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akintom:
Hmmmmm..... If you wake up one morning, you stepped out of your room, and you found yourself at the gate of Whitehouse in W/DC. Haven slept off in your room here in Nigeria, the night before.

1. Your question will be WHO made this happened? Or

2. HOW did this happen?

brilliant analogy....


But let me compile it...assuming, I was arrested by the security and charge to court for entering the white house without an authourization...

What question do you the think the security that got me arrested or the prosecutor who is handling my case will ask first?. Who are you or how do you get your self here? Be realistic....

Am sure your best answer will be the former...who are you may save you from how do you get here... Your identity matter... An undercover security that find himself in the white house can easily bypass the question how do you get here....
Hope am cleared..

akintom:
Likewise, your parents required their parents to have existed. Your parents aren't your EXTERNAL cause, they're your REPRODUCTIVE cause.

External cause, is a mythological gist of cosmology of different cultures of the world. The traditional religion of Jews (Judeo-Christianity) inclusive.

External cause assumption, is a faulty premise, that emanated from asking the "who", instead of "how" life began.

both my parent and me happens to be contingent. Which is the basic of this argument... My parent existence isn't neccasry and likewise me...both of us happen to exist just by chance.


My parent are external yes if they are not there, i will not be here...


They are my reproductive cause...yes..through them i was born...

This argument isn't judeo- christain..... It is invented by a Muslim philosopher.... name Avicenna....


In fact he is not arguing from cosmological veiw.....read my op....to get the contrast


Who before how should start the premises and not how before who....that is more logical...

You have to know it before you can proof it..
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supersystemsnig:
Haba bro, i'm excited oh...

Try to comment on the video discussion here...

supersystemsnig:
Guys, ladies, lets talk about depression and anger, anyone experienced deep hurt? How did you move past it ?

let me send you some video .....they are controversial.... You will find in interesting and challenging at the same time...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFxzLIt5PYM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULT3cP88Kk



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xULT3cP88Kk


You will love the heated discussion.

supersystemsnig:
Hahahaha, thanks i can relate with some of the points clearly...You made me laugh this morning

go ahead bro

supersystemsnig:
Lets start from the beginning, scientific evidence proved that millions of years back, shortly before/after the world was formed, what was prevalent was just two key elements, Hydrogen 92%, and Helium 8%...But Why these two? By understanding the products of the reaction,we can illustrate the events that took place...and why i say it all began with Hydrogen, as simplistic as it may seem...but there are characteristics of this element that shares oneness with a being, which is the number 1, the number of proton, neutron,electron, the " ONE " in Hydrogen should be examined closely and from here we can continue our probe, i'll like to continue, but want us to stay on this for a while before we continue...







Now, we have been told every form of life began with a few numbers, and then by automation multiplication of life forms continued, thisimplies that everything hada simplistic beginning, and this further explains whatever took place at the beginning must start from the simplest of form, i.e. Hydrogen in the case ofan element, meaning the process took cognisance of simplistic processes to set a cause of action into effect. Suffice to say, using an Uranium of elements with many number of electrons wouldn't work, because by virute of these processes everything needed to have a simple beginning and then expand ( Fission ) to become much larger things. I.e. everything begins with a seed, thus the characteristic of the ( if you'll agree, creator was what by far took effect here, in which i'll call, alpha, the first, also Hydrogen ).

Now i started with hydrogen because it is extremely chemically stable, in chemistry, we'll understand that because of the relative stability of the nuclei of this elemnt, it would require extreme force to set the nuclei apart and once this is achived, it creates a series of spntaneous and continous chain reactions that sets off other prducts that continue to react with themselves and this continous and massive reactions was the beginning of all things...


But why Hydrogen? Hydrogen is so chemically stable as my fellow scientists will agree that breaking it, oh infusing its subcomponents to become one, requires what in science is called the energy of the sun...


It is too difficult to do that over 60 years of scientific research has not been able to fuse.. Look to the stars, planetary bodies,ne planetary formation, this same reactions is producing new plants, galaxies, and guess what the dominant element that has been observed in them is? Hydrogen....So, on paper research scitentist will tell you just like i am how by reacting, either breaking or combining its sub atomic parties can create atleast 80% of the elements in the world today, look for a radioactive delay illustration of Hydrogen for reference

let's agentofAllah take it from here... I am not a scientist... I am still a student of the discipline....doing self research....

ButterflylIon you are also invited...

Am active, when it comes to logic or historical reasoning....

supersystemsnig:
I don't know jare. I really don't know...I earned a tag, isn't that why a dude is coming for me, when one is trying to forget a -ve experience...


Anyways, let's talk about Depression and Anger within the context of relationships...How to fix this " eater " up...


