₦airaland Forum

DeOTR:
Emphasis on when they filed your documents. Your graduation date is what NYSC will use to determine your age. That's the difference.

Who files your document with NYSC? Is it yourself or your tertiary institution?

So if you agree that the person to file is your Alma mater, why would the school not file within a period of 1year upon your graduation when you were less than 30years old?

Why would your school file your documents with NYSC several years after you and your mates graduated? Didn't your Alma mater file your documents with NYSC when you actually graduated?

If they did and for some reasons you didn't go for service, what happened to the previous filing? Can someone be filed for NYSC service twice?

There is a lot of issues with your position if you must argue in favor of it.

You have a lot of questions to answer to defend your argument above.

Don't worry, the matter is in court already so let us wait for the outcome.

Jackiedemie:
Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (1) of this section, with effect from 1st August, 1985, a person shall not be called upon to serve in the service corps if; at the date of his graduation or obtaining his diploma or other professional qualification -
he is over the age of thirty
he has served in the armed forces of the Federation or the Nigeria Police Force for a period of more than nine months
he is member of staff of any of the following, that is
the Nigerian Security Organisation
the State Security Service
the National Intelligence Agency
the Defense Intelligence Service
he has been conferred with any National Honour.

I think the bolded part will assist you to reconsider you position on this matter!!! Thanks!!

Did the law tell you what happens with people who were below 30years old when they graduated but we're not filed to serve with NYSC for whatever reason and later turn up after they are above 30 years for service.

The question you should ask is: who files your application for service with NYSC? Is it yourself or your Alma Mater or higher institution?

However, this is not an argument worth my while because the matter is in court. You will do well to tell that to the court.

You can apply to be joined as an interested party in the case.

Thanks for your opinion, it is noted.

OGHENAOGIE:
you are wrong oga

You be judge? If court says otherwise to your opinion, abeg go carry placard for protest and question the court.

You are welcome to the file at the court to be joined as a party in the case in court.

Run and make it ASAP.

LOL

Nigerians no go just gree for anybody even when wrong!

Jackiedemie:
But the former NBA Chairman once make an assertion that 25% of FCT is mandatory for one to become the president.
Do you think he didn't go through the law before making such unfounded utterances? The position of the law is 30 years at the point of graduation not mobilization!!!

Where there is a lacuna or vague information in the law, the courts interpret the law and give explicit position on it to prevent misinterpretation.

This matter is already in court so wait for the outcome. You are not a judge and you position is simply your own interpretation of the NYSC act.

The position of the court supersedes all other positions, though you can appeal it to the highest (supreme) court in Nigeria.

Just follow the event in court as it unfolds.

Jackiedemie:
You're wrong. The assession he started is right!!

I disagree with you, just like the various senior advocates of Nigeria - lawyers - disagree with your interpretation of the NYSC act.

The only organization that can clarify us is the court so keep your argument pending till the court makes a pronouncement on it. We are not courts or judges.

Simple.

[quote author=yemex04 post=128181394][/quote]The part of the act that you kept in bold does not explicitly address the age and eligibility confusion we are discussing. That is the reason some persons in connivance with NYSC officials tend to take advantage of the lacuna in the law.

Never mind, there is no need for this argument, the matter is in court already.

Let's see the interpretation of the courts on the age and eligibility confusion concerning NYSC.

When a law isn't explicit, the courts provide clarity.

Jman06:
It is not what you think but what the law says that matter in this case, and the law made it clear that the only condition under which one is not eligible for mobilization for NYSC is if one graduated after 30years of age.

If the Minister and the other guy can prove that they graduated on or before 30yrs of age, then it's case closed. I'm the NBA of all people understand this. Maybe some people just want to intimidate the minister small.

There is no point for this argument, the matter is in court already.

Let's see the interpretation of the courts on the age and eligibility confusion concerning NYSC.

DeOTR:
That's for people that graduated after 30 years.
I went to Finland after my first degree. I came back to serve when I was 32, so I'm talking to you as someone who went through the same process. Except of course if they've changed the law since that time, which I doubt.

I am also talking to you from my experience point of view too. I got an exemption from NYSC service because I was above 30 years of age when my Alma mater filed our documents.

That act was not very explicit on the age matter hence the reason a few, in connivance with NYSC exploit it to their advantage.

