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Is this the man that wanted to govern Nigeria. Ridiculous and stupid thinking

teamoneline:
There was an audio leak conversation btw two politicians one from the north and the other from the west. I don't know their names but this statement by ladoja also confirms it. They are using the oil resources to build the north in preparation to leave/when oil becomes useless. Many people think the northerners are dull. They know exactly what they are doing. The bad part is that is we ibo that will suffer it more. Its just sad.

The north is land-locked. They have got no oil even if they prospect forever. They have less utilized mineral resources and unutilized vast land.

The north can earn a lot with agriculture, they have some intelligent but greedy persons to lead them. They believe in a few dominating the larger population.

Honestly, we shall hail the north when they decide to leave Nigeria or agree to breakup of Nigeria. I hope they wouldn't keep my generation waiting forever.

BKayy:
These Muslims really want to take over Israel, a Jewish state that they cornered centuries ago and they want our sympathy to do it.
With all due respect Mr OP,the Palestinians are the aggressors. They want Jewish lands and insist the Jews don't have the right to exist according to their Quran

If they insist Jews don't have a right to live, they will not coexist in the first place. Remember that they shared their land with the Israelites when they returned needing a land to call a state.

This is not about Muslim and Christianity. It is purely land dispute. Stop reference to Bible and Quran.

The Jew are majorly non Christians and there are Christian Palestinians too

MejiLoyon:
Check the root of the problem....Allah and Jesus. And these people are somewhere looking at the with pity. For stupidity won't allow them see that they are serving the same God. Just in different ways

Allah and Jesus aren't the root of the problem. The land and territory is the root of the problem.

Eshockyou:
And did I mention Jew attacking police.. see me see wahala.. You no fit read again ni.. Maybe I’ll break it down to your low iq so you can understand

In simple words hamas attacked the police and the police reacted back. Hamas first launched missiles into isreal and isreal gave them back to back.. And Gaza or Palestine is still recognized under isreal.. Palestine is just a du jure sovereign state.. Go back to read

So where did this statement of yours come from?


"..... Palestines forcefully removed it.. so won’t the police react back..

Where did you see the Jews attacking the police if not the hamas..
Abeg go back to Google to read"

Again, get your facts right, Israeli police attacked people in the mosque during Salah, desecrated the mosque, destroyed parts of the mosque and shot rubber bullets at people in the mosque.

That was what hamas reacted to

Eshockyou:
Please oooo where did you read it on Google so I should read mine too?
At first the Palestine don’t want to share the site with the Jews and as a result of that the police had to be there and besides Gaza is still under isreal so the police have every right to be wherever to ensure peace and then the Palestine always clash with the Jews because of the holy ground wanting to chase them away and the police came mounting barricades and the Palestines forcefully removed it.. so won’t the police react back..

Where did you see the Jews attacking the police if not the hamas..
Abeg go back to Google to read

Your thinking is ridiculous, who mentioned Jews attacking police. You are just so rigid in your thinking that you have determined it was the Jews or Hamas that were in the mosque.

Gaza is not under Israel, please get your facts right. I wonder where you get your speculations.

Eshockyou:
Isreal are not forcefully claiming anyone’s land here.. The hamas wants to chase the police away from the site which is not possible.. That’s what led to this

Please do your research well before ranting here.. Thank you

Oga, it was the Israeli police that marched into Gaza to give protection to the mob that intends to grab Palestinians lands in Gaza. They were bold enough to come close to the mosque and that was provocative especially during Salah.

What was the Israeli police thinking? They worsened the case by attacking people in the mosque with rubber bullets and other dangerous weapons. They desecrated the mosque on the excuse that the worshippers were throwing stones and bottles at them.

It is obvious you know little about the development that resulted to this situation in Gaza. Google is your friend, please read about it.

Theboss100:
Genesis 12:5 And Abram took Sarai his wife, and Lot his brother's son, and all their substance that they had gathered, and the souls that they had gotten in Haran; and they went forth to go into the land of Canaan; and into the land of Canaan they came. 12:6 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land. 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him. 12:8 And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east: and there he builded an altar unto the LORD, and called upon the name of the LORD. 12:9 And Abram journeyed, going on still toward the south. 12:10 And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down into Egypt to sojourn there; for the famine was grievous in the land.

