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hackney:
Please note that the border forces shoot the illegal migrants if they
can get away with it.
(One can see that the number of deaths in just that area is unusual)
Thats easier than transporting, holding ,feeding and then deporting them.


The victims are also mostly nigerians, onward with their infestations like rats.

You just made an investigative point here, Arab border forces could be very cruel. Actually, given that those victims died in one particular area, there seems to be more to it than death from the desert condition, they might have been massacred; i don't think they all died from starvation or from the desert heat otherwise, they wouldn't have been in one particular area as some would have struggled further

bandiejay:
@vicjustice: sorry for the late reply.

What happened to those dead bodies we all saw from the clip is that those passengers boarded the wrong land cruiser Jeep, which happens like this.
example from Dirkou ( Niger) to Ghat ( Libya) is up to 2,700km This jeep would cruise day and Night for 5days , if you are lucky to go with the right guild and driver.
in some cases the so call drivers are very very very wicked because there is so much money from this bussiness example on each Jeep 33 passengers go on the trip you can imagine $200 per head =$6,600 for the drivers they make the trip twice in a month if they are Real and God fearing but for the bad drivers Devil would take over there heart and decide to drop the passengers in the middle of the desert where there is no food , nor water and lie to the that the jeep is faulty. Now they have no other option than to instruct them to come down to push the vehicle . as long as this is done the driver will drive away without looking back.
we saw similar shits like this but luckily for the passenger on the other vehicle they told us they have been on that spot for 3days 3 people died while some walked away in process of survival adventure Our driver was a very good God fearing Arab man he used is Thuraya cell to call some other drivers to come to that spot and gave them the direction you might be wondering how come does desert got address? yea i got to know that as well that very day because i also wondered how they know the route they read compass and follow the MAP in hand.
I think this is what happened to them and i have no doubt about it . All the same May there Gentle soul rest in peace

Man, thank you for your time and explanation, your analysis does make meanings.

maxtum:
@ Vicjustice, how you doing? hope you remember me! would try and send you a link to my post you advised on 7 months ago! well! am back and ready to re-apply again.

this my email addy jummy609@yahoo.com plz send me a mail so i could send you more details.

Hi, i remember you, the guy whose visa was refused on the ground of inconsistent bank statement.
I understand that you have something to discuss with me in private, but may i suggest you feel free to share it here? The advantages of sharing it here is encouraging: If you share it here, others in similar situations might gain knowledge from it: Besides, you would have more than one person sharing their thoughts with you and you would have variety of quality advice to help in balancing your scale. But if however you still think it's something you don't want to make public, then let me know.

Dear Bandiejay
As someone who personally experienced this route youself, could you please give us an insight about what probably happened to those guys, what do you think possibly gone wrong and how come the dead bodies are concentrated in a particular area?

ishit4body:
Any topic you start in which you venture to speak anything against living abroad, always gets these pap eaters raising their voices against you and crying "abroad phobia", you cant get a visa" and all what knots?

When you start a topic that speaks ill about Nigeria and you are the lonesome voice crying and saying Nigeria is not that bad, these yam scroungers also cry and shout you down that you are not making sense?

When you start a topic that seems to derile travelling abroad, these goat stealing twerps run you down and speak broadly about the abroad as if you hate them and their choice of living abroad.

What is the problem here? If you like, carry abroad put for head like Stephen Keshi, na you sabi, which one be say we hate all abroad people? Why?

You're not innocent yourself, i observed that you're very quick in swearing and cursing, you insult people who tend to criticize you, so, you too need to learn to be civil and compositive when responding to critics' comments. This is my judgement.

No one can can kick against you, my dear B_B, at least, i'm a witness to how you crushed down a group of people who teamed up to oppress individuals of good-will into subject of bully, so, i doubt any individual can take on you one on one.
   Little do i wonder how the same Fbiswagger who accorded me as "Silly & Ignorant" has created a very intelligent & Attentive thread at:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-550777.0.html

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xxcarolxx:
The rich travellers do have mobile homes like this, but not all of them will live like this, No they prefer to be called travellers, its when peeps use the term knacker or tinker, they feel its racist, On the tarmacadam note don't hire them, as they can rip you off, or not put down the tarmacadam correctly, Even if you do know them well, Yes i'm Irish,

It seems you don't so much like them, do you ?

tunapa4dem:
@Vicjustice, good day sir, pls can you tell me about czech republic as at 2010, because i want to go there and study. i will like to know may i can work and study. i want to know maybe if i have like 2000 euro i can start somthing doing there while i am study.