I believe that is the reason the lawyers (SANs) are filing the case in court to have the court establish clarity on that age and eligibility confusion.

Otherwise, why do some falsify their age to qualify for NYSC service?

yemex04:
He is right & you are wrong. NYSC reckons with Age at Graduation for mobilization. If you were below 30 at Graduation, you will be mobilized for NYSC even 30 years after..Infact, you are not suppose to get employed with your degree certificate till you acquire the NYSC certificate. NYSC is compulsory for every Nigerian that graduated before the Age of 30!

Can you prove that "NYSC reckons with Age at Graduation for mobilization and you will be mobilized for NYSC even 30 years after graduation" by referencing and quoting the NYSC act, not what you think?

NYSC issues service certificates to participants and NYSC also issues exemption certificates to those who are above 30 years old.

You only need the NYSC certificate or NYSC exemption certificate or letter to get a job with both public and private organizations in Nigeria and to get government appointments.

Open up your mind and learn, stop talking thrash on public media space.

DeOTR:
That's true. You can still serve several years later provided you graduated before you turned 30.

No! What you are entitled to get is an exemption from NYSC service.

Simple!

Hedonisco:
Is this a new police? Since when? Because for a long time, including during my own service year, I used to see old corpers who are clearly over 40 in camp. The explanation has always been that they graduated years ago but only just got mobilised to serve.

If you see older persons serving during NYSC, it means they falsified their ages or NYSC decided to compromise on the requirements of the act that established NYSC

Hedonisco:
Did they graduate before the age of 30? If someone graduated before age 30, it doesn't matter what age he or she later decides to be mobilised for NYSC. One can only be eligible for exemption if they GRADUATE after age 30. That's what the NYSC rules say.

That is not true. Once you are above the admissible age at filing for call-up, you are expected to get an exemption from NYSC service.

Mind you, an exemption still qualifies you for private or public service and government appointments.

lagosrd:
Children of nowadays . You're only good at insulting people once you can't win them in any meaningful arguments. I won't descend low to your level. You're a scallywag. EOD

Okay, let me go there since you have made the discuss about age: How old are you?

Who is trying to win you; what are we struggling to win?

Can you see why I said you are unreasonable and not worth my time to discuss.

You are just a nonentity and broken person. You are not my problem and I don't even wanna be bothered by your kind.

lagosrd:
Grow up . Ure still a kid

Check your posts and ask yourself if you are an adult indeed? I bet you can't even comprehend your posts on the subject.

Like I said, you need to engage a power transformer to end it if you are so frustrated.

lagosrd:
Exactly the lazy man's approach , you can't hold brief for no performance and high handedness. The earlier the better you know that power is transient the better. Who is holding him from performing or concentrating on his job.

Pls be wise about it. How has criticizing someone to sit down in Abuja and do his job, meet the right people and stakeholders suddenly becomes a problem but your sentimental microscopic view will not see him going back, living his job and Interfering with what doesn't concern him in rivers . You won't see that .

Just tell him that he needs to hold meetings with the senator representing abuja simple. Moreso, you can keep telling him this truth , though bitter and you may not like it either . "" Power is transient "

Did I say power isn't transient?

Is there a better performing minister than Wike in the current administration? So what do you mean by no performance and high handedness?

He doesn't have to hold any meeting with any senator who has little regard for him, engages public embarrassment of the FCT minister's person and always want petty attention. Tell your senator to find a better approach to corresponding and engaging Wike.

As for you, you can find the nearest electric transformer to hug if you don't like my comments. I don't care about your opinion anyway since our reasoning is on different levels.

lagosrd:
It's such a shame that you're supporting this kind of barbarism act with big and meaningless grammar. FYI governance is not the way you think it is . Wike is not a lord to himself and can never be. You think power tis for ever. He wile will fall one day under the woman's help and by that time all these his any panky he is playing will not help him. Abi you think the monsters seat is for ever . No bro.

No permanent enemies, politics only has permanent interest. Wike could be treated as a prodigal son tomorrow by PDP and also treated as someone that cannot be trusted by APC. He is neither here nor there but that time , he would have lost his support base in rivers and Benin exile permanently in Abuja, even the Abuja , will be too hot for him.


