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meanest:Nothing, i suppose; JUST WAIT in anticipation. |
Cadet:So, is this a good or bad thing? |
stillwater:You tried Jare ![]() |
[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]*sighs* Talking about one good thing. . .all y'all could think of is weather!! Website. . . . pur pur pur pur et all!! During summer. . its all hot in the state and yet! if the state is declared visa free today . . I bet in 130mills Nigerians. . 120mills would leave the country regardless of the weather y'all are talking about here!![/quote]Indeed [quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]I am not anti-Nigeria but lets just face the truth! When we talk about something good! it is supposed to be something that even. . A toddler would consider as something good without any doubt whatsoever![/quote]Wise talk [quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]Examples. . Good roads. . . Uninterrupted power supply Good water supply. . . That is what i want to see but no! all y'all could do is to go and dig out some scratches out. . Like david beck's cloth designer or whaever!![/quote] Abi? [quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]And come to think of it. .most of you here that are saying ''this is good that is good'' about Nigeria are based abroad!! either studying or working. . why don't y'all come back home. . . If y'all are so sure that its cool in Nigeria?[/quote]. . .has just hit the nail [quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]Put anything "Scam" on google. , Top ten results would be about Nigeria[/quote]. . .Definitely [quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]Epileptic educational system. . . where students that ought to spend 4 years in school. . They would end up spending like6 to 7years as a result of strike? [/quote] . . .Too bad. . .[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=125201.msg2127054#msg2127054 date=1207497449]The list is too long, the truth is bitter. . lets face it . . .lets not decieve ourselves here!!!Come out with something impregnable and not all this yada yada ding dang!!!!!![/quote]It's endless, reserve the rest for later |
pahtahkee:Those who know Ireland understand that unlike in Nigeria where the beggars are mainly abandoned and frustrated Nigerian citizens (families for that matter), the scanty beggars in ireland are mainly lazy Gypsy families or junkies, and it's under intensive control. It's virtually impossible to find an Irish beggar, a normal person in that matter |
[quote author=Jackal. link=topic=125201.msg2126707#msg2126707 date=1207480587]I beg to differ. . . .There's nuthing GOOD about Nigeria. We as Nigerians shouldn't be covering the facts that Nigeria could be better than what we have on our hands. Granted, y'all can talk about stock exchange, investment banking and the growth of multinational companies but don't we deserve better? Considering we are the 5th largest oil producing country in the world, i must say Nigeria has failed. How do we explain the fact that Nigerian people in the 21st century don't have access to 24/7 electricity and portable water?? People are getting poorer by the minute and the whole country is in a big mess. . . . . Ghana are miles ahead and you are saying u can see something good? Dude, take off your rose-tinted goggles.[/quote]At last, there's someone with the courage to oppose the motion that there is (one) something good in Nigeria. To my observation, those who see Nigeria having one thing good to talk about are mainly those who don't give much thoughts about the poor masses or to the considerable amount of paupers who live by begging. |
PAHTAHKEE, STOP YOUR UNREASONABLE ACCUSATION RIGHT NOW! DON'T BRING YOUR TROUBLE INTO THIS THREAD, YOU WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FORMER BEING LOCKED FOR REASON OF YOUR RANDOM FIGHT WITH ALMOST EVERYONE, THIS IS A THREAD FOR MATURE DEBATE AND NOT ONE FOR CHILDISH FIGHT, SO DO NOT START THAT MISBEHAVIOUR OR REPEAT YOUR USUAL QUARREL WITH ANYONE HERE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION! |
lucabrasi:My goodness, who's this wonderful fella? I confess you impressed me with this wonderful analisis, i couldn't do any better. BUT, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL THESE WHILES? Now, where are those of us who believe that there's not a good thing in Nigeria, do we have any challenge to this analisis? @ Siena and Iamworried, IT IS A DEBATE I'm not anti Nigeria, in the sense that it is my nation and i do go there every now and then, and i enjoy it, but that doesn't mean that i like the condition of the country or the situation of things. I remember shedding tears at the sight of crowds of beggar by the road sides, northern women and children and no one is dropping even a coin for them. i wonder how they manage to feed. Infact, i gave them what i could, but how many baggers can i help? Shouldn't there be reception, rehabilitation or charity recreation centres for such? |
