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CelebritiesRe: Toyin Abraham To Sue Lizzy Anjorin For N500 Million: 'Apologize In 24 Hours Or' by Wallade(m): 3:06pm On Sep 16, 2019
AverageAnnie:
pigs are reared in a sty not pen Madam Toyin.
Do more research before you judge someone else wrong because the person may be correct and it would also be a learning opportunity for you.

Pigs are also kept in pen.
TV/MoviesRe: BBNaija 2019 Live Updates (Big Brother Naija 2019 Thread) by Wallade(m): 7:59pm On Sep 15, 2019
makydebbie:
I voted Tacha, the same energy I give to Frodd, I gave her double.

I don't regret.

Ahan. See how Tacha has given Nigeria something to talk about again. And someone said she no dey entertain, she's got you so worked up. tongue
We understand the drill, Olosho United
PoliticsRe: Tribunal: Wike's Congratulatory Message To Buhari Got Nigerians Talking by Wallade(m): 1:39pm On Sep 12, 2019
mrvitalis:
Atiku was never and option to beat buhari
Jonathan running again would have been a better choice

Tambuwal ,kwankwaso or even saraki would have easily beaten buhari

Atiku couldn't do it up north ...
You mean: Saraki and Kwankwaso, these two couldn't win their states.

Tambuwal barely won his state.

Mention another person abeg
PoliticsRe: No Evidence That The 2019 Election Was Rigged For Or By Buhari - Tribunal Rules by Wallade(m): 4:15pm On Sep 11, 2019
The judiciary lost the plot a long time ago. The hope of the common man is God ultimately and only.

God bless Nigeria
RomanceRe: How Many Children Will You Have In This Our Economy by Wallade(m): 7:54pm On Sep 09, 2019
3 kids
PoliticsRe: Aye Dee: Boycott BBNaija And All South African Goods by Wallade(m): 3:38pm On Sep 09, 2019
aolawale025:
Nigeria will hurt more. You don't cut the nose to spite the face
How will Nigeria hurt more?
Foreign AffairsRe: Lawlessness Is A Crime Against Our Country – South African President by Wallade(m): 1:26pm On Sep 09, 2019
hammerVJ:
I HAVE NO FAITH IN THE BLACK MAN



BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE SENSE.
Are you a white man or a pretender.
PoliticsRe: Why Nigeria Should Nationalize All South African Companies – FFK by Wallade(m): 7:09am On Sep 09, 2019
ivolt:
And we will live happily after ever?
Some people and organizations may be pained afterall but they will get over it and we will all learn to respect each other.
PoliticsRe: Why Nigeria Should Nationalize All South African Companies – FFK by Wallade(m): 10:44pm On Sep 08, 2019
gabicon:
We need to be logical with our accretion, investment they say is a coward, the slightest perception of threat it shuts down. South Africans are not the only investors in Nigeria, we have other nationalities if we hostile take over SA business don't we think that other investors will get afraid for their investment? This will weaken investors confidence, nationalizing SA assets is out of the picture. That is not to say we can't impose sanctions on their goods and services like president Trump is doing to china.
If you impose sanctions on their goods, Nigerians will be the ones to suffer for it and ultimately pay the price so nationalization is the better option.
PoliticsRe: Why Nigeria Should Nationalize All South African Companies – FFK by Wallade(m): 10:37pm On Sep 08, 2019
Wallade:
All that the Nigerian government would have to do upon nationalization of those assets is:

For companies (Multichoice) unlisted on Nigerian Stock Exchange, government can commence the process to list them on Stock Exchange.

For those listed like StanbicIBTC and MTN Nigeria, government can simply sell the shares, at Forced Sale Value, of South African interests in those companies to the Nigerian public and majority shares to any interested Nigerian organization with sound management track record and technical expertise.

