Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:50am On Nov 20, 2014 |
If Greek was not effective in carrying the names, don't you think the MOST intelligent thing is to have the New Testament written in Hebrews? Was it impossible to have NT in Hebrews and have God demand that we learn the same so as to preserve His name? this way, He would have preserved the 'original' names in their full power and prevented much corruption we are seeing  Unibenstudent: it was written as kyrios because yeshua and Yahweh could not be spoken effectively in Greek,,but am sure a man like Paul who worked miracles would have spoken the name Yahweh and yeshua |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 8:44am On Nov 20, 2014 |
My brother, There may be no specific curse on tithing, coveting but Deuteronomy 27:26 pronounced a CURSE on breaking the Law. I believe that CURSE is sufficient. Do you need more than that? Am sure you are imagining the Malachi non-tithing curse as non-Mosaic and probably 'universal', cutting across Old and New Testament. It was very Mosaic o. If breaking the Law attracts a CURSE, even before I read Malachi, I know not tithing puts me under a CURSE because tithing is part of the Mosaic Law  The commandment that ONLY Levites could offer sacrifices was not a Levitical Law but a non-Levitical Law; it was directed at the non-Levites because they were at a risk of attempting to carry out Levitical duties  Bidam: My point is i see no specific curse as regards to tithes regulated under the mosaic law, if you have pls show me. No need chasing the wind here. You think so? An Israel king broke those laws when he entered the temple to offer sacrifices and he is a non levite. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:37am On Nov 20, 2014 |
In Acts 2:35, Peter called Yahweh KYRIOS. Do you think they were IGNORANT of the things you are claiming here by substituting the spiritual name of God? Unibenstudent: all those names are not his spiritual name,those are names which man decide to call him,,but Yahweh calls himself Yahweh..who then has right to call the most high by another name..occultic people respect the name of Yahweh,yhwh the sacred tetragrammation ..do ur research |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:32am On Nov 20, 2014 |
The point is there was sin even in those days. Jesus said iniquity will increase. Paul confirmed this by the Holy SPirit Could you please briefly explain why Jesus is antichrist name, what you mean by antichrist, and how the name Jesus brought sin and corruption today? Unibenstudent: sin was not as rampant then as it is now ,we are more corrupt than sodom and gomorrah 100 times over thanks to the name Jesus which is the antichrist name...if everyone will start using yeshua the gates of hell will shake |
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch This Prayer Predator And Weep by vooks(op): 8:30am On Nov 20, 2014 |
I second that. Could you briefly explain why if at all believers need the Holy Spirit IN them if the scriptures are all authority we need shdemidemi: The scripture happen to be all of the authority we need. We can discern truth from false by checking similar or preceding examples in scripture. If any action draws no semblance to that which had been recorded, it must be unequivocally censured by true christians. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 8:27am On Nov 20, 2014 |
And in teaching tithing in your church Malachi is never used? Bidam: In the church i worship, tithing is taught as a voluntary form of giving. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:23am On Nov 20, 2014 |
The sons of Eli were priests and they committed abominations in the name of Yahweh. Ananias and Saphira in the first century under which you imagine they used Yeshua and not Jesus sinned by lying to Holy Spirit and were killed instantly. If there is sin in church it is not because we use the name Jesus and not Yashua. Yours is a case of BAD LOGIC Unibenstudent: at the mention of the name of Jesus ,Nigerian pastors will enrich themselves with wealth but at the mention of the name of yeshua every kneel shall bow be it in the likeness of things on earth or hweaven or below earth that every tongue must confess that yeshua is Adonai(lord) to the glory of EL (GOD) the father |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 8:15am On Nov 20, 2014 |
My brother, How can they be cursed for that which they are exempted? And BTW, who said they were exempted? These were LEAST LIKELY to engage in gainful farming meaning little to zero increase and no tithing obligation on them. They were mostly on welfare. Tithes were on the increase and you can bet during famine, there would have been NO increase hence NO tithing obligation on everyone. Could they be cursed for not tithing on the increase they never had? When the Lord punished Eli's sons, it is because they were the breaking the relevant Levitical laws. A non-Levite can't possibly be punished for breaking Levitical Laws because they are not applicable to them  Bidam: So what are the curses to widows,orphans and strangers who are exempted from the tithes UNDER the law? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:11am On Nov 20, 2014 |
What you need to do is not gloat of your allegiance but to subject your doctrine to scriptures because that is the ONLY objective way of arriving at the truth. There is no point sticking to beliefs and doctrines you can't prove out of the scriptures. In fact, clinging to such proves that you have more faith in your traditions than the Word of God Unibenstudent: anyway we can not agree on issues cos I have sworn allegiance to Yahweh and yeshua |
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch This Prayer Predator And Weep by vooks(op): 8:05am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Catholicism has had their fair share of idiocy including but not limited to persecuting Galileo. Facing Rome is not the solution italo: Protestants!