He needs to see, discuss and at the same time fashion out ways with the senator and the house or representative members who are representing the good people of FCT. When the issue starts even Akpabio too will not be able to save him.

It's a matter of time

Oga, I am not as sentimental as you are about the meeting or no meeting matter. I don't have time for your ridiculous sentiments about Wike's wife being helped by the senator, come on!

I wonder what other issue you want to start with Wike. Let the man concentrate on his job.

Simple.

Ask4bigneyo:
Is rice not contraband goods?

If Rice is contraband, why did CBN list it as one of the products eligible for FOREX requisition through the bank for importation?

Elzazzi:
I will try and make this brief and please ignore the errors.

I was with my close friend yesterday evening. While we were chilling together, a call came in on his phone. it was his cousin that called telling what had happened and also seeking his advice. Now this is what happened, this his cousin has been dating this lady for about a year I think and he has already proposed to her and even took her to his parents and siblings. He also visited the lady family and did some introduction. Now April this year has been chosen for the wedding ceremony proper and a date has been fixed. This is where trouble started.

My friend cousin created a WhatsApp group for his wedding ceremony, he added all his friends and some of his classmates to this group so they can join hands and make his wedding day memorable. He posted his wedding IV to the group and some pictures of him and the lady, one of his old time classmate recognized her and immediately called him for a private meeting for urgent discussions.


He visited him the next day and this guy told him everything about his fiancée. How she used to be a stripper in Lagos clubs years back and how he and his friends had wild 3some with her. She used to base in Lagos as a call girl but relocated to Abuja and that’s where she met my friend cousin. After all these revelation this guy was in deep pain as he had already gone far with the weeding preparations. Of course his old time classmate advised him not to marry her, but this guy loves her so much and he is in a big dilemma of what to do next. As he thinking of leaving the country and go start life with her elsewhere.

Can such past truly be overlooked?

After my friend explained everything to me, I was just short of words but of course I advised he shouldn’t marry her. What advice would you give him in such a situation my fellow Nlanders ?

Now he knows her past and of he is willing to let it slide, that is fine and it is better for them to relocate out of the country to avoid gossips and undue interference.

Big ups to the guy. However, he needs to discuss his findings with his wife to be, give her an opportunity to confess or see her reaction upon putting the findings to her.

lagosrd:
Oga it is not only compulsory but necessary for him to see her. What the hell are you talking about. Where did you get that from. Do you rule people without talking to them or their representatives. Never, oga listen it is not done. Wike should not be selecting people to talk to. If you're not biased , maybe because she is not either an APC woman nor PDP person.

FYI wike too many likely end that same way. Enough is enough of all manners of antics .. you cannot use illegality to manage crisis. When did he get to Abuja and who does he know there . Anyway make I just dey look you for double standard.

Is he working independent of the people's representative. Why will she be looking for ways to pacify someone being paid to do his job. Let him continue, he is just perfecting the process of demaketizing APC which they won't win anywhere is this act of grandstanding, and non cooperative. Even Mr president will not be that draconian not to see the woman.

Who is ruling? Is Wike ruling her or she rules Wike?

Again, I insist that Wike doesn't have to see her to correspond with her. If she has any information to communicate to Wike, she can use other official correspondence when Wike is not disposed to a physical meeting with her. It is so simple.

Wike is human and has a right to select who he wants to meet? We all have rights to associate or not with anyone we choose, irrespective of party affiliation. Wike has a right not to meet an APC person if he so desires.

It is none of your business to determine or evaluate when Wike got to Abuja or who he knows in Abuja. You can't change the fact that he is the FCT minister, as we chat, and perhaps for a long time to come.

If the FCT representative or senators wants to work closely with Wike, she should stop the public drama, stop her attacks on the FCT minister, directly or through proxies. She should know Wike is not a man to box into a corner, harass or bully into submission. She needs to change her strategy.

What do you mean by: demarketizing APC? Kindly explain.

Splashme:
Suffering and smiling mumus are plenty in Nigeria. Oga, sorry oo

Same to you oh

Splashme:
Private Visits should be at your expense, not with public funds - Peter Obi tells Tinubu



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Obi should just shut up when he has nothing reasonable to say

gartamanta:
Lagos is the economic engine room of Nigeria, and the most developed. It is the smallest but also the most populous state. The only state that has land border with Lagos State is Ogun State

Despite the wealth and potential of Lagos, its closest neighbour, Ogun State, never managed to tap into that wealth.

