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TravelRe: Uk Visa - Visa Appeal Process by Vicjustice: 11:46am On Apr 07, 2008
meanest:
@VOR, Akolawole, Mr Pataki,Funkybaby

I sent in my student visa appeal in february & I got a call from the high Commission to come over with my passport, updated bank stmt, letter of admission & original WAEC cert.

This I did and when i got there, the ECO collected the WAEC cert, statements. I initially applied for january 2008 start at the university but when the visa was denied, i deferred till sept 2008.

The ECO then asked when the school was resuming which i stated (sept 2008). She then stated that they will contact me later.

She kept my original WAEC cert and when i asked for it, she said they want to verify it. It has been close to a month m=now and I have not heard anything from them.

what do I do?
Thanks
Meanest
Nothing, i suppose; JUST WAIT in anticipation.
Music/Radio"Olugbese Obasanjo" by Vicjustice(op): 2:13am On Apr 07, 2008
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 1:58am On Apr 07, 2008
Cadet:
Nigeria is very diverse. With more than 250 tribes
So, is this a good or bad thing?
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 1:38am On Apr 07, 2008
stillwater:
@ sly

I couldn't think of anything undecided, that's why I said weather, at least the topic asked for just one thing wink
  You tried Jare grin
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 1:31am On Apr 07, 2008
[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]*sighs*
Talking about one good thing. . .all y'all could think of is weather!!
Website. . . . pur pur pur pur et all!!

During summer. . its all hot in the state and yet! if the state is declared visa free today . .
I bet in 130mills Nigerians. . 120mills would leave the country regardless of the weather y'all are talking about here!![/quote]Indeed

[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]I am not anti-Nigeria but lets just face the truth!
When we talk about something good! it is supposed to be something that even. .
A toddler would consider as something good without any doubt whatsoever![/quote]Wise talk

[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]Examples. . Good roads. . .
           Uninterrupted power supply
           Good water supply. . .

That is what i want to see but no! all y'all could do is to go and dig out some scratches out. .
Like david beck's cloth designer or whaever!![/quote]  Abi?

[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]And come to think of it. .most of you here that are saying ''this is good that is good'' about Nigeria are based abroad!! either studying or working. . why don't y'all come back home. . . If y'all are so sure that its cool in Nigeria?[/quote]. . .has just hit the nail

[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]Put anything "Scam" on google. , Top ten results would be about Nigeria[/quote]. . .Definitely
[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]Epileptic educational system. . . where students that ought to spend 4 years in school. .
They would end up spending like6 to 7years as a result of strike? undecided[/quote] . . .Too bad. . .

[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]The list is too long, the truth is bitter. . lets face it sad. . .lets not decieve ourselves here!!!
Come out with something impregnable and not all this yada yada ding dang!!!!!![/quote]It's endless, reserve the rest for later
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 2:30pm On Apr 06, 2008
pahtahkee:
Hypocrisy at its peak!! Are you telling there are no beggars on the street of Dublin? Agreed they may be limited, what have you contributed back to the suffering of the masses in Nigeria? Or that sit down there and write a cheap score because you see considerable amount of paupers who live by begging. You stated you were in Nigeria last Dec/Jan what was your contribution to the masses you saw living by begging?

In fact, I am going to stop here. The youtube link you brought up in this very thread has nothing to do with paupers living by begging. I wonder where your stand is. Neither here nor there reminds me of an oscillating pendulum.
Those who know Ireland understand that unlike in Nigeria where the beggars are mainly abandoned and frustrated Nigerian citizens (families for that matter), the scanty beggars in ireland are mainly lazy Gypsy families or junkies, and it's under intensive control. It's virtually impossible to find an Irish beggar, a normal person in that matter
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 12:35pm On Apr 06, 2008
[quote author=Jackal. link=topic=125201.msg2126707#msg2126707 date=1207480587]I beg to differ. . . .There's nuthing GOOD about Nigeria.
We as Nigerians shouldn't be covering the facts that Nigeria could be better than what we have on our hands.
Granted, y'all can talk about stock exchange, investment banking and the growth of multinational companies but don't we deserve better?