I'm really very sorry for this late reply, i haven't been checking this thread for ages now.
Certainly, if you are a student, you'd be allowed to take up employment, but the number of hours that you're allowed to work is the question, and given that you'd be a student with school obligations, it is logical that you'd not be allowed to take up a full time job.
As for the 2000 Euro for "something", what exactly do you intend to do?

justhustle:
hello vicjustice and co
,i wish to know if it is possible to change status while in canada,
i mean going in with a visitors visa and on getting to canada,before the expiration of the 6 months temporary visa change status to,say student category,
i would like to know the processes/procedures and possible duration
your comment would really be appreciated.

*Canada, with its size bigger than the USA and a population of less than 32 million is highly underpopulated and in need of immigrants: its immigration rules as well as its legalisation and naturalisation policies are argueably the most immigrant friendly in the world, people who entered the country by deceitful means are able to legalise themselves by one means or the other therefore, i expect it to be easier for someone who entered with a visa

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-94557.0.html

justhustle:
hello vicjustice and co
,i wish to know if it is possible to change status while in canada,
i mean going in with a visitors visa and on getting to canada,before the expiration of the 6 months temporary visa change status to,say student category,
i would like to know the processes/procedures and possible duration
your comment would really be appreciated.

*Canada, with its size bigger than the USA and a population of less than 32 million is highly underpopulated and in need of immigrants: its immigration rules as well as its legalisation and naturalisation policies are argueably the most immigrant friendly in the world, people who entered the country by deceitful means are able to legalise themselves by one means or the other therefore, i expect it to be easier for someone who entered with a visa

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-94557.0.html

justhustle:
hello vicjustice and co
,i wish to know if it is possible to change status while in canada,
i mean going in with a visitors visa and on getting to canada,before the expiration of the 6 months temporary visa change status to,say student category,
i would like to know the processes/procedures and possible duration
your comment would really be appreciated.

*Canada, with its size bigger than the USA and a population of less than 32 million is highly underpopulated and in need of immigrants: its immigration rules as well as its legalisation and naturalisation policies are argueably the most immigrant friendly in the world, people who entered the country by deceitful means are able to legalise themselves by one means or the other therefore, i expect it to be easier for someone who entered with a visa

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-94557.0.html

kingspalas:
@vicjustice: i'm sorry about the sms text typing. But thanks a zillion for your great efforts.so many destinies hav been saved thru your guide here. I wil provide answers to those questions so you can help me see if they are ok. I wont be going for asylum but what makes people seek it.

Though there isn't a question-mark, but i presume you were asking a question to know why people seek asylum.
   Sincerely talking, 99% of Nigerian seeking asylum would not have sought it if they found other avenues through which they can obtain legal status to live and work in their adopting countries. So, the reasons that Nigerians seek asylum has got more to do with pleading to be granted the privilege to stay in the foreign country with the aim and objective to secure their economic future rather than the fear of persecution and authority killing that most Nigerians actually claim.

kingspalas:
Also how much fund say minimum must one have with him on this trip at least to ensure easy pasage at the airport.does posession of credit card an advantage.

The amount of money you are expected to have with you would depend on the length of time that you would be staying in the country, but the more money you have, the better you are assessed. So, try to reduce the number of days that you'd declare that you're staying for. I can advice you on how long you should tell them that you're staying if i know how long your visa is valid for.

kingspalas:
does posession of credit card an advantage.

The possession of Credit Card is an advantage, but it's not essential. While credit card can represent your assessability to funds, it also gives you an edge on credit rating. Everybody is aware that one needs to meet up to certain bank requirements in order to qualify for a Credit Card, and such requirements include: regular income, lengthy employment, permanent work contract, reliable home address and credit worthiness etc. So, to answer your question, you don't need a credit card to pass through immigration, it's only an added advantage.

kingspalas:
. . . I have relatives in italy,holand,denmark ,london and a few friends in germany. With schengen visa can i acess any of this locations. Your guide brothers

Affirmative. With Schengen visa, you can travel freely to any of these countries as many times as you desire, you won't even have anything to do with Immigration officers, the only people that would check your passport are airline staff at your departure airport; On arrival, you won't even be seeing any immigration officer as the airline will taxi through the Schengen wing of the airport where you can freely walk out through the terminal into the city without even showing your passport to anyone. It is a free borderless zone binding by the Schengen treaty agreement.

