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Bidam:
coveting what?

Bidam:
I am interested in a verse of scripture not grammer. Am i to assume you cannot quote the verse i asked?

WinsomeX:
Somebody showed us the video once. I am sure you can find it on YouTube

MaziOmenuko:
Like tpia rightly asked; where the other people on the plane invisible? From what you're trying to write, God took him away; did God lump together every person he wished to take away at that particular time and then allow the plane to crash so he can 'rapture' them?

Just need some clarification on that.

Bidam:
Was Malachi written for you? Since you agree all scripture was inspired by the Holy Ghost.

Bidam:
Ok, sorry about that. back to topic, do you believe prophet malachi was inspired by the Holy Spirit?

Bidam:
What kind of joke? about your accident?

Bidam:
Who? that's a laff! am as cool as cucumber, who has an issue with God's tithe? definitely not me.

Bidam:
Ok, keep up with your delusions and dishonesty. I think i have your time this morning.

shdemidemi:
I believe we must acknowledge that God isn't saying he will take all that preach a wrong gospel out of the scene. We will always have the tares among wheat within the body of Christ. Those elements of the evil one who plant a separate, though a look-alike seed(word) to that of God. They will be separated by God on the day of our Lord according to the book.

Mat 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.’”

On the other hand we have those who God had predestined, called, justified and glorified according to His purpose. I believe Munroe to be one of such people. I am in accord with the OP that God took His son- MM from the scene at His own appointed time.

Bidam:
On the contrary i don't. Except you disbelieve that all scripture are not inspired by your Jewish God.

WinsomeX:
2) The devil DID NOT kill MM. God took him. And God always does the right things at the right time. Perhaps, MM’s allotted time on this side of eternity was up and over. A recent development in his ministry sparked off this thought. Although I do not fully understand MM’s theology (because I’ve not studied it closely), but l was gravely concerned when he advocated in a recent sermon that Christians should not preach Jesus, but should instead focus on preaching God’s Kingdom. He actually said Jesus is not the good news. A lot of Christians were alarmed that MM has considerable resources, influence, and clout to advance this evil teaching widely. And because of this erroneous teaching, some believers will begin to preach God’s Kingdom – minus its exalted King.

Bidam:
It is well without your say so. Bless you.

Bidam:
And i ask you what's with the repetition?

emmysoftyou:
what happen next?

Bidam:
Yawn. Like i said since you are deaf, we don't invoke curses on antitithers and non tithers, we use Malachi to teach tithing not that i have heard it in my church anyway. Givings is the least things we teach in church. There are other weightier matters we teach.

Gombs:
Heheheheheh, bobo... I see how far your church has gone, and the impact they make. Yeah, nareow is the way, and only a few find it... noted buddy.

Sir, God knows why tithing is instituted today, and it is so that He'd have meat in His house... if He was against it, are you saying he turned a blind eye to it all these years? He must be waiting for the last day to arrest those Pastors who allowed it in their churches. #Classic

How can you explain how a Nation like the BLW is richer than alot of countries, and they don’t ask any church or foundation for funds, and they go around the world whenever they like, however they like, spreading the gospel of Christ? Monies bro...Prayer is the bedrock...the vehicle is the monies...lots of it. For example, now, there are 1,162 CE churches in India. Aside prayers, we sent tons of Bibles there, tons of ROR, tons of tracts all in different formats. There are 2 Ce Churches in Japan, there is the underground Ce Church in China, and I think 16 in South Korea.

How on earth did you think these happened? Yeah baby! Tithing, Partnership...God opened those windows of heaven, and He sure poured out those blessings.

They just sang the BLW anthem, and boy, I scremed my lungs out with "Believers Love World, building a happier world with love"

Bobo, if you no wan tithe, leave those who want to, whether you like it or not, tithing will NEVER stop. You cannot block the sun with a finger. I'm out.

Partners' conference just entered a higher tempo. Pastor Chris don show stage...bye!

Bonus: Rhapsody of Realities is in 550 languages now, the only book with the most translation in the world second only to the Bible, the world's most read book, second only to the bible, and 105million copies were distributed this year

Abeg, clap for the Holy Spirit, it was not by power or might... yes, I glory in it... in WinsomeX's words "vain glory"

Gombs:
Heheheheheh, bobo... I see how far your church has gone, and the impact they make. Yeah, nareow is the way, and only a few find it... noted buddy.

