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chachanga:
OMG, and i saw an Ad for this and thought it was a joke?!!
Guys be making their change any how these days.



Comot there joor! Soon after, you'll adjust the contract to back entry, not front. Or, just wanking no cummins...

Leave me jor.
I need that kind service ASAP.

chachanga:
OMG, and i saw an Ad for this and thought it was a joke?!!
Guys be making their change any how these days.



Comot there joor! Soon after, you'll adjust the contract to back entry, not front. Or, just wanking no cummins...

Leave me jor.
I need that kind service ASAP.

Explorers:
1. Professional snugglers.


Professional snugglers can actually make up to $60 per hour. While this job kind of sounds a little like prostitution, there is no sex involved, just snuggling. The job description is pretty self-explanatory. Their task is to cuddle with their clients who might be lonely, sad, or just looking for human touch and connection. And while it certainly takes a special person to want to do this job, that special person makes big bucks, up to $124,000, for basically lying around all day long.

Do we have such here in Nigeria, Lagos to be specific. I desperately need this type. Just smooching no sex.
Nice one professor Explorer

Finally this hit front page. Wow!

Awon' Runs girls and oloshos, instead of allowing different pestle to pound your mortal. You can simply try this snuggling, no much risk.

Maamin:
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 [size=16pt]Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.[/size]

@op, how could you sit down and type so much note just to express your disbelieve in God. That is way too much trouble for someone that does not believe in God. Your bitterness toward your creator gives me more reason to believe in him ever more.

You should do too coz sooner or later...!!!

Hmmmm, does that means the devil is using the OP, for writing his views on Original Sin?

johnydon22:
[b]Many here won't deny having grown up being taught that their very humanity itself is a sin.

That their nature as humans have been contaminated by the action of Adam and Eve in Eden and so their very nature as humans is a sin and broken, lost and weak and therefore needs to be saved..

This basic Christian doctrine has created an imaginary problem, have convinced them of bearing the guilt of an imaginary crime by two fictitious people they know nothing about and so must require an imaginary act of salvation in order to make it to an imaginary paradise..

We have been taught that God is the father at the same time taught to fear, cower in awe in the face of this Father figure.

"Father, i am not worthy to be your son, i am broken and weak and is short of your glory but father forgive me and accept me because i have been a sinner since i was born. please father let your will be done in my life, take full possession of me and do with my life what ever you will even though am not worthy"

This is a prayer line used to address a father figure, to this i will call a pitiable show of self degrading other than humility..

And again am sure none of us here will ever have our children talk to us in that format, anyone who expects such mode of address from his Children has a chronic self righteousness, abject narcissism, huge egoism and outright disturbing figure..

People have been convinced that they are a sinner from birth and therefore are not worthy...?

To this i call a complete arrant nonsense...

It is amazing how people cannot find the disturbing idea of a God who bears a grudge for such a long time that it blames every generation for the actions of two people...

The alleged all powerful, all knowing and all present creator of the universe is showing a pitiable insecure childish show of bearing grudges with flimsy humans..

You do not need saving from imaginary angry Gods who is blaming you for the sin of some two naked couple who ate an apple..

You did nothing and you are not guilty of the crime of anybody not even the crimes of your immediate parents.

It is a common thing to have religious people accuse others of being sinners who deserves to be burnt in a fire for their sins.

It is ok to note that SIN in a religious sense has no weight on human morality..

Human morality as a construct of human society entails: An action that decreases individual and social human suffering and betters societal well-being, survival, justice, equality, freedom..

Going by this societal definition of human morality one cannot fail to notice that these actions are necessary for a human society to ensure continuation and a healthy social interactions because as social beings living together in a society we must indulge in mutual actions necessary for our own betterment and continuation.

An immoral act as the opposite of morality is An action that INCREASES individual and societal human suffering and is a detriment to societal well being, justice, equality, survival and freedom..

Going by this definition one cannot miss to discern that Armed Robbery is a societal vice because it increases the suffering of the victim.

Government officials looting a country is a societal vice because it increases the societal suffering of the community.

Boko haram or any group wreaking havoc on a community is a societal vice because it is a detriment to societal well being and increases individual and societal suffering..


