₦airaland Forum

asunaobi:
Well my friend, I will tell you the good news and the bad news. The good news being that you have just come to your senses and the bad news being that you have just been duped.

LOL

People are deceived because they wish to be deceived. You have your common sense. If you believe that a snake was talking to your great grandma, Eve 6,000 years ago and never questioned that, then you have paved the way for your own falling into the hands of deceivers called men of God.

The bible does not guarantee that all will be well with you on earth if you serve God properly. _{John the Baptist was beheaded for f**ck' sake.}

So,let no man of God tell you it shall be well with you. It's just a psychological method of using fear-and-hope to enslave your mind.

javalove:
@poster

Gone are the days when programmers bother themeslves about which language is better. Bother yourself about meeting the needs of your clients. I am a java programmer to the core but if i ever need to use .NET anywhere, i wont hesitate. Java is strong, as in strong enough to last me a life time without looking elsewhere. . .but if i ever ever need to use .net or any other language, i wont hesitate. thats how professionals think. dont get emotional over what is not.

Technologies die, new ones are born, old prejudices pass away, THE CONSUMERS DONT GIV A F CUK ABOUT ALL THAT!!!

Very correct pally.

MyJoe:
Religion and Rationality - I am thinking with my fingers, but what do you think?

I listen to late night radio – those shows where you call to talk to an Agony Aunt about a man you have gone out with for ten years yet has refused to propose marriage what should you do?, or where future husbands who are looking for future wives call to meet future wives who are looking for future husbands who are looking for future wives. One thing that never ceases to amaze me is that people simply can’t define what they want in a partner. After the common “tall, dark and handsome”, what you often hear is “He must be God fearing.” “She should be nice.” “He must be working.” Very rarely do you hear something you might hear and say “oh, that excludes me” like, “She should have a sense of humour, be ready to move and be able to watch a sunset.” More seriously, I think that if the wisest men that ever walked the planet were brought together and asked to enlighten us at to what brings a man and a woman together, what keeps them together and what breaks them apart, they would be unable to help us.

And the same would apply to how we come to accept a set of beliefs, discard them for a new set, then discard everything, and later start believing again. Even though we can identify fear, self preservation and bandwagon as some of the motivations behind religionism, these do not suffice to explain the religion phenomenon.

You see, a kid of six in Kano wielding a stick can control a hundred cattle. A barely literate “prophet” armed with a few catch phrases, a little charisma and Gideon’s Bible can get some of the most intelligent men kneeling down, standing up and falling down at his command. (No, you don’t need to have read Machiavelli or Greene. These things come naturally, enough.)

It seems reason goes on recess at the approach of religion (and patriotism!). Here at Nairaland you see people who clearly decided to believe something and then started looking for ways to validate it. It ought to be the other way round! Nowhere is this more noticeable than efforts to present the Trinity as rational or to fit into the Bible what it does not say. I read in one thread that Adam was not the first man in the book of Genesis. This even though it is clear the two separate verses cited repeated the creation of the same man and all the writers of the Bible, including Jesus’ apostles and the cerebral St Paul, clearly wrote with the perspective that Adam was the first man. And UFOs are in the Bible! How about the Muslims who go to the ridiculous extent of ascribing to the Bible what it does not say just to discredit it, while presenting the Quran as the most illuminating authority on science which contains the blueprint for space exploration, DNA mapping and nanotechnology, the quintessential guide spurned by scientists at mankind’s peril?

It would be refreshing candid, therefore, if we sometimes hear statements like: “Sorry, I can’t really explain the Trinity to you rationally and the biblical support for it is tenuous and without consensus. But I accept it because it is what the church teaches and as a Christian I have no doubt that the church is guided by the Holy Spirit.”

But that is an unrealistic expectation. I do not think it is possible to be a good follower of a religion while maintaining a truly rational approach. A religious person who attempts it with a high degree of honesty will likely end up in a situation known in psychology as cognitive dissonance. He may soon give up the religion, altogether. And so what religious people do is to accept by faith, paper over the craters and move on. A non-religious person might find this hard to comprehend, but it really is simple enough: [i]since the religion is of God, everything it says must be right. God can’t be wrong. [/i]This fantastic short circuit is what is spectacularly responsible for stopping the believer from taking a dogma-by-dogma approach. Religion, therefore, is not rational. Once you accept it you follow it dogmatically. “We” become right, “they” become wrong. Otherwise you become a bad follower of the faith. You may recall the spontaneous consternation in the African dioceses when the cerebral and rational Rowan Williams was appointed the spiritual leader of the Anglicans.