Why are you maligning the "Prophet" when you claim anyone can interpret the Bible, open a "Church" and teach according to his interpretation.
The "prophet" is doing what 'God told him.'
When did God set you as an authority over him? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 8:02am On Nov 20, 2014 |
More similar but definitely not Yeshua. If NT was written in Arabic a language close to Hebrews, the name would even be MORE closer to the Hebrew name. Do you know we don't have a SINGLE reference to the name Jehovah in the NT? The Holy Spirit inspired NT authors referred to the Septuagint or Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament. We have the word LORD or KYRIOS instead of YAHWEH. This blows your bogus argument out of the water. For instance Acts 2:34 is Peter quoting Psalms 110:1. This means Peter had no regard to YAHWEH/JEHOVAH's 'proper name'. That nonsense of what is 'proper'/'accurate' is left to the sectarian Jehovah's Witnesses but not serious believers. You can't possibly work out your salvation with fear and trembling if you are shackled with superstition and man-made traditions. Lay them aside as they are besetting you. They make you doubt Bible translations Unibenstudent: in new testament the name yeshua was written like this eeaasous,,if a Greek man pronounces that it would be more similar to yeshua than Jesus ,*anyway salvation is personal ,,work out ur salvation with fear and trembling |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 7:49am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Apologies my brother, I was referring you to consequences of breaking the Law for people UNDER the Law Wages of sin is DEATH or eternal separation from God  Bidam: I am asking for specifics not generalities. You are saying this general curses applies to widows,orphans and strangers who are exempted from the tithes?
What are the consequences of sexual immorality to a christian? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 7:42am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Who told you the name Jesus/Jehovah is WRONG? Do you know the New Testament was written in Koine Greek and none of all the references to Jesus bore your imagined proper name YESHUA? You start living in CHrist the moment you drop your superstitions and man made traditions Unibenstudent: even in juju u need to get the name of the divinity right to call his presence ,because there are a thousand and 1 principalities and powers on earth ,but we who relate with the head of all principalities and powers must not jeopardise his sacraed name which is YAhweh and his only begoteen son is YESHUA |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 7:35am On Nov 20, 2014 |
He is closely following image123. He wants to demonstrate that we are not really that 'free' from the Law since we 'look to the Law for guidance' in matters such as adultery. Next step will be to wonder why we readily dismiss tithing yet we retain adultery from Moses. He will brand us hypocrites Brain is a terrible thing to waste trustman: Is your hopping from one thing to another this morning for real or you just feel like posting things?
You wouldn't even focus on getting an issue clear before jumping on to another.
When the Christian is told to 'flee' something does that suggest to you that it is right? If the Christian disobeys such a directive do you suppose there will be penalty?
