₦airaland Forum

shdemidemi:
2 Tim 23
Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.

sonOfLucifer:
Bleep repentance. I fear no authority. Bleep YOUR JESUS AND ALL HE REPRESENTS. Remain a slave to a dead being and let me live my life in peace. FEAR AND THREATS DO NOT WORK ON THE MEN OF LIGHT.

In Malachi 3:8-11, God said all His children who are robbing Him in tithes and offerings have violated His covenant, and therefore are under a divine curse. However, He says if they will restitute their ways, He will personally rebuke the devourer for their sakes and open the windows of Heaven to them and give them a blessing they will be unable to contain. There are two type of devourers – the ones sent by the devil (John 10:10) and the ones sent by God. To deal with the devourers sent by the devil, simply resist him and he will flee from you as long as you are in right standing before God. But to deal with the devourers sent by God, it is through restitution. You will have to cry to God for forgiveness and thereafter undo what made Him to send the devourers in the first place. Do you owe God in tithes, offerings, thanksgiving or vows? Ask for forgiveness and go ahead and pay what you owe. If it is in tithes, also add 20% as interest being the penalty for eating your tithes (Leviticus 27:31).

Right Wing Watch reports, “The viewer said that she and her husband are “retired and living on a small pension and Social Security income” and “barely have any money” because of her husband’s medical expenses.”

She asked Robertson if it would be “wrong to use [tithe] money towards medical expenses instead?”

Quoting Malachi, Robertson responded, “Your husband has all these medical problems because the ‘devourer’ has not been rebuked. You need to rebuke him. You give your tithes faithfully and God said, ‘I will rebuke the devourer,’ the person that is eating up your money and eating up your health. So you want to be healthy? That’s a promise in the Word.”

Candour:
Seek your help elsewhere if you're too dishonest to admit there are threads on NL where tithe proponents have used Malachi to threaten non tithers.

sonOfLucifer:
Jesus means nothing. Go hang yourself.

Topgainer:
If there is any truth in the Catholic history reports of Pope Francis being the last then we can't be talking of 50years range. The Pope Francis is already old and will most likely not be around for the next 50 years

sonOfLucifer:
The name of Jesus is powerless. Demons do not tremble at the name of Jesus. Never have, never will.
Jesus was only good at making up stories. The people who listened to him were the poor and the outcasts, who were mostly famished during those boring talks. Of course, they'd believe anything and make up anything as long as it gave them a meal. Like Joagbaye, Jesus most likely had a mental condition. Fortunately, most are treatable today.

Hiswordxray:
Here is another false prophet coming to deceive many, especially those who are addicted to Revelation and rapture.

Hiswordxray:
Thanks for the book.

shdemidemi:
You are a joke, you shouldn't be taken seriously.

When you are ready to discuss scripture I will certainly oblige you.

shdemidemi:
Keep spewing your customary garbage. We shall see who the depraved person is when you are ready to face your fears by answering questions.

shdemidemi:
ok o.. keep banishing. Who is fooling who?

shdemidemi:
PRIDE is killing you yet you are here preaching the gospel to an unbeliever. Is this the sort of life you invite him to, a puffed up life of hyped evaluation of self, as if he does not have that enough.

The questions are there, when you feel you have something meaningful to share, address them.

shdemidemi:
You have prayed, will this man really perish because you said so to Jesus? Grow up and stop this religious folly.

The man does not need to perish, he needs to be told about the gospel and be left to his opinion if he chooses not to listen. That is what my bible teaches, I wonder where you get the idea you have the power to tell anyone to perish.

shdemidemi:
You could be right and you might be wrong with this postulation of yours. All in all its your opinion and no one should deny you of it.



Answer the questions and stop being ahead of yourself.


I will not explain anything to you UNTIL you are ready to answer questions.

I also have no apologies for always drawing your attention to fundamentals. If you don't understand the holistic settings of scripture, it is obvious that smaller elements like tongues will be misunderstood.

sonOfLucifer:
What can a dead man do?

sonOfLucifer:
Your apologies are needless. You have gotten the attention you desired.

As for Dr. Owuor being sent by the LORD in the spirit of Elijah in Malachi 4:5, we must anchor ourselves upon the words of Christ in the Gospels. I know, it is dark and the days are evil, and deception has gone viral; however, Jesus warned us ahead of time and left us His imperishable Word, and Mighty Holy Spirit.

sonOfLucifer:
There are more polite ways to request one to drop a comment. Good mornings.

Candour:
You see, if you go into past tithe threads, you'll see their true beliefs on the issue. This tactical distancing from Malachi 3 is a recent development prompted by the realisation that folks are getting wiser about the lies. One even opened a thread standing on Malachi 3 to call non-tithers criminals.

Thank God even Hagin has corrected them in his book.

shdemidemi:
I was caught aback seeing you make a statement like this.