Considering we are the 5th largest oil producing country in the world, i must say Nigeria has failed.
How do we explain the fact that Nigerian people in the 21st century don't have access to 24/7 electricity and portable water??
People are getting poorer by the minute and the whole country is in a big mess. . . . .

Ghana are miles ahead and you are saying u can see something good? Dude, take off your rose-tinted goggles.[/quote]At last, there's someone with the courage to oppose the motion that there is (one) something good in Nigeria.
   To my observation, those who see Nigeria having one thing good to talk about are mainly those who don't give much thoughts about the poor masses or to the considerable amount of paupers who live by begging.
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 11:39am On Apr 06, 2008
PAHTAHKEE,
  STOP YOUR UNREASONABLE ACCUSATION RIGHT NOW!
  DON'T BRING YOUR TROUBLE INTO THIS THREAD, YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FORMER BEING LOCKED FOR REASON OF YOUR RANDOM FIGHT WITH ALMOST EVERYONE, THIS IS A THREAD FOR MATURE DEBATE AND NOT ONE FOR CHILDISH FIGHT, SO DO NOT START THAT MISBEHAVIOUR OR REPEAT YOUR USUAL QUARREL WITH ANYONE HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION!
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 11:31am On Apr 06, 2008
lucabrasi:
theres a lot of good things in nigeria
there's the nigerian stock exchange that has traded in excess of billions of pounds as at last year
nigeria s a growing and vibrant economy rate of inflation is going down every year right now its in single digits
nigeria is investment friendly especially in real estate, its much more feasible and you will enjoy more returns if you invested in properties in nigeria than even the uk or the united states especially with the mortgage crisi they are facing now.
there are more jobs in nigeria with the advent of the multinationals,the telecoms giants like mtn,globacom e.t.c
there is a better quality of life in nigeria example is that with a salary of less than 2000ponds you can afford an housemaid,live in a nice area,and afford a beautiful quality of life with secrity which someone earning same thing in the uk or united states cannot afford on that salary.
the weather is beautiful
the people generally are warm and friendly,it might not mean much to some people but people have been frustrated and had psychological trauma because of loneliness and its gotten to a stage where you live on a street for tens of years and you don't know your neighbour.
meen the food in nigeria is heaven,
you will get more value for your money in nigeria
when it comes to global warming i think we are doing more than so many western countries where they waste everything, its a culture of repaire in nigeria and multiple uses for junk, nigerians will repair stuffs rather than replace,we don't shop with pastic bags once and chuck it in the bin rather use it again and again e.t.c
My goodness, who's this wonderful fella?
 I confess you impressed me with this wonderful analisis, i couldn't do any better. BUT, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL THESE WHILES?
 Now, where are those of us who believe that there's not a good thing in Nigeria, do we have any challenge to this analisis?
 
@ Siena and Iamworried,
  IT IS A DEBATE
  I'm not anti Nigeria, in the sense that it is my nation and i do go there every now and then, and i enjoy it, but that doesn't mean that i like the condition of the country or the situation of things. I remember shedding tears at the sight of crowds of beggar by the road sides, northern women and children and no one is dropping even a coin for them. i wonder how they manage to feed. Infact, i gave them what i could, but how many baggers can i help?
 Shouldn't there be reception, rehabilitation or charity recreation centres for such?
TravelRe: How Does It Feel To Be Rejected A Visa? by Vicjustice: 2:36am On Apr 06, 2008
oyindaries:
hi everyone ,
to be honest, visa refusal can be a terrible experience, i was in that position once, so i know how it is like. That was the more reason why i left the uk for spain. i actually thought that it was the end of the world, but then spain was the best move ever, everything in my life started to fall into place, spain might not be the uk or the usa, but it is a gateway to europe. But note that papers in this country can equally be difficult, but the secret is the northern side of spain, to get work visa from nigeria from this part of spain is very easy. all you need is a work contract from here for you to take to the embassy in nigeria.