From the above, it's God's promise for Abraham and his descendants. Ask God the question not me.

But you're a hypocrite. What do you have to say about the fulanis forcefully taken over people's land and renaming it in the middlebelt Answer or forever remain shut.

Just imagine that you were born a Palestinian who coincidentally recides in Gaza with your family and resources. Would you hold the same opinion?

I have never supported fulanis forcefully taking over people's land and renaming it in the middlebelt. So I will not support Israelis grabbing the lands of Palestinians in Gaza and claiming that God gave Israelis the land.

I remember Y. Arafat asking Ariel Sharon to show the burial ground of his father in Israel. Arafat reiterated that he would show the world his father, grandfather and great grandfathers burial grounds in Israel. Does that mean anything to you?

Palestinians are the aborigines of the land. They are not dead, they didn't relocate, they are here majorly in Gaza. Israel should not force herself on another nation.

Please elaborate on my hypocrisy.

superjab247:
Christians can never coexist with terrorists called Muslims in peace

Oh shut up and stop being intolerant! Would you rather wipe Moslems out of Earth? Is that the message of Christianity?

Theboss100:
You're not correct. The land was given to them as a promise. Abraham their forefathers got that promise from God and it must come to pass. The nation of Israel was created due to the covenant God had with Abraham. It's an inheritance which God ordained. Are you saying you know more than Jehovah?

Remember their captivity in Egypt for 430 years. After that period, God have to take them out of Egypt to the land which he promised them through their Abraham. I can go on and on. You can't take away their inheritance. That's why every nation that fought against Israel of God, always fail woefully. It's a convanant. It can't be broken. Sorry

You guys just bring religious sentiments into matters that are pretty straight forward. If the land belongs to Israel and was given to Israel by God, where does that god and Israel want the aborigines of that land to go and settle.

The multitude of Palestine in Gaza should go homeless, displaced and forever shut up.

Come on guys, God Almighty isn't a wicked God. He is God into Palestinians too. Israelis a no more sons of God than Palestinians or Nigerians or whatever race. We are all children of God provided we accept the Almighty God as ours.

Vaughanlanrewaj:
You need to read up on these things sir. Don't be too quick at making wrong assumptions. That you're not aware of the fact and you're now been informed on it doesn't call for you to wrongly accuse me sir.

Jerusalem is a holy land to the Muslims too and the al-Aqsa Mosque and surrounding area,marks the place from which Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is believed to have ascended to heaven. That spot the mosque is built is the third-holiest place on earth for Muslims . Every year, Muslims embark on Holy pilgrimage there and it has been so for centuries. The 3 religions and their holy sites are next to each other in Jerusalem and like I stated, the 3 religions are traced to Abraham, the first Jew. So the 3 religions are Jewish in origin. And doesn't make sense when they kill one another where some other religions are living and thriving peacefully in places they do not even classify as holy site. Maybe there is something we don't know yet because holiness should be seen in conduct and results. So far, there's nothing holy in how they kill one another in Jerusalem and it's a shame.

Please read up on the al-Aqsa Mosque sir . I am a Christian and I grew up learning about other religions and cultures outside my Yoruba culture so I can understand them and be able to make informed decisions on issues outside my native Yoruba.
Whoever is telling you that Jerusalem is the holy site only for Christians is lying to you and pulling wool over your eyes. It is the holy site for Muslims, Christians, Judaism and evem Armenians.
That mosque has a stone that marks the point he was believed to have ascended and it is side by side to the same place some Christians visit to check out what is believed to be the tomb of Jesus Christ and Golgotha where he was murdered by the same Jews.

It is not excusable not to know these facts and that the same way you go on pilgrimage to Jerusalem is the same way Moslems visit this al-Aqsa Mosque and to those Muslims pilgrims , the Laylat al-Qadr (Arabic: لیلة القدر‎), is one of the most important night to say their prayers . In case you don't know or have not bothered to read up on how special that night is, it is variously rendered as the Night of Decree,Night of Power, Night of Value, Night of Destiny,or Night of Measures. It is in Islamic belief, the night when the Quran was first sent down from Heaven to the world and also the night when the first verses of the Quran were revealed to the prophet Muhammad.

