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Eh yah, felt sorry for Clay but i think he had it coming and has probably paid the price for his arrogance. At the beginning he waved off any support and acted like he didnt give a damn about winning or losing then suddenly, nothing else mattered but victory and as he became more desperate for the cash he allowed his game to slide into near oblivion by being too cautious. Sad part was that as his game slid, so did his popularity until he became a near distant memory. Moral of the story; Finish Strong ala Kareeen!
Luclay may not have deserved to lose considering who won but he most certainly earned the heartbreak he just suffered. Oh dear, the guy would be thanking God he said something that nice about Karen during the eviction show and hoping Karen keeps her word about sharing some dough! (Lets hope she doesnt watch those highlights b4 deciding how to share the cash cos he just might miss out) How the Mighty have fallen. About Wendall, the lesser said the better so all i can say is Sheet Happens. But wait o, what da hell? How manage? Tufiakwa, God forbid bad thing!
Great 3 months, and for u guys that think the show wasnt great, it certainly was for me and i had fun all through which included nearly picking up a query over watching Karen's chat session on monday! All join, afterall if Dele Momodu dey watch and shed tears, what more can i say about a program that defined my 9pm for the better part of 3months. Peace out guys

PS; @Fork addict, i know u're prolly scannin thru the posts waitin for your name to be mentioned so u come charging. Permit me to indulge you; you're a jerk! Oya reply o. Lol

Ok if it makes you sleep better.

Kobo,
Why not do yourself a favour and stop yapping denials? The thread is there to determine who started throwing 'INSULTS'. Your 'Blackbook' is legendary and acknowledged by most on this forum so i dont know who u're seeking to impress by feigning ignorance.

Gbawe:
You are such a sad git !!! now I can add chauvinist to the many unsavoury words that come to mind when I see your user name. I have my issues with kobo also but we can thrash it out as educated adults contemporaries.

Anyway , it all ties in together as per your discriminatory nature. No doubt an ethnic bigot will not have a problem being sexist either.  My eldest Daughter is brighter than 98 % of the boys in her class . She can shine because her tutors are not neanderthals like you who want her to "respect her gender".

You're a shameless n disgusting hypocrite. If you've got an eye for Kobo why not grow some balls and tell her directly instead of playing a gutless sanctimonious card like a eunuch with obvious insecurities about his midriff.
Kobo sulked for 6 frigging months during which my posts and threads were blacklisted and the most she did was resort to innuendos over an argument and my point (which obviously went straight thru her head) was that if she was going to be a fussy lady she should'nt resort to jibes, but i obviously wasnt counting on Captain Ijebu to come to the rescue of his damsel. A closet bigot calling me a male chauvinist! Abeg comot for my front make i see road jare, Suwegbe like you.

Gbawe:
You are such a sad git !!! now I can add chauvinist to the many unsavoury words that come to mind when I see your user name. I have my issues with kobo also but we can thrash it out as educated adults contemporaries.

Anyway , it all ties in together as per your discriminatory nature. No doubt an ethnic bigot will not have a problem being sexist either.  My eldest Daughter is brighter than 98 % of the boys in her class . She can shine because her tutors are not neanderthals like you who want her to "respect her gender".

You're a shameless n disgusting hypocrite. If you've got an eye for Kobo why not grow some balls and tell her directly instead of playing a gutless sanctimonious card like a eunuch with obvious insecurities about his midriff.
Kobo sulked for 6 frigging months during which my posts and threads were blacklisted and the most she did was resort to innuendos over an argument and my point (which obviously went straight thru her head) was that if she was going to be a fussy lady she should'nt resort to jibes, but i obviously wasnt counting on Captain Ijebu to come to the rescue of his damsel. A closet bigot calling me a male chauvinist! Abeg comot for my front make i see road jare, Suwegbe like you.

owobokiri:
That road didnt end at Benin, it went all the way to Onitsha.  