if anyone is intrested let me know my email address is oyindaries@yahoo.co.uk succes rate is high.
In my entire years of travel experience, you're apparently the first guy i understand left the UK in search of a future in Spain of all countries. I thought you came to share genuine experience, little did i know you're a predator looking for preys. Anyway, this is for guys like you:

EXPOSER:
Yes , This is where i am looking for,

@academy,
Now answer the questions tabled above,
There is nothing like protocol to someone who has no documents to back up his/her visa application, 
Dont even think about confusing people here, i have seen people like you,
I am not saying that you are not genuine. What i am saying is that you will have to explain everything here on nairaland.
None of this people who are desperate to travel deserve to be denied visa.
Think about how they feel if they don't have this visa,
Dont tell me that it doesnt concern you, So, if you want my people of great Nigeria to come to you,
Explain from A-Z, what will happen after the admission has been approved.
I am begging you to make things clear if your intentions are good
I am begging you to explain to them that the visa is not guarranteed even with admission from the best schools in the US,  I didnt se where you say anything here about your firm, You just encrypted your e mail address here as a trap for people who click carelessly, I hope to see your explanations by the time i wake up tomorrow or else , i will hunt you down to the slumps of Ajengunle,
EXPOSER:
What i am going to say here is out of experience, take it if u like or leave it. I have lived in Europe long enough to say this with certainty, It is about our boys in Spain, I know they will VERBALLY attack me as soon as they see this but like my father always say, OKWU ANA ASO ANYA ANAGHI EBI EBI. These people live in Europe. Due to the fact that getting a resident permit in Spain is easier more than any other schengen country, they took the advantage to extract more from their own brothers and sisters, Initailly they started scamming people in other parts of Europe like Germany , France, Holland, Belgium, Denmark,Sweden, Austria and many more, In these countries that i mentioned above, you can only get a resident permit through only one way, WOMEN OR MEN, its either you marry their daughter or impregnant them which both occurs under mutual agreement. I want you people out there to know that its not easy dealing with white women regarding what they regard us all to be thus giving birth to the rush for Spanish resident permits. In spain you can apply for a resident permit if you provide evidence that you have lived in the country for up to three years. Now ,this is where our players in Spain come in,  They will tell YOU to send two passport photograph, your international passport and so on, Then in a few days, they will tell you that they have submitted your documents to the lawyer and that the lawyer is demanding for some money to do this and that, Then your journey to bad experience begins, This is just the part one, i know that Nigerians doesnt love to read long stories, thats why i have to end this here, the part two will soon come out, to be contd
EXPOSER:
This is a continuation of the original topic,