I understand that the poor man (probably) attacked Obj in his anger and frustration due to the situation of things in the country which he believed are as results of bad governance, but that isn't he best way to handle it; more like the shoe thrower against President Bush, these poor fella only succeeded in getting themselves given hell of a beating and imprisonments.
Mr & Mrs Siena, i hail o!

kingspalas:
Dear brovs &sists. Germany from all indication hz about 90% chances of becoming my travel destination frm naija prety soon on schengen v. honestly i don't intend to be back.even after the kpali 'goes out'. i see it as an opportunity to hlp my sef& family back here. Pls what are the steps i nid to take rite from my arival at airport to where i wil gt cheap accomdatn,plus other things i shld do or not do to avoid traps that cld possibly send me back to sqr1. Also i wld want to know the best aproach to securing the status that wil alow one work, as i'm not disposed to the dirty&fast one. I love u all.

Next time you write in this kind of sms text English, i will not waste my time on efforts to understand you.
   Your first challenge, and perhaps the most important one would be getting through the airport. Bear in mind that a visa does not guarantee you entry into a country, an immigration officer reserves the rights to allow or refuse you entry; therefore, you need to prepare yourself for the possible questions that you would be asked at the port of entry.
The likely questions are:
* Where are you coming from?
* What's your purpose of coming to Germany?
* Where would you be staying?
* How long would you be staying for?
* Do you have a return ticket?
* What would you be doing in the country?
* How much money are you supporting yourself with?
* Do you have a credit card?
* Do you intend to visit another country?
* Do you have any contact in Germany?
   Prepare what to reply just in case these questions are fired at you: Answer them wisely as a little suspicion can result in your stoppage, but let's hope you don't meet an immigration officer who really wants to go into detail questions with you because, given that your intention isn't genuine, you might just give yourself away with your answers, and remember that these guys know about psychology.

Note: Immigration officers tend to work with speed when there are long queues of people so, ensure that you position yourself in the middle of a long queue of arriving passengers because you wouldn't want to be in a position that would make it easy for them to comfortably ask you all sort of different questions. And if however they detect that you are not a genuine visitor, then, seek instant asylum.

   As for accommodation, What do you really intend to do, would you be seeking asylum? If so, then the German authority would sort out an accommodation for you pending your application for asylum, but if you're not seeking asylum, then you need to find and arrange with someone who would harbour you even before leaving Nigeria, this is very important.
   And as for the securing of residence/work permit, i must honestly warn you that this would be a hard task, but you have to get there first and then, you'd see what others are doing to secure their own documents, those who are already in the system should show you the way, but really, be careful with criminals, German police/security are some of the best in the world.

Siena:
Awww! Come on, bro! You don't believe in all this black magic stuff, do you? Funkybaby was only pulling your leg. She's pretty harmless, she wouldn't hurt a fly.

Ha, no way, Siena, i never would believe in such primitive thing; but the fact that a Nairaland user openly admitted that she extracted my photo from Nairaland for the purpose of evil is something abhorred.

bullet G:
yes he can use it 2 apply 4 visa and then go to his wife's country n file 4 his residence permit there, all he has to do is send his original greek marriage cert with apostile on it , data page of his passport, and a copy of his vevosi to his wife 2 register d marriage in her country, after then d wife will send him an invitation letter and an original marriage cert frm her country n some other little doc n he will get the visa, feel free 2 ask any more questions,