oyindaries:In my entire years of travel experience, you're apparently the first guy i understand left the UK in search of a future in Spain of all countries. I thought you came to share genuine experience, little did i know you're a predator looking for preys. Anyway, this is for guys like you: EXPOSER: EXPOSER: EXPOSER: |
@ Eldee, . . .much wisdom in what you're saying, good debate there, keep it up. |
eldee:You've made a some points about hospitality. I frequently travel to and fro Nigeria, i was in Nigeria December/January last, do you know how many people adviced (or rather warned) me not to accept food or drinks from anyone in Nigeria for fear of "spiritual" poison? Infact, these advisers frightened me up to the extent that i was beginning to be paranoid with suspicion even of them. So, what good hospitality is there when everyone fears his/her neighbour? eldee:If only i understand what you mean by business environment ![]() eldee:Hmmmm, well someone once mentioned Wole Soyinka ![]() eldee:"Beauty is in the eyes of beholder", they say. eldee:I'm not Aware of any well functioning Tourist Attractions in Nigeria, if however there are some, how are they maitained and how are the incomes managed? eldee:Yes, Christmas in "Nigeria is heaven" because that's a day that many people wait to have a taste of chiken and rice ![]() eldee:I see, but yet, most of our youth prefere to dress the Yankee style ![]() |
stillwater:My response in opposition to your point: Hey, what good whether is there to enjoy when the environments and air are polluted with dust and carbon monoxide smokes from scary vehicles and electric plants and generators? To what benefit is the rain when there is no drainage to channel the erosion? How does the rain benefit the poor market women and children who barely earn a living by street trading? Well, i'm surprised that you are even talking about nature as the good thing in Nigeria, what about human achievements? Answer me Now, i'm still waiting for someone to say one, and i mean ONE "good" thing about Nigeria? And a surpporting response from Sly Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "What kind of weather? u neglected the suffering masses. . .the bad roads. . Poor communication. . .epileptic power supply et all. . .all u could think of is that dry annoying weather!!!!!!!!! A place where u can't put on what u like because of the harsh terrible hot!! sun? Lemme tell u. . . .Nigeria's weather is just a l.il iight with 2%merits and 98% demerits. . . Heres what i mean During the rainy season. . .nearly all the roads are always in a mess!! dirt and stuffs errwhere due to lack or maintenance!! And during the dry season!!. . .there is always water scarcity. . . and that is the season their power supply is more unstable. I prefer snow and stuffs to that spastic hot weather condition in Nigeria. . . .anytime. .any-day. . If not because of A-C made cars and AC itself. . . do u think there would be any whitee in Nigeria? You want to suffocate them? C'mon. . .tell me something else. . . This your ''Good thing in Nigeria'' has been dishonorably dismissed with a wave of hand!!!!!!!! And i have the to say:" |
Tegese:I suppose we understand the difference between safety and security. I never mentioned that anywhere is safe, being it anywhere, but i'm talking about security or protection by law. For instance, an Irish man dare not use racist word against you for fear of being prosecuted, where as, in some countries like Estonia, "you'd consider yourself fortunate if somebody says to your face "Go home nigger" or calls you "makaka" because, the same person could have shot or stabbed you and ran away". |
@ Sly, you're one other person i like reading his posts, your comments have always been mature and reasonable. I respect you, man. |
@Poster. Thank you for the info, i really do appreciate your time for sharing a first hand information. But (apart from fraud or scam issues), you didn't make any mention of the social activities of our people there; i believe many of us would like to hear more, especially the methods of "hustle" that they carry out to survive in Spain. Thanks. |