That will sustain the companies sound management and ease the transition. The proceeds of the sale of shares can be paid to the initial owners.
PoliticsRe: Why Nigeria Should Nationalize All South African Companies – FFK by Wallade(m): 10:34pm On Sep 08, 2019
Josephobaz1985:
It isn't a good idea because Nigerians also have companies in SA. Dangote, chief Igbinedion, Gen ty Danjuma, and many Igbo businessmen have companies and franchises in SA . They will also seize those companies.
Nigeria has little and unsubstantial companies in South Africa. Nigeria will be fine after all.
PoliticsRe: Why Nigeria Should Nationalize All South African Companies – FFK by Wallade(m): 10:30pm On Sep 08, 2019
nextstep:
So that Nigerian government will simply proceed to ruin all of the companies it nationalizes, abi. Refer to Nigerian Airways, Ajaokuta Steel, NEPA, and NITEL for examples of how well the government ruins, er, runs industry, and see if it makes any sense.

A government cannot provide for its own people, so they leave seeking greener pastures, subject to insults, and now death. Now the same government want to chuck hand into companies that provide employment and benefits to Nigerians. Mtchew. Then after wasting oil money and stealing contracts for a decade or so, they will sell the assets to their cronies at bargain prices.
All that the Nigerian government would have to do upon nationalization of those assets is:

For companies (Multichoice) unlisted on Nigerian Stock Exchange, government can commence the process to list them on Stock Exchange.

For those listed like StanbicIBTC and MTN Nigeria, government can simply sell the shares, at Forced Sale Value, of South African interests in those companies to the Nigerian public and majority shares to any interested Nigerian organization with sound management track record and technical expertise.

That will sustain the companies sound management and ease the transition. The proceeds of the sale of shares can be paid to the initial owners.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 9:30pm On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
you are just tiring, Nigeria Must Go! Hook us with those GhanaMustGo BAGS we want to use them.
What is so important or beautiful about your country anyway? I only pity the Nigerians you are ill-treating there, I never had interest in living or working in South Africa.

Ship those Nigerians back ASAP, if you wish, we will reciprocate the gesture by doing the needful with South African interests in Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 8:56pm On Sep 08, 2019
chinchonglee:
South Africa and Nigeria re the case studies here..

Most of the companies infact all of them dont operate in south africa. Brother tell ur sef d truth if this deal btw Nigeria nd South Africa goes 2ru we have more to lose. The reason is simple, Nigeria has less/none Multinationals/ Businesses in their country.
I disagree with your argument. Businesses expand to economies that can create value for them and increase profit.

I believe the reason Nigerian multinational corporations and companies don't focus on South Africa is because the market does not present value and potentials that are attractive.

I will give you an example, if MTN and Multichoice is compelled to choose between Nigerian and South African market, MTN and Multichoice would prefer to keep Nigerian market and let go of South African market because they make more income and profit in Nigeria and perhaps some other countries.

South African market is not attractive to Nigerian Multinational corporations and this xenophobic and foreigners hate would worsen South Africa's ability to attract FDI.

Let me ask what does Nigeria stand to lose if Nigeria nationalize South African shares in MTN Nigeria and Multichoice Nigeria?

South Africa and the companies would seek redress in court in Nigeria where they are most likely to lose the case or in another country where it will be impossible to sue Nigeria or the judgement, if unfavorable to Nigeria, will likely not be enforceable.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 8:00pm On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
do we have miserable TV station like NTA in SA? NO! Your other sensible tv stations are privately owned, yours was the dead and buried Tstv!, am talking about NTA International my foot!
Don't derail the subject. We are talking South Africa and xenophobic tendencies
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 7:58pm On Sep 08, 2019
chinchonglee:
Pls name 15 multi-nationals Nigeria has.

Dnt mention banks cos our banks dnt operate in South Africa
Must Nigerian banks operate in South Africa? Is South Africa the basis of determination of multinational?