Man, not so. You should realise that Greece is a Schengen state and that the holders of its Residence Permit do not need a visa for Shengen countries.
   But concerning Bebeosi; this hugely depends on the Greek authority and the embassy of the country that he is visiting. Like i explained in my analysis about Bebeosi, it is a certificate of registration, and what a holder can do with it depends on what the Greek authority allows, so, stating that it can be used to apply for a visa would be wrong; in most cases, the terms of this paper-document is not defined, and the conditions are flexible and adjustable: there are cases when holders have been allowed to travel only to their own countries with them, and there are cases when vevoesi holders are not allowed to leave Greece at all, and there are instances when people who are not allowed to leave Greece consulted the authority and request for permission to leave Greece, and sometimes, they are granted such permission with strict time frame regulations, and sometimes, they are not granted the permission: I had a friend who left Greece with veveosi and was not allowed to re-enter the country, he was detained for several days in the immigration cell at El. Venezelous airport before being deported back to Nigeria where he stayed for several weeks before being grated a visa to return to Greece and continue with his papers (he was granted the visa because he had compelling reasons to return to Greece), most people never get the visa to return back to greece.
   So now, the usage of veveosi widely depends on what the Greek authority allows: and while Greece is a Schengen country and aliens holding its residence permit do not require visas to travel freely within the Schengen states, the Veveosi holders do not enjoy same privilege and most embassies would not issue a visa to a veveosi holder because, it is not defined that a vevosi holder will be allowed re-entry into to Greece (you should know that this is a basic requirement).
   Your friend has to consult the Greek authority and see if he's allowed to travel out and return freely to Greece, and also, he has to visit the embassy of his wife's country to see if he'd be issued a visa with Veveosi, this is the only way he can find out for sure.

eghost247:
Vicjustice
did u use this vevosi
and for how long
did u use it?

The nature of documents that i've used or that i'm currently using is not something i feel comfortable to disclose at this point, i might disclose it if i were corresponding with you in private, but as things are now, i'm sorry to be disappointing you this time: Experience has taught me never to feel free with Nairalanders any more, i used to be very free and sharing with every one, even sharing my personal details both with personal and family photos until people began to abuse me with insults, even Funkybaby threatened to use my photos for Ijebu black magic charm and no action was taken by the Administrator regarding such abuse. I hope you understand.

miladelly:
@Vicjustice, my dear my mum has got her visa, i appreciate your contribution right from the beginning to this very end, am a lady, dont know how i will address you, well, am just so thankful u r d best, n pls lets be pals my email address is bibzahs@yahoo.com u deserve a treat from me mail be pls in i will call u as soon as i get your contact details. i truly respect u for taking that time in replying n also u were specific as to what n what should be included in d fresh application n i did as u said, u r a genius.

make sure u mail me, am waiting u will be glad u know me i promise.

Honestly, i had the impression that you're a man.
   So good to hear the success story and to understand how appreciative you are for the little we did to encourage. But i don't believe it was by miracle that your mom got the visa, i just think she merits it, afterall, many people who don't even believe in God do get visas as well; but we give God thanks in all things.
   I'll send you an email as you requested. Appreciated.

miladelly:
@ahonohai
@Vicjustice
@everybody
pls i would appreciate if i can get response as regards to this, my mum whose visa was refused in june sent in an appeal and the hearing date is Dec 6, we decided to reapply as well where we addressed all the reason for previous refusal todays is 21 working days that we have sent in the new visa application, but we not yet received the reply.

But last week, somebody from the British high commission Abuja called my mum on the phone and told her that she applied for visa and she was refused that's as regards to the first application my mum said yes, the person that called my mum now told where was she at the moment my mum she she was in Ibadan, the person told my mum to go the Lagos with her passport that the visa will be issued to her within 2 days but if she decided to go through Abuja where she made the first application then, it will take a month, my mum now told the person that called from the embassy that she has reapplied for again as in she has sent in her passport for with the new application. the person now told my mum that if the visa is not granted to her that she shouldn't worry that she should just come to embassy with her passport that a visa will be issued to her

In essence, as at now we have appeal pending the hearing date is Dec 6 2010

we have send in another visa application addressing all the reasons the first visa was refused todays is 21 working days we have heard nothing

Also, before we sent in the appeal to UK we wrote a letter to the embassy for administrative review where they said that they still maintained the grounds as to why the visa was refused then. so pls i dont seem to understand why she was called from the embassy also will the person who called her find out that she has reapplied as my mum told the person that she has put in for another application but the person said if she is refused God forbid that she should then bring her visa. pls could some advice me about this thanks so much, i expect to hear from you vicjuistice.

