₦airaland Forum

Bidam:
Since it is a public forum i also don't see anything wrong in barging into conversation between vooks and kenya and also reminding them to speak english and not turn it into a tribal discussion.

And i still repeat incase your disease has not left you that i responded to the post on circumcision and freewill animal offering case you made against tithes not on the reducto...shit you gave gombs..Kindly go back and read again.

I don't need to point them out. Your arrogance against mbaemaka,shdemidemi,Gombs and image and i is clear for all and sundry to see.

i respond to free viewers and your ignorant disciples.

Like i said dumb head, i was never interested in reducto...a simple going back to check my earlier posts would ease your trolling itchiness.

PastorKun:
With regards to the bolded, it means you are not conversant with the level of brainwashing going on in these cults. Borrowing money to give as offering is encouraged and taught in these cults. They see it as a investment and not mere offerings as you call it and they sincerely believe they would get at least a hundred fold return. That aside the IPPC is designed to stimulate competitive giving to Oyak's purse. Top givers are also given much coveted awards at IPPC so the average cec mugu would do anything to win this award coupled with the ego trip of being one of cec top givers. Borrowing is actually the most decent thing they do to meet up. Some of them go to unspeakable extremes just to meet up.

Bidam:
ofcos coming from someone with a background of lack respect regards for mothers amnot surprised.what has this discussion got to do with mothers your mother is my mother not by birth but by responsibility.this was how u attacked image calling him feminine names. I stand by my words.*as far as scriptures is concerned.you are a mumu.Go study

2cato:
Are you people sure of all these things you are posting

sonOfLucifer:
You are all Lucifer made you to be. We are all his children.

mbaemeka:
Doctrine, is it in the bible? Does it work? Do people apply it to their lives? Do people believe it? This has nothing to do with Mormons, JWs or Muslims.

Bidam:
Do you have anything to hide. Why are you acting out the hypocritical script? Yet you have the nerve to comment on threads that have nothing to do with payment of 500k abi?

You asked whether the word bible is in the bible and i answered whether the word supernatural and trinity is there? And if i say you need to take your medication before logging in here, you will tell me it's unchristian.Do you see what i am saying? I was never interested in your reducto...or whatever crap you called it to start with.

I pray you will take this piece of advice of yours cos on the last count you are the guy bossing folks posts with arrogant pomp and pageantry even when ignorant of the subject matter.

Hehehehe.you have not indeed.i laff in kenyan tongues.

Your case and arguments is actually fit for the toilet latrines. It has been debunked on countless number of ocassions.

You are nothing but an ignorant hypocrite who doesn't have time to study his bible but parade his gigantic ignorance from one forum to another. The question is does Melchizedek receives tithes? Yes or No?

Bidam:
What i am saying is that we have over 300 tribes in Nigeria yet nobody flaunts it here since it is a public forum. To avoid confusing and misleading folks here, let's use a common language which is english for proper dissemination of information. If you are a christian, there is no jew, greek nor gentile in Christ. I am first and foremost a christian not a nigerian.God bless you do so.

mbaemeka:
I am sure you missed the why numbers are important SOMETIMES part of my post.[size=2pt] The word of God never said if you preached the right gospel you would have few people around. So when people consistently preach what they delude themselves to believe is the right gospel and also claim that to be the reason they are few in number you can as well point them out to your own numbers and show them why they might infact be false. It is similar to those who call themselves Pastors or Apostles yet they are bereft of the credentials of that office and when they see someone else who oozes out the said credentials they begin misquoting scriptures to explain away their faithlessness.

In 2 Corinthians 12:12 Paul said there were signs to follow an Apostle. If I see anyone who claims to be an Apostle yet lacks those signs I can know the office is only Titular I.e such a person was not sent- they just went. Now if on the other hand I am labelled false and I go forth to defend my ministry or calling by listing out the signs that were wrought by my hands you would be amiss to start mentioning Chris Angel or Derren Brown to me, and insisting that non-Christians wrought 'miracles' as well. I am sure false Apostles in Paul's day still wrought some form of miracles but he didn't take it into consideration in penning the afore cited verse. So let's get the full gist.

Also, I don't remember saying that miracles were or not the major reason people are drawn to the gospel. I myself was in need of no miracle when I stumbled into a CE church or when I found a book by Kenneth E Hagin. In fact, I was already born again before I encountered any of the above but was in search of a deeper connection with God and I found it- praise the Lord.

