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ScienceWatch:
butterflyl1on, You make amazing positive contributions here in the GENIUS SECTION.

Genius is in the giving !

Let me give this genius life lesson here ;

Part 1 of 5

This contents is not for the faint of heart and contains some shocking revelations, the lessons therein are fundamental to genius and important for every wise person. Remember, there is no neutral kingdom and life is too short to waste time on perishable things that have no lasting value and significance. Let this mans experience serve as an incentive for you to love God above all other considerations and dedicate your heart completely to Him!

IT sounds like a fairy-tale. Most would pass it for a creative, fictitious and surreal account of supernatural experiences, not to be taken literally. But this is a true confession. It’s the account of a man who lived for over 20 years in a world of darkness and devilry. A man who knew the tricks and traits of the satanic kingdom like the back of his hand and is now ready to expose their dark secrets after receiving his freedom.

Before you read, brace yourself. The contents are shocking but the lessons fundamental. The spiritual world is real. We are in a real battle between good and evil.
In this exclusive interview an ex-wizard exposes his former kingdom.

Here is some background info ;

“My name is Adebisi Jude Solomon. I am from Kogi State of Nigeria and I’m 43. I was born into a family of seven. We are only three left – I don’t know the whereabouts of the other two. My father was a pagan and one of the community leaders. He didn’t believe in going to either church or mosque. He was among those who wanted to live their own life in the sentiment of their own understanding.
“As for me, I didn’t care for any religion. I just lived my life the way I liked it. I had authority of my own self – no one told me I should do this or that. The sentiment from my own childhood was that I believed in self-government, self-principle of living. I just wanted to live my life; nobody should displease me and I won’t displease anybody.

Part 2 0f 5 to follow

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Roy52793

I am reading your post.........despite harsh ..it is also full of wisdom.....i really love it the way you turn it to something productive....

forgive the guy pls...am sure he must have reject creating a thread for you....

Just to correct some misconception up there..

the term Abrahamic religions (except Islam, Eastern Christianity and Judaism) are often used in lieu of using the East and West terminology.

Western culture itself was significantly influenced by the emergence of Christianity and its adoption as the state church of the Roman Empire in the late 4th century and the term "Christendom" largely indicates this intertwined history. Western Christianity was significantly influenced by Hellenistic religion (notably Platonism and Gnosticism) as well as the Roman imperial cult. Western Christianity is based on Roman Catholicism (Latin Rite), as opposed to Eastern Orthodoxy, from which it was divided by the Great Schism of the 11th century, and further includes all Protestant traditions splitting off Roman Catholicism from the 16th century.


Not untll 19century that the west adopt all form of neopaganism....


Abrahmic religion has been with the west since the past 4th cantury...so it has become their identity.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_religions

Ioseph:
Whew, we've got quite the inquisitive one here folks.
https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/630px-paris_tuileries_garden_facepalm_statue.jpg

This is a question for Christians, Muslims, Jews, Deists and others of monotheistic faith. If you are seeking to derail the topic, please leave the thread, otherwise you will be reported.

I take your challenge as a traditionalist.... But first....which part of natural philosophy do you want us to begin with...


Cosmology ,ontology, metaphysical or epistemology.... Pick anyone....you can as well choose all...



Before you go ahead...remember science has a limitation

adepeter2027:
Discussion on prayer.
What/who/where is god.
Who is the holy spirit.
Freewill
Biblical contradictions.
God of the past, present & future.
The Noah's ark.
Why is Satan still alive?
Is Satan a bad guy?

I am not a Christian nor Muslim... So most of the question isn't meant for me....but on the first and second and fourth question has been answer many times by me on nairaland...you can create a topic and give me a mention.. I will repeat the answer again....


The 6 question is new...so we can have a fresh debate on it...

TundeHashim:
I'm a Muslim but I must admit that atheism is on the rise. It's the f*cking reality. Day in day out, I read comments of people attacking the very foundation upon which religion stands. Interestingly, the questions they raise are logical and their arguments apt. It's shame on theists if we can't come up with a more rational argument and resort to insulting them and threatening them with hell. Though I've got a rebuttal to some of their arguments but honestly, it has made me more liberal than before. Also, I've become more resilient in my faith in God.

pls can you point out some of their questions that you think theists can't answer rationally.

