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Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Nakked Or He Also Wears Cloth? by winner01(m): 7:14pm On Apr 02, 2018
Now this is one obsessed fellow. Go get a life dude...
Christianity Etc › Re: Life Is Meaningless I Need An Exit by winner01(m): 7:09pm On Apr 02, 2018
Iliveforme:
I need some time to read through the thread you posted.
Take all the time you want.
Christianity Etc › Re: Life Is Meaningless I Need An Exit by winner01(m):
I've seen a similar thread on this section from an atheist and I was amazed how other atheists were trying to beat their idea of meaning into the poor young man who was suicidal at the time. So i can also relate with this @Iliveforme. I once opened a thread for this.

https://www.nairaland.com/3246389/atheism-bold-representative-futility-hopelessness

You're right, though some attach happiness to several things like jobs, family etc. If truly there was no purpose to life, we quickly discover that its all to no end. You're right, it doesn't matter if we have kids or not, if else fail or pass. Like someone once told me, suicide is the only way out of this horrible world.

This is true for some and a big lie to many like me, this is not all there is to life, I believed in a lie for a long time. This can't be everything. It makes no sense for me to live and just die and then someone else will tell me to be glad I've lived. Its irrational.

I questioned reality and this is why I've been able to reach a reasonable conclusion.

I want to let you know for sure that the existence of life itself is supernatural, it makes no sense why we should exist in the first place.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/5909250_img8162_jpega449fdec5674e7900a8abc4d01b71616

Many people have tried to explain away the mystery of the existence of life using "scientific" theories, but after years of inaccuracies, this mystery still stares at us.

The first fact I realized in my journey to faith was that: "If existence is supernatural, then that changes everything", " if I was put here, then this can't be my final destination when I'm no longer here", "if nothing in this world can satisfy me, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world"...

You can read up one of my threads: https://www.nairaland.com/3321793/atheisms-universe-little-indian-parable

You can also email me, let's discuss better.


Let me wait for dalaman, Ranchhoddas, johnydon22, cutemadridsta, superhumanist, frank317, realmindz, TayserMahiri, Martinez19 etc to come and beat their subjective ideas of purpose into this honest poor atheist grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by winner01(m): 6:36pm On Apr 02, 2018
realmindz:
it's hard to believe that majority live in false hood...lifes a pyramid, majority are ignorant. .
Prove it!!!


realmindz:
So I am glad to be among the 2% who have dared to question your gods.
I don't see you questioning any other gods, I don't think you concern yourself with lies grin

realmindz:
But is it not unfortunate that either you pretended not to understand my points or you are just so intellectually challenged that you couldn't comprehend....
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Of course, I need to understand your points, else I'm "intellectually challenged".

You're raving mad with no one to tell you.

realmindz:
It's so straight forward, if you cant believe that all tortoise in the world today have rough shells as said in the folk tale, then why do u believe that all snakes in the world today crawl because a snake was cursed sometimes ago by a god? Your education should be questioned...otherwise you have a serious psychological issue...
I can believe the story of a tortoise if its not just hearsay, if I examine the record and find it to be credible, if I examine the historical sites and characters and find them to be true, If I examine the empirical consistency and logical claims. Snakes were not cursed by god you dumb thing, serpents are not snakes. You're just an angry helpless fool who is feeling angry from his indoctrinations. When you calm down and examine those claims, you'll see what you need to see.

realmindz:
I cant seem to understand the depth of your delusions. And even for a man in 2018 to believe that pains of child birth is a result of a curse by a god....this is close to insanity.
Belief in God is native to all generations of humanity because the greatest vivid supernatural occurence of all times is the existence of life on this planet. Its only rational that most people believe that that if a 5mp Samsung camera has a designer, then the 574mp human eye could not have arose by chance or naturally blind processes.