There will always be conflict between the literalists (like Archbishop Akinola) and the non-literalists (like Archbishop Williams). Truth to tell, the idea that the holy books were written to be reinterpreted by intellectuals is disingenuous. It would be more honest if religious leaders told us two things: (1) The holy books were clearly written to be given a literal interpretation. (2) But the times have overtaken them and such literal interpretation would take the book closer to the Neanderthals than contemporary society. This would leave us with two options: (1) Disband the religions as not having originated truly from an all-knowing, unchanging God. (2) Say something like: “Well, prophets wrote it in the language of their day so it could be comprehended. Our critical task today is to adapt it to our times and make it useful. We know this will not be easy since there are contradictions and different people are likely to interpret things differently. We appeal for patience from all.”

The absence of rationality, though, is not necessarily an indictment of religion. As I asserted in the first paragraph, we often take some of life’s most important decisions irrationally. We are emotional, not rational. Alexander Pope, in the poem Essay on Man, which I consider the greatest literary work written as yet outside of the Bible, asserts:

Two principles in human nature reign;
Self-love, to urge, and reason, to restrain;
Nor this a good, nor that a bad we call,
Each works its end, to move or govern all:
And to their proper operation still
Ascribe all Good, to their improper, Ill.

I am just thinking with my fingers. But what do you think? Is religion compatible with rationality?

IMO, it is not.

@krayola,
i don't really think u will find the church business easy.You need to be able to lie with a straight face to run the biz.

300+ billion naira embezzlement is not a mistake in my own dictionary.
we can say he was just putting up a front to lure christians to love his bank.

Sprumbaba:
In my house, I don't know how to operate the washing machine. I don't also know where our blender and pots are. I always see my clothes washed and ironed (Also when we were boy friend & girl friend).I have never heard any complaint. I even went to school to be able to operate our complicated microwave.

From my survey, girls that come from broken homes or with family crisis are very mean. Most of them have not seen love exists between their parent for 24 hours. They see their fathers as the Evil One and they are extending the same notion towards all men. We have seen some of their posts on this thread.

Really, I am talking from experience. The joy I see between my father and mother after 42 years of marriage is joyful to watch and that is the foundation i have also laid for myself.


Guys, look before you leap. As a boy friend and girl friend, test them with house chores and see if they will resist (In the future, she will slap frying pan on your head). Pls, don't marry a woman with Nairaland(OPRAH) Women Emancipation mentality.


Let me point this out, there is nothing I cannot do for my wife (She deserves it). I help her a lot and this comes as a natural thing to me.

Man,you took these words right out of my mouth.

ThoniaSlim:
Seriously do you know why they hit people at the back of their heads? because that's where the stupidity is stored!


I've got to say some women have got a long way to go!

A lot of women take this feminism crap too far! and before some of you go yidi yada. . .I'm also a feminist. . .

But let us address the true meaning of feminism. . .Some of you screaming "I'm a feminist" do you truly understand the true meaning of feminism?

Or do you just spew sturvs from your mouths without having a clear understanding of what your saying. ,

Feminism is not all about screaming Oh I'm equal to the dude and all that crap. . .women like Hillary Clinton are what I call true feminists. . .because they understand what its true meaning is. . .

feminism is not about fighting to be a man's equal or throwing your duties away as a woman. . .But its rather all about embracing your gift as a woman. . . exploring your hidden potentials,going beyond your limits and being the best you can be to yourself, family and the society at large. . .

Back to the issue at hand. . .Yes Its may not be compulsory to you but its something I'll happily do cus that's a sensible thing to do!

Now I'm not making excuses for men. . .but I like to look at it from different point of views. . .sometimes we women are the cause of our own problems with men!

Men and women are also like switches. . .you click the right switch and they treat you right. . .ONly and I quote only the foolish men and men who do not fear God would treat you otherwise. . .

You do a real man right. . .watch and see if he'll ever take you for granted! 

Thoniaslim, I sincerely hope many others learn from your post.

The guy's action added more to my knowledge bank. I thought it was only a "povertized" person with no hope of making anything good out of this world who will fall for the temptation of hurriedly blowing himself up to go and claim some rewards in an imaginary paradise. Now, I have learned a new thing.

@pharoh,
thanks for your wisdom here.

@lovehatemoi,
pls grow up and stop getting worked up over nothing.

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VALIDATOR:
W - washing
I - ironing
F - bleeping
E - etc

No be me talk am oooooo.

I did not say bleeping.Na dis word filtering stuff, Here it is again

W - washing
I - ironing
F - f,ucking
E - etc

W - washing
I - ironing
F - fucking
E - etc

No be me talk am oooooo.