A European friend and colleague of mine referred me to this site bellow: infact, i once had a conversation with this Italian mate: "Why is the media usually saying negative or bad things about Nigeria (Africa), don't you guys have anything good to say?", i asked. The guy simply replied, "I'm afraid, i know NOTHING good to say about Nigeria (Africa)" "Nothing at all", i questioned. "Absolutely Nothing" he insisted. "OK, tell me one good thing about Nigeria (Africa) just ONE" He demanded. I thought for a while, i just couldn't imagine anything "good" about Nigeria (Africa), the few (if any) thing that i'd consider good in Nigeria are the things in which western countries excel at. Though it hurts, but i can see reasons with them for saying negative things about Nigeria. [flash=550,400] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZVVbGEOoCM[/flash] Please, we're in a democratic society, therefore i implore you to see this as a debate rather than confrontation, with the understanding that everyone is entitled to his/her opinions, in other word; there shouldn't be any personal insult on anyone who sees things different from the way you see them. So guys, let someone answer the Italian guy's question, can someone actually tell me one, and i mean ONE good thing about Nigeria? LET'S GO!!!!! state one good thing please. . . |
I believe in freedom, and i believe that people are entitled to their own perspective and be given the right of chance to express their opinions on any given matter. Contrary to this, it would be interpreted as an unjust behaviour to the sensibility of some individuals. I am aware that this forum is privately owned, therefore i understand that the moderator reserves every right to do or undo whatever he pleases unquestionable. but however, given that the Nairaland forum is an internet one, he ought to acknowledge that it is an internation media and therefore, it should be treated as one; ie allowing the freedom of expression to be exercised in it. I am hereby using this means to suggest that Mr. Seun (the moderator) ought to releases a thread (which he has locked in his own authority) so that people may freely say their opinions in it. . . the thread is located in the address below: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-122027.0.html What's your opinion about my request, i mean who is in support of the thread being realeased and who's against it? Please, no insult or bashing words, just say your minds as your opinions will be appreciated. you may give your vote at the poll above. Remember, MAJORITY WINS THE VOTE. |
Too many pieces of "advice" might leave you confused. By the way, when are you or your "friend" due to make the decision? As for me, i'd say both options are good, depending on your motives and your situations which no one knows better than yourself: Even, i can see that your advisers have split suggestions on the issue, that means, whether you take the bank job or you proceed to the UK, in either way, you can utilise your opportunity for an enviable career. So, it's up to you. |
4Him:@ 4Him, with guys like You, Sly, EloSela, "figurehead" 4 Play, debosky and the host of other wise and realistic individuals, i am covered and don't have to care about the personal insults on me by "visa experts". Thank you bros/sis, talk to you later. |
pahtahkee:We're not doing English course here, and it's got nothing to do with my profession; medicine has got sufficient complicated language of it's own that one (in the field) is less bothered about brighter grammar. But as a student of English literature and the number one proof-reader in Nairaland, how come you didn't realise that the word "opportuned" does not exist, and you used it? Don't disappoint me, mrpataki. |
Fela Kuti (RIP) whom we held in high esteem never in any of his tracks said anything good about Nigeria, in fact, he was labelled a dedicated trouble maker in Nigeria, yet. he was the most popular musician in the country. I care about Nigerians, i have helped a lot of people in many ways that i could, both in Nigeria and abroad, i love helping and corresponding with people, but still, the fact remains that Nigeria as a nation is not impressive: so, if anyone has problem with this fact, it's up to him. |
pahtahkee:If you'd lost a fortune or loved ones to armed rubbers, if you've been a victim of Police brutality, if you've suffered the system injustice, if you've been attacked by area guys, if your car had been bumped by another car that had no insurance, if you've had to pay money to bail your loved ones, if you've sat in a bus and had to wait for it to be filled before departure, if you've spent nine hours (due to bad road) on a journey that would normally take 3 hours, if you ever had struggle physically to get anything, if you've suffered TB and resorted to taking self-made "medicine" because you couldn't afford medication, if you've ever feared to prosecute a "big man" because the case might be turned against you by money power, if you ever had to use mosquito coil because you can't afford insecticide, if you've ever almost had an accident on a motto-bike used as taxi, if you've had a person dying of Kidney malfunction and you've had to deposit money before dialysis, if you've ever resorted to drilling boreholes in compounds to get watter, if you've ever been in a location where electric