I believe that the evil in the world is as a result of Gods curse, kill yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Slavery in the Bible: answers for Christians and the atheist dilemma by winner01(op): 6:23pm On Apr 02, 2018
TayserMahiri:
Yeah, most species thrive on empathy. To take care of their young, close relatives in packs etc. I know that sounds like rocket science.
Most species thrive on empathy and this is what you think the basis for morality is?

If morality is based on ethics, does that not mean your subjective experience (which differs from mine) is the basis for your ethical behavior?

What is the universal standard of what is proper empathy and what is not?

Or if you propose collective empathy, what if what one person says is proper empathy does not agree with another person? So what happens then?

TayserMahiri:
You do know God (Yahweh) isnt that old? He is barely 3000 years old. Unless you provide contrary evidence. I thought it was standard practice to use G o d in reference to Yahweh and god for all others unless you are saying they are all equal, in which case I totally agree because it is true.
Stop messing around, you referred to a time when no one ever dreamt of God, Jesus, mohammed , Allah etc, and I'm putting it to you that when was this time when humanity was void of a belief in the supernatural?

TayserMahiri:
Which god gives this god-given morality? Is it RA, Tenjin, Shiva, Yemoja? Which one?
Many of your friends don't like to play the 5000+ gods card with me because they already know my response. The God that gives you headache, that gives you sleepless nights. The God that prompted your reply on this thread.

I see people all over the world who die for a certain god, they abduct girls, blow up buildings and threaten sovereign nations because of this god (even our country Nigeria), I see next to no threads on this god neither do I see atheists trying to convince the followers of this god which otherwise may be easily brainwashed into being terrorists. Does this mean atheists don't concern themselves with a lie? undecided



TayserMahiri:
When people want to kill, they will kill regardless. In fact they will justify it with God in some cases. And the good book comes in handy in such situations. Its even worse when they know they will just repent. But since you know very well that if you kill you will go to jail, or be killed in revenge. You will be less likely to kill. Did you just agree with the fact that logic plays the major role in such a scenario and religion is just secondary (joyrider) in the highlighted part? I bet you did
of course people will kill for their own interests if they know they will get away with it.

You're missing the point here, what is the basis for these man-made laws?.

You think its logical for those who embezzle government funds to pay dearly for it, and we have many embezzlers in Nigeria. Why do you think its wrong to embezzle? Is this empathy playing a role? Do you realize your idea of empathy may differ from that of an average Nigerian politician?
Christianity Etc › Re: Slavery in the Bible: answers for Christians and the atheist dilemma by winner01(op): 11:16pm On Mar 31, 2018
TayserMahiri:
The idea that humans are born naturally evil (and can only be moral if they become christians) is one of the more freaky things Christianity teaches.
Bullshit!. No reasonable religion even teaches this. Y'all just cook up stupid things to feel good. Did I not mention in the op that several atheists are even more moral than Christians?

TayserMahiri:
Some people like the OP, if they stopped believing for just one minute, would start raping and killing people. The truth is that even in the most christianless societies there is morality. You dont need any god to be moral. NONE. Even a 2 yr old child who has no idea who God is can tell that certain things are wrong. Even if you took a group of children (who have not heard about God) and left them in an island, they would not start killing each other. They would establish their own moral standards without God (or Satan)
Morality is innate, god-given. Something that DNA, bones and all our biological make-up can't provide.
No one would kill anyone because they don't want to kill anyone. The problem arises when people want to kill people, then you realize that both you and the killer have equal rights to act in your personal interests, in this "inconsequential universe".
Christianity Etc › Re: Slavery in the Bible: answers for Christians and the atheist dilemma by winner01(op): 11:07pm On Mar 31, 2018
TayserMahiri:
Everyone in some way is indoctrinated with morality thats why we tend to have moral standards of where we were born. This has been the case for millenia before anyone dreamt of God, Jesus, Allah, Mohammed etc. Even 30,000 yrs ago it was still the same. Its about empathy (mostly) and logic. Religion is just a joyrider that wants to take credit for something that nature itself demands of any species to succeed.
Nature demands empathy for any species to succeed?