A multinational corporation (MNC) or worldwide enterprise is a corporate organization that owns or controls production of goods or services in at least one country other than its home country.[10][11] Black's Law Dictionary suggests that a company or group should be considered a multinational corporation if it derives 25% or more of its revenue from out-of-home-country operations.

List of Nigerian Multinational Companies/Corporations

1. Dongote Cement - Dangote Group
2. Access Bank Plc
3. First Bank of Nigeria Plc
4. Guaranty Trust Bank Plc
5. Union Bank of Nigeria
6. United Bank of Africa (UBA)
7. Zenith Bank of Nigeria
8. Globacom Limited
9. Oando Plc

I have given you a few, I expect you to do more research and identify a more Nigerian multinational corporations.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 4:16pm On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
so you want Dstv to be like your stupid NTA? Lol! i watch it whenever i want a good laugh, stupidity everywhere.
You mean you don't have miserable TV stations like NTA in South Africa, LOL. Have you seen some other Nigerian TV stations.

Your DSTV survives in Nigeria owing to monopoly majorly. Majority subscribe to it majorly because of European football. Every other programme is just OK and obtainable on cheaper Cable TV.

Besides, this discussion is not about cable TV, it is about South Africans despicable, disrespectful, hateful, dangerous and xenophobic tendencies.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 4:10pm On Sep 08, 2019
Xisnin:
Nationalization can never be an option unless you are ready to become another Zimbabwe.
Leaving aside international reaction, neither the Nigerian government nor the crony it hands
the investment to can profitably run the businesses.



The bold is due to a sense of entitlement.

Since around 2017, many people can no longer use the Kaduna-Abuja expressway for business due to the fear of
kidnapping. Many have been kidnapped and killed even foreign construction workers.
Do you think the foreigners living in Kaduna should move for the nationalization of Nigeria's
asset in their country(if we have any)?

You cannot demand from another country what is not obtainable anywhere in the world
and cannot even guarantee themselves.
The country has one of the worst crime rates in the world, yet you think foreigners should
be immune from such.

I will repeat once again, the only reason country sign business contract is to make sure that
the governments involved play fair on agreed economic policies.

It doesn't mean the citizens suddenly belong to a special and protected class.
They are just like everybody else except that the government will not interfere
in their investment.
A government that will make little or no effort to protect the lives of citizens and foreigners with their properties, assets and investment has failed.

The security may not be perfect but effort must always be made to ensure safety but when you have a government like that of South Africa which would rather justify their irresponsibilities by blaming foreigners, especially Nigerians. That is the height of it.

Nigeria has security challenges too but will never excuse it or justify it with xenophobic and hateful behavior or comments.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 2:43pm On Sep 08, 2019
Xisnin:
If it is about protection from thieves, looters, and burglars, such agreement is meaningless.

The protection is about the actions of the government not its citizens.
If it were to be the case, anytime a foreigner is robbed, mogged or assaulted,
the other country's government should respond by harassing the offending countries citizens in revenge.

Don't find it funny that a nation that can't protect its own citizens will be asking for
protection from another country? The reality is that no country can promise the kind
of protection you are talking about.

There is no freedom from crime anywhere in the world if you don't like the security situation,
you move elsewhere to conduct your business.

I believe that Buhari and his ministers are not that dumb to pursue nationalization
being championed by a mob of economy illiterates.
Nationalization will always be an option. What is the responsibility of the law enforcement agents like police and drug law enforcement agents?

Security is not 100% guaranteed anywhere in the world but there must be enforcement agents willing and able to respond to security challenges anytime required. That is necessary for businesses to thrive. The agreement is about security in totality not partial security that you assumed.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 1:16pm On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
You can say whatever you want, scroll up and read loud where you say "You people are thieves, looters and haters". We are civilised we just don't want be provoked.
Let me ask you a question: do you do drugs, do you patronize drug pushers?
PoliticsRe: Why Pdp‘ll Lose Kogi Guber Election- Ayodele by Wallade(m): 12:56pm On Sep 08, 2019
Why do "men of God" want to get involved and dictate the Nigerian politics these days?