But the religious idea of sin are simply actions that goes against the stipulated ethics or doctrines of the said religion or the so called "will of God" that may or may not be in relation to a societal moral action.

E.g: In the catholic Church, Missing Mass on sunday is a sin against God..
In islam eating pork is a sin
And in a wide margin being Human itself is a sin in fundamental Christian doctrine of original sin.
Not believing in God is also a sin

I don't understand how muhammed having sex with a 9 year old Aisha is not a bad thing in Islam or beheading others in the name of God is not wrong but God frowns at what two grown adults decides to do with themselves or what i eat..

So you see, these ideas of sin has no weight on the moral tilt of an action, it doesn't matter if your actions are of a good tilt or not you are a sinner none- the less.

So do not fret when accused of being a sinner as long as your actions are of no detrimental effect to others or the society...

This is the exact question i asked a preacher girl who accused me of being a sinner when she learnt i don't believe the God she believes..

"Am i a sinner because i don't live a moral and ethical life or because i don't believe the God you believe ?"

My actions are for humans not deity and so the effect of my actions on fellow humans and the society is all that matters to me not whether a deity likes it or not..

when we realize that an action is neither good or bad just because a religion says so either with the charge of "Thus says the lord" or not, we will learn to employ our reason and independent thinking in determining our actions towards each other..

-We are neither fallen or weak

-Our humanity is not a crime or sin

-we are not to be blamed for the actions of some fictitious couple who ate an apple.

-We have no need to be saved from angry deities who won't mind their business, we are the only ones who can offer ourselves and our children salvation by choosing to better the planet we live in.

-And most importantly we do not need forgiveness from angry Gods, we only need forgiveness from each other..

Live your life for you and your actions in respect to others around you and the society that binds us all and not an obligation to a God or religion or a means to an end to bypass punishment or get a reward..

Nobody is born a sinner or inherited the sin of Adam and eve and it's time people realized that..
[/b]

What an empirical epistle. Oga johnydon22, you want make pastors close Church?. Lol

kelvinclint:
.Girls need to be taught to see beyond marriage.
.
An average Nigerian girl, or say African girls in a broader scope wants to grow up, finish school and just get married. Nothing limits a woman as much as this. A man plans his life thus-
.
"grow up, MAKE MONEY,
raise a family".
.
A girl plans hers like-
.
"grow up, finish school, get
married".
.
Girls are not taught to dream
independently, they think
their final destination is in a
man's home. The "better
tomorrow" they are taught to
dream of is a tomorrow
inside their husband's home.
No! It's wrong. You need to
first carve a life for yourself
before you put yourself in
the control of a man.
.
Girls are taught To dream to
be Queens. Meaning they are
taught that no matter how
high they fly they still have
to be under a man, her
king.... When they could
actually be Kings themselves.
.
You might say getting
married doesn't stop you
from winning, but that's false.
Marriage creates a lot of
limitation for women...
Socially, economically, even
psychologically. Women are
home makers. A woman's
primary concern is building a
home. When you finish school
and you get married almost
immediately, childbirth,
domestic duties, etc will limit
your hustle. You are gonna
live your life in the shadow
of your husband. You are
gonna be just another
puppet in the hands of your
husband.
.
Some women even become
housewives, like you live all
your life under the sole
control of a man? From being
under your dad straight to
being under a man.... How do
you live with that?
.
Women need to be taught to
dream. They need to be
taught they are also an
independent being, and they
also need to carve out a life
for themselves.
.
African parents need to stop
putting pressure on their
female children to get
married immediately after
school. Teach them to strive
like they are the ones going
to raise a family on their
own. Boys are brought up to
strive, to create a Kingdom,
why can't women be taught to
be same?
.
Women and men will never
ever be equal if women are
trained to see their ultimate
end in the comfort of
marriage. Take your time,
how can you be just 23 and
you are already feeling ripe
to marry? What have you
achieved? Will you die if you
don't get married quickly?
.
Girls need to focus more on
personal development after
school. Life starts after
school... Try to make a living
for yourself. Girls need to
stop being pressured to
marry too quickly! They are
not men's properties!
.
Y'all need a new mindset
Africans.