The Benin - Onitsha road is a dual expressroad in good condition just as the Benin - Warri road which is in perfect condition. So what's your point?

Kobojunkie:
Actually, insulting me DOES NOT TAKE AWAY from anything I post. If anything, it only reveals  how less intelligent you are as a person!  

Since you've been the one throwing all the insults i guess this is a tacit admission of your brain-dead status right?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=724670.msg8826148#msg8826148 date=1312120074]<quote>
@topic,

If the project is built by private investors, they will also manage the recurring maintenance -repair, rest facilities, restaurant stands, auto repair stands, etc. How would a venture investment on that scale generate revenue to cover cost on the road?

One I can think of is toll gates, several of them at intervals of maybe 100km or so. In addition, rent from business stands and toll from rest facility usage.

There will be too many problems for the financier to recover money.

The govt should build the road and outsource the maintenance to private investors. That's a better option.[/quote]I completely disagree. You're reasoning like a typical Nigerian banker that expects to break even in a year and start rolling in profits by the second year. These r long term projects that may only start bearing fruits in the long term hence the need for long term financing which unfortunately our local banks can not provide.
China on the other hand has got trillions of dollars sitting idle in shaky US bonds and she desperately needs somewhere viable to invest for the long term and i think Nigeria is a perfect place so why should we deny them when our govt is way over its head with responsibilities? All we have to do is set the standards and rules and allow those that are willing to do the hard work and reap the benefits simple. Funny u'lld question the viability of one of the busiest roads in the country.

@Kobojunkie,
I'll pretend i didnt see your jargon this time.

Kobojunkie:
you no read

Apparently, the FG's Failure on the Lagos -Ibadan end is part of the STUDIES, that gave him the idea. ROFLMAO!!!!!  Now, na Bicourtney fault, no be FG wey hand contract on public road to the company fail . . . .

He meant challenges like regular maintenance, provision of emergency services, lighting and others. Why dont you respect your gender and comment on things you're informed about instead of displaying this kind of embarrassing stark ignorance?

otokx:
Since they conceded the Lagos - Ibadan road what has happened?

Nothing happened because the road was conceded to Babalakin's bicourtney which apparently was not deemed to be credit worthy by Nigerian banks. I just hope the FG have learnt from that experience and are trying not to make same mistake with this one.

@Ibime
Who is your tirade directed at? I thought there was a thread for you and your likes to spew your endless BS on? Why move over just to demonstrate your head is full of unending sheet? Is the ministry of works and housing without a functional address? Why not drop them a mail or better still make your comments on GEJ's FB page instead of putting off others with your never ending hypocritical rants. Rubbish

Minister of Works, Mr. Mike Onolememen,
indicated weekend that the federal government
had concluded arrangement to concession the
Sagamu-Benin express road to capable private
investors. He said studies had shown that the
challenges faced on the road would be better
tackled through a public-private partnership.
The minister made the disclosure in Abuja while
playing host to the vice president of China-Africa
Development Fund, Mr. Hu Zhirong.
Onolememensaid: "The Federal Ministry of
Works has concluded all feasibility, traffic and
outline design analyses on that road and we are
clear on collaborating with any discerning private
sector (investor) as that road is economically
viable for interested investors like you. “We are at
the point of advertising for the expression of
interest, as we are at the conclusion stage of
concessioning that road, which we know is
economically viable.”
The minister said the federal government
attached much importance to the delegation from
China because of its resolve to drive the
transformation agenda of President Goodluck
Jonathan through PPP model.
"Wehave decided to accept your visitation
because we believe that the best way to drive
infrastructural development in this country is as
outlined by the present administration of Dr.
Goodluck Jonathan regarding our road.