You must understand one thing....for any being to accept rational answer, he or she must possess a rational mind...if not 2 will not be able to divide 4......

Ioseph:
This post was about Mohammad, not allah. Mohammad is very real, and so are my allegations of him being a murderous violent pedophile. I am challenging traditional interpretations of a man seldom ever criticised throughout the Muslim world for fear of execution by religious police or angry Muslim mobs. Stop trying to warp this subject into something it's not.



Nigeria is democratic? LOL. Nigeria is a cesspool of corruption and tribalism. Muslim herdsmen attack Christian villages, Christians lynch Muslims. Boko Haram is one of the world's major Jihadist groups and is thriving in the North. Hausa vote for one party, Igbo vote for the other, Yoruba are caught in between, the people vote for people with money or prestige over people with intelligent economic plans or motives for the country's future, and the top brass of the government are money-laundering pig scum who suck the wealth out of their nation for a big house and a private jet, enriching their worthless lives and perpetuating the destruction of the future of their country. Calling the shithole that is Nigeria a "democracy" gives democracy a bad name.



Wrong. 12 of Nigeria's 36 states employ Shariah law, where Blasphemy of Islam is punishable by death.



If 'promoting hatred among the believer' means exposing Christianity and Islam as the nonsense that they are, then I shall proudly do so.



Is this a threat? Are you saying I'd be assaulted if I insulted Mohammad and Islam in public? Didn't you just call Nigeria a "democratic country" where "freedom of worship and thought is allowed"? This is exactly why we need to debate the delusion that is Islamic faith. If offline you are beaten by thugs and online you are banned from criticising the religion, then there is no freedom of thought NOR democracy at play.

Islam is a lie. Christianity is a lie. Jesus is dead, Mohammad was a bloodthirsty warlord



Why is it 'devilish', exactly? You have provided no reasons whatsoever for your case.




True, but not as symbols 'the perfect human', prophets of gods or icons of religious worship. They will be remembered as historical figures within the secular framework of modern peer-reviewed historical study, as they should be. Jesus as a revolutionary Roman Jew and Mohammad as a bloodthirsty warmongering Arab.




False. Newton and Einstein's contributions to classical and modern physics respectively are a big part of the reasons behind why we have cars, roads, rockets, engines, airplanes, dams, power grids, satellites, x-rays, solar power, factories, plastics, weather reports, nuclear power plants, an understanding of the fundamental building blocks of the universe, the history of the universe, etc.

They contributed far more to modern technology, science and understanding of the universe than Jesus or Mohammad ever did.



That's exactly what makes them imaginary.




Why do you respect their belief system? Their belief system is based on myths, lies and draconic societal values from Bronze Age tribal societies. Instead of giving 'respect' where none is due, I think it is a far better idea to speak of Christianity and Islam as the nonsenses that they are, and move society away from the theocratic.

I've been reading your posts, and it seems like you don't actually have any argument for or against the existence of a god or the validity of a religion, so much as you just want to make other people shut up about it. Well I'm sorry to say, kiddo, but you missed the philistine bus 400 years ago.

let me also reply with a long epistle....but permit me to do it in numerical format...


1...my first paragraph point out the comment I have seen you spreading on nairaland ....not just this one alone...


2...In case you want to argue about the freedom of speech....attack this nigeria constitution first...Section 38 (1) of the 1999 constitution and Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Right, provide:“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or in private...



3...since you do not see what you are doing as a means of promoting hatred... No need to encourage you anymore... You are doing what your brain dictate for you...I am not a phycologist so it is not my job..

4 It is devilish because you are promoting hatred...as I said I can't encourage you to stop...you are only following what your brain dictate for you. So untill you are fully balance to differentiate wrong from right....we can then have a discussion...

6...if you want to really emphasis your freedom of speech...stage a protest or book a minute with any radio station...we will then know if it is a threat or not...nairaland hide you as a person..


5..many books have record many achievement of this great men( Jesus and Muhammed).....their religious book is an example... Well study and learn more than any science book on earth....

For their sake over a billion people today are either Christian or Muslim

For their sake over billions people today are educated...both western education and qur'anic knowledge.... Somehow it has reduce illiteracy ....