Sir, God knows why tithing is instituted today, and it is so that He'd have meat in His house... if He was against it, are you saying he turned a blind eye to it all these years? He must be waiting for the last day to arrest those Pastors who allowed it in their churches. #Classic

How can you explain how a Nation like the BLW is richer than alot of countries, and they don’t ask any church or foundation for funds, and they go around the world whenever they like, however they like, spreading the gospel of Christ? Monies bro...Prayer is the bedrock...the vehicle is the monies...lots of it. For example, now, there are 1,162 CE churches in India. Aside prayers, we sent tons of Bibles there, tons of ROR, tons of tracts all in different formats. There are 2 Ce Churches in Japan, there is the underground Ce Church in China, and I think 16 in South Korea.

How on earth did you think these happened? Yeah baby! Tithing, Partnership...God opened those windows of heaven, and He sure poured out those blessings.

They just sang the BLW anthem, and boy, I scremed my lungs out with "Believers Love World, building a happier world with love"

Bobo, if you no wan tithe, leave those who want to, whether you like it or not, tithing will NEVER stop. You cannot block the sun with a finger. I'm out.

Partners' conference just entered a higher tempo. Pastor Chris don show stage...bye!

Bonus: Rhapsody of Realities is in 550 languages now, the only book with the most translation in the world second only to the Bible, the world's most read book, second only to the bible, and 105million copies were distributed this year

Abeg, clap for the Holy Spirit, it was not by power or might... yes, I glory in it... in WinsomeX's words "vain glory"

mbaemeka:
1. This is jumping from pillar to post. I showed you a verse that Paul yanked verbatim from the OT law that was supposed to be done away with yet he made mention of the same promise in the NT. Now you cannot deny that Christ has redeemed us from the curses of the law and instead you endorse it but when I show that the blessings remained intact from the law you say either that that blessing belongs to all Christians or that aspect of the law has been totally done away with yet you cannot show one verse that suggests so. If the first part of your reasoning was right, then Paul didn't need to mention it specially in Ephesians 6 and if the second aspect is right, then Paul was wrong for infusing an OT teaching into the NT. I don't even see how a blessing in Malachi relates to execution for witches when Malachi relates to a blessing like Exodus 20 does too, meanwhile the execution of witches is worthless to the discourse.

2. Cornelius was an Italian who practiced Judaism and from every indication was the first Gentile to become a christian. You made need to study properly in that area to figure out how the extrabiblical idea of a Nicolaus drinking the Holy Spirit loooong before Cornelius came about. That aside, I mentioned Cornelius to say that even though he was a practising Jew who prayed at their prayer times and gave alms as was their custom the scriptures didn't say he gave tithes yet he must have to be that thoroughly dedicated Jew that he was designated to be. Same with Paul during his Judaistic days yet not a single mention of him tithing was made in the NT and you cannot with a straight face claim he never tithed. So it only behooves the scriptures to tell us how that the Jews were instructed to stop tithing because of the NT and you or the scriptures cannot dare say so.

3. As for your last point on the authorship of Hebrews now is not the time and place but if you are leaning towards the bible 'scholars' who shared that erroneous belief that someone else bar Paul wrote that then you do not know the significance of that book. The quality of information therein cannot be possessed by anyone except Paul. This is an aside from the very obvious fact that the style of writing was exactly like Paul's. I think it explains why some of the clear teachings from that book seem lost on you. For instance, your question on using Goats or grain as a Freewill offering is irrelevant because People used such things as a form of legal tender and they could still be used till date. But the aspect about using Bulls and Goats for atonement of sin has been done away with and that very book of Hebrews expressly stated it along with the many other Jewish ordinances and practices yet A chief practice like tithes wasn't mentioned.

Gombs:
Is like asking T.D Jakes whether he stocks his bookshops with Pastor Chris' materials.

Gombs:
Oga, he said everything before Moses law were superceded by the law (how crappy the thought is), now capital punishment, is before the law, hence not swept away with the law by the new covenant. Tell trustman to explain how he concluded that the law superceded everything before it.

As for the colored, nget a dictionary and educate yourself on what capital punishment is, and see whether it matches the crime stated above in contrast to what we have in Genesis.



Ehen, shey Paul used the OT to teach and indoctrinate the churches, abi?
Oga, ask Trustman to explain how he then concluded the NT supercedes ANYTHING before it.