“We believe, too, that there is a huge market in
this country even as it relates to infrastructural
development because as a ministry we have
done a lot of feasibility studies and we can say
with very high level of certainty that most of our
roads are economically viable, which means for a
discerning investor that it is the right place to put
your money,” the minister said.
According to him the federal government is
willing to concession the road to CADF as they
have shown interest in financing the road project,
but the process must go through the Public
Procurement Act.
In his remarks, Zhirong stated that the purpose of
thevisit was to explore ways CADF could assist
Nigeria in the area of road construction and
maintenance using the PPP model of the Build
Operate and Transfer. He said CADF was willing
to invest part of its US$5 billion facility, made
available by the Chinese government, in assisting
African nations with infrastructural challenges.
thisdaylive.com/articles/fg-seeks-concessionaire-for-sagamu-benin-road/96015/

fork adict:
^^^^^^ @ Oga Wesley.
Can we have your comments on the above post? If i remember correctly, the post is also about karen, its about 24hrs to the end of the show and i bet the poster above doesnt sound like a broken record. Mscheeeeeeeeew

Hehehehe, you seemed to have calmed down a bit. I was expecting you to come charging like a deranged bull like u always did. It just doesnt sound like u without the curses and obscenities, what gives?
Anyway my point was that its gettin too boring reading YOUR OWN opinion(we already know what u think) you could try pasting those of others like i did with Dele's.

^^^ You're beginning to sound like a broken record. The show ends in a matter of hours so when will u finally understand that no one really cares about what you think of Karen? It used to be interesting reading a contrary view but now its simply irritating.

I stumbled on this back page write up on THISDAY newspaper by Dele Momodu, here are excerpts

full piece is on
thisdaylive.com/articles/the-karenplification-of-africa/95964/
  ,  . . . , As head of house, she had the
privilege of replacing herself with one of the
housemates but she chose to maintain her
nomination. Many of her fans got angry that she
had taken a silly gamble, but this singular act
won her fans and fame across Africa. I knew of a
Ghanaian woman in her 70s who cried endlessly
for Karen’s rare display of love for even her
detractors.
I had my own stint at weeping last Monday as
Karen took the invisible Big Brother and her
captive audience down the memory lane of her
tortuous journey through life. I listened to every
word she uttered and watched every one of her
powerful delivery. Nothing escaped me. As I
released torrents of tears, I phoned a friend who
told me that I have good company in his house.
His Ghanaian wife and mother-in-law were crying
theireyes tearless and his wife had just
succeeded in ruining her fresh makeup as she
was on her way to work. The Karen story was a
spellbinder. I was mesmerised by the story of
her beleaguered childhood. It was a stuff of
thriller. She did not know her father. Her 45-year-
old mother who happens to be her role-model
was a gangster according to her and she had to
live with her grand-mum. She did not really
know her father and till this day she’s very bitter
about him. For the first time, she spoke about
how she was in a marriage for five difficult years
for the wrong reasons and decided to quit for the
right reasons. She had to take to doing this and
that while in Europe. She was a strip-dancer and
some of her Unclad pictures litter the internet. What
moredo you want to say or write about a child
the world had already written off as nobody? I
was always angry at Karen anytime she
dramatized her madness and behaved like
someone totally possessed.
But there lies the beginning of Karen’s story as a
metaphor. Hers is a taleof nothing is impossible.
There is a lot we can achieve as human beings if
doors and windows of opportunities are opened
to us. The lesson in this saga is that by the time
tomorrow comes one of Africa’s supposed
gangsters, Karen, would have become one of the
biggest superstars on the continent. She would
be crowned not because she’s the best role
model in the house, but because there is a greater
testimonyto be derived from this quintessential
grass to grace experience. Her mother would
have to pray and fast for her. It is not always
easy to exorcise the demons of street-life. She
must conquer her biggest enemy and that is
alcohol. I’m perpetually troubled once Karen
starts drinking. She is always going bananas. May
God redeemthis young girl and keep her safe till
tomorrow when her life must definitely change
for better or for worse.