For their sake over billion people today are employed...either in the church, schools or finances..... Islamic bank is an example....


And so many more....


Even newton and Albert will forever remain grateful to religion.... Albert become a scientists to learn about God creation.

... Muhammed nor Jesus are not scientists... What they do to human mind superced what science had done and will still do......they influence the thinking of billions human worldwide... They can be consider philosopher at best.or literally soul doctor...their teaching is the minds of billions... People meditate on them more than any scientific discovery....


6...your last two paragraph is divided into two..

1 you thought every believer are blind in faith.... So your thought is the most rational..

2 you belive I should also play one sided role ....either an atheist or Christain or Muslim....but my understanding welcome multi diversity...


Ability not to reason like everybody is what make me special....

What a serious division from the op....is like saying no true PDP will marry ACN ...why?
Is that Jesus teaching?

I think with your logic dangote should sack all the Christian working with him

Adenuga should sack all the Muslim working with him...


What a division statement once again...

A clear working mind should follow this principle...

God before humanity..

Humanity before religion

If you misinterprete this statement.... And you place religion before humanity.... Your case will be like Syria or northern Nigeria.

JackBizzle:
Yes, African traditional culture and religion are important but we shouldnt overestimate it. There is a limit to culture.

I agree with you

rekinomtla:
The hatred of God is present on this thread.

as you can see

Ioseph:
Mohammad is a disgusting violent wretched warlord thug who sexually assaulted a 9 year old girl and created a personality cult around himself and a non-existent "allah" that he used to justify his lust, greed and cruelty. There is nothing more abhorrent than the fact that billions of Muslims around the world look up to this DISGUSTING SAVAGE as a symbol of the 'perfect person'. He is the opposite! He is a disgusting, cowardly, bloodthirsty, conniving swine! He is a woman hater and an autark, a hedonistic, swollen sack of shit! He is a violent, malicious, racist warmonger and is the archetype of the enemy of the modern world!

F*ck Mohammad! There is no god but allah, no god at all! If Mohammad was alive today he'd be dragged in front of Geneva in chains for international war crimes!!

i have read many of your posts...it seems you are fighting the being you consider imaginary...

Well, they are way to address the system without attacking the faith, if you find it barbaric.... Remember Nigeria is a Democratic state where freedom of worship and thought is allowed.. Do not use the freedom of speech to promote hatred among the believer.....you are behind the screen, so nobody know you.....but that those not give you liberty to attack anybody belive system....it is called devilish....


The Muhammad you attack is a man of historical record that will still linger in the minds of billions after your death

The Jesus you attack is a man of historical record that will still linger in the minds of billion after your death....


this two men historical record are far gretter than isaac newton or albert elnestein of science you value......


The being you consider imaginary(God, yahweh, allah) live in the mind of billions and they hold him in high esteem


Before you attack me ......I am not a Muslim nor Christian..... But I respect their belive system....I only condemn them when they attack my belive without respecting it.....

chrisbaxtian:
there's was a certain level of demonization of African traditional beliefs when foreign religions became established here! Yes, there's a flavour of traditional beliefs, but it does not go further than that. The real thing has been relegated in favour of modernisation that came with foreign religions

which causes major set back in Africa..if Africa will developed then our culture will play a bigger role...take japan and china as a case study....

chrisbaxtian:
indigenous African belief systems are limited! that's why they could easily be uprooted by invaders who offered alternatives that appeared to be superior

let me tell you the truth...as far as African tradition is concern., we can never depart from our belive system.... The Christian Yoruba adopt Yoruba tradition and Christianity together ...Churches like celestial or cherubim and Zion are all following Yoruba spiritual system in adittion with their Christ teaching...likewise Muslim.....tijaniya and the rest all have a flavour of African spiritual system in them...

JackBizzle:
Religion, believe it or not, is one of Africa's biggest problems next to corruption and poverty. While there are many religions outside the Abrahamic faiths, the Abrahamic faiths are the most widespread and most disastrous to the African mind.

Here are reasons why Africans should never follow these religions


1) All the prophets of Islam, Christianity and Judaism are not from Africa but the Middle East;
Why would you follow a religion that tells you that God ignored Africa and chose his prophets from the middle east? Is God now afraid of African prophets or are we inferior.