When was this time before anyone dreamt of God? You do know belief in some form of God is as old as humanity itself?
Christianity Etc › Re: Slavery in the Bible: answers for Christians and the atheist dilemma by winner01(op): 4:57pm On Mar 31, 2018
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Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by winner01(m): 3:27pm On Mar 31, 2018
realmindz:
I like when someone responds to my post this way because it shows you have nothing to say....plenty of words from you at the end nothing was addressed other than self aggrandizement...many words but zero meaning. Sorry bro, not everyone can be fooled and rub your ego in ignorance....arent you disappointed in yourself that you can no longer defend your beliefs since it's completely nonsensical
You don craze o. You wanted me to respond to tortoise and its hard shell or what?

What's hard to believe in the supernatural since I believe in a supernatural God undecided

And what do you mean by not everyone can be fooled, you dunces constitute around 2% of the world's population and y'all believe that you're the custodians of truth grin

I was once like you don't worry, now I know better, my eyes are open.
Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by winner01(m): 11:59am On Mar 31, 2018
realmindz:
You know the story of how Tortoise's shell became rough?


Well long ago in the animal kingdom, there was a famine and all animals killed their mother for food. The dog kept his on a tree and from there got fed from time to time. Tortoise discovered this and sang the same song the dog sang to get up the tree. On getting to the top, dog's mother discovered it was tortoise then dropped him from the tree. Tortoise survived the fall but his shell was broken, however, snail his friend helped him patch his shell but it wasn't perfectly done....Hence all tortoises in the world till date have rough shells....



Now compare this to the story of how snake was cursed to start crawling and then all snakes in the world today crawl because of what happened years ago in the garden of Eden.


Believing this folk tale and as an explanation for a snake, reptile, crawling is a disgrace to your logic and education....

You can use all the consolations and self motivations in the world to defend your delusions but the fact still remains, you are arrogantly shamefully deluded
I'm sure I'm much more educated than you are dude, without even knowing you.

Folk take or not, examining the claims of the Bible has put me where I am. I'm was not always a a bible believing Christian. Im sorry bro, the Bible sounds to good to be false.
Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by winner01(m): 10:19am On Mar 31, 2018
realmindz:
wow, you proved in your last thread that Christianity existed in Africa before colonisation?? winner01, proving the impossible is indeed a rare gift. keep it up.

winner01 the jew, blessed son of Noah
Are you okay? Or don't you know your way to google again?

Can't you read for once, how did Christianity find its way to Ethiopia which was not conquered by slave traders? How did African bishops find their way to the council of Nicea centuries before the slave trade?
Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by winner01(m): 10:07am On Mar 31, 2018
realmindz:
it's simple psychology, a man's delusions tend to fight back once threatened to restore him satisfied to his initial state of delusions...


And yes he is right, it is insane for anyone to believe childish myths of talking walking snakes and that your ancestors and saviours are jews....it is a slave mentality
The only difference is "his initial state of delusion" might not be the delusion after all.

And what do you mean by Jewish myths, a talking snake etc. The supernatural is believable if a supernatural God exists.

