₦airaland Forum

Boss13:
SirJohn has the fake pastor Joagbaje paid his debt??

Image123:
There are better and more important need to know than half truths and trip questions. There remains NO benefit from not tithing.

Gombs:
Bro, tithe in it self means a tenth. Malachi was directed to 22% ers? Really?



Dear Lord Jesus!



A pastor, your shepherd.


No time for frivolities bro.



Your opinion is noted.



No thanks!



Trustman, you have sought my attention and it's becoming worrisome. Ok, let's demonstrate humility here, was circumcision as you said for ISRAEL AND ISRAEL only? Was that notion correct? If yes, how? If no, were you humble enough to admit?

Image123:
You still managed not to answer the questions, how did that happen? Even Mark the original recipient has been very shy.
If Melchisedek received tithe 'without commandment', what hinders others?
Are we under commandment (the law).?

esere826:
The preacher says



It's like saying that because an armed robber looked a certain way, anyone who has such looks is an armed robber

uhmmm
as a minimum, this bit is certainly not sound reasoning.

WinsomeX:
I agree with shdemidemi that if anyone disagrees with any conclusion by any of the presenters of the conference, they should simply provide scriptural counters to them. When people have provided specific statements on issues in theology it always right to provide specific statements if we want to counter their position.

shdemidemi:
If you read thoroughly enough, you will not only realise the reason for the conference, you will also realise how these men have meticulously put all your extral spiritual activities and beliefs to the tip.


Don't be surprised if I ignore you from hereforth, you have nothing to add to me but to waste my time on 'old wives' like bickering.

shdemidemi:
All you want to do is argue(blindly). I urge you to put that energy to studying the OP and come up with rebuttals if need be. I agree with the Op, do you? If no, state reasons why through scriptures. I [b]believe [/b]that is a better route to arrive at biblical truth.

Gombs:
Care to explain why tithinhy is unscriptural and dishonest?

So, tithing is now a doctrine?

Do you have a pastor? As in, do you have a spiritual father? By spiritual father, I don't mean God.

Outta discuss. This scripture is not relevant here.

Why haven't you studied the ones youve been given, not in defense mode, but to seek the truth out of them?

I can also give you web links too...alot of them too

shdemidemi:
GREAT THREAD....

I am in complete agreement with the cessationist view point as it presents the scripture from a more objective perspective.

Unibenstudent:
what church do u attend Mr man?

Unibenstudent:
life is too short to read that article to the last letter anyway, I and my future wife will serve Yahweh and yeshua regardless of peoples opinion and I will continue to preach yeshua,so that on the last day when I am been asked what I did for Christ ,I will say I preached a 100% correct gospel to Nigerians,,

WinsomeX:
Thank you Bidam for this question and it has been well answered by vooks, although the answer will be further taught by the 18 presentations in the conference.

Let me state clearly from the start that the presenters at this conference call themselves CESSATIONIST. Cessationism is a veiw of scriptures that considers the offices of an apostles and a prophet, along with the gifts that the operated to have ceased after the canon of scriptures was completed. This views comes a doctrine that teaches The Sufficiency of Scriptures. They argue that to have apostles and prophets, whose messages can be validated with signs and wonders is to consider the bible insufficient. That is, we are saying the bible is not complete and God is saying things, new things, outside the things he had already said in the bible. They believe that such is the root of all errors in the body of Christ today, and the best way to guard against this is to hold a cessationist biblical view. Gifts of the Spirit cessationist believe no longer exist today are tongues, prophecy, hearing words from God, signs and wonders. Cessationists however believe that God can work a miracle today for his purpose and in his sovereignity but they insist miracles are not being wrought at the large scale that the apostles did. The whole conference was their views on these.

The cessationist criticised all charismatic groups including Catholics, Pentecostals, white garment and a group they call CONTINUTIONISTS. These group of evangelicals believe basically the same doctrine with cessationist, they are however careful not to insist certain gift have ceased. They believe Charismatics should be given some hearing. So the cessationist came dosn heavy on some continuitionists like John Piper and Grudem.