2) These religions accepted the slavery of Africans
Islam and Christianity arrived in Africa through slavery. The Arabs came to the Kanem Bornu empire (which is partly in Nigeria) to take slaves. The Europeans/Americans got slaves from West Africa. Judaism supports slavery in certain forms. A slave that accepts the slavemaster's religion is a slave forever.


3)These religions destroy African culture
Are Hijab and Niquaab the cultural dresses of Yoruba or Hausa women? Why do we give our children Jewish and Arab names instead of Nigerian names?
Idris Abdulkareem
Victor Moses
John Mikel
Abdulsam Abubakar
^^
Are these African names? Yet, our best and brightest in Nigeria bear these names!


4) Abrahamic religions keep Africa backwards
Against abortion, against evolution, against contraceptives, against gay rights, against freedom of speech (balsphemy laws), against feminism etc


5) Abrahamic religions enrich foreign countries
-Pilgrimage to mecca and jerusalem
-catholic churches in Africa sending money to Rome
-Buying bibles and books printed overseas with overseas authors and printers
-Pastors buying private jets which are serviced and maintained in dollars




AFRICANS, BE WISE.

I support you a hundred percent....but Africa should also not follow atheism concept.... Every indigenous Africa belive in the most supreme

Ericsunday619:
close your big mouth. Am agnostic toward religion and God

why the insult

Ericsunday619:
nothing really

ok good then study this.....it will be good for you...

umarshek6:
wat is so special about yoruba dat makes think It will come in yoruba
Mind u bible was fisrt documented in Hebrew so u dnt have a point and nobody said Islam is by force

nothing is so special about Yoruba to Arab.. Just like nothing is so special about Arab to yoruba..

It happen in yoruba land therefore it should be in Yoruba grammer...


You don't know what you are saying about your last statement. .I am not talking about bible...I am talking about the meaning of Akbar in Hebrew.. It mean mice....

Islam shouldn't be force just like Christianity.... Both of them are foreign religion..... They should understand....

Believing in judgemental God and non existing devil steal your future.....

umarshek6:
because if it's in yoruba it might mean d opposite in ebira and so on

but it happen in Ibadan not in ebira land....whatever the opposite, the Yoruba indigine will translate it...Akbar in Hebrew mean mice ...do you know that?.. So when you say allah akbar to an hebrew man...you are telling him allah is mice...that inscription is useless to me just like the image of the tree i show above..

tola9ja:
I saw this with my EYES in IBADAN less than 15minutes AGO...

THE NAME OF ALLAAH, ALLAAH ON A MORINGA TREE..

All praise is to ALLAAH.

why is it written in Arabic , why not in Yoruba? How many Nigeria Muslim even understand Arabic.... So because a tree has an inscription of a name Allah, it has authenticate Islam? Right... What about this tree... Is it for the devil...?

olasaad:
14. The average amount of time a woman can keep a secret is 47 hours and 15 minutes.

Pls stop this is not true.

it so true...there was an unusual information I heard about a lady,so I decide to ask her friend if it is true....the girl refuse and tell me she don't do gossip...only to tell me later after she and the girl in question had a little quarrel....if it should be a guy , he will still keep to the secret, no matter the problem... So true women can't keep secret

donnffd:
Logical and scientific evidence?

Really?

Just because you mentioned DNA in a few sentences doesnt make it scientific!

I just tell you the evidence is measurable.... And that make it empirical....

According to wiki...it defined empirical as thus. Empirical evidence, also known as sensory experience, is the knowledge received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience, ἐμπειρία (empeiría).



The evidence is logical as well...it give reasons enough beyond doubt....



You may continue doubting....it isn't necessary but it is important

donnffd:
Went through the post and there is no evidence whatsoever there, just an essay of claims like indian myth is a lie but yoruba myth is the real one(the exact same thing everyone says about their own myths), some mumbo-jumbo about DNA being a keyhole and other pseudoscience stuff.

No real explanation, no experiments, no prediction and most importantly No Evidence, So i am sorry but thats not enough to consider that an objective truth.

you can continue doubting.... The truth of the message has been deliver with logical and scientific evidence.... What else do you want... The evidence is measurable and that is scientific enough... Or are you doubting science...

donnffd:
I think Death is the biggest threat to homo-sapiens, the undefeatable enemy, and because of that we most times delude ourselves of hopes of that victory that would never come, the conquering of death itself, and so we create myths and stories of the afterlife and reincarnation.