It is like trying to be Jesus and Devil at the same time. It can never be compatible, "men of God" should just pray for the nation, people and leaders and truly advice the leaders and people when their consultation is required.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 12:47pm On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
is the only language Nigerian drug dealers understand.
Every Nigerian isn't a drug dealer. You shouldn't go about assuming that every Nigerian is a drug dealer. Besides, when you believe that a Nigerian or anyone is a drug dealer, he is an accused that can be reported to the police and let him be charged to appropriate court for conviction. You should not be the accuser and the judge.

Stop justifying your shameful conduct and barbaric tendencies. I expect you and the South Africans to be civilized.

Would it be sensible if I assume that every South African is an HIV carrier?
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 12:42pm On Sep 08, 2019
Xisnin:
You seem to be confused as to the meaning of "protection" in business or trade contracts.
Only a fool will sign an agreement to protect what it can't.
Protection clause is binding on the government, not the criminal citizens.
The contract remains valid until the SA or Nigerian government unilaterally
interfere in each other's investment.
Are you saying that the government of both Nigeria and South Africa were foolish to have signed such agreement.

"Protection clause" requires the government of both countries to safe guard the lives, properties, assets, businesses of citizens and foreigners against physical attacks, criminals and forseable harm that are not induced by market forces.

The government has a responsibility to enforce laws and discipline against citizens and foreigners that operate crimes, illegitimate businesses and violate the laws. The law enforcement agents of South Africa government ignored the attackers and their victims, in some cases, as if nothing happened. The police pretended that nothing was happening indirectly encouraging it.

The Minister of Foreign Affairs in South Africa justified xenophobic acts by demonizing the targeted foreigners.

Honestly, I will support any attempt of Nigerian Government to nationalize the assets of South Africa if the government of South Africa continue to support and justify xenophobia, incite their people against foreigners, tolerate xenophobic crimes, attack and jungle justice treatment of foreigners.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 12:20pm On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
Our government failed us long ago, mob justice seems to be working, you want something to be done, do it yourself.
My dear, the world has moved beyond jungle justice. We are not animals or "stone-age" people.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 9:03am On Sep 08, 2019
chinchonglee:
U guys shuld stop confusing standard bank group to standard chartered.

1. Standard Bank Group re d financial investors from South Africa while Standard Chartered Bank is an English Bank from England.



2. Now back to the matter Nigeria doesnt av Enough Multinationals to start not to talk of the one South Africa will Nationalize. In dis deal, Nigeria is the loser.
Thank you for the information on extract 1. That means StanbicIBTC should be on the potential list for Asset Nationalization, not Standard Chartered Bank.

On the extract 2.: You are less informed about Nigerian multinational and bluechip companies because you don't research and they don't operate in your country.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 8:58am On Sep 08, 2019
ednut1:
has no correlation. The nigerian businesses here are mostly small ones by people with no papers self. So e no follow. A dangote would have agreement with SA not a chukwudi in soweto slums
Oga, the reason most Nigerian multinational companies and blue chip companies are not investing in South Africa is because South Africa doesn't have the population and potential market to drive the income they could anticipate.

Nigeria and West Africa at large is a better market to target than South Africa. That is the reason even South African companies prefer to operate in Nigeria and West Africa.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m):
chinchonglee:
How many multinationals re owned by Nigerians in South Africahuh
The question that should occupy your mind is: why are your South African multinational companies like MTN, Multichoice, Standard Bank (StanbicIBTC) etc concentrated in Nigeria than even your country.

The annual income MTN generates in Nigeria exceeds the annual income of every other MTN subsidiaries put together, including that of MTN South Africa.

The same can be said of Multichoice operating DSTV and GoTv in Nigeria.