Have you never read Deuteronomy 30? Maybe you should go and read it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 7:30am On Nov 20, 2014 |
We relate to God according to His revealed word not subjective revelations. You should subject your revelations to scriptures and see if they line up. If he visits you at 0300H and tells you He is annoyed, ask Him how you would prove that from scriptures  Unibenstudent: because I love Yahweh and he loves me ,so he speaks through me even though I may be carnally minded @ times ,, |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 7:27am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Who told you He is annoyed? The reason I can't change my name to Portuguese is because am an African,I live in Africa among Africans and not Portuguese and there is zero incentive to change my name Unibenstudent: anyway I believe Yahweh knows that we will be born in an English setting but what he is annoyed with is that people calling him Jehovah or The lord when his name is simple Yahweh ..it his name ,why don't u change ur native name to Ghana or Portuguese?? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 7:24am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Bidam, The penalties don't apply to Christians and that is why you don't stone adulterers or witches. Or do you stone them in Naija? Read for yourself Deuteronomy 27:26, Jeremiah 11:3 and Ezekiel 18:4 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 7:19am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Yes he spoke to Paul in Hebrews. What part of that makes Hebrews spiritual? Walk me through your logic  Unibenstudent: when Jesus was to speak to Paul who understood both Greek and Hebrew Jesus chose to speak to him in Hebrew ? Acts 26:14. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 7:17am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Have you ever heard tithing taught in church? Bidam: Nope, should i be hopping from church to church to hear it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 7:14am On Nov 20, 2014 |
You are funny, There are specific penalties for breaching specific Laws like sabbath,stealing, or witchcraft or adultery and then there is the general curse for breaking ANY of the Laws  AM sure you don't need verses but I will gladly share if you doubt it Bidam: So what are the consequences of sexual immorality to the christian who is free from the law ? I don't even see any penalty to those who do not tithe in the mosaic law. The prophecy came when Israel was unfaithful long after the Law was given. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 7:11am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Have you ever heard tithing taught from Malachi outside NL in a church? Bidam: Yes, from you and your cohorts. I came from a muslim background.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 7:08am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Who says Hebrews was spiritual language? What is a 'spiritual language'? Can you demonstrate that from the scriptures? Unibenstudent: Jesus lived in an age where the spiritual language was Hebrew and the piddgin language was aramaic,,Jesus is divine so to fufill all righteousness he also had to have a divine name which yahushua meaning Yahweh is salvation but was shortened to yeshua meaning salvation because the then Jews didn't want people to use the name Yahweh because the said it was too holy to pronounce it |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 7:07am On Nov 20, 2014 |
My brother, you may not have SEEN but have you HEARD or READ it anywhere?  Bidam: The gospel truth is i have not SEEN any so far. You folks can go chase the wind or shadow for all i care.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 7:04am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Cheer bro  Bidam: Ok, never mind. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 7:01am On Nov 20, 2014 |
What else should we retain in Jewishness? Diet, culture, songs,art, literature,farming? This is a rhetorical question. It is absurd to impose Jewishness on non-Jews. Jesus spoke Aramaic and not Hebrews. Recall when he raised a young girl, He said TALITHA CUMI. What in the world was wrong with Him? Couldn't he speak Hebrew? (Mark 5:41) Unibenstudent: yes he does if not he wouldn't have sent (yeshua)Jesus into a Hebrew world ,he would have sent him to Asia or somewhere else , |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 6:52am On Nov 20, 2014 |
My brother, I don't get what you are onto but I believe the definition of fornication in NT and the USAGE of the same from first century settles it. If it includes premarital sex, then premarital sex is fornication  What is your point? Bidam: An argument going on for a long time here is whether premarital sex is fornication. Now premarital sex may not be worded in the NT as part of fornication but it's found in the mosaic law which was intended to bring awareness of sin and guilt.
Bible sense entails that by obedience to the Holy Spirit, Christians manifest God’s love and righteousness in harmony with the Commandments moral principles. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 6:49am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Why is it appalling? You think God likes Hebrews better than other languages? Unibenstudent: it is just so appaling ,I think Yahweh is already fed up with the lies by satan |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Avoid Using The Names (YAHWEH And YESHUA) by vooks: 6:30am On Nov 20, 2014 |
The same reasons they use Jerusalem and not Yerushalayim or יְרוּשָׁלַיִם |
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch This Prayer Predator And Weep by vooks(op): 6:27am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Luke 10:18-20 King James Version (KJV)
18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.sonOfLucifer: I ain't that dead Jew you worship. The rascal who was spat upon and clubbed like a slave. How could such a man die to set anyone free? I weep for you. I can't imagine the horrors you go through, the torture of your existence so horrible you desire a better called heaven. You are not better than a maggot. Those who bow down to Gods will be treated like dogs. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Midas Touch- A Balanced Approach To Biblical Prosperity - Kenneth Hagin by vooks: 6:06am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Who distinguishes a 'moral' law from the rest? Your arbitrariness? What do you mean by 'universal'? Image123 wondered whether the two verses apply to Christians. Am saying they apply but not because the verses exist but rather due to the NT emphatic censuring of adultery. Bidam: You are shifting...Am actually referring to the moral law of adultery. It is universal even before the gentiles knew the torah. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Watch This Prayer Predator And Weep by vooks(op): 5:53am On Nov 20, 2014 |
Weep for yourself you son of Belial. sonOfLucifer: Why should I waste my tears on fools? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Kenya Bans New Churches Amid 'miracle-faking Spree' by vooks: 5:52am On Nov 20, 2014 |
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