Reincarnation is a myth, there is no evidence for it, and if you claim you do, then present it, i am more than willing to hear and accept your evidence...

bros....are you a Yoruba by tribe? I doubt it....if you think reincarnation is a myth.....go through this link....https://www.nairaland.com/4068046/yoruba-version-life-after-death...


This topic has been well observed by highly educated mind....and they have no options to conclude that it is nothing but true....

Proudgorgeousga:
blah blah blah

I don't get that....or you do not consider my taught applicable...I believe we are learning here... If there is fallacy in that statement , you can bring it out....your wish is not to accept my point..but I pray you do so... That is my hope for you...

hopefulLandlord:
I repeat, prayer is different from wishes, I don't disagree there are instances where they both mean the same BUT in this situation "No atheists in foxholes" a wish is NOT the same as prayer; prayer to a judge is different from prayer in the context of this discussion

let me ask you a simple question, at the time I said "Please stop" to the vehicle barrelling down on my half paralysed body was I praying to a god? was I praying to a higher power?

it seems you're ignoring the context in order to make wish = prayer by any means

I don't know how else I can explain this

No where do I say wishes and prayer are the same....i only argue that the word is applicable on certain circumstances... Citing the court case as an example....


And most of this case are attributed to the time of stress and difficult situation...like that of foxholes... Where everybody hope to go home safely.....your wishes become prayer....becuse you are appealing to certain unknown force to make it possible...


In the case of the vehicle... You are only giving instruction.... So it those not fit the context of wish and prayer. You can wish not to be knockdown by the vehicle even when it Is glaring or the chances of it not happening is so slim....


how will I ignore the context....I am not debating to win you....am only stating how both can be applicable... If the purpose means the same.....atheist wishes in foxholes is the same thing with a believer.... Which both cut across desire....


I wish you are safe back home ...(appealing)...

I pray to be safe back home(appealing)..

Proudgorgeousga:
this is your opinion not fact. A prayer is an appeal to a higher authority or communicating with ones God to grant your desire


A wish is a desire , hope , or longing for something or for something to happen

while both prayer and wishes involve desire

What differenciates them is that prayer is an appeal to an authority while a wish does not appeal to authority.

any other thing you say is you arguing for arguments sake.

let me put it in example for you...Wish:- to buy a car for you

Hope:- expecting that you will like the car I brought...

Praying:- finally petted..

In this example , you can easily see the relationship between wish and prayer....


Both wish and prayer is a desire.....

In court of law , the normal word is prayer instead of wish....because they are appealing to the judge....which is the utimate decider... As you can see in my argument....in court of law nothing differentiate them........you wish the judge turn the case in your favour becuse of so and so .....you pray the case is won by you because of so and so

In the normal usage of the word.....what differentiate them will be base on the application of the grammer....example again...i wish i am sleeping by now.....i pray it should rain so that my wish to sleep can come true. ....in this example....you are appealing to a force that can make it rain to make it rain so your wish can come to pass...hope this clear the argument....

hopefulLandlord:
we don't need to split hairs here, we can't equate a wish and a prayer

everybody wishes from time to time, correct?

a prayer in this situation would be calling on a god, if you do not call on a god then you haven't prayed

we shouldn't ignore the context of the discussion here, atheists don't believe there's a god listening to them, they've been having wishes even when they were atheists; if you agree they've not been praying then, what suddenly makes their wishing when in danger now turn into prayer?

wishes =/= prayer

prayer = wishing to a god


let me just put it this way, all prayers are wishes but not all wishes are prayers

I just equate prayer and wishes using the court example....it is applicable on certain circumstances....



Yes a prayer involve calling on higher authority not necessary God...as we see in the case of court case...plantif and accuser both pray to the judge...judge isn't God..



Athiest do not belief in prayer....both at this point of danger ....it become very neccasery ....human desire/ prefer life to death.... A wish in this context become prayer....becuse of the purpose of the wishes which is also the same with prayer or a prayer become wish which is the same with wish ..they both request a saviour.....someone who is capable of helping them /saving them...