Why are these companies not stuck with South Africa, creating more employment and income for you in South Africa?

Nigerian businesses in South Africa include the petty groceries and shops, in your streets, that are owned by Nigerians, if you get their aggregate then you may begin to understand their significance and contribution to your economy.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 8:36am On Sep 08, 2019
KekeNash:
what investments? Nigerians owns copy shops here, where they do their scamming work. They don't even pay tax, there are no Nigerian companies in SA.
Idiot, I said "businesses" not companies - any Nigerian business man running a "copy shop" or whatever you wanna call it, that generates income, is a Nigerian business.

As per taxes, the failure of South African Government to tax the Nigerian businesses should be primarily the government's fault. The enforcement agents should be deployed to get every businesses, citizens and residents to pay taxes appropriately.

If Nigerians do "scamming work" as you put it, let the law take them up not you people who are also looters, thieves, killers, opportunists and haters conducting jungles justice on the "accused" Nigerians.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria, S’africa Agreement Forbids Nationalisation Of Assets, Investments by Wallade(m): 8:12am On Sep 08, 2019
Did South African Government protect Nigerian investments in South Africa. The answer is obviously "No". I think the agreement has been violated already by the SA Government.

Nationalization of the assets of South Africa in Nigeria is a regretable but possible option. We must hold South Africa government responsible for their actions and inaction.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria’s $9 Billion Debt To P&ID: Everything You Need To Know by Wallade(m): 5:01pm On Sep 03, 2019
My notes on this development:

1. The Britons and Americans are also fraudsters. Their fraudulent approach is simply more sophisticated and legally insured compared to yahooyahoo. They allowed their courts to be used to undermine and attack another sovereign nation.

2. Buhari is still inept, incompetent and uninfluential among the committee of nations. It was also noticed at a number of his foreign trips.

3. Whether Nigeria is sued inappropriately, robbed of funds or exploited as a nation, I don't care especially because the government doesn't cater for me or my immediate family.

4. The government has been fu..cking the nation; left, right and centre, now you expect me to give a fu..ck.
PoliticsRe: Xenophobic Attacks: President Buhari Despatches Special Envoy To South Africa by Wallade(m): 3:08pm On Sep 03, 2019
JimohMomoh:
Good one, part of my suggestion in the other thread.

To those suggesting attacks on Shoprite, 99.5% of the workers there are Nigerians, the mall housing the supermarket is mostly owned by state govt or private Nigerian investors, there are also Nigerian shops inside the mall.
MTN Nigeria is now like a franchise, majority of shares are owned by wealthy Nigerians according to Nigeria Stock Exchange.
Nigerians also have a major stake in Multichoice the owners of DSTV. Workers in DSTV Nigeria are almost 100% Nigerians.

We will only hurt ourselves and relatives if we burn down these companies.
Nigerian Government needs to acts now diplomatically, sanctions should be placed on SouthAfrica, high powered delegation should be sent to SA to provide relief materials to Nigerians affected and meet with the Nigeria community over there.
Stop lying, majority of the shares of MTN Nigeria isn't owned by Nigerians.
SportsRe: Mikel Obi Set To Quit Trabzonspor by Wallade(m): 3:46pm On Aug 30, 2019
WaywardSon:
His Russian gf has him roped around her finger it seems.
I hope he has good financial investments.

The way she's influencing his decisions is dangerous
One day she may leave him, She's an Oligarch's daughter so the kids would stay with her and he might be shut off. Or worse left broke
I don't really think it is about his wife and kids. He must have considered and discussed that before joining the club.

The issue or obvious challenge is that Mikel has gone past his good days in football. He is done obviously and the club made a gamble with the decision to sign-on Mikel.

He got a yellow card yesterday for committing a foul in the box 18 and the opponent got a penalty that they scored. The manager removed Mikel almost immediately, I think the club is disappointed in his performance and what they see at training so far. I guess all that is getting at him.

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