=topic=367114.msg5131135#msg5131135 date=1261044129]Simply solution = Federal govt should lay its hands off power completely.
Let companies generate power and decide who they want to supply to. Let retail distributors buy their own transformers and distribution cables then determine who they want to service. If this is done, we will have uninterrupted power in 2yrs time.[/quote]Good thinking bro.
But the engineering aspect of power consists of 1 Generation , 2 Transmission 3 Distribution
1 Generation ---- Many companies can do this
2 Transmission --- Also called National Grid is usually centralized. Each company can not have its own transmission channel.
3. Distribution ---- Whether you choose underground cables or overhead wires, only one company can supply power to an area. Multiple companies mean too many poles and wires since we are mainly using overhead aluminium wires in naija.

I think a more technically feasible solution (of course its related to your proposal) is to have state grids instead of national grid. Each state decides how it generates electricity for its inhabitants.A single Transmission and Distribution company (may still be state govt owned) but many Generation companies can pump their generated power into the state grid.

Afam:
When all they do is collect or solicit money from the banks to give them awards while keeping the difference as profit what do you expect.

I am beginning to see a similar thing in the web industry where some companies organize and give awards to some IT companies even when the organizers don't know A from B.

With time, mediocrity and shameless "money for hand back for ground" ways of doing business will give way.

We have a lot of egg hands taking decisions that affect us all in Nigeria and that is a very serious issue.

You couldn't have said it bera.

sh!t

Illegal refineries are detrimental to the nations short term economic development but may be beneficial to the nation's long term technological and hence economic development only if those refineries are locally fabricated by Nigerians.

Illegal refineries get illegal crude oil,refine and sell mainly to outside Nigeria in the international black market without paying any tax to Nigeria. That is why it will not help our economy right now.It will only enrich the few people directly involved and mind you the must keep their business hush hush.

However, if our people actually made those refineries ^{and not some dubious Asians} then we need to encourage them more and we may very well be on our way to localizing the technology of refineries.

Now, I am feeling very sorry for the future of Nigeria.
How do people just swallow information without any cross examination yet we claim Nigerians are intelligent.Huh?

The story IS a hoax.

Why should simple arithmetic defeat your intelligence?

Brothers,
Until we learn to analyze things properly before accepting or believing, the country will not achieve anything meaningful not only in electricity but in all aspects of our national development.

As we are all aware,we have 24 hours in a day. I believe a serious government will not be talking about 6,000 Mega Watts when the lay man who voted does not understand what 1 megawatt means. Rather, they will say something like "Right now we have an average of 5 hours of electricity supply daily and we are promising to achieve 8 hours by December 2009". Like that, it will be easy for anybody to monitor the progress and not wait till deadline before realizing that yaraduas 6,000MW magic generator won't happen.

By the way if i may ask. How many hours a daily electricity are we suppose to expect from 6,000MW?