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That stupid dalaman will ignore this thread.

superhumanist:
ogbeni, check this thread-

https://www.nairaland.com/4433729/life-more-meaningless-god


and see why your life is more meaningless with God

Even after your thread, life is still meaningful only with God.

On

superhumanist:
Why are you just trying to be silly and dishonest?

Those links you put have nothing to do with the piraha tribe. You used the links to cover the fact is that your whole argument against the piraha tribe is based on a biased Reddit post.


Had you even bothered to scroll down the Reddit thread you linked to, you would have seen comments explaining that


1. The Piraha tribe have no concept of god.

2. The Piraha tribe are more like animists who assign anthropomorphic natures to things that they can see. The use of 'spirits' from a western understanding does not really capture their culture.


Please, don't quote me. You are not ready for a honest debate.

That was from an atheist forum and by an atheist but it doesn't even matter.

Every scholar who has studied them have alluded to the fact that they believe in spirits. I remember Johnydon mentioning them in my thread "the origin of unclothedness", and despite the fact that this is only example referred to by atheists, all written literature points to the fact that they believe in abstract spiritual beings, they believe in the supernatural. If you think other wise, then give me proof other than just your claims.

superhumanist:
The Piraha tribe

Lol. I didn't have to go too far. They believe in the supernatural?

Belief in God or the supernatural is natural to humans. Humans are naturally predisposed to believe.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386533/Belief-religion-simply-universal-human-nature.html
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/12/religious-belief-is-human-nature-huge-new-study-claims/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8510711/Belief-in-God-is-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html

Butterflyleo:
The evidence is "being sincere and honest to yourself based on a genuine desire to know". Something a lot of you atheists in Nigeria are not. You all lie to yourselves and come together to console yourselves on the lies you tell each other forgetting that when atheist A dies he will die alone and so will you and the one who deceived you into atheism today can change and become a believer tomorrow while you in ignorance continue wallowing in your lies which you hold as truth and only have yourself to blame eventually.

Be following herd mentality here on nairaland. Follow the thought train of fellow atheists who do not give a damn about you and whose paths you would leave some day. When the time comes you will know if because you saw a tortoise swimming with sharks it means you a monkey should do the same. Your eye go clear soon.

Exactly why I'm asking what he would consider evidence.
Its a waste of time cos no amount of evidence will convince an atheist. Only God himself can.

enilove:
It is an agent of darkness that derives joy in pulling down the church of God.

If you are a better christian , go out there and help the lost souls and not post things that would discredit the churches and increase souls going to hell.

Don't forget :

Matthew 12:35-36 KJV
A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
[36] But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Stop doing the work of the devil for the devil.

Really you need not comment on such threads. It was interesting before you came along. Let them create threads of mockery and mock all they want, its interesting to see that several Christians ignore threads such as this. Let them create, analyze and decide what they think Christianity is. Your comment won't change them, only God will. So next time pal, just ignore.

Dalam0n:
I have the right to come to the religion section and challenge your beliefs the way you do to others. I knew when all you do here is mock the muslims and let them know that your religion is superior to theirs.

I'm not here to challenge anyone's belief but to discuss Christianity with Christians, however when I saw that atheists derail almost every christian thread, I took it upon myself to expose some of the irrationality of atheism and its really been effective. For instance, I don't think any atheist on nairaland will ever claim that "religion has been the major cause of deaths in history". they know better.

I have Muslims as family members and why would I dwell on this section just to mock muslims, I can engage with a tensed spat with a Muslim but its simply about 2 theists searching for truth on the supernatural.
What the hell is your mission here? To mock daily and fervently the same God you claim not to believe in?

Get a life.

Dalam0n:
You don't only share your beliefs you mock that of others and condemn them. Cry not when a taste of yir own medicine is given to you.
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Can you give me 10 instances of me mocking other beliefs and I'll easily give you 100 instances you mocking other peoples beliefs. You're free to give me instances of me mocking atheism if you think atheism is a belief .

I can engage with a Muslim on a religion section and of course it can get illogical, I do this with my cousins a lot. Once again, its between two theists seeking for answers on the supernatural?
What is an atheist looking for on a religion section day and night?

You last 100 posts have majorly been an attack on one Christian or the other and you think you're not sick in the head

Dalam0n:
I am very much at peace with myself more than you are with yourself in fact. You believe and worship your imaginationsand the imaginations others have set out for you. The thing is you believe that those that do not accept your delusions are not at oece because they keep selling you the lies that only those that subcribe to your bubble of delusion are at peace with themselves.

I really doubt that you're at peact with yourself. You seem like you're still feeling the shackles of your "indoctrination".

If I believe in imaginations, abeg shey na your imagination? What's really is your problem?

You really need some peace and calm in that mind of yours.
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Dalam0n:
Because something is natural to man doesn't make it true. Crying is natural, so is sexual urge, response to stimuli and hunger for example, all these things are natural to man..

Oga, Crying is True...Sexual Urge is True...Hunger is true...These are true, natural and real life occurrences and just like religion, you can't take it away from humanity.
As regards religion, people can be guided on the right path. This is why you will find me, a religious person, in a religious section.
I still don't know why an atheist will spend all his days, on a religion section, mocking religious people. You need to open your eyes and see what you're doing.