In the court of law....all wishes are prayer while all prayer are wishes....simple bro and likewise in any dangerous situation that involve life and death.....


The purpose both serve is desire....

hopefulLandlord:
Wish and prayer are different, you are using them interchangeably in this discussion to make a point whereas they should be treated differently

I was once partially temporarily paralysed in the middle of the road having been hit by a powerbike, I couldn't move my limbs and another car was barreling down on my body,I "wished" the car would stop, I mumbled "please stop" "please stop", what I mumbled is simply me wishing for the vehicle to stop, it was from me to the car, prayer in that situation would be "Please God, make this vehicle stop"; every human had wishes be you atheist, theist, deist, pantheist doesn't matter, we all have wishes and we all wish from time to time; I'm executing a business this week and I wish it would be successful, that doesn't mean I'm praying to a god, does it?

we shouldn't conflate wishes and prayers

Prayer is the main point here not wishes, everybody has wishes

I point it out to you that at point of danger the word wish/prayer both serve the same purpose ....which is desire..... At a point where there is little or no chance of the safety event to take place....


Here will take us back to application of word I debated with you last time.....

Under grammer.... They are both acceptable depending on the usage....

Take this example....


Have you ever been to court of law...the word prayer is an everyday usage instead of wish....the plantif pray , the accuser pray.... Both pray to the judge....since he is ultimate decider of their faith ..

segunojo866:
maybe i will be the first to win the gods

go ahead? At least you have started from nairaland ....

ScienceWatch:
Awesome segunojo866 ! I can clearly see that this is your honest feelings on these issues.
You are honestly writing about the massive doubts and never-ending confusion and fear dominating our lives globally.

I can only suggest you make a list of your points above according to importance to you, then work to clear your mind and settle your peace on each issue one by one. It may take you a year or more.
Because if you dont, you will rob yourself of the joy of living inside an evil world. Chose your battles wisely, dont fight the Gods, no one has ever won this battle.

I really love your last word.... No one has ever won the battle....

hopefulLandlord:
correct


this does not follow

you can't pull conclusions based on what happened/is happening to another group of people, its fallacious

that a few Christians would not say the shaadah and chose to he beheaded doesn't mean only a few atheists would not pray to a god when in danger; you're connecting two unrelated things



wishing and prayer are different from each other, a wish is a wish, it becomes a prayer when imaginary friends are added to the wish, I wish Nigeria were better than this, that doesn't mean I'm praying to a god that Nigeria should be better than this

so I do agree with you, in danger we all wish we could get out of it but praying to a god to help is not the same

Be u Christian, Muslim, pagan or atheists .we are all human being...what separate us is our belive so nothing is conflating here...


Nature will take its cause at is time on any human....be it fear and anxiety...human are emotional animal....it take total amount of belive to consider dogma above emotions.... It happens but only to the few...

Every emotional human wish/pray...

Wishing and prayer are similar tools... They both aim at desire.... When there is only little or no chance of that event to happen....in this contest prayer and wishes serve the same purpose....

hopefulLandlord:
you're conflating things here

if an atheist is about to be beheaded but told that he would be spared if he says the Shaadah, he'll most likely say it to get out of the predicament, even I would do the same BUT you need to see the difference, in this situation the atheist knows he'll be spared, all the power belongs to the executioner at that point so he's doing the executioner's bidding and not really calling on Allah

The executioner is real, his threat is real (impending beheading) and he's been given a way out, self preservation would make him do the executioner's bidding but we need to be clear on what he's confessing, while to the executioner he's confessing Allah to be the true god, to the atheist he doesn't mean one bit anything he's saying, if the executioner tells him to say "Jehovah is sheet" he'll definitely say it but he wouldn't make such a declaration if he weren't given the option in the first place

it ain't conflations bro...it is a simply analogy... Only few muslim who wish to wear the succide vex despite the heavenly reward...only few Christian who says the shaadah despite they know it is blasphemy against Christ....

Likewise atheist.. Only few atheist will not pray or wish for higher protection in the middle of danger.. Despite he knows it those not tally with his belive ...

The logic isn't about if the being you are rendering the prayer will accep it or not....it is just a wish ....what you wish it should happen.....it is human nature......brb.....