plants and generators noises prevail, if you've ever had a right-of-way fight with a licence "driver" who never attended driving school, if you've ever been in a situation where you can't wear your favourite white shoes shoes because of dust, if you've been in a location where vehicle horns are what woke you up every day, if you've had a situation whereby you have to raise your fence higher than the house for "security" reason, if you've ever been in a situation where you needed an emergency responds team, but they were just not there for you, if you've ever been an out cast as a little child because you were labelled a witch, if. . , if. . ; you will not be here saying this. I thought i explained to you the reason i didn't entertain nalijah07's request initially: "You see, westerners usually ask questions about Nigeria (Africa in General) with negative curiosity: in most cases, they are correct in their opinions, but yet (though Nigeria is not an impressive country) nobody appreciates being insulted because s/he is from Nigeria. Nigeria (i know) is not an impressive country. That's it". Therefore, you got to understand the difference between fair criticism (on Nigeria) and insulting the people because (because they are Nigerians). My posts were were edited and "modified" to achieve their objectives, they are not directed to any individual, not even you, therefore i won't appreciate being insulted for it. [quote][/quote] |
[quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=122027.msg2098138#msg2098138 date=1206634197]Whats TKO?? ?? ?? However. . .Ma conclusion is that the white guy was absolutely right. . ![]() With all the sweats here. . . you guys are yet to tell me just one good thing about Naija!! What a country!!! [/quote]T[/b]echnical [b]K[/b]nock [b]O[/b]ut.londoner:.Before talking "about what needs to change" in Nigeria, we need to acknowledge the fact that Everything needs changes because there's nothing good in that country, not even ONE, or are you still saying that there is ONE GOOD THING? |
londoner:Not seeing positive things in Nigeria doesn't mean one should run away from anything Nigerian, and not saying anything about the negative things in Nigeria reminds me of Fela's "Suffering And Smiling" track. My friend, the negative or evil things in Nigeria are too extreme and deserve more than just our attentions. [quote author=®~^Sly^~® link=topic=122027.msg2097743#msg2097743 date=1206628646]. . .the only sensible argument i have had was with Danity. . She got a li.l point but with too many ""buts. .ifs and maybes. .her point was dishonored and dismissed!! [/quote]Yes, perhaps you see that as the only sensible argument that you've had because, you enjoyed a TKO victory ![]() |
londoner:The same reason or curiosity that brings westerners to Nigerian sites, i suppose. |
ty4real:Perhaps it will interest you to know that even Snoop Doggy was refused a UK visa: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/entertainment/tm_headline=p-diddy-and-snoop-cancel-scottish-gig&method=full&objectid=18817668&siteid=66633-name_page.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/mar/28/musicnews.music |
EloSela:Nigerians!!! I'm just Laughing Out Loud LOL |
danity:Hey, what good whether is there to enjoy when the environments and air are polluted with dust and carbon monoxide smokes from scary vehicles and electric plants and generators? What beautiful trees are there in a forrest that is a nightmare to dare? To what benefit is the rain when there is no drainage to channel the erosion? How does the rain benefit the poor market women and children who barely earn a living by street trading? Well, i'm surprised that you are even talking about nature as the good thing in Nigeria, what about human achievements? Answer me Now, i'm still waiting for someone to say one, and i mean ONE "good" thing about Nigeria? |
EloSela:Wise talk, EloSela. Yes, one "good" thing about Nigeria is the system of transportation, ie a bus never departs unless it is full with passangers or load and can barely contain the driver: no departure or arrival time. [b] Now, i'm still waiting for someone to say one, and i mean ONE "good" thing about Nigeria? |
Too many pieces of "advice" might leave you confused. By the way, when are you or your "friend" due to make the decision? As for me, i'd say both options are good, depending on your motives and your situations which no one knows better than yourself: Even, i can see that your advisers have split suggestions on the issue, that means, whether you take the bank job or you proceed to the UK, in either way, you can utilise your opportunity for an enviable career. So, it's up to you. |
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, that's why I said weather, at least the topic asked for just one thing 
. . .lets not decieve ourselves here!!!