These people in spain knows that the boys in other parts of Europe are already aware of what they do,NOW they turned their weapon to the next and most vulnerable place of them all, NIGERIA, (THUS PROVOKING ME)
They will call you and tell you that the Spanish govt has announced their intention to accept applications for resident permit. They will tell you initially that it wont cost you up to 500 euro, The worst is that they are people you know ,
REMEMBER THAT NOT ALL OF THEM ARE BAD,
They will ask you to bring the usual things,
1.international passport
2.passport photograph
3.Birth certificates in some cases
I know this is not my business but i have made it my business becasue the same people duped me of my money ,
Imagine how hard things are for our people in Nigeria, then some idiot living in Spain where there is constant electricity, good drinking water , good transportation system and so on, imagine them extracting money from strugglers in Nigeria, They are heartless and thats why i became fearless in exposing them,
Ask a Barrow pusher in Oshodi if he would want to travel over sea and you know what the response will be, This same barrow pusher will save money for years only to send it to one idiot in Spain becasue of travelling.
I m saying this for all Nigerians living in Nigeria to open their eyes and become aware of what is going on, The last time i was in Lagos, a boy living close to my place approached me with this issue. he said that he has sent over 90,000 naira to this guy in Spain and that for over ten months, the guy kept telling him the same thing, Lawyer said more money and more time is needed and Lawyer said that. I sat him down and told him to first of all, stop giving him money and secondly to accept the fact the he has been scammed, I asked him the documents he has sent to this guy and you will be suprised what this helpless guy told me, Just two passport photos and nothing more, I asked how he believed that someone could get him a resident permit without international passport and he replied that the guy promised to get him a Spanish passport, Imagine, I got the guys number and promised to be calling him. The last time i called him, he told me that the fellow in Spain whom he gave the money is now in nigeria, He said that he had a problem with the Spanish government and was deported,
The same faith awaits all of you scammers who eat the sweats of innocent victims, to be continued,
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 2:30am On Apr 06, 2008
@ Eldee,
. . .much wisdom in what you're saying, good debate there, keep it up.
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 1:20am On Apr 06, 2008
eldee:
Our hospitality, in nigeria, everyone knows everyone
You've made a some points about hospitality. I frequently travel to and fro Nigeria, i was in Nigeria December/January last, do you know how many people adviced (or rather warned) me not to accept food or drinks from anyone in Nigeria for fear of "spiritual" poison?
   Infact, these advisers frightened me up to the extent that i was beginning to be paranoid with suspicion even of them. So, what good hospitality is there when everyone fears his/her neighbour?

eldee:
Business Environment, maybe the best in Africa.
If only i understand what you mean by business environment smiley

eldee:
We've got megabrains like Soludo and that ex-Finance minister
Hmmmm, well someone once mentioned Wole Soyinka cheesy

eldee:
My dayzz, Abuja is arguably the most beautiful city in Africa.
"Beauty is in the eyes of beholder", they say.

eldee:
Our tourist attractions
I'm not Aware of any well functioning Tourist Attractions in Nigeria, if however there are some, how are they maitained and how are the incomes managed?
eldee:
Christmas in Naija is heaven
Yes, Christmas in "Nigeria is heaven" because that's a day that many people wait to have a taste of chiken and rice smiley

eldee:
Our style of dressing is so creme, especially when we blend.
I see, but yet, most of our youth prefere to dress the Yankee style cool
TravelRe: Is There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 1:11am On Apr 06, 2008
stillwater:
. . .Anyway going by the topic, the good thing I can think of right now about Nigeria is the weather.
My response in opposition to your point:
  Hey, what good whether is there to enjoy when the environments and air are polluted with dust and carbon monoxide smokes from scary vehicles and electric plants and generators?
 To what benefit is the rain when there is no drainage to channel the erosion?
 How does the rain benefit the poor market women and children who barely earn a living by street trading?

Well, i'm surprised that you are even talking about nature as the good thing in Nigeria, what about human achievements?
 Answer me
Now, i'm still waiting for someone to say one, and i mean ONE "good" thing about Nigeria?


And a surpporting response from Sly
Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"What kind of weather? u neglected the suffering masses. . .the bad roads. .
Poor communication. . .epileptic power supply et all. . .all u could think of is that dry annoying weather!!!!!!!!!

A place where u can't put on what u like because of the harsh terrible hot!! sun?
Lemme tell u. . . .Nigeria's weather is just a l.il iight with 2%merits and 98% demerits. . .
Heres what i mean
During the rainy season. . .nearly all the roads are always in a mess!! dirt and stuffs errwhere due to lack or maintenance!!
And during the dry season!!. . .there is always water scarcity. . . and that is the season their power supply is more unstable.
I prefer snow and stuffs to that spastic hot weather condition in Nigeria. . . .anytime. .any-day. .

If not because of A-C made cars and AC itself. . . do u think there would be any whitee in Nigeria?
You want to suffocate them? C'mon. . .tell me something else. . .
This your ''Good thing in Nigeria'' has been dishonorably dismissed with a wave of hand!!!!!!!!  