^^^ I'm pretty certain anyone that is yet to see any merit in the bill has only deliberately chosen not to. Perhaps its the usual Gej effect playing out on you guys. Why not pretend the bill was sent in by say Wole Soyinka or better still, your idol Buhari, I'm sure u'll begin to see some of the positives. Just give it a try cos i'm also certain a man that was chosen by an overwhelming majority to lead a country of a 150m people wld not send a completely worthless bill to the legislature.

Sometimes you have to wonder what is wrong with Nigerians. Why are you all congregating like vultures to feast on a non existent carcass?
Below is an excerpt of the statement released by Abati

'The ENVISAGED Bill is part of the
Jonathan administration’s transformation agenda
aimed at sanitizing the nation’s politics. The
President believes that this single move, when
actualized, will change the face of our politics and
accelerate the overall development of our nation.
If the proposed amendment is accepted by the
National Assembly, the President assures that he
will not in any way be a beneficiary.
(Sgd)Reuben Abati
Special Adviser to the President (Media and
Publicity)
State House,
Abuja
www.facebook.com/notes/goodluck-jonathan/
president-jonathan-and-tenure-of-
office/253387558022220RT

ENVISAGED : verb, To imagine something as a future possibility. To form a mental picture of something.

Honestly, i do not know what you guys are going off about. He just said the original idea was not his and in any case the bill is not ready so what am i missing?

Gbawe:
It can only be "disappointing" and "embarrassing" to you because you are not a "good follower" of the ACN as you claim. You are just another mischief maker looking to take pot shots at the Party. You should reveal your real intentions because you don't sound genuine to anyone when you round on those opposing a clearly fraudulent and self-serving bill that , frankly, is the least of Nigeria's [b]many [/b]serious problems.

Everything the ACN have said is spot on .

Lol, and since when did becoming a good follower of ACN become an attribute? Oturugbeke, see dedicated follower. That u even think an objective criticism of a party obviously in a hurry to be senseless opposition party is bellied by sinister motives speaks volumes about you. Remember i told u u were gettin paranoid didnt i?
It's obvious most of your criticisms are preconceived and do not necessarily have anything to do wit the merits or otherwise of this PROPOSED bill just like your heroes at ACN. Is this how u guys are going to build the nation and your party? How about objective criticisms and not poorly thought out tirades that exposes your desperation to be what you imagine yourselves to be? How about not acting on impulse just to impress the naive? SMH. riticism of a party obviously in a hurry to be senseless opposition party is bellied by sinister motives speaks volumes about you. Remember i told u u were gettin paranoid didnt i?
It's obvious most of your criticisms are preconceived and do not necessarily have anything to do wit the merits or otherwise of this PROPOSED bill just like your heroes at ACN. Is this how u guys are going to build the nation and your party? How about objective criticisms and not poorly thought out tirades that exposes your desperation to be what you imagine yourselves to be? How about not acting on impulse just to impress the naive? SMH.

@Mikeansy,

The bill is about tenure elongation and the benefits are inherent in the elongation itself so i do not know what u mean by separating the components.
I'm sure if u try u'll recognise a few merits of the bill but if u still cant see any, then its obvious u do not want to.
Gej didnt deny the bill, but only said the idea wasnt originally his as it arose from a stakeholders meeting a couple of years ago. Moreover he said he'lld definitely consult widely before presenting the bill to the National Assembly.

You guys r just being overly cynical. I'm yet to read any real constructive criticism so far and its unfortunate that none of you is willing to consider the flip side of something you've expended so much energy criticizing. The bill has got merits and demerits and if all you guys see are the demerits, then its most unfortunate.

Gbawe:
I did not know that. I won't accuse anyone prematurely but I must say strange things happen on Nairaland. I remember trying to post a thread about the shady dealings of Allison-Madueke as exposed by Saharareporters recently and just before she was to be confirmed as a Minister. Not only could I not post the topic, even as I kept to the rules fastiduously , but I was actually banned for a few days till after she was confirmed as Minister !!!! Now it is revealed again by Saharareporters that Allison-Madueke is required to 'raise' the massive funds that will be required for GEJ's tenure extension. The whole thing was distasteful and appeared a conspiracy by the owners of Nairaland to support GEJ's mission in ensuring that nothing derailed the confirmation of Allison-Madueke.