The capital of Ogun State, Abeokuta, is a glorified village. The only other places worth mentioning, Sango-Ota and Sagamu, are nothing to write home about.

Why is it that Ogun State never developed to the level of Lagos, despite being closest to Lagos?

What kind of development are you talking about?

AmazingELixir:
Are you sure you're addressing the right poster?

I thought some persons were trying to bring his relationship with his wife into the discuss.

AmazingELixir:
How does he treat his wife?

What is our business with his private life? How does that affect his relationship with a senator?

lagosrd:
Exactly the problem FCT has. It just shows clearly that the hands of the senator are clean. You said why will a senator see you, see you for what.... No no no no this is too bad and unacceptable. This takes of arrogance and pride..

You're not available to sit down with a colleague? Man you're not a lord. You're appointed to make the job of the president much more easier. You need to be everyone's friend including none party members , women and children.. abuja is not rivers.

Mr president need to call this man to order. You will need people when election. Time comes around again and nigerians are getting wiser.

It is not compulsory for Wike to see her. If she needs to see him, she can book an appointment with his office. If he would not grant the appointment, she can write official correspondence to his office to communicate her desires, suggestions and advice.

Mind you, she is not his colleague. He is a minister and she is a senator, however they can relate officially in person or via official correspondence.

Wike is available but obviously a man of pride and a man that has ego. She needs to find an effective way to handle him and get her official expectations from him.

Besides, what was the senator expecting? She should focus on law making and discuss her constituency projects with the relevant MDAs and ministry without castigating or attacking the minister at every given opportunity.

Wike does not report to her or any senator. Wike is a staff of the president so she needs to restrategize.

She has to stop being dramatic. In fact, she is beginning to give me an impression that she is incompetent or I'll equipped for the job of a senator.

Eteka1:
Watch the video here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqCGT-vrdlY?si=nUmOVlYGQ32tX2IG

The senator representing FCT should work on her emotional intelligence.

She can meet Wike in person or pass her correspondence through letter to the office of the minister.

Government is not about vilifying and castigating each other through the media or third party. If she can't bridge the gap between Wike and herself to be able to relate smoothly with Wike or other government officers, then she can just resign.

The senator of FCT should stop this drama on the media space, we are interested in FCT development not their selfish interest of ego.

fergie001:
Excerpts of AriseTV's interview with Bashir Dalhatu SAN, a former Minister of Power & Mines, then later interior under the Sani Abacha Government and currently the Chairman, Board of Trustees, Arewa Consultative Forum

I can't understand how the relocation of certain depts in CBN and relocation of FAAN to Lagos affects members of the public adversely so much as to elicit such outbursts and complains from NEF and notable northerners.

What is their fear? Why are they worried?

CBN is independent of government on such decisions and the management must have their reasons for the move. They don't need to justify it to the public.

ReubenE:
Withdrawing a case I brought before a court of law myself is an admittance of guilt in another court?

All the injunctions look like something that was read out from a political book.
I thought Tinubu asked all parties to withdraw court cases, it did not apply to the Wike side apparently

I don't think so, I could withdraw my case to pursue a better option, settle out of court, or to restate my case in the light of other information, prior to commencement of argument in court.

Kuginzi:
https://www.channelstv.com/2024/01/22/dont-make-money-your-god-tinubu-charges-nigerians/

I thought money is one of Tinubu's god too

007kjb:
Is PHILISTINE the same with PALESTINE?

I don't have time for people that don't read

chiagozien:
You are not close to with reality or just a hypocrite.

Ipob started by protesting peacefully (which is legal) demanding for referendum.


Your Nigeria government said it's declaration of war and sent soldiers to murder them.


All lawmakers took oath to uphold and be loyal to your Nigeria government, How will Eastern lawmakers now ask for referendum that means declaration of war to your FG.

You didn't demand referendum peacefully, you attacked your people, police and soldiers.

If your senators, lawmakers, judges and governors are loyal to Nigeria, then you are divided in your demand.

A referendum will help you know those for biafra and those against it. Then you can pass it to the National Assembly for ratification and Nigerian government approval.

Go through the process. Stop blaming us for your inability to achieve your aim.