And i have the to say:"
TravelRe: Life In Various Foreign Countries: From My Experience by Vicjustice(op): 12:46am On Apr 06, 2008
Tegese:
and u think its only the attitude of the people in dublin where you stamped your a*s thats safe for blacks?
I suppose we understand the difference between safety and security. I never mentioned that anywhere is safe, being it anywhere, but i'm talking about security or protection by law. For instance, an Irish man dare not use racist word against you for fear of being prosecuted, where as, in some countries like Estonia, "you'd consider yourself fortunate if somebody says to your face "Go home nigger" or calls you "makaka" because, the same person could have shot or stabbed you and ran away".
TravelRe: Exposing The Spanish Boyz by Vicjustice: 12:35am On Apr 06, 2008
@ Sly, you're one other person i like reading his posts, your comments have always been mature and reasonable. I respect you, man.
TravelRe: Exposing The Spanish Boyz by Vicjustice: 12:24am On Apr 06, 2008
@Poster. Thank you for the info, i really do appreciate your time for sharing a first hand information.
 But (apart from fraud or scam issues), you didn't make any mention of the social activities of our people there; i believe many of us would like to hear more, especially the methods of "hustle" that they carry out to survive in Spain. Thanks.
TravelIs There Any Good Thing About Nigeria? by Vicjustice(op): 1:55pm On Apr 05, 2008
A European friend and colleague of mine referred me to this site bellow:
infact, i once had a conversation with this Italian mate: "Why is the media usually saying negative or bad things about Nigeria (Africa), don't you guys have anything good to say?", i asked.
The guy simply replied, "I'm afraid, i know NOTHING good to say about Nigeria (Africa)"
"Nothing at all", i questioned.
"Absolutely Nothing" he insisted. "OK, tell me one good thing about Nigeria (Africa) just ONE" He demanded.
I thought for a while, i just couldn't imagine anything "good" about Nigeria (Africa), the few (if any) thing that i'd consider good in Nigeria are the things in which western countries excel at. Though it hurts, but i can see reasons with them for saying negative things about Nigeria.

[flash=550,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZVVbGEOoCM[/flash]
Please, we're in a democratic society, therefore i implore you to see this as a debate rather than confrontation, with the understanding that everyone is entitled to his/her opinions, in other word; there shouldn't be any personal insult on anyone who sees things different from the way you see them.
So guys, let someone answer the Italian guy's question, can someone actually tell me one, and i mean ONE good thing about Nigeria?
LET'S GO!!!!! state one good thing please. . .
TravelNairaland Is An International Forum: Your Vote, Please by Vicjustice(op): 2:37am On Apr 01, 2008
I believe in freedom, and i believe that people are entitled to their own perspective and be given the right of chance to express their opinions on any given matter. Contrary to this, it would be interpreted as an unjust behaviour to the sensibility of some individuals.
 I am aware that this forum is privately owned, therefore i understand that the moderator reserves every right to do or undo whatever he pleases unquestionable. but however, given that the Nairaland forum is an internet one, he ought to acknowledge that it is an internation media and therefore, it should be treated as one; ie allowing the freedom of expression to be exercised in it.
 I am hereby using this means to suggest that Mr. Seun (the moderator) ought to releases a thread (which he has locked in his own authority) so that people may freely say their opinions in it. . . the thread is located in the address below:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-122027.0.html

What's your opinion about my request, i mean who is in support of the thread being realeased and who's against it? 
  Please, no insult or bashing words, just say your minds as your opinions will be appreciated.
  you may give your vote at the poll above. Remember, MAJORITY WINS THE VOTE.
TravelRe: How Does It Feel To Be Rejected A Visa? by Vicjustice: 2:06am On Mar 30, 2008
shocked What can i say?
TravelRe: Travle To Uk Or Accept Diamond Bank Job Offer, Which Is Better? by Vicjustice: 2:03am On Mar 30, 2008
Too many pieces of "advice" might leave you confused.
By the way, when are you or your "friend" due to make the decision?
As for me, i'd say both options are good, depending on your motives and your situations which no one knows better than yourself: Even, i can see that your advisers have split suggestions on the issue, that means, whether you take the bank job or you proceed to the UK, in either way, you can utilise your opportunity for an enviable career.
So, it's up to you.
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 5:27pm On Mar 29, 2008
4Him:
I'm perplexed myself . . .