Kindly share insights

haa.....No relationshilp is as smooth as we want....all what we need to do is to consolidate each other by appreciating our subjective views...

Being in a relationship with someone going through a depressed or anger state can be very intense and challenging.

For us to appereciate each orther, we need to understand how depression works and which type of depression your partner has.

People with depression have a tendency to over react and feel overwhelmed by them.

Do your best not to do anything which can hurt them,......they will not blame you but themselves and fall deeper in the pit of depression.

The person going through depression and anger sometimes feel isolating themselves at times.

live the person to be with his or her thoughts and after some time, you can ask them about what he was pondering over. Don’t force it if they don’t tell you.


The Royal key


cherished a depress fellow and never let herbor him forget how much you admire him and likewise ensure the depression does not change the love for her



i am not married yet....that journey is still far for me....though i do watch some interesting marriage and relationship counseling videos.... I will try and post you some of them...

Buo d

supersystemsnig:
Well, we can take things step by step back from the origin of life, or who knows suggest...I'm heart is a bit foggy

you aren't confused bro. May be you do not how to reply your curious heart.

Who knows, we may have solutions to your curious heart...

We can have a discussion...

Or is it private?

supersystemsnig:
Thanks

I was less than civil to you guys...My sincere apologies on y'all..I blame it on adrenaline...I hope to stick around and be of more civil attitude...

brother, you need to reduce your stress level...is there anything we can share?

THT80:
You should appreciate it. Going by my estimation of your level of intelligence, the gap between yours and mine is wide enough for you to adore me and show gratitude anytime I give you attention.

And please re-read the post you just quoted. I elaborated further for the sake of emphasis.

am sure , you regret creating this thread, your so called intelligence was put to shame....

If believers are like you, no single atheist will convert..


Your intelligence is terrible... I will advice you to go for DNA-G2 test....


It may resharpened the better side of you , if there is any,,,

budaatum:
The rain.
Two days ago, I got an engineer in to fit the brand new made in North Korea Kim Jong-un air conditioning unit that I had bought. Its not like those made in China rubbish. This one is voice controlled, has no visible internal unit, cools the room and makes no noise - or so they told me where I bought it, though now I know, that noise we heard that made me believe it was raining outside was my brand new Kim Jong-un air condition unit powering up when the electricity came back on. I am sorry I forgot to tell you it got installed.

We went out a couple of hours later and everywhere was dry, except the patio. On looking up, water was dripping from the clothes the Neighbour's house girl, Kudiratu Alinorain, had hung out to dry on the rails of the balcony upstairs. The water I felt was falling from the clothes, splashing on the ledge and falling on my head like it was rain. As soon as my senses perceived the water, I believed it was raining due to experience and did not bother to investigate any further. Besides, I was angry at you for not believing me when I told you I believed it was raining! But its not my fault I was clueless now! Did I not hear water falling from above, and perceive water falling from above and decide from experience that water falling from above was rain? How could I have known the neighbour's house girl, Kudiratu Alinorain was hanging clothes out to dry? I did ask you to go and check for yourself!

My point is, my senses might not be as good as I think they are, and a second opinion might help. At the very least, I would not make that mistake again, and that's how we learn.

Please read up on water at wiki. You'd find information on water goes quite a lot further than "one oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms".

pls
The same wikipedia says water chemical formula is H2O, so where those it go further? Do you even read the links you quoted...water molecule consist of oxgens atom and two hydrogen atoms...nothing more..provide any proof....am willing to accept yours if you are debating mine for the sake of argument... what molecule does water contain again?




With the analogy again, you are wrong... Sensitivity, experience and perciveness can't all be clueless...why? All this element are derive from our brain consciousness....



If all this three elements is wrong in a person ,then the individual needs a proper psychological check up.....a balance mind with the above elemnt can't get it all wrong....it is impossible..


For example, lets you believe that light is made up of living organisms but this doesn't change the truth that it is not made up of any living thing (Still, who knows if someone proves that also someday, but for the time being it is, to put it in the simplest way possible, a combination of wave and particle nature, the quantum particle being Photon). It is living thng becaus that is how it can be sense or perceived

Check this diagram to get the understanding. Of belive system and scientific system.........






If you don't get the diagram analogy, let me know...

supersystemsnig:
We are brothers and comrades, no enemity,,, i like the interactions we shared, and we should do this once in a while..we both should do this..I appreciate everytime we both put into this...You mde my day brov..gotta sleep..chao

you just did what i ask you to do...


Good of you..

AgentOfAllah:


Oga butterfly, aka ngor1, aka ngor2, I know say you don save me for mind since d day wey I gang with the others to expose your wayowayo likes and shares for Nairaland.
But anyway, your points are well received!