My brother maybe this epistles is meant for an average low self esteemed lady or rather village girls. Last time I checked my Boss wife have nothing before she married him, but with the support and love my boss had for her. She bore children and also focused on her carrier. Now she have established a clinic.

A man's primary lots is his career while that of a woman's primary lot is marriage. Even feminist wishes to be with a man, if not for their baseless pride. Thanks

Happy Birthday Mr Johnydon22 .even though I am a Christian, I still respect how you always seem to be so Real in everything you say.

ITbomb:
The only advice I would give you is what Nigerian Breweries gave me, "Drink Responsibly". Whether beer is good or bad but if you abuse it, it abuses you.

I am one of the few who were brought up by knowledge seeking, bible researching peeps (not just the religious type) and I was made to understand that sex before marriage is a fallacy, the truth is that SEX IS MARRIAGE, the other occasion where the family meet is just to honor it. If someone says that church wedding is marriage then our fathers never married but we know that the Word of God stands for ever.

For instance, when Jesus met the woman of Samaritan by the well side, he didn't say that she slept with 5 men, he said she is married to 5 men
In Genesis 24:67, it was only when Isaac brought her into his tent and "TOOK HER" that she became his wife, Catholic call it consummation of marriage but believe me, that is the real marriage.
On judgement day, you will not be asked how many times you have done fornication but the question would be "how many times you have married and shared your vessel with another and on what intent"

The relation to your case is this, if you want to be with anyone, let it be for a genuine intent of love and procreation, also let it, as much as possible, be honored by both parents. THAT IS "BEING RESPONSIBLE" that is the eternal essence of sex, anything else just for lust or to fulfill your selfish desires is irresponsible and technically "sin"

That is my personal position on the issue of sex, I don't preach it to anyone or try to convince anyone, it is my personal conviction and grace

Wow!!! nice write-up.
From this I can decipher that it is about being responsible or irresponsible.

Tallesty1:
Things change, people change but what is wrong can never become right, even if the whole world is doing it.


It was, and they had prostitutes then, just like we do today but the reason it seems like the drive is higher now is because there's indecency in almost everything you look at.

From the books you read, movies you watch to the people you see on the streets.

And many modern day parents do not know their calling.
My point exactly. Satan is fighting Christians with any tool it can lay hands on.

If pre-marital sex was wrong 100 years ago then believe you me it still is.....

Your partner mustn't be a v.

Jesus ensure you have a healthy relationship with Christ and everything will automatically fall in place.

The last point though,

one must agree that is sad, knowing fully well that after maintaining and striving so hard with prayers , hardwork, tolerance et al to practice abstinence at the long run the other half have tasted it several times.
God help us.

You are in your mid twenties, just few more years and all
these will end and the woman you will marry shall respect
you 4 it.

@ Tallesty1, the last point really got into my heart.
But I think one can't compare the lifestyle of our grandparents to this our contemporary clime, because I think there is a huge difference between the Orientation Factor. Then premarital sex was highly discouraged and I believe the drive isn't that high as compared to this modern times.
Now, sex is just so cheap, social media encourages lewd images, seductive dress are ubiquitous. If at 20 one has not tasted it peer groups mock and sight them as weakling etc.
You made mention of seeking for a partner that abstained, but to be realistic,we all know that they are so scare and rare to come across.
May God see us through.

Debeloved87:
by your mindset... What is not right is wrong. Simple

Hmmmm what a point, a subjective one. So therefore it's all about one's mindset No wonder johnydon22 said "many people are worshipping their fears".

1.As a lady you use wig for 4 months, it's a sign of poverty
2.You say you prefer trekking to entering danfo or Okada, it's a sign of poverty
3.You take coffee just to stay awake to make free night calls, my guy it is a sign of poverty.
4 . You cook, you don't put meat, and whenever your friends ask you why, you say you are a vegetarian, but if you go to wedding you eat meat. My brother, it is a sign of poverty.
5.You have one special aboki shoemaker that always come every two weeks to repair your shoe, my brother na sign of poverty ooo

johnydon22 that was mind blowing. Thanks for the assertions. Am still thinking

Debeloved87:
Proper orientation?

Go get a wife.. Or abstain till you get one


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How did you abstained?