Just the onset of Paranoia, i'm sure its nothing too serious at least for now. Watch it though.

StarBoard:
On the first paragraph,I don't agree with you. . .
Nigerian politiciansare lazy.That point seems to justify why leaders cannot deliver within a single four-year tem.There is no reason why an elected officer cannot hit the ground running from day one if he claims to have had a manifesto/roadmap as to how to administer his entity.I find that claim rather absurd.
While it may be true because that is what essentially happens in 95% of all cases,it is not an excuse for tenure elongation.

Pls lets be reasonable. There's a learning curve everyone has got to pass through therefor regardless of whether or not u've been leading aliens in the moon or how well thought out your plans are, you've got to overcome the learning process to be of any use and this is more so in a society like ours where the rules depend on the player. Now most agree that that curve takes the better part of 2years and by the third year elections are already in the horizon, so what's your solution?
Lets rise above our collective cynicism and objectively weigh the merits and demerits of the bill before throwing it aside.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=722321.msg8804375#msg8804375 date=1311816456]^Feed that crap to dogs!.[/quote]Oya open your mouth!

Kobojunkie:
There are merits to this Bill?? Pray tell . . . what the frell are the merits that running for a second term does not currently address??

Most of the criticisms this bill has faced arise from the fact that it is seen as a tenure elongation bill, but what if its not? The other is about the timing which i think could have been better but well, its here now so lets deal with it. Most observers agree that 4years is too short a time for effective governance so why cant we do something about it? What is wrong with reducing an inevitable 4yr circle of violence by 2years and reducing the need for an expensive electoral process like we have?
There's the talk about having the likes of Ohakim and Akala in power for 6yrs - well, that wld be up to us wont it? but if we've got real fears then we should be calling for the removal of the immunity clause for all beneficiaries instead of throwing out the bill without consideration.
The bill may not be perfect as it is but it can be tinkered to become better and I expect a good opposition party to weigh the pros and cons b4 coming out with constructive criticisms instead of echoing the voices of the uninformed in the name of being an opposition party. We deserve better - Yes, even from an opposition party!

Frigging hypocrites seeking to do no more than impress their band of followers by mounting a moral highhorse they r unworthy of saddling. Gej made it absolutely clear that if the bill is passed, he will not in any way be a beneficiary so what's all the fuss about?
If Tinubu and his band are not convinced, they should simply ask for clarification and assurances instead of shouting themselves hoarse in the name of being a gutless opposition that only find their voice when they ought to shut their traps. There are two sides to everything and while i have my reservations about the timing, the merits of this bill far outweigh the demerits and if the fear of the opposition is that the President is seeking to elongate his tenure, then they should compel him to include a clause that excludes him from benefitting instead of making dumb accusations. The worse we can do is to throw away the baby with the bath water. stead of making dumb accusations. The worse we can do is to throw away the baby with the bath water.

collinsfbi:
@wesley80,
If you are looking forward to apply to any school in SA, then the course you wanna apply for will determine the school you will apply to. At the same time, you have to put things like tuition cost, cost of living, accomodation into consideration b4 you apply. What level of programme are you applying for; undergraduate_p or masters_p?

Gbammmmmmm over and out

Like i said, i'm already through with my application process and i'm just waiting for a response. I was told my admission wld be at the discretion of the faculty for certain reasons , i'm employed and it so happens that i'll be in SA in the coming year and i wanted to use the opportunity to run an Msc prog. I do not want to miss out on the admission so i'm considering backing up my initial application but dont have enough info aside the scanty ones i've gathered online. If u know enough about the school pls send a blank mail to my box so i can send in my query. Thanks

@OP,
Sorry but your enquiries r much too technical for meial application but dont have enough info aside the scanty ones i've gathered online. If u know enough about the school pls send a blank mail to my box so i can send in my query. Thanks

@OP,
Sorry but your enquiries r much too technical for me.