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Firstly, thanks for reminding me that knowledge is not my exclusive preserve! I couldn't agree more with you on that point. As a matter of fact, I have only become acutely aware of my colossal ignorance with time.
To keep your restless mind at rest sir, I apologise to you if I've ever conveyed the impression that knowledge is my personal property. That has never been my intention. If anything, I should like that everybody knows more than me so that I never run out of things to learn. I also apologise for all the alleged "talkdowns" and "insults" you claim I have meted on you. I try to be courteous in my conversations, as a matter of course, but I'm not infallible, so I may occasionally depart from this course. I regret all of that, if you've been at the receiving end of my moments of madness. However, the one thing I do not regret is exposing your b4 wayowayo arse. That has hopefully made you a better person.

Love you bro!

This is a moment for reconciliation

ScienceWatch:
Oh, apologies Sir. You can replace choose any meat you prefer. Courier me a piece for an experts opinion.

No problem bro..I love it when chicken is bake ....how I wish I can send you one....I may go for one tommorrw ...

ScienceWatch:
Hi Vaxx, As agreed here is your Genius Baked Pork Chops recipe. Remember to courier one chop so I can check if you got it right !

Genius Baked Pork Chops:

Ingredients:

• Pork chops (as many as needed)
• flour
• Dijon mustard
• 1 bell pepper
• 1 medium onion

Preparation steps:
Coat pork chops with mustard. Lightly dredge in flour and then brown quickly in skillet.
Place in baking dish. Add salt and pepper to taste.
Add thinly sliced pepper and onion over each chop.
Cover with foil and bake at 325º for 35 to 40 minutes, until chops are cooked.

I have not taste pork meat before...

supersystemsnig:
Lol..you're cracking me up brov, tell the person yourself nah..

I just did it...but he reject it..

supersystemsnig:
All things embrace the will of it's owner my brother

can you tell your scientist friend sorry... Do it for me bro

supersystemsnig:
All things embrace the will of it's owner my brother

can you tell your scientist friend sorry... Do it for me

supersystemsnig:
If something must exist then it must come from something, hence nothing doesn't exist...cause even in dark holes, vibration of particles exist...In fact, vibration of energy exists throughout the universe, hence matter and energy is in continuous flow...So why, nothing?Nothing is something... and something comes from something and not nothing..

which we means from a process to process...

I also like this principle... It did not escape God....

supersystemsnig:
If something must exist then it must come from something, hence nothing doesn't exist...cause even in dark holes, vibration of particles exist...In fact, vibration of energy exists throughout the universe, hence matter and energy is in continuous flow...So why, nothing?Nothing is something... and something comes from something and not nothing..

which we means from a process to process...

I also like this principle... It did not excape God....

KingEbukasBlog:
Nothing philosophically means non existence physically and metaphysically . It is impossible for something to come from nothing (nihilo ex nihil fit ) since nothing is casually impotent - it can't cause anything . That means for something to begin to exist , it must have a cause and what that begins to exist is contingent .

But there is a problem , infinite regress of causes . We have to understand that contingent things rely on other things for their existence and it is possible for them not to exist , therefore it is impossible to have a chain of contingent things - if this is so , then nothing would exist ; but we have something . Therefore , the corollary is to affirm the existence of non-contingent causally potent thing . This non-contingent casually potent thing is the First Cause or God .

we are both in agreement..

AgentOfAllah:
It stopped being a discussion when you evaded my questions with unintelligible obfuscations, and you made it a quarrel the moment you unjustifiably resorted to ad hominems.


Read your shitty comment which I quoted again.


Who gives a fvck about your cussing? You were simply rude in attacking my knowledge and calling my explanation crap without justification. And to make matters worse, you then quote a link which explained exactly what I explained, meaning you weren't even sure about the substance of your own position.
If you haven't picked up a textbook in 17 years, then pick one up and be sure of your facts before you start making nonsensical claims!


No, you really shouldn't have talked about subjects you knew nothing about in the first place. Quantum physicist emeritus my arse!

can I say sorry on his behalf...you have both contributed positively to this thread.......if you permit me ....sorry bro

budaatum:
That's not so. Einstein needn't have bothered. Newton worked pretty well. But he did, so Relativity appeared.

Arrogance is the only reason we would think we know it all. There's always so much more we don't know yet. Laziness, is an insufficient reason to stop.


Claiming I believe something hardly shows I have exhausted the topic. Let me illustrate.

If I sat in the living room and said, "I believe it is raining outside". You could ask, " are you sure?" And if I'm not, I can get off the chair and look out the window to check.