Dalam0n:
Human imaginations is natural and a part of our nature and it is this imaginations that gave birth to all religions and Gods. Human beings had to invent God's for various reasons because the God hypothesis helped them in a variety of ways. The God hypothesis has been used to serve as an explanation to them, it has been used to ally their fears, used to make them obey and conform to society codes of conduct, used to give them a sense of identity and cohesion, used by the elites to consolidate power etc..

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If the atheists mind is free, why use the same damn arguments which has been severally parroted by atheist high priests?
If this what they told you about God?
Don't worry, majority of the world's population will continue to have commonsense.
Commonsense tells majority of humans on earth that if a 5mp Samsung camera has a creator, then the 574mp human eye must definitely have a Creator.

Such humans can now build on commonsense to examine claims and existential relevancies of individual religion in order to reach for the truth. This is why majority will continue to be religious.

So you see, you'll be angry for a long time

Dalam0n:
Because humans have used their imaginations to invent God for various reasons doesn't mean it's true, even if the ideas and imaginations are natural to men.

You say humans have used their imaginations to invent god but give no proof. When you make positive statements, you must give proof for such statements else you're just handwaving.

Religion is natural to humanity, atheism is alien to humanity. In the search for the true God, humanity will continue to be religious.

You'll really be angry for a long, long time.

TayserMahiri:
There is nothing like universal standard for empathy or morality. That is your construct. Think of it this way, there is a capsizing ship with many people including you, two of your younger sisters and your friend. You have just one life bag that can only carry three of you. If you were four guys, one MUST DIE. (its a hypothetical situation dont start telling me no they can all live). Three is the maximum number beyond which the bag is useless. So, as the elder one, you somehow gotta make the decision. I know you'd choose yourself, and your two sisters and let the friend die. That thing that would make you do that is not religion but subjective empathy. And it varies from person to person. Some people like me would choose to die and save both sisters and the friend. Its SUBJECTIVE. In fact, religion is a subjective experience. If for some reason I survive the capsizing boat (I was to drown, remember) and the reason for my survival is that a shark (or dolphin) saved my ass, I would see it as empathy from the shark while you would see it as a miracle straight from heaven. Why for me? Because the same lord who reached down from heaven had the synergy to save everyone on the ship by sending a thousand sharks to rescue everyone, but he didnt! So, its luck on my part, and an extremely bad day for the ones who drown.

Away from the drowning

Belief in a supernatural power is not universal. Check out online. Some tribes had no gods untill recently when Yahweh and Allah were pushed down their throats.

No lying, I dont like to talk so much about Allah because his fans (followers) are some of the most barbaric in this world. In fact, the most barbaric, they can blow you up or cut your throat. But I also dont spare them, look at my signature, thats a jab straight at them. Here, christianity and christians get the props for being reasonable. But not all, some are jerks, esp the ones who oppose science as part of their religious duty.

In the last part about corruption, thats why I said that empathy is subjective. You know why? Because I think that embezzlers should be shot. Like in China. But your religion is against capital punishment and so what happens? Leaders steal and when neccesary get saved so that they fool you to forget it, they know they cant get killed anyway and if you suggest they get killed, they will point you to the bible. . It also happens in Kenya, whereby even Indians embezle public funds (billions) then get saved and become pastors. Remember they are Hindus but they know Africans are a gullible lot.

Can you give me examples of tribes that had no gods UNTIL YAHWEH AND ALLAH WERE FORCED DOWN THEIR THROATS?

And where do you guys get your ideas, a government ordering the capital punishment is not in contrast with the Bible and I won't even discuss it with you.

You people cook up some B.S cos y'all angry you didn't enjoy your childhood or your parents forcefed you Christianity.

lilliesboy:
An imbec*le like you can never correct me, not when you have not even corrected your blissful stupidity. If you don't know what irreligion or secularism is than your brain is as dead as the god you believe in.

You are just calling me names, I don't know why you're so angry. Calm down.

I'm simply asking you, is irreligion/secularism the same as atheism? Answer that and let me deal with you.

Dalam0n:
That's all you do here. A simple look at your post says all you do here is promote your God and tey to convince others that do not believe in his existence that he exist. You always try to explain his positions and even try to explain why he does certain things or let's somethings happen. You tell people that he loves them and other enticing things( you tey to toast people for your God) . You do that and many more. That's all you do here.

There is a reason why men have invented many different God ideas(your own God inclusive ) over the years and there are many reasons why these man made and invented God ideas have gained traction amongst many different groups and cultures over time.

I have the right to come on a religion section and share my belief. What have you come here to do? Certainly not to spread atheism but to ridicule and mock Christians. It shows you are really struggling to find peace with the new you, seeing the way you do this devoutely.


Men have invented many God ideas because belief in God or the supernatural is innate, its biological. This might be enough proof to the unbiased that reality is not all there is. One way to try to know what version of the supernatural is factual is to first admit that machines humans can never self assemble and therefore must require a maker. Then you can continue to examine certain claims and evidences. The only thing you do is to mock and ridicule anything remotely christian. I think you need a therapist or something, you sound very hurt.

Here is the reason why you can never separate a belief in God or the supernatural from humanity:

Religion is a part of the human nature
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386533/Belief-religion-simply-universal-human-nature.html
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/12/religious-belief-is-human-nature-huge-new-study-claims/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/8510711/Belief-in-God-is-part-of-human-nature-Oxford-study.html


Atheism is alien to humanity bro, no amount of anger or vituperation or vain philosophy or