Good day all,
I just need sound logical opinions and assertions on this issue.

I am in my mid-20s.

When I was a teenager, I attended lots of religious classes and programs. I got fixated with doctrines and dogmas of the Church.
But amongst all, the one that touched me most, is the part that that dissuade premarital sex and buttressed on how obnoxious it is to GOD. "Mind you, I so much believe in God".
Sermons of how people that have fornicates or is fornicating will burn in hell have struck me to a point that I dread Sex.
Well, the abstinence is not really a problem, but how long should an average man wait especially in this kind of economic and secularism one find himself in?
If premarital sex needs to be frowned at, then why the urge and libido. As a teenager, I used to think it was the work of the devil whenever the conji factor appears in me, lol. Albeit, how can one suppress or sublime this urge and for how long?
Moreover, If what was postulated by Apostle Paul is real in the book of 1st corinthians , then Is it that every entity that have indulged in sex before marriage is going to hell or be ruined?

So many people with an idealistic subjective views will say "why not you go and marry?" Then I say, should one marry because of sex?
To all the team "no sex before marriage", I would like to know how come you suppressed your libido while others can't.
Disclaimer: I am not encouraging the act of premarital sex, but I just need proper Orientation on it.
Thanks all.





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PrinceEvolution:
oh boy na money and awoof enjoyment and competition na it be the oda of the day now for dem..,those days gals dey beg too cook for guy,now try reason market first ..u go hear u don marry me?is either fast food or high class Iya Bashira..then after d reggae play the blues ..lol

Hahahahahahahaha. Na so ooo. That's is why we gats to dey give them OT.

PrinceEvolution:
nja don cast now all our girls get belle and swollen lower abdomen dat turns me off...na toto full street now joor..not enou smart looking shawties again,is almost like looking for a needle in hay stack...I get turned off seeing those queen bees or some of em looking like wasps.huh..imagine abt 9pm she go order pondo yam still fire like 4 bottles of harp..no exercise no digestion of to bed without shower or bath...later she go dey use juju find boyfriend..God save us from ourselves ...

Lol, Bros you really know how e dey go.
And whenever you administer any exercise or workout programme for them na so dem go dey do face like small pikin wey wan kollect injection.

TonyeBarcanista:
It's like you don't understand the main problem. Saudi Arabia has been pumping more into the market, this means excess supply. USA and Australia that were hitherto our customers are now our competitors in the market. Iran is resuming pumping more in 2016. The oil price crash is following a natural order.

This is scary.

Why is everything just going down na? God help us.

Same should be done for women. Abi na only man get big Belle?

I need God to revamp my mind. Non believers have influenced my soul.

johnydon22:
so searching for God means reading about hell, affirms the fact that the basis of your beliefs is Fear and not necessarily faith.

Fear of an angry God that will burn you in case you don't believe..

Quite on the contrary such concept rubbishes the concept of god to any sane mind, it betrays a childish, egocentric, barbaric, insecure, vengeful,narcissistic, sadistic and childish anger issues in a supposed supreme being that should be above such flaws.

Such huge character flaws betrays chronic insecurities of such concepts that banks on torture to coerce feeble minds.

Such character flaws heaped on such concepts makes anything but one iota of sense

Or rather you should be laughing at your own sheepish gullibility and vulnerability in reverence of abstract concepts that are nothing more than figments of your own fears and imaginations ..

Your gullibility and superstitious mindset is your cup of tea

Bros you dey vex ooo!!!! I believe in God but skeptical about the concept of hell. But for sure God will punish the wicked

This is awesome.

Girl wey pretty and fine join, no dey get time to create this kind of thread. She even get mind to attack nairaland guys, she never see anything

Lightskin girls likes him while dark-skinned girls dislikes him.

I love this logical debate between the believers and unbelievers. Am really learning

I just humbly hope our eyes shall be opened to see the real truth

Timoleon:
If God can put two unmarried people in the garden and command them to multiply...whats my excuse for waiting for a priest before i can fvck?

Different Personalities with dynamic mindset are much in nairaland. Lolzzzzzzzz

Hard truth. God help youths like me

Raayah, your types are rare. You are just so gbaaski.

JESUS help me