I am presenting these views here for our perusal, learning and discussions.

lastmessenger:
Somebody just have to believe me. That guy Alfa is wicked but he will be defeated.I am strong now cos I have the whole weapons to fight him.

Unibenstudent:
I ensured I disaffiliate myself from my
childhood churc called catholic! I made him
proud! And now I am on nairaland to
preach Christ the hope of salvation!

Unibenstudent:
I ensured I disaffiliate myself from my childhood churc called catholic! I made him proud! And now I am on nairaland to preach Christ the hope of salvation!

Unibenstudent:
so don't u think Yahweh will be happy u are preaching his name,,
Hosea 2:17
New International Version
I will remove the names of the Baals from
her lips; no longer will their names be
invoked.
From wikipedia
Baal=, also rendered Baʿal (Biblical Hebrew
בַּעַל, pronounced [ˈbaʕal]), is a North-West
Semitic title and honorific meaning
"master" or "lord"[1] that is used for various
gods who were patrons of cities in the
Levant and Asia Minor, cognate to Akkadian
Bēlu. A Baalist or Baalite means a
worshipper of Baal.
Baal =The lord

Unibenstudent:
wow are u not sad that as old as u are u don't know the name of who u are serving?

Unibenstudent:
ok ,is now u are making small sense,so how do u relate with ur God?

Unibenstudent:
so u have no idea of the name of ur God now?

Unibenstudent:
my sect will be with anybody who acknowledges that Yahweh is his el shaddai(god Almighty) and yeshua is the only begotten son of Yahweh,,and who can encourage me to live a life like yeshua!!!

Unibenstudent:
nearest in meaning to yhwh
A)Yahweh B)The lord C)Jehovah D)yahuwah

Unibenstudent:
I am not from a sect ,I just don't wanna be with the crowd!

Unibenstudent:
all this guess work are 100 % better than calling him THE LORD ,ThE LORD means baal

Unibenstudent:
Roman catholics and Constantine who inspired the compilation of bible all had a satanic agenda,,which I will discuss as time goes by,(hope u know dark ages sha) anyway satan is not a sleeping dog ,but a lion so he doesn't sleep!!so he inspired to corruption of the name yeshua to Jesus,,that's y today there is no respect for the name jesus,,when someone is cursing he will like " Jesus !!David are u mad ,or if he wants to sneeze ,he will say Jesus !,there is little or no regard for the name Jesus,even Satanists can call d name Jesus!! So my brother wake up from slumber because tthe next time to u profess Jesus ,u profess the anti Christ!!

Gombs:
vooks,folks who tithe were taught how to and why, this is a far cry fry what anti tither do. they want tithing to stop being taught.

Unibenstudent:
according to jospephus the famous Jewish historian who reigned in days of yeshua he says that the high priests wore the sacrad tetragrammation on their head and it was YHWH do u need wisdon to pronounce this? And its not Jehovah becuz letter j is a new letter in English!!

Unibenstudent:
when yeshua was on earth he was criticised and beating and killed,why will I be surprised at ur comments,so why is that u have so much evidence to prove that yeshua is d only name of Jesus but maybe immanuel is a better substitute as name not Jesus ,,pls !

Unibenstudent:
we all agree that the web is that largest gathering in the world now,so also the people who gather ,gather on net,,browse the net on yeshua
www.jewishvoice.org/who-is-yeshua/
Other sites are still available
Work out ur salvation with. Fear and trembling and not with vain glorying!

Bidam:
Ok, The truth is when the Holy Ghost presence is evidence in a meeting anything can happen, there is a big diff between magic and a miracle. I read a book on Kathryn kulman who confessed she can't do anything without the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit that helps us to preach the gospel. The problem arise when you try to manufacture the anointing with the mindset that the way He came yesterday should be the same way He is going to operate today and that way what Hagin tried correcting in his days. He said whenever the gifts of the Spirit is not in manifestation, he just teach the people the word of God. Ministers fall into error whenever they try to manufacture gifts and that's how familiar spirits come in.

Unibenstudent:
I believe u prefer the documentions by oyedepo and adeboye and oyakhilome who are robbing the masses and having billions in their accounts is those people documentation u love?