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^^^ I'm not actually going there seeking for a job, i've got that aspect pretty much settled and whatever the case, i'll be in the country next year. The admission at Stell is stalling somewhat and i'm thinking of applying somewhere else before all the doors slam shut. The Stell process was straight forward as everything was online and is my first choice but i dont want to risk missing out alltogether.

I guess the only way one can work as a student wld be parttime which allows for about 20hrs in a week and fulltime in between semesters for those carrying a STUDY VISA.

@Collins, i'm heading for *** (not concluded yet though) and would appreciate some first hand info so if u dont mind, i'll  appreciate the contact of your pal that's already out there. If its ok by u pls mail it to ***. Thanks

No need to fight guys, i'm due in SA at the end of the year and i'm using the opportunity to run a prog at one of their uni's so i'm really curious about answers to the other part of the OP's question though i'm a bit certain one cant work fulltime with a visitors visa while a study permit has restrictions on hours of work allowed. So does anyone know better?

Collins is right, the evaluation from SAQA is not a prerequisite for admission - at least not in all schools. It is compulsory for certain schools like Wits and i think UCT but other schools like Stellenbosch and Rhodes which are also top schools do not make it compulsory.
@OP, admission is still open in a number of those schools so dont shut your doors just yet.

lagcity:
I think i speak the minds of all NLanders who aren't ibo when i say that you guys have left a bitter taste in our mouths with this constant b.itching and nagging and namecalling. it makes us want to throw up, very pathetic. smh.

Opinions are changing and views hitherto held as dogmas are being questioned and some (at least from my encounters) are beginning to recognize and admit the failures and shortcomings of even some of our most iconic leaders, so pls show some respect when u talk about an entire people. Generalizing wld be equal to assuming all SWners act like your annoying roach called Ileke.

@fork addict
You funny sha. Karen as minisiterial wetin? Lol. I just watched her chat session and she openly admitted to masturbating when asked what was the stupiddest thing she had done in the house, she said 'i'm human and i'll get Hot, it was stupid but worth it! Lol
And the shocker, she just revealed she was married for 5 years, 'i got married for the wrong reason and divorced for the right reason' she said she wouldnt tell us why cos it might affect, now does that sound like someone that gives a hoot about being a ministerial nominee? Abeg talk another thing.

EzeUche:
Any Igbo who bashes his own people is considered a hero to you all. But an efulefu to the rest of us.

Pls shut it. I'll not be judged by a hypocrite. For the record I justified nothing other than point out that an Igbo coup (deny it all you like) was bound to trigger a COUNTER COUP esp when our own political leaders where left unharmed and we as a people wld have responded if same had been done to us. Of course u and your band of supremacists are skilled in the use of sophistry to obscure the truth so naturally that equates to justifying the death of hundreds of thousands in your water filled skulls.

[quote author=Chyz* link=topic=482611.msg8779473#msg8779473 date=1311520584]blah,blah,blah. why not factor in who and of what ethnic group, killed those premiers or top persons from the other region. Why not ask yourself why the counter-coup failed in the East just like the original coup did?[/quote]They were killed in C K Nzeogwu's coup, does it matter who pulled the trigger? And if your argument is that Nzeogwu isnt Igbo, then neither are you.
I was in JS 2 when I read Capt Ben Gbulie's Nigeria's 5 Majors and even then i knew the excuse for not harming Eastern leaders were at best escapist so if u're going to give an excuse like 'we could not harm him cos he had a visitor from Cyprus(not even J F Kennedy!), you'd better look for someone daft enough to buy it.

^^^ bla, bla, bla. Why not factor in Zik, Michael Okpara, Akanu Ibiam and Ojukwu being killed in one swoop then come here and tell me about 'safe passage' for the perpetrators.