That's the night Netanyahu sent Isreali police to go attack Muslims in their holy site.
That is not a reasonable leader. He lacks the emotional intelligence to govern any country.

Check out how close and side by side the holy sites of the 3 religions are in the image below ( image credit: BBC)

I have been trying to understand the reason Israel provoked this war but I can't really get it. However, I know that Netanyahu is facing crisis with his re-election and also corruption charges. I suspect that he instigated this war to divert attention from his corruption and misrule, present himself as the best candidate to keep leading Israel and win Israeli votes.

That is my auspicious speculation.

9jaRealist:
The courts are NOT sitting, so that’s a moot issue...

There’s NOTHING in the Constitution that mandates that the determination of “reasonableness” should be made prospectively. Courts make RETROSPECTIVE determinations all of the time. This is actually not a novel concept.
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Oga lawyer or Judge, answer the question:

So if the case is not before the court. Do the police have the right to deny an accused bail beyond 48hrs with approval from the court?

So, who should determine the circumstances to be reasonable to deny bail. The police, you, lawyer, government or the court?

Answer these question directly. Stop making retrospective or prospective excuses. There is a simple and straight forward answer to these questions.

9jaRealist:
Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution allows the Police to DETAIN a suspect who has not been charged or arraigned before a court of law BEYOND the otherwise mandated 24 or 48 hours WITHOUT CHARGE in circumstances that would be deemed “reasonable” given the circumstances of the case. The NON-FUNCTIONING of courts due to the JUSUN strike would IMHO be one such circumstance.
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So, who should determine the circumstances to be reasonable to deny bail. The police, you, lawyer, government or the court?

That is the question you need to address.

9jaRealist:
That determination is made RETROSPECTIVELY...
If there’s a court available to “pronounce” it, it would not be required in cases like these.

We have to confine this discourse to the PARTICULAR case at hand...
There are DIFFERENT cases where courts are available, but the police would ask for more time to charge.

Let’s stick to the peculiar facts of THIS case!
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So is the highlighted proper in view of the Constitution and right of the accused in any case. Where police ask for more time, beyond 48hrs, without the court approval, is it legal?

9jaRealist:
In a case before the courts, the courts...
But this case is NOT yet before the courts.

Let’s stick to the peculiar facts of each PARTICULAR case!
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So if the case is not before the court. Do the police have the right to deny an accused bail beyond 48hrs with approval from the court?

9jaRealist:
Bail is DISCRETIONARY, even for bailable offenses...
Thus, only real right is CONSIDERATION to bail for a bailable offense.

And for the umpteenth time...
Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution provides for detention WITHOUT CHARGE beyond 48 hours.

Still waiting for you to show us what sections of the Constitution makes the detention “illegal”.
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Who determines the discretion, if so? Just answer that question so we can make progress on this discuss

9jaRealist:
Bail is most certainly NOT a right...
The only right is CONSIDERATION to bail for a bailable offense.

And for the umpteenth time...
Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution provides for detention WITHOUT CHARGE beyond 48 hours.

Still waiting for you to show us what sections of the Constitution makes the detention “illegal”.
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The highlighted is illegal when a competent court of law did not pronounce or approve it.

9jaRealist:
Even for a bailable offense, bail is NOT as of right...

Any consideration on whether he would be granted an administrative (police) bail would depend on the peculiar circumstances of the case, including whether he poses a flight risk or would likely jeopardize the investigations or case (such as by harassing or intimidating witnesses, etc,). Personally, I think he is presently exactly where he belongs - until a court of law decides otherwise.
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Oga, Bail is a right except when the release of the accused may negatively influence the process of Justice and the police can't determine that speculation. It is only a court of law that can acertain that speculation. Hence, the police have to get the warrant to detain him legally for longer period, beyond 48hrs.

What the police is doing currently is illegal.

9jaRealist:
Comprehension issues?!

The Constitution is the grund norm of the law, and all other law and authority flow from it...
The Police is acting IN ACCORDANCE WITH (not contrary to) Section 34(5)(b) of the Constitution!
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No! The police isn't acting in accordance with the Constitution.

