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btoks:
Sincerely, who did give us the bible?Also,where is the church that Jesus established?

The bible was given by all who authored it. The church is anybody who believes in Jesus Christ. What do you mean where the church is?

analice107:
That's because he will be judging and condenming himself and his sex partner, because he is gay himself.

That apart, why does he judge corruption, users of contraceptives, IVF and so forth?

The answer is simple; assuming an ambiguous position on this absolves Catholicism of any stigma associated with standing for the truth namely God is opposed to homosexuality

dorox:
One word explains why people of the same mindset as the op feel blessed when they give their meagre all to fund their pastor's lordly life style, and it is called idolatory.

As a god, their pastor is not expected to look like them, or be concerned with the same mundane issues (such as food, shelter, clothing and health) they are forced to grapple with everyday. Their man of god should be above it all, awesome and seperate from them.
It is his awesomeness that gives them hope that perhaps someday, if they are lucky, one of his many blessinngs and prophecy might take hold in their lives and open the door for them to have a little share of their god's kingdom.

Bros,
Service is so lucrative that even the uncalled can't help but jump in.
The other group are the called who butt in with a sense of entitlement. The demand recompense for all they left behind and for the prayers and fasting and the rigors of the job

[size=1pt]quote author=kehnton post=41959788]James the Just

An important figure to the ancient Nazarenes was that of James the Just (Ya'akov HaTzadik). After the death of Yeshua, the Nazarenes recognized his brother James the Just as legal heir to the throne of David. For this reason the Nazarenes recognized James the Just as the Nasi of their Nazarene Sanhedrin (Acts 15).
It is likely that James the Just had students of his own, and that his movement merged into the Yeshua movement after Yeshua's death. This is evident because there is scarecely any mention of James the Just prior to Yeshua's death, however very early on he became leader of the Nazarene movement (Acts12:17; 15:13-29; 21:18-26 & Gal. 1:19; Eusebius Eccl. Hist. 2:23). According to the Goodnews of Thomas, it was Yeshua himself who named James the Just as their new leader:

The students said to Yeshua: "We know you will leave us.
Who is going to be our leader then?" Yeshua said to them:"No
matter where you reside, you are to go to James the Just, for
whose sake heaven and earth came into being."
(Goodnews of Thomas saying 12)

The Goodnews according to the Hebrews relates the following regarding James the Just:

Now the L-rd, when he had given the linen cloth to the servent
of the priest, went to James and appeared to him (for James had
sworn that he would not eat bread from that hour wherein he
had drunk the L-rd's cup until he should see him rise again
from among them that sleep), and again after a little, "Bring
you," said the L-rd, a table and bread", and immediately it is
added", "He took bread and blessed and broke and gave it to
James the Just and said to him: "My brother, eat your bread, for
the son of Man is risen from among them that sleep."
(Quoted by Jerome; Of Illustrius Men 2)

This is likely the event Paul refers to in 1Cor. 15:7 and it likely had a profound effect upon James.

The Nazarene historian Hegesippus (c. 180 C.E.) is quoted by Eusebius (4th century) as describing James the Just this way:
But James, the brother of the L-rd, who, as there were many of
his name, was surnamed the Just by all, from the days of our Lrd until now, received the government of the assembly with the
emissaries. This emissary was consecrated from his mother's
womb. He drank neither wine nor fermented liquors, and
abstained from animal food. A razor never came upon his head,
he never anointed with oil, and never used a bath. He alone was
allowed to enter the sanctuary. He never wore woolen, but
linen garments. He was in the habit of entering the Temple
alone, and was often found upon his bent knees, and
interceding for forgiveness of the people; so that his knees
became as hard as camel's. in consequence of his habitual
supplication and kneeling before G-d. And indeed, on account
of his exceeding great piety, he was called the Just, and Oblias
(or Tzadik and Ozleam) which signifies justice and protection
of the people; as the prophets declare concerning him.
(Hegesippus in the fifth book of his [lost] commentaries,
quoted by Eusebius; Eccl. Hist. 2:23)

James the Just was very popular with the Jewish community in general. Under his inflence the Nazarene movement grew until his death in 63 C.E, as Hegesippus goes on to say:

Some of the seven sects, therefore, of the people, mentioned by
me above in my commentaries, asked him what was the door to
Yeshua? and he answered: "That he was the Saviour." From
which, some believed that Yeshua is the Messiah. But the
aforementioned heresies did not believe either a resurrection,
or that he was coming to give to every one according to his
works; as many however, as did believe, did so on account of
James. As there were many therefore of the rulers that
believed, there arose a tumult among the Jews, Scribes and
Pharisees, saying that there was danger, that the people would
now expect Yeshua as the Messiah. They came therefore
together, and said to James: "We entreat you, restrain the
people, who are led astray after Yeshua, as if he were the
Messiah. We entreat you to persuade all that are coming to the
feast of the Passover rightly concerning Yeshua; for we all
have confidence in you. For we and all the people hear the
testimony that you are just, and you respect not persons.
Persuade therefore the people not to be led astray by Yeshua,
for we and all the people have great confidence in you. Stand
therefore upon a wing of the Temple, that you may be
conspicuous on high, and your words may be easily heard by
all the people; for all the tribes have come together on account
of the Passover, with some of the Gentiles also. The aforesaid
Scribes and Pharisees, therefore, placed James upon a wing of
the Temple, and cried out to him: "Oh you just man, whom we
ought all to believe, since the people are led astray after
Yeshua that was crucified, declare to us what is the door to
Yeshua that was crucified." And he answered with a loud
voice, "Why do you ask me respecting Yeshua the Son of
Man? He is now sitting in the heavens, on the right hand of
Great Power, and is about to come on the clouds of heaven."
(Ps. 110:1 & Dan. 7:13). And as many were confirmed, and
glorified in this testimony of James, and said, Hosanna to the
son of David, these same priests ans Pharisees said to one
another: "We have done badly in affording such testimony to
Yeshua, but let us go up and cast him down, that they may
dread to believe in him." And they cried out: "Oh, oh, the Just
himself is deceived," and they fulfilled that which is written in
Isaiah: Let us take away the just, because he is offensive to us;
wherefore they shall eat the fruit of their doings. (Is. 3:10)
Going up therefore, they cast down the just man, saying to one
another: "Let us stone James the Just." And they began to stone
him, as he did not die immediately when cast down; but turning
round, he knelt down saying, "I entreat you, O L-rd G-d and
Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." Thus
they were stoning him, when one of the priests of the sons of
Recheb, a son of the Rechabites, spoken of by Jeremiah the
prophet, cried out saying: "Cease, what are you doing? Justus
is praying for you." And one of them, a fuller, beat out the
brains of Justus with the club that he used to beat out clothes.
Thus he suffered martyrdom, and they buried him on the spot
where his tombstone is still remaining, by the Temple. He
bacame a faithful witness, both to the Jews and the Greeks, that
Yeshua is the Messiah. Immediately after this, Vespian invaded
and took Judea.
(Hegesippus as quoted by Eusebius Eccl. Hist. 2:23)

Josephus also records the death of James the Just this way:
Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so
he [Ananus the High Priest] assembled the sanhedrin of the
judges, and brought before them the brother of Yeshua, who
was called Messiah, whose name was James, and some others,
[or some of his companions;] and when he had formed an
accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered
them to be stoned: but as for those who seemed the most
equitable of the citizens, and such as were the most uneasy at
the breach of the laws, they disliked what was done.
(Josephus; Antiquities 20:9:1)

According to Eusebius, his version of Josephus's works contained the following in relation to the destruction of Jeusalem and the Temple in 70 C.E.:

These things happened to the Jews to avenge James the Just,
who was brother of him that is called the Messiah, and whom
the Jews had slain, not withstanding his pre-eminant justice.
(Josephus quoted by Eusebius; Eccl. Hist. 2:23)[/quote][/size]
Akinyera Akinremi,
James Trimm has no theological education whatsoever yet he passes himself as a PhD holder
James Trimm is not a Jew

Papist:
Where does one even begin? You are surely an ignoramus i.e not well read and that is not an insult. You should burry your head in shame for all the unsubstantiated nonsense you wrote above. Which history book did you read? Jack Chick's cartoons?

You are a bloody m0ron for believing 'Catholics gave us the bible'

plaetton:
How do pastors get Rich ?

Good question.
I don't understand how growing rich off charity can offer any satisfaction

There are two points of note;
1. Banning soliciting for funds on radio and tv
2. Banning conversions on radio and tv

I have a problem with the first because much as it is abused,soliciting is a fact of life
The second one is as asinine as you can get. What is wrong with conversions?

If there are fraudulent soliciting and conversions, then banning all of these activities is a serious infringement of the rights of the believers. Best way would be to criminalize these( I'm sure they have) and then descend on violators with brute force. But the government knowing they have an uphill task of proving abuse of any of these two chooses the laziest way out; ban everything

These rules will never see the light of day.

kehnton:
I'm a Yoruba.
Yes we do circumcise our males as commanded as a sign of the covenant made with our father Abraham.

James Trimm, is he a Jew?

superior1:
I am not surprised...interaction with demons

Anything to distract man from the cross is essentially demonic

analice107:
But this Ufologists basically deny the existence of God, right? What do they hope to achieve by denying God, but believing and selling the idea of UFOs

Well, UFOlogists vary in beliefs. For some, UFOs are just creatures from another planet/Galaxy, but for others, these entities are the ones which created us. To these, the concept of God in heaven is actually a primitive description and vindication of their beliefs. You can see that this is essentially antichristianity at its core.

There is also a widespread belief that ETs are super-intelligent and reaching out to them may help advance the human cause. I've heard some countries would love to tap into their intelligence to stay ahead of the rest technologically. Towards this end,it is theorized that contacts with ETs are governments' best kept secrets. I don't believe in these theories because the world is so divided, Russia, China, Europe, US, and I wonder if it's possible for EVERYONE normally opposed to the other to collude on such a grand scale to hide this.