I hope you're certain that the caller was a genuine someone to start with.
   When you write a letter to the UK embassy requesting administrative review, the letter is supposedly brought to the office of the Entry clearance Manager (ECM) where your file is supposed to be reviewed, but thanks to the numerous applicants who abuse this system (by which some of them request administrative review even when their visas were refused for reason of fake documents), the ECM hardly ever make the review before upholding to the original decision howbeit, it's logical that they consult the Entry Clearance Officer (ECO) that originally refused the application.
  In your mother's case, i presume the ECM has carefully reviewed her application even after upholding to the original decision and has now reconsidered it for approval. Bear in mind that the embassy receives great volume of applications on daily basis, so, even if the files are kept in order, it is sometimes difficult keep track of them hence the confusion about the position and status of your mother's passport.
  Knowing that your mother's visa is apparently approved pending the presentation of her passport, i'll encourage you to wait for them to return it, she might not even need to re-submit the passport for the visa as i sense that the visa would be issued in this current application any time soon.

eghost247:
Lol thanks for the Information
i just felt surprised when he told me he got a Vevosi and i said ah what is Vevosi
that he is supposed to get his sticket
so i wanted to know what the drill is
and i remember u saying something about that document
how come u know so much about the Vevosi
did u use one and for how long before they called u to get your permit

I lived in Greece longer than i ever lived in any other country, and when i live in a place, i study and observe things around so i won't be ignorant with the system and the people: I speak Greek as fluent as i speak English and therefore, i can say i know Greece as much as i know the back of my hand.
Now, like i explained before, Veveosi is a certificate of registration which is issued to an alien whose residence permit is pending, there is no time frame involved with this paper-document, a holder can hold it for several years until s/he is issued or denied the actual Residence Permit: Veveosi is mockingly referred to as Perimene which means Hold-on or wait.

[quote author=saridon_p link=topic=549529.msg7125400#msg7125400 date=1289517152]Point of correction the Greeks hate Turkish and also Albanians but hate turkish more with a passion and not all muslims as you said.They bleeping hate Turkish like forever![/quote]There's no point of correction in this because, what you have said is only a part of the reality. I lived in Greece longer than i ever lived in any other country, and i speak the language as fluent as i speak English, therefore, my knowledge about Greece and the Greeks is accurate. Now, i don't think you've been to north Eastern Greek towns and cities like Komotini, Orestiada, Xanthi, Alexandropoli etc and see how the Greek muslim minority feel about Greece. Greek people do not shy off to say "Aimeis oi Ellines, den theloume muslima stin chora mas" ("We the Greeks, do not want Muslims in our country". Of course, it can't be every Greek who agrees with this, but the fact remains that the majority of the Greeks are conservative Orthodox "christians" and do not want any other religion to survive in Greece.

   I am not a Muslim, but i know the Greeks dislike Islam. And if you think they do not have problem with Islam, why is there not a single mosque in Athens? I was in Greece during the time when some Asian people set up a make-shift mosque in Plateia Koliatsu, i remember how there was a great uproar and protest by the Greek public calling the move a "tresspass against the Hellenic value". So, what are you saying here, that the Greeks love Islam but hate Albanians and Turkish only; by the way, what country in Europe is not afraid of Islam now-a-days?

ikeyman00:
^^^^

and mine was ignore cuz im igbo abi

i send some nl could go to hell if they like

Have you got problem with yourself for being an Igbo man?

ikeyman00:
house oooo biko

what happen when one went for paper appeal never heard some sort of feedbacks with all the requested evidence provided to BHC Abuja for over 3 months now plz

menhhh what is happening over there

By the way, how can anyone tell you "what is happening there" when none of us work there?

Why did you upload the photo of a crying baby?
Anyway, your kid is cute, He just had my vote