9jaRealist:
Even for a bailable offense, bail is NOT as of right...

Nonetheless, what the Constitution actually provides is that a suspect be informed of his alleged offense within 24 hours in a writing and language he understands (Section 35(2) of the Constitution), and that such a suspect must be brought before a court “within a reasonable time” (Section 35(4)). The Constitution thereafter defines “a reasonable time” as 24 hours, 48 hours or (BEYOND 24 and 48 hours) ”such longer period as in the circumstances may be considered by the court to be reasonable[/b]” (Section 35(5)). Given that the ongoing JUSUN strike has rendered the courts currently non-functional and therefore Baba Ijesha cannot be presently arraigned before a court of law, it is CONSTITUTIONAL under the provision of Section 34(5)(b) to continue to detain him until the regular re-opening of the courts.

In the interim, any consideration on whether he would be granted an administrative (police) bail would depend on the peculiar circumstances of the case, including whether he poses a flight risk or would likely jeopardize the investigations or case (such as by harassing or intimidating witnesses, etc,). Personally, I think he is presently exactly where he belongs - until a court of law decides otherwise.
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I disagree with you on the highlighted, I don't think he's a flight risk. I also feel they have soft copy evidences against him and he also did not deny the accusation that he was with the minor. Police could demand he doesn't come near the witness or her guardians.

I think it is unfair to deny him administrative bail. Senators that were accused of more heinous crimes were granted administrative bail on self recognition.

The ideal steps to take would be to seize his passport, document his bail and ensure he has sureties, sound him out on the need to avoid the minor and her guardians etc. Grant him bail.

oluwaseyi0:
I doubt be can pull that, when the delay is from the judiciary themselves

The court does not have to grant bail, the police who arrest the accused grants bail and bail is expected to be free. The police can do the documentation of your sureties and that is it.

The JUSUN strike should not delay his bail especially if his alleged offense is bailable.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
But you worship the Jew and that does not make you in any form of manner a Christian or rational being.

I worship no human but almighty God. Jews aren't God to me. What have you the impression that I worship Jews?

ChiefJusticeFuc:
You will remain an idiot until you stop taking sides based on religion.

It may interest you to know that I am not Moslem and I am better mannered than you. I have no relationship with Palestines nor Israelis. I am just a reasonable Christian.

ChiefJusticeFuc:
Idiot, if you have read what I posted you will read where I stated that land neither belongs to Muslims, Christians or Jews.

And you will see where I stated that I am opposed to Zionism and the fake Jews claim to the land as they have no claims whatsoever .

You will also see where I stated my unequivocal support to the Palestinian cause which isn't based on either stupid religious fanatiscm nor outdated historical claims but rather for the simple sake that the Jew rats are Invaders, genocidal and racist occupiers .

I still insist that you lack manners. Can't you make your point without abusing others. Does the abusive word add money to your bank account or feed you?

bigFOOTcaveMAN:
Israel should wipe off Palestine and take over their land.

You are senseless and irrational. You are even worse than terrorists? People like you should not roam free in the society

nthony10:
You don start, does it not occur to you that this issue has been on since the Bible says. You are taking like it started in 1948.

Who was the original inhabitant of the land?
Who is the father of the Jews(Israel) - Abraham
Who are the forefathers of Palestine - it's the Philistines.

What issue has been on since Bible days? Do you mean the recent oppression of the Palestines? Do you mean the shameful conduct of Israel?

So you mean the Philistines should still be at war with Israel till today?

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Sharap you Muslim pig.

As much as the Jew rats no longer have an rights to Palestine as the land was taken from them by God for killing His Son, truth must be told that Muslims and Jews were the first to invade Christian Palestine and the subsequent Crusades were to free the land of Jewish and Islamic occupation.

You Muslim rats do not have any claim to Palestine. Palestine belongs to neither Jews, Christians or Muslims but as the name suggests has reverted back to Philistia as decreed by Emperor Hadrian in 70AD. Palestine means Land of the Philistine.