There are numerous claims of interactions with extra-terrestrials(ETs) and I think 99% of them are hoax and nonsense. The 1% I can bet it's the work of demons. Why would demons be heavily invested in UFOs? Because UFOlogy is another ploy of the enemy to turn man away from God

ifenes:
I will monitor your thread....let me see what the dullard has next to post

Fool,
Hang around, you may learn something

analice107:
LOL. This guys. My dear vooks, it's very funny how outsiders hear stories before the Children in the house. Maybe, that was said in secret then when he comes out to us, he says something else. What I heard him say on saturday last weekend was that, no one retires from servant hood, until dead.
Well, I don't know what else to say.

I hear you dearest Anas09,
Too much speculation is gossip and it's just not cool

kehnton:
The messiah was circumcised. Israelites and their descendanats. Thats the sign of the covenant with Abraham.

Are you circumcised, and do you circumcise?

superior1:
Another new age religion?

A twin sister of New Age

ifenes:
Double Cappuccino will do perfect to help bring a brief period of sanity to you.

I thought you were going to add more to your post,lets see you throw another stone,talk about what you do not know.

I don't post serious posts like a deranged m0ron, I take my time. Right now I'm kinda busy...ill post what I promised once I'm free enough

superior1:
Most recording of UFOs are sighted in the United States and I suspect it is because of their newly embraced and wide spreading new age teachings (most discussions on UFOs and ETs are usually within the new age folks/pseudo-scientists, that again will tells you the source of this phenomenons)

UFOlogy is a religion by itself.
There is the scientific inquiry into existence of life in the outer space and then there is UFOlogy which is essentially a belief in existence of and interaction with these UFOs

ifenes:
How do you find worshiping your god,I mean the anunaki?

This and a double cappuccino should do

ifenes:
Is that all?

Not its not. I feel like a Hawaiian pizza

kehnton:
the acts of the apostles is the act of the believers, it isnt fraud. It shows the apostles kept the 7th day shabat more than 80times, and not sunday. Apostle Paul was regarded as one of the ringleaders of the Nazarene sect of Judaism in the book of Acts 24:5

Nonsense incarnate.

Did the 'Nazarenes' circumcise?

analice107:
I don't need to know you. Just like you do not know God's servant yet you lie and malign him, so also you shall inherit a curse. For touching God's servant. Dryness is your portion, in everything you lay your hands to do, until you repent.
You are cursed already. AND expect a plague in your life and family. PSALM 89:23. Go and read what it says.

Anas09,
Please let them alone and let God avenge His servant

KingEbukasBlog:
There is also a 100 percent mathematical probability an intelligent creator exists outside the universe .

And if I may add, there is -100% mathematical probability of random processes generating life in a trillion trillion years

plaetton:
In said ufology would make a lot more sense than Christianity, even it was considered a religion.
At least ufology deals the 99% mathematical probability that other, more evolved and more technologically advanced life forms exists within the totality of the universe.

So you know what is ufology and your pea brain is busy demanding a definition. Bloody Negro mongoloid

plaetton:
You know, if ufology was a religion, it would still make a lot more sense than Christianity.

Now, I am guessing that you're not a ufologists, am I correct ?

But pls sire, since you are the one that introduced the term into this thread, can you kindly define ufology for us ?
Thank you kindly.

Neanderthal, get a dic (pun)

ifenes:
He should continue throwing stones when he lives in a glass house abi?

Kiddo, did you recover from being dumped by a biracial?
You are the biggest idiot I've ever met on Nairlaland

How is your third hand Audi doing?
When are you going to hallucinate your way into a Q7?

KingEbukasBlog:
Sir vooks , please ignore them and continue . They dont want you to pay attention to the thread

Thank you sir, I will tackle the four points and plaetton may pee on himself but I won't be distracted. I'm not here to change his diapers, am nobody's mother

plaetton:
Drive safe, sonnyboy.
I am working on your brain.
I don't want to be picking it from the pavement.

Negro bonobo, am back

ifenes:
@Vooks I dare you read other books and see if you will not become an unbeliever. I can be of help to you if you want

About Sirius Mystery?

plaetton:
Lol.
Aahh!

The power of butthurt.

OK. I will take it a busy on you now.
But be a good boy.

I'm about to take a long drive, hope by the time I get back you'll have discovered something

ifenes:
They compiled the book knowing there will be gullible humans like you in future. Either way you are still a puppet to their ideology.

Idiot,
There was no Catholicism in 400AD.
There was no immaculate conception, nor confession to a priest, nor rosary, nor nothing

plaetton:
Oh silly boy.

You sound like you're trying to get personal.
Are you?
Desperate?
Feeling butthurt ?

Sorry, but when you insist on running butt naked in a market place, someone has to do the dirty job.

You will thank me some day.

You have never discovered a single thing in your life other than you are a bottom feeder lowlife primate remotely resembling a human.

ifenes:
Exactly bro. That's the simple truth.

Crybaby M0ron, who dumped you this time, mami wata?

dukum:
Ok good, if i may ask;why do you read them and do you believe in what they say?

I read them out of interest. I don't believe in them as such