@ topic - I think this thread is a more a personal attack on vicjustice than it is a defence of Nigeria.
I don't agree that there are no positives to take out of Nigeria, but we would be decieving ourselves if we try to claim that the negatives don't far outway any positives.
Funny that most of those who sound so "proud" of their country do so from the relative comfort of foreign nations. uh oh

Is Nigeria a disgrace? YES it is . . . we are the 6th largest producer of oil in the world and yet at the bottom of the development ladder. We have no business having an economy worse than that of Botswana, we have no business with almost 50% illiteracy rate, we have no business having 70% of our population below the poverty line, we have no business generating less power than Ghana.

No other OPEC member is so poor . . . we call ourselves the giant of Africa but all we have to show for it is a largely unfed and disenfranchised population and we come here pretending to "love" Nigeria.
@ 4Him, with  guys like You, Sly, EloSela, "figurehead" 4 Play, debosky and the host of other wise and realistic individuals, i am covered and don't have to care about the personal insults on me by "visa experts". Thank you bros/sis, talk to you later.
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 2:56am On Mar 29, 2008
pahtahkee:
You are the most inconsistent human being I have seen on this forum! Now I can understand why funkybaby and Dantecmu are always on your case. angry angry I was just going to quote your post that you directed to nalijah on the thread she wanted to view pictures of Nigeria, and I saw that you had gone to modify it. You were so quick to denigrate and malign her with the mindset that she was coming to slander Nigeria.

And the same thing you are doing here. Keep your ass in Dublin. I hate it when silly Nigerians who are opportuned to be in developed countries begin to yarn dust and look down on fellow Nigerians as if they were not once in such shoes!

Again this thread of yours was about a video your silly Westerner friend showed you, yet you posted this same topic in the Religion, Culture and Travel thread. Upon being questioned why you are this eager to show it here and there, you quickly went to modify it again. Yet you call yourself a Doctor. I expected better reasoning from someone with such a pedigree.

FYI, the youtube link was simply referring to children seeking refuge in churches due to the outcast their own society placed them in.

Such a shame.
We're not doing English course here, and it's got nothing to do with my profession; medicine has got sufficient complicated language of it's own that one (in the field) is less bothered about brighter grammar.
 But as a student of English literature and the number one proof-reader in Nairaland, how come you didn't realise that the word "opportuned" does not exist, and you used it? Don't disappoint me, mrpataki.
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 2:05am On Mar 29, 2008
Fela Kuti (RIP) whom we held in high esteem never in any of his tracks said anything good about Nigeria, in fact, he was labelled a dedicated trouble maker in Nigeria, yet. he was the most popular musician in the country.
 I care about Nigerians, i have helped a lot of people in many ways that i could, both in Nigeria and abroad, i love helping and corresponding with people, but still, the fact remains that Nigeria as a nation is not impressive: so, if anyone has problem with this fact, it's up to him.
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 5:33pm On Mar 28, 2008
pahtahkee:
You are the most inconsistent human being I have seen on this forum! Now I can understand why funkybaby and Dantecmu are always on your case. angry angry I was just going to quote your post that you directed to nalijah on the thread she wanted to view pictures of Nigeria, and I saw that you had gone to modify it. You were so quick to denigrate and malign her with the mindset that she was coming to slander Nigeria.

And the same thing you are doing here. Keep your ass in Dublin. I hate it when silly Nigerians who are opportuned to be in developed countries begin to yarn dust and look down on fellow Nigerians as if they were not once in such shoes!