Why do you use the O.T. principle to train your children (Pr 13:24; 19:18; 22:15; 23:13-14; 29:15). The NT does not mention saving money, but you do so from Solomon (Pr 6:8; 30:25). It does not mention many godly rules or principles, which were conspicuously lifted from the O.T, yet you are here saying the NT supersedes anything before it. Please study na!

There are principles in the OT very very relevant today, like it or not

Gombs:
If Pastor Chris hhas a problem with Hagin, he'd not mention him in his messages. What If I give my free will offering is cash, imagine me dancing to the altar with a cheque and sinach's song playing, as the savour of my offering (offer 7) rises up to heaven?

Gombs:
Funny.



Huh?
Capital punishment, like tithing, originated long before the Law, but the Law systematized its practice (Gen 9:6). Why wasn't it superseded. Or, are you saying capital punishment is not for Christians too? Why do you and WinsomeX make stamping statements without proper studying?




Paul did appeal to the Law of Moses for principles of financial giving, which shows the remaining validity of the principles pertaining to giving (I Cor 9:8-9; II Cor 9:9; I Tim 5:18). Or are you saying Paul was mistaken to borrow Moses' law?

You guys keep saying "But the New Testament does not require a tithe" "grace did this and that, the whole of the law was abolished" etc... yet, the New Testament does not mention corporal punishment, yet, you ok it today, yet you use the O.T. principle to train your children (Pr 13:24; 19:18; 22:15; 23:13-14; 29:15). The NT does not mention saving money, but you do so from Solomon (Pr 6:8; 30:25). It does not mention many godly rules or principles, which were conspicuously lifted from the O.T, yet you are here saying the NT supersedes anything before it. Please study na!



See who said the NT supersedes the OT, yet a prominent NT fellow used a good chunk of it in teaching and doctrines, or are you more smarter or your Holy Spirit is the genuine type?

Oh dear Lord Jesus!

Image123:
So my giving is nobody's business, yet y'all have your knickers in a suicidal twist over our tithe giving. That's weird.

Gombs:
If I were a pastor, I'd be more than glad to let you all know. I am not subtle as you, nor a doctorate degree holder in dishonesty as trustman, he of course beat you to that feat, with a small margin.

You know Midas touch would shatter your NL-life long crusade, no wonder you went for the jugular and called Hagin a failure. Tithing is one of the cardinal point of funding the work of the ministry, Until you and your brigade find a verse in the good book where tithing is condemned, I see no basis to continue debating it.

Image123:
You don't care? That's news. So, tithe is significant one way or the other?

mbaemeka:
1. I am sure you would not go about witch-hunting to uphold that scripture. (Every pun intended). The essence of the OT to us is in identifying the promises of the principles found therein. In the case of Malachi 3 the promise is there and can never be done away with.

3. You are arguing from the silence of the scriptures on tithing but even Cornelius the Proselyte (who must have paid tithes while he was a practising Jew) wasn't identified as a tither. Do we also say he never tithed? What about urinating? Since it was never mentioned in the scriptures do we also conclude that the disciples never urinated?

Tithes wasn't done away with even during the NT. Paul was the author of Hebrews and he made references to it without announcing it's annulment and he used that book to assert the annulment of many other Jewish practices. It proves that he too wasn't against it or don't you think so? And can you prove from the NT that tithing was annuled?

italo:


You're even debunking your own claim.

So the Bible is not all the authority we need, because without 'history,' you dont even know if the Bible was written by apostles or devil worshippers.

History, then, has become an authority for you.

Can you show me where history says that Mark and Luke were written by Mark and Luke?

Can you also tell me why you believe the historians are infallible?

*note that I dont agree we know from history, rather tradition. History is researched, tradition is handed down. You didnt research the authorship of those books, it was handed to you. But pls answer the questions above

Image123:
Wages of sin is eternal separation from God? Who told you that? E bi like say today na harvest sha. See stockpile, lollllllllllllaaaaa.

Image123:
Okay, let's get this right this instance. TITHE IS VERY SIGNIFICANT in the enslavement of believers through half-hearted attempts at keeping Torah, the blatant mutilation of scriptures, the dishonesty and the subsequent Pharisaical pride; 'I am not like other men, I give tithes of my all....'
Is that the position? This seemeth to be position season.