Already, your Jewish masters in Saudi Arabia have since approved a mossad coup to oust the current King of Jordan and install in a wahabbi Suni theorocracy that will not oppose Jews reclaiming the temple mount and from there rebuilding their temple to Baal. The king of Jordan holds the keys to the Al Qasa mosque. Your Jewish masters now want to unviel their moshiac and will need to rebuild a temple to Baal on the site of the Al Qasa mosque towards crowning him. You Sunni Muslim pigs will worship the Jewish moshiac like your tithe grabbing fake Christians.[/quote]Why are you so abusive and ill-mannered. The person you abused said the honest truth. Israel is the aggressor in this case, they are land grabbers. Israel is the problem in Gaza strip. Why attack people taking refuge in the mosque even if you claim they were throwing stones at your army? Your army intruded and provoked them in the first place. Then your army responded by desecrating the mosque.

Let us be realistic and stop stupid and sentimental reasoning.

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Sharap you Muslim pig.

As much as the Jew rats no longer have an rights to Palestine as the land was taken from them by God for killing His Son, truth must be told that Muslims and Jews were the first to invade Christian Palestine and the subsequent Crusades were to free the land of Jewish and Islamic occupation.

You Muslim rats do not have any claim to Palestine. Palestine belongs to neither Jews, Christians or Muslims but as the name suggests has reverted back to Philistia as decreed by Emperor Hadrian in 70AD. Palestine means Land of the Philistine.

Already, your Jewish masters in Saudi Arabia have since approved a mossad coup to oust the current King of Jordan and install in a wahabbi Suni theorocracy that will not oppose Jews reclaiming the temple mount and from there rebuilding their temple to Baal. The king of Jordan holds the keys to the Al Qasa mosque. Your Jewish masters now want to unviel their moshiac and will need to rebuild a temple to Baal on the site of the Al Qasa mosque towards crowning him. You Sunni Muslim pigs will worship the Jewish moshiac like your tithe grabbing fake Christians.[/quote]Why are you so abusive and ill-mannered. The person you abused said the honest truth. Israel is the aggressor in this case, they are land grabbers. Israel is the problem in Gaza strip. Why attack people taking refuge in the mosque even if you claim they were throwing stones at your army? Your army intruded and provoked them in the first place. Then your army responded by desecrating the mosque.

Let us be realistic and stop stupid and sentimental reasoning.

Why are you guys so gullible? Those are no armed robbers, they are simply organized to strike each other maybe due to power play and vested interests. They got their desire which is money, documents and passed a message - their play ground includes Aso Rock

Ilerioluwa02:
Being a Christian means doing like Christ... having a Christ-like. I dnt see where Jesus did tattoo in the Bible.

None of us is Jesus, you are not Jesus. There is nothing wrong with wearing a tattoo. Does Jesus wear body spray, watches, perfumes, hair creams, wigs, artificial eye lashes, nails etc.

So why bring Jesus into Tattoo matter

humilitypays:
Tattoo is bad.


It limits your career growth in the formal sector.


It limits your chances of securing a job as a job seeker.


It limits your chances of getting a worthy relationship or marriage partner especially as a lady.


It limits your chances of political growth in politics as you will be seen as unserious and wayward person without strict principle, such person can't be considered a worthy leader of the people.

God frowns at it.

Your parents frowns at it.


The elderly frowns at it.


Security men profile you because of it and prejudge you as a potential criminal.

Only the wayward youths and entertainment world celebrates it.

What then is the benefit of having a tattoo if not to satisfy your immoral mind and that of your fellow immoral group


So why draw a tattoo in the first place


Have you ever seen someone buy a Rolls Royce car with gold plating and then uses knife to scratch it to make it look prettier This should let you know that people that draw tattoo are wayward, insecure, easily influenced by the world around them, are under peer pressure, cannot resist society or peer pressure, and such people cannot become worthy leaders.

A lot of formally employed people wear tattoo but not on obvious parts of their bodies.

A lot of potential husbands and wives don't mind tattoos, it is just unfortunate when you meet people that frown at it and often times because of their personal believes and bias.

God doesn't frown at it when it does not glorify evil and not all parents frown at it.

As for everyone that is against it, you are all entitled to your personal believes and bias. Don't generalize your believes or bias.