And Christianity is not a slave mentality, I proved on my last thread that Christianity existed in Africa centuries before the transatlantic slave trade.
Christianity Etc › Re: Childless Couples Should Stop This. by winner01(m): 10:56pm On Mar 30, 2018
Martinez19:
It's wrong and misleading to tell people to believe, hope and wait for a child from a god that doesn't exist while there are children in orphanage homes suffering.
My aunt adopted and hoped for 10 years before she eventually had a son.
Christianity Etc › Re: Most Dangerous Post On Nairaland by winner01(m): 10:54pm On Mar 30, 2018
obinna58:
This made me remember the first heartbreaking post I saw on nl when I was a hardcore religionist
"how can someone believe that a man from Israel died to save the world" shocked
I was mad for days
Lol, I felt the same way too when my uncle told me God is a lie. I wish I could slap sense into his head. I started reading all materials I could find supporting and refuting the existence of God. Today, I just smile and tell critics, I've heard this one before. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Nuisance, Barcelona And Chelsea by winner01(op): 10:06pm On Mar 30, 2018
Martinez19:
mtewwwww. These men are clergy and a lot of their followers are scattered across the religious section, exposing their lifestyle and criticism of their supposed miracles are vital in showing the followers of these thieves that these men are charlatans and their religion is false. Besides, any time we criticise them, it's usually in relation to a topic concerning them or during an argument to make a valid point. Messi is no clergy or religious organisation. Messi's fans, unlike the clergymen's followers, follow Messi for his footballing prowess not his faith. We atheist don't need to criticise Messi for his goal celebration to debunke religion. We already have sufficient arguments.

Anything else?
So is this thread about Messi's celebration? You didn't read through the thread, you just prefer to disgrace yourself undecided

Are you normal? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Nuisance, Barcelona And Chelsea by winner01(op): 7:43pm On Mar 30, 2018
Martinez19:
is it that you don't think or what? Somebody scored a goal and thank god at camp Nou, Barcelona, Spain and you expect us, in Nigeria, on a faceless forum on nairaland to attack him? Messi is not probably on nairaland and won't see our posts so what's the point?
You're an animal.

So CAN president, Apostle Suleiman, south African snake pastor, hypo pastor etc are on nairaland and they can see your threads of mockery shey?

Also considering that most atheists have sued almost anything remotely God, why didn't they take the fight to camp nou? Or is spain also a "deluded" country like Nigeria.

You're an animal.

Martinez19:
We attack you theists on nairaland where you can see it, respond or learn or if it relates to the topic. Damn, you never think.
You only attack theists who can see, respond or learn from your attacks shey?

Do you want me to give you proof of your madness? undecided


Martinez19:
HopefulLandord, dalaman, hahn, sheybebabe, fegelfire, hahn, 1Sharon, 0temSapien, adepeter2027, segunojo866, Ladyhippolyta88 etc. You guys should have a look at winner01
They have had a good look at many of my threads and they know its best to stay away from them just like this thread.
But you've decided to make a fool of yourself undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 7:31pm On Mar 30, 2018
Butterflyleo:
This is one thing about them that even they fail to see. They claim God doee not exist yet this "imaginary" God somehow finds a way to still afflict them with headaches and sleepless nights. Talk about a mental disorder.
Real mental disorder oo. It's just ironic.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 7:30pm On Mar 30, 2018
vaxx:
Superhumanist why do you not create a thread that will address humanity as your moniker suggest instead of looking forward to downgrade religion, they are good topic out there. for example, abortion, poverty, illiteracy and so many more.
Superhumanist is obsessed with the God he claims does not exist, and to think he wants christians to keep repeating the same arguments undecided

Funny enough I've answered both his questions on other threads. I remember answering his second question on this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/3286163/did-moses-see-god-timothy

Superhumanist, do we have to keep repeating ourselves undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 7:25pm On Mar 30, 2018
Dalamama:
In what part of the bible does it day that beating a slave is punishable by death.
Read my last thread thoroughly.

Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 7:23pm On Mar 30, 2018
Dalamama:
Ogbeni, when people were primitive and barbaric Yahweh was there with them issuing out babaric laws and telling them to stone their disobedient children to death was what I said. I don't have time for your shameless gimmicks.

Here is Jesus berating the people for refusing to follow Yahweh's injunction on stoning children to death m

8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”
9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
Mark 7:8-13
Give me examples of people stoning their children to death.

And how is the verse you are quoting explaining how Jesus asked people to stone their children? undecided. You are an animal.

Read, read you won't read. Here is Jesus stance on the law of moses. Its all in my last thread.

Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 6:04pm On Mar 30, 2018
superhumanist:
Keep telling this lie and I will quote the bible passage that debunks you;

Exodus 21:20-21 New International Version (NIV)
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.
I discussed this effectively in my thread. Read that thread.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 5:54pm On Mar 30, 2018
superhumanist:
I know that you are not intelligent enough to understand a "hypothetical argument". Move along.
Desperation no go kill you. A God that "does not exist" dey give you headache.

Continu...
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 5:50pm On Mar 30, 2018
Dalamama:
Beating a slave according to your lies is punishable by death but according to Yahweh it was allowed. Only when the slave dies the same day is it punishable by death. If he dies a day or two after nothing will happen to the slave owner.
Beating a slave was punishable by death.

In other civilizations at the time, such laws were not in place to protect slaves.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 5:49pm On Mar 30, 2018
hahn:
How about god is imaginary? smiley
No proof, its fine though. Anything that rocks your boat man smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 5:48pm On Mar 30, 2018
Butterflyleo:
A piece of rock is smarter than that guy.
As in eh...
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 5:33pm On Mar 30, 2018
Dalamama:
Shut up! Yahweh was busy giving injunction on how people were to stone their disobedient children to death when the people were primitive and barbaric.


If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid. -Deuteronomy 21:18-21

In the gospels Jesus himself berated the people for refusing to obey that barbaric injunction.
Oya give me example of people who stoned their children to death.

Also give example for Jesus berating people for refusing to obey.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 5:24pm On Mar 30, 2018
CuteMadridista:
Christianity is a ridiculous religion full of nonsense that can only be believed by the naive or wilfully dishonest or someone influenced by herd mentality
a large percentage of the world has Ben influenced by heard mentality.

Don't worry, only atheists are custodians of truth grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God Merely A Spirit? Or Is He Both Spirit And Flesh? by winner01(m): 5:22pm On Mar 30, 2018
superhumanist:
I predicted that butterflylion will get caught in his web of lies and lo and behold, it has come to pass.


Note how he has lied so much and now he has contradicted himself;


1. He claims that God is only spirit (not flesh and not physical) but yet he believes that Jesus (who lived and died as a man) is God.

2. He claims that Jesus is not a fleshy being but yet he agrees that Jesus was flesh and blood.





cc hahn, winner01, hopefullandlord, dalaman, dalamama, capslocked, 1stsonoflucifer, adepeter2027, cutemadridsta
If you truly believe that God does not exist, how can you even begin to discuss if God is flesh and blood or a spirit? undecided

Dey swear for you? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 5:07pm On Mar 30, 2018
superhumanist:
Slavery was ethical in ancient times? Slaves that were sacrificed to ancient gods? Slaves that were worked to death? Slaves that were forced into wars? Slaves that were used as cannon fodder?

Please, do not reproduce. We already have enough foolishness in this country
Did you not see where I said that the economic and legal positions regarding slavery varied amongst nation, cultures and religion?

You really think slavery began with the bible don't you?

All the nonsense you're talking about are not found in the BIble.

Christians also rose up to rid the world of slavery.

Just read my last thread and educate yourself na grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Thank God For Slavery- A Case Of Religion Turning Blacks To Fools by winner01(m): 5:04pm On Mar 30, 2018
superhumanist:
You and your brother are born from the same root of lies. You are natural liars.


Beating a slave is allowed in the bible. Stop telling lies.
Beating a slave was punishable by death. Read my last thread and stop being a bigot.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheistic Nuisance, Barcelona And Chelsea by winner01(op): 4:46pm On Mar 30, 2018
How come I didn't see dalaman, martinez19, Fegelfire, Budaatum. Sheybebabe and other all knowing, logical, rational and scientific custodians of truth on this thread undecided grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Atheist's Mind Free Enough To Question Atheism? by winner01(op): 4:40pm On Mar 30, 2018
superhumanist:
With that logic, I'm sure that you are the kind of person that will bathe in shite if your opponent bathes in urine to become unapproachable
Invalid

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