1) I will like to know your definition of works

2) your understanding of GRACE

3) when 'grace' was fully initiated by God.

It is very much pertinent to understanding the tongue or unknown tongue issue, so sincere answers required.



What makes you think otherwise?

Answer the questions buddy.

Makweembo:
What a completely ridiculous post and video. The place you are talking about is the faith resort ground of synagogue. Thousands of people, not only from Nigeria but from Europe, North America and Asia visit The Prayer mountain of SCOAN every year, they even play videos from there on Emmanuel TV?? Where is the shrine you are talking about? Because it is next to a lake? Come on man....

don't believe everything in this world.

wake up - what an utter nonsense. smh smh smh.

Gombs:
Hahahahahah, this is WinsomeX's specialty. He once opened (i think) a thread about Christ Embassy's policies, one which included separating wives from their pastors. Better still, take this to the WoF thread and make it F24

Candour:
I wonder if its a church-wide belief or a branch pastor getting too dreamy and overzealous.

shdemidemi:
I was caught aback seeing you make a statement like this.

1) I will like to know your definition of works

2) your understanding of GRACE

3) when 'grace' was fully initiated by God.

It is very much pertinent to understanding the tongue or unknown tongue issue, so sincere answers required.

Candour:
An effect of rushing for multitude is your branch pastor telling Jeff he contracted HIV because he didn't pay first fruits. Of course I trust you or oyaks don't believe that nonsense.

Its better to get one person knowing the truth than building an empire of spiritual zombies feeding on junk.

shdemidemi:
I will definitely grab a copy, May be not so much because of the title but for the concise review and the opportunity to read his opinion on the issue of tongue and unknown tongue.

Gombs:
Vooks, I think you are smarter than this. ROR thread is not a discussion thread, it is a devotional thread. All the ones you mentioned are discussions, some made front page.

RoR has been on for long, the oldest (maybe I'm wrong) standing thread with daily updates. Buddy, I know those who get updates there for their whatsapp and facebook posts... in average, no less than 1, 500 is reached daily. Now, my joy is the word going out, lives changing, unlike some with the tear down, pull down syndrome. They type away, criticizing and castigating, but never making an impact themselves.

Bidam:
And i have not seen any so far, if they are threatened then it's wrong.

trustman:
Now, Bidam, are you really being truthful on this?
Will you say you've heard or read no person or church advocating tithe payment today 'threatening' believers with 'robbing God' and the eventual possibility of ending up in hell?
Or losing blessings or health, etc?

MarkMiwerds:
i have posted this more than once on this forum, so not sure why you haven't seen it?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmh_IF-eJQc

Also, google Angelica Zumbranos, she tells people that she saw people in hell for not tithing. If
I remember correctly, Richard Sigmund also preached non-tithers would go to hell because they are robbing God. Practically every tithe-teaching preacher I have ever known tells their congregations their health, jobs, families, homes, vehicles, etc., will be cursed for not tithing.

Gombs:
Good questions

I measure impact from the number of emails I get, plus, the nu ber of views per day. I resurrected the ROR thread and had 6 views per day, today, I get an average of 150views per day plus countless testimonies and prayers. You can view the thread for more details.

That thread has suffered alot of attack, especially in the heat of the divorce brouhaha, now, a deranged NL, has taken my cool gifs there, thinking I'd get angry. He like others will fsde with time, and the ror thread will keep moving. My gifs made alotta folks mad bro!

Now, that's Impact. The thread has suffered persecution, but stood. Why, God no dey sleep. Same with this thread. Now compare this thread with that of WoF created by a select few.

Gotta run bro, IPPC next session is 7:55am- I am not a pastor o, but Meeeehn, seeing Rev Tom and Evangelist Owase in close proximity is very thrilling. Catch you boys later.

PS: I know who's invading the ror thread, he infact is helping the thread stay up...meaning, more views, more readership, more impact. I am not moved, he'd fade with time. Makes me remember what Paul wrote
[NLT] Philippians 1:17 Those others do not have pure motives as they preach about Christ. They preach with selfish ambition, not sincerely, intending to make my chains more painful to me.
[NLT] Philippians 1:18 But that doesn’t matter. Whether their motives are false or genuine, the message about Christ is being preached either way, so I rejoice. And I will continue to rejoice.

shdemidemi:
Ok.. I will try grab a copy. What exactly is the book about, can we have your review of the book.

dein77:
Honourable vooks, good morning.

I may not have framed my question any better than it already is.

Members of the Church in question conspicuously wear lemon coloured aprons all around.

I do not have photos now.

Bidam:
I agree, i do not agree tithers on this forum advocate such, most topics on tithes on this forum are opened by anti tithers and very few by tithers.No one is FORCING a christian to give. If he doesn't want to give that's between him and his God.