Say, the window has frosted glass so I can't see out well, I may return and say, "I think so" , to which you may ask, " Are you sure".

So I get up again, go out the door and rain pours on my head. I would return and say, "It is raining outside, damn it! It effing pissed down on my head, and if you don't bloody believe me, go out and check!"

I am afraid the believer is just making things up. The believer doesn't really have a clue.

Is it not raining outside?

this isnt true,scientific verifiable truth do not need further truth again....not laziness... It is no more truth again... Take for example water molecules consist of oxygen atom and 2 hydrogen atoms...which further prove do scientist need again


If the explanation is well satisfy, no need for further explanations...


Beliefs have underlining connotations with knowledge, faith, trust and confidence..

And I explained to you this knowledge is derived from sensitivity, experience and perciveness.. Can all this be clueless? Scratch it...

With your analogy...for me to say i belive is rainy outside, i must have sense it, percived it and experience how it is...if not it is not a belive it is assumption...


I belive it is rainy outside becuse i sense the room temperature is much lower, I perceive the weather conditions is cold because whenever it wanted to rain ,the room enviroment is always cold....

ScienceWatch:
Aaaah ! Thanks for the inspiration Sir. There is only one thing a Pseudo genius desire, that is to have his favorite recipe published on front page.

Would you mind if I post my incredible recipe here it is called - Genius Baked Pork Chops

I will not mind bro. .

Sciencewatch really change this thread. Positively.... This thread deserve front page

supersystemsnig:
I have been mistakening fusion with fission, Just combining two sub atomic hydrogen particles , men, i wished a chemist was here, anyway see this :



Fusion, many believe, could be the answer. It works by forcing together two types, or isotopes, of hydrogen at such a high temperature that the positively charged atoms are able to overcome their mutual repulsion and fuse. The result of this fusion is an atom of helium plus a highly energetic neutron particle. Physicists aim to capture the energy released by these emitted neutrons, and use it to drive steam turbines and produce electricity.



Now read here :


http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120810-the-quest-to-recreate-the-sun


IT IS CALLED SUN ON EARTH, AND ITS NOT JOKE ITS CALLED THE NAME...WITH OVER 10 YEARS OF RESEARCH, WE'RE JUST GETTING CLOSE TO ACHIEVING IT...SECRET SOURCES TELLS ME WE ARE CLOSE, BUT HOW CLOSE WE ARE I CAN'T SAY...MEN IF YOU KNOW WHAT NUCLEAR FUSION IS, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND HOW IT'S THE BEGINNING OF EVERYTHING...


I REST MY PEN HERE THIS WEBSITE EXPLAINS EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN CRYING ABOUT ON THIS THREAD

good job

When two scientists meet, it is always interesting to look.....as a free thinker
Am now an observer on my own thread....

AgentOfAllah:
How're you doing?

am good bro... Let me come and learn some science here...

budaatum:
Why?

because he can not either come to be nor cease to be...

AgentOfAllah:
Okay. But before we misplace ourselves in the vastness of the universe, let's come back down to earth.

Presently, [url=http://web.net/~cnanw/a3.htm]there are ~17,500 nuclear bombs in the world[/url]. Let's assume the worst case scenario, which is that all these bombs are hydrogen bombs.

Now, the total energy given off by a powerful hydrogen bomb is ~50 PJ, that is ~ 50 X 10¹⁵ Joules.

If all these bombs were to be donated in the same location at exactly the same time, the total energy that would be given off is ~ 8.8 X 10²⁰ Joules.

The lower limit of energy required to rip the earth apart is ~ 1.25 X 10³² Joules

As you see, all the nuclear bombs combined may cause Earthquakes, induce a few volcanoes, perhaps. Sure, they may probably even wipe out all terrestrial life, but they will not as much as shake the world. They will probably not even come close to wiping out all life on earth.

Clearly, the worst possible nuclear catastrophe cannot bring the earth to an end, let alone the universe. To even come close to completely destroying the earth, we'll need about a trillion of those H bombs, and I'm fairly certain we can't achieve that feat! And the earth is not even qualified to be called a dot on the universal landscape, so you may drop that talk about nuclear catastrophe.

longest time bro...

boringnigerian:
Well, I suppose. I guess someone's point here is that we cannot arbitrarily pick a point in the chain to terminate it and say that's where the chain started from simply because we can't see beyond that point.

is there any guaranty the Chain exceed beyond the point? Am willing to learn...


It is better we work with empirical evidence...

NairalandSARS:
My grandparents were NECESSARY for my existence, but they died, didn't they?

your grandparents is a contingent, your grandparent require their parent to exist...and likewise their parent require another parent to exist...they are contigent.