In 1 Samuel 22:2 the men who came to join David were in Distress, Debt and Discontented- all 400 of them. If you dig deeper into 2 Samuel and I believe Chronicles the bible later described them as David's Mighty Men and they gave a lot to the building of the Temple. They were no longer what they were before they met him and if you consider that David wasn't yet the actual king you would learn to appreciate their testimony a lot better. The point is that if people come to listen to your own right gospel it ought to change and benefit them not only in the world to come but in the present. And when it does, more and more people will be added to them. It is only logical. The cripple who met Paul at Lystra listened intently to Paul's gospel and from it he developed a faith to be healed. Yet you have self-styled true gospelers who claim the 'health gospel' is false and brand those who preach it anathema. You tell me if they have God's backing.

So the numbers will eventually show your progress and you or no one else can refute this incontrovertible fact. There is no problem with starting small. Jesus did. But 2 became 4 became 12. And it kept rising from 70 to 120 to 500, 3000 etc. The Samaritan woman that met Jesus went to tell her whole neighbourhood to come and listen to him. Same things happened with all his disciples and I guess we all agree that they were all 'true gospelers'.

Now be kind enough to tell those who claim to be true gospelers without all the necessary signs. Nobody is added to their ilk, nobody is blessed by their messages, no one is healed, enlightened, empowered. No one is unburdened. No one has true faith. What we see is a group of people who claim that faith is mentally assenting to an idea like I mentally assent to the idea that dieting is good yet my eating habits and stomach show that I do not have faith in dieting. For according to the bible, if I did have faith in dieting I would have been talking and ACTING like it is true by putting it to practice.

So yes, the numbers we are talking about is in relation to the body of Christ and not just individual numbers. You have to remember that all the names you mentioned have been termed vipers and what not. Kenneth Hagin, Chris Oyakhilome, Adeboye, Oyedepo etc etc are all fake and false for acting like the bible is true by putting the name of Jesus to use and preaching about the totality of the gospel I.e righteousness, health, wealth etc with the results and numbers to show. Just tell these true gospelers to show us the way and how it should be done. Let them stop complaining about the darkness. They should simply show us the light[/size]!

Bidam:
Yet your insensitive mind didn't tell you also that you shouldn't insult others by calling them kids and infantile stupidity just because they do not agree with you on certain christian doctrines abi? You can start by desisting from mocking those who tithe, then we will be even.SMH!

Bidam:
Neither is it yours nor does it remove your salvation if you have any symptoms of it.Now back to topic.

Bidam:
Hehehehe..a hopeless case of schizophrenia..he is now telling us tithing is salvation.

Kenyan28:
Asante sana, jioni njema.
Wachana na huyo fala hapo chini, shida yake haelewi.
What tribe is he talking about? We have 42 tribes in Kenya.

Bidam:
Ok anytime you have taken your medication you can log in to attempt my earlier rejoinder to your question as a reasonable man.

Bidam:
keep your anger in check, cos you are the guy displaying the intense mutation of infantile stupidity as i see it now.

Bidam:
Do u still need the risperdal? Try to log out and take some.

dorox:
They reason like this. Givers never lack. Her financial difficulties stems from her refusal to continue giving.

Bidam:
Ok, i never knew you to be a religious bigot after being tribalistic.

Bidam:
Not interested, do you need your medication?

Bidam:
I should be asking you that question

Bidam:
Did he collect tithes?

Bidam:
Did he collect tithes?

Bidam:
Carry your tribalism elswhere this is a nigerian forum

Bidam:
Am not interested in your cynical insults neither am i interested in your freewill animal offerings or circumcision circular arguments. The fact that Melchizedek did not collect any of the listed is gud enough for me.

Kenyan28:
Vooks kumbe wewe ni wetu huku Kenya?
Wacha tu hawa watu wana vituko mob.
Niliona kwa group ingine ya FB, eti "if you think the devil is a liar, then you have not met a Nigerian man" Gosh, hope hawataniletea drama na video!
Ntakusambazia kabisa, wacha nione huyu Joe kama atazitoa kwanza.

Adhuhuri njema ndugu yangu!

PastorKun:
In the bid to raise this money to satisfy pastor chris's greed and massage his already over inflated ego, some cec members like pastor Dolapo oni would go and take bank loans to sow, some will defraud their companies, some would steal, some would turn to prostitution, some would neglect their family needs and responsibilities just to sow into the life of this fraudster who has brainwashed them into thinking God would bless them for sowing into his life.

Kenyan28:
Wah! Wah! that's language is called sheng in my country.

Nishaa mshow mara mob atumie Sir John dough zake 500k ndio anigawie zangu niende zangu! lol

mabell:
@ joagbaje


I forgot to add ....i wish you many more nairaland battles ahead.

Kenyan28:
I wish Pastor Joe Agbaje a happy birthday today.

Many more returns of the day.

Bidam:
Yeah, just like the word trinity and supernatural, try anoda yarn.