Afam:
I don't excuse the nonsense that goes on in Nigeria. I am only pointing out the fact that the US should face their own problems and stop their predictions as regards other countries.

When Nigerians are ready they will change Nigeria. For now they are not yet ready based on the comments and understanding of the problems in Nigeria by Nigerians.

This is so right my brother.

@Abuzola,
I asked you this very important question here. Still waiting for your reply,

@nateevs,
while I undoubtedly believe that BRF's achievements in a single term has already surpassed that of Tinubu's 2 terms, I will like you to also ponder on the following:

1. Tinubu took over from the military. So,there was really no working system in place. He built a system that can work and BRF coming on board had something real to work with. LASTMA, LAWMA,BRT, LASUTH,etc are all systems that BRF inherited functioning.
2.Tinubu had a lot of political battle to fight toward the end of his first term. All other south-west states lost to PDP. Tinubu defended Lagos from the sharks._{You don't know how difficult that is pally?}
3. During his 2nd term, Federal Government withheld allocations to Lagos State for years. Tinubu made it possible for people to know that you can run a state with internally generated revenue ONLY. F,uck FG allocation. Hence Fashola coming on board already understands the workability of internally generated revenue in Lagos.

@akered,
good video links.i've actually see the poppoff guy's own b4. Interesting.

I am beginning to think this is all not happening.Can all these mischief be real? I try very hard not to give up hope on Nigeria but you see, I am really heart broken. NTA website did not carry this all important make-or-break-news. And i'm sure there is somebody collecting salary for the update of information on that website. What a shame.

edoyad:
@deliver us and kristonium, it is thinking like yours that ends a person in a plane in detroit with TNT attached to his scrotum.
No be only conflagaration , na configuration. If no be fruit of spirit to loot then why were elder Akingbola and Cecilia doing it and getting applauds from their churches. Atleast Mutallab no thief person money to buy bomb.

And the so called perfect,omniscient Holy Spirit did not for once reveal to their church's "CEO" that it is not clean money.

What a shame. The story is truly absent on NTA's website .

If na naija,dem go just talk say na rich man pikin wey dey play with knock out to celebrate xmass.

How will this drama end?

It needn't be a bomb. The motives are the same.

lawrence83:
dont compare the strenght of those guys in the days of old to now,
Guys that cud walk from Egypt to israel on bare foot and live over 300 years , am sure servicing pu-nani wont even be a problem.

You will hear that govt has sent troupes there to restore law and order and that will be it. I mean the govt need to make a decisive move to "kill" every group of people ^{or aliens for that matter} whose activities pose a danger to fellow Nigerians.

@viaro,
You usually quote a little statement out of a whole write up, you dwell on that and try to give it a meaning that doesn't convey the idea of the whole write up.
There are both theist and atheist scientists, bla bla bla. When people blow themselves up on airplanes do they do it on scientific or on religious grounds Do you hear any scientific group claiming responsibility for suicide attacks.

I stand by my word on the HS issue. _{If you didn't understand my initial post it's up to you.}

Someone says the biblical Samson was also a terrorrist
He gave some reasons as well here

Religious stories are very powerful.
People believe stories that they would have rejected if it were presented to them from a non religious perspective.

Really, there is nothing wrong with you believing anything. It's your choice. But there is something wrong in not understanding that a believe is just a believe and it is different from a fact.There is something wrong in you telling me I am doomed for not believing the same things you believe even when you can not demonstrate those things to be facts.

Suicide killing it is. By today's standard, Samson was a terrorist.He was said to have killed about 3,000 "enemies" at once. Is that not the aim of today's suicide bombings?Your side looses just one person _{i.e you} but the enemies side looses many people.

Such i,dio,ts abound in northern naija because the government has never in the history of nigera taken any decisive measure to put a stop to their act.

Heyyyy.I did not say tripple sin. I said T.H,R.E.E,,S.OME i.e screwing 2 women at a time.

They said Solo's wives and concubines totaled about 1,000.I seriously doubt that statement because it sounds like myth or exaggeration to me _{(about 3 years to go round if he screwed one woman per day. I also want to believe he didn't practice party)}. That makes me to also seriously doubt the extent of his so called wealth.

But Bill Gates? The figures we are given are real and verifiable.

Therefore, I conclude that while the mythical solo may be richer than Bill, the real Solo is very likely not as rich as the real Bill.

@abuzola,
What do you have to say about the Nigerian muslim dude that had that failed bombing attempt in U.S. ?

i don't see any scientist detonating a bomb on himself just to drive home his point.
Religion has more tendency for extremism than science.