Again this thread of yours was about a video your silly Westerner friend showed you, yet you posted this same topic in the Religion, Culture and Travel thread. Upon being questioned why you are this eager to show it here and there, you quickly went to modify it again. Yet you call yourself a Doctor. I expected better reasoning from someone with such a pedigree.

FYI, the youtube link was simply referring to children seeking refuge in churches due to the outcast their own society placed them in.

Such a shame.
If you'd lost a fortune or loved ones to armed rubbers, if you've been a victim of Police brutality, if you've suffered the system injustice, if you've been attacked by area guys, if your car had been bumped by another car that had no insurance, if you've had to pay money to bail your loved ones, if you've sat in a bus and had to wait for it to be filled before departure, if you've spent nine hours (due to bad road) on a journey that would normally take 3 hours, if you ever had struggle physically to get anything, if you've suffered TB and resorted to taking self-made "medicine" because you couldn't afford medication, if you've ever feared to prosecute a "big man" because the case might be turned against you by money power, if you ever had to use mosquito coil because you can't afford insecticide, if you've ever almost had an accident on a motto-bike used as taxi, if you've had a person dying of Kidney malfunction and you've had to deposit money before dialysis, if you've ever resorted to drilling boreholes in compounds to get watter, if you've ever been in a location where electric plants and generators noises prevail, if you've ever had a right-of-way fight with a licence "driver" who never attended driving school, if you've ever been in a situation where you can't wear your favourite white shoes shoes because of dust, if you've been in a location where vehicle horns are what woke you up every day, if you've had a situation whereby you have to raise your fence higher than the house for "security" reason, if you've ever been in a situation where you needed an emergency responds team, but they were just not there for you, if you've ever been an out cast as a little child because you were labelled a witch, if. . , if. . ; you will not be here saying this.
   I thought i explained to you the reason i didn't entertain nalijah07's request initially:   "You see, westerners usually ask questions about Nigeria (Africa in General) with negative curiosity: in most cases, they are correct in their opinions, but yet (though Nigeria is not an impressive country) nobody appreciates being insulted because s/he is from Nigeria.  Nigeria (i know) is not an impressive country. That's it".
   Therefore, you got to understand the difference between fair criticism (on Nigeria) and insulting the people because (because they are Nigerians).
   My posts were were edited and "modified" to achieve their objectives, they are not directed to any individual, not even you, therefore i won't appreciate being insulted for it.
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CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 1:33am On Mar 28, 2008
[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=122027.msg2098138#msg2098138 date=1206634197]Whats TKO?? ?? ??
However. . .Ma conclusion is that the white guy was absolutely right. . cool
With all the sweats here. . . you guys are yet to tell me just one good thing about Naija!!

What a country!!! sad[/quote]T[/b]echnical [b]K[/b]nock [b]O[/b]ut.

londoner:
Vicjustice, I think slagging a country off is different from giving constructive criticism. I am in no way in support of us burying our heads in the sand, that really isn't my point.

[b]We need to talk about what needs to change, and also be ready to be a part of changing it
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Before talking "about what needs to change" in Nigeria, we need to acknowledge the fact that Everything needs changes because there's nothing good in that country, not even ONE, or are you still saying that there is ONE GOOD THING?
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 4:09pm On Mar 27, 2008
londoner:
I understand someone who is curious coming to this site, but someone who sees nothing positive in Nigeria or Nigerians doing so seems illogical to me.
Not seeing positive things in Nigeria doesn't mean one should run away from anything Nigerian, and not saying anything about the negative things in Nigeria reminds me of Fela's "Suffering And Smiling" track.
My friend, the negative or evil things in Nigeria are too extreme and deserve more than just our attentions.