*   This article was my initial response to a thread in which someone requested of me to enlighten him about the Greek Residence Permit, and i thought it would help to share it in a new thread of its own.
   Bebeosi (pronounce Veveosi) is a Greek word which is being translated as certificate in English language. Now, when an alien applies for a fresh or for a renewal of a Greek Residence Permit (known as Adeia Paramonis), he or she is issued a Bebeosi (certificate) of application usually in the form of an officially stamped paper-document with no significant authenticity. This temporal document is deemed valid for as long as the authority takes to renew the Residence Permit or the time it takes them to reach decision which can take several years in some occasions.
   This system of Bebeosi coming between Residence Permit application or its renewal is a measure of delay tactic which the Greek authority apparently applies to frustrate aliens who are qualified (or are deemed eligible by amnesty) for the Greek residence permit. Though a Bebeosi holder is eligible for almost everything that an actual Residence permit holder is eligible for, but the length of time that a Bebeosi holder can stay outside Greece is strictly regulated, and in some cases, a Bebeosi holder would have to contact the authority in order to get clearance to leave the country and also to know how long he or she can stay away.
   Greece is an Orthodox country, about 95% of the Greeks are conservative orthodox "Christians", this is the reason it has always been difficult to obtain Greek citizenship, the cause dating back to the Ottoman empire period when the Greeks were ruled by muslim Turks for 400 years. Back then, they had a policy that whoever is baptised in the Orthodox church is a Greek, and whoever is not baptised is a Turk. This belief and practice was the traditional way by which the Hellas identified themselves as Greeks and the system has continued over time until this present day despite the modern civilization. Now, having been occupied and enslaved by the muslim Turks for 400 years, and having managed to repel the occupiers in a struggle that resulted in the Greek losing their cherished land Constantinople-Istanpolio (Istanbul) to Turkey which subsequently converted the magnificient "Holy Sophia" Church into a Mosque, the surviving Greeks now hate Muslims with passion, this hatred is the root cause of the Greek government's delay tactics by which they use the Bebeosi system to make it extremely difficult for aliens from Muslim world to get long term residence permit that would eventually qualify them for the Greek citizenship; The majority of immigrants seeking Residence permit in Greece are Muslims from Albania and the Asian world, and the Greeks are not comfortable with this fact and unfortunately, those who are not Muslims are also affected by this authority grievances: It would interest you to know that many people in their quest for the Greek passport turn orthodox and get orthodox baptizm which involves a ritual in which a protion of their hair is cut off as an oath of membership and faithfulness to the orthodox sect.
   How much are you gonna pay me for this?

Bebeosi (pronounce Veveosi) is a Greek word which is being translated as certificate in English language. Now, when an alien applies for a fresh or for a renewal of a Greek Residence Permit (known as Adeia Paramonis), he or she is issued a Bebeosi (certificate) of application usually in the form of an officially stamped paper-document with no significant authenticity. This temporal document is deemed valid for as long as the authority takes to renew the Residence Permit or the time it takes them to reach decision which can take several years in some occasions.
   This system of Bebeosi coming between Residence Permit application or its renewal is a measure of delay tactic which the Greek authority apparently applies to frustrate aliens who are qualified (or are deemed eligible by amnesty) for the Greek residence permit. Though a Bebeosi holder is eligible for almost everything that an actual Residence permit holder is eligible for, but the length of time that a Bebeosi holder can stay outside Greece is strictly regulated, and in some cases, a Bebeosi holder would have to contact the authority in order to get clearance to leave the country and also to know how long he or she can stay away.
   Greece is an Orthodox country, about 95% of the Greeks are conservative orthodox "Christians", this is the reason it has always been difficult to obtain Greek citizenship, the cause dating back to the Ottoman empire period when the Greeks were ruled by muslim Turks for 400 years. Back then, they had a policy that whoever is baptised in the Orthodox church is a Greek, and whoever is not baptised is a Turk. This belief and practice was the traditional way by which the Hellas identified themselves as Greeks and the system has continued over time until this present day despite the modern civilization. Now, having been occupied and enslaved by the muslim Turks for 400 years, and having managed to repel the occupiers in a struggle that resulted in the Greek losing their cherished land Constantinople-Istanpolio (Istanbul) to Turkey which subsequently converted the magnificient "Holy Sophia" Church into a Mosque, the surviving Greeks now hate Muslims with passion, this hatred is the root cause of the Greek government's delay tactics by which they use the Bebeosi system to make it extremely difficult for aliens from Muslim world to get long term residence permit that would eventually qualify them for the Greek citizenship; The majority of immigrants seeking Residence permit in Greece are Muslims from Albania and the Asian world, and the Greeks are not comfortable with this fact and unfortunately, those who are not Muslims are also affected by this authority grievances: It would interest you to know that many people in their quest for the Greek passport turn orthodox and get orthodox baptizm which involves a ritual in which a protion of their hair is cut off as an oath of membership and faithfulness to the orthodox sect.
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