[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=122027.msg2097743#msg2097743 date=1206628646]. . .the only sensible argument i have had was with Danity. .
She got a li.l point but with too many ""buts. .ifs and maybes. .her point was dishonored and dismissed!! cool[/quote]Yes, perhaps you see that as the only sensible argument that you've had because, you enjoyed a TKO victory  grin
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 4:02pm On Mar 27, 2008
londoner:
Sly, did I direct my comment to you personally, or was it a general statement? My comment was quite simple really, many people here go on about how bad both Nigerians and Nigeria are, I am baffled as to why they still chose to belong to a Nigerian site, any suggestions?
The same reason or curiosity that brings westerners to Nigerian sites, i suppose.
TravelRe: How Does It Feel To Be Rejected A Visa? by Vicjustice: 2:39pm On Mar 27, 2008
ty4real:
Tuface for example,hin no read now but make hin show face for any embassy then never born the ECO wey go refuse am.
Perhaps it will interest you to know that even Snoop Doggy was refused a UK visa:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tm_headline=p-diddy-and-snoop-cancel-scottish-gig&method=full&objectid=18817668&siteid=66633-name_page.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/mar/28/musicnews.music
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 2:36pm On Mar 27, 2008
EloSela:
You can’t tell me to forget it and move on… grin grin

I may sound like a broken record Sir but I am only repeating the egotistical and silly BS you felt was necessary and relevant to contribute to this topic.

If you can’t handle the heat then try connecting your brain to your finger tips before typing out such crap again in future.
Nigerians!!! I'm just Laughing Out Loud grin grin grin LOL
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 3:03am On Mar 27, 2008
danity:
You're making this hard for me. I'm trying to be optimistic here.
One good thing about Nigeria that I've come to appreciate is the WEATHER! Okay - there is no but there for me. Environmentally, we are blessed with beautiful trees cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
When you stay in Snow and humidity, you learn to appreciate the rain and the sunny days.
THERE! No Buts, no ifs, no maybes!

smiley
Hey, what good whether is there to enjoy when the environments and air are polluted with dust and carbon monoxide smokes from scary vehicles and electric plants and generators?
  What beautiful trees are there in a forrest that is a nightmare to dare?
  To what benefit is the rain when there is no drainage to channel the erosion?
  How does the rain benefit the poor market women and children who barely earn a living by street trading?

Well, i'm surprised that you are even talking about nature as the good thing in Nigeria, what about human achievements?
  Answer me
Now, i'm still waiting for someone to say one, and i mean ONE "good" thing about Nigeria?
CrimeRe: Disgrace from Nigeria by Vicjustice(op): 12:44am On Mar 27, 2008
EloSela:
This isn't news and why are you drinking hot cocoa in the hot African sun, ? Never mind, lol

Some good things I would like to hear about Nigeria:

Constant electricity for all
The reduction of pot holed roads and the construction of new ones
An advanced mass transit system in all major cities around the country[/b]Low unemployment levels
Free nationalized health care
Free world class compulsory education for every Nigerian child aged between 4 and 16.
Free world class university education for every Nigerian citizen aged 17 to 30 who opts to further their education.

The list goes on and on.

I don't wish or need to hear about specific Nigerians bragging because they have managed to sit in an air-conditioned office drinking hot choc while the majority plods along in abject poverty and ignorance.
Wise talk, EloSela.
  Yes, one "good" thing about Nigeria is the system of transportation, ie a bus never departs unless it is full with passangers or load and can barely contain the driver: no departure or arrival time.

[b] Now, i'm still waiting for someone to say one, and i mean ONE "good" thing about Nigeria?
TravelRe: Travle To Uk Or Accept Diamond Bank Job Offer, Which Is Better? by Vicjustice: 1:56pm On Mar 26, 2008
Too many pieces of "advice" might leave you confused.
  By the way, when are you or your "friend" due to make the decision?
  As for me, i'd say both options are good, depending on your motives and your situations which no one knows better than yourself: Even, i can see that your advisers have split suggestions on the issue, that means, whether you take the bank job or you proceed to the UK, in either way, you can utilise your opportunity for an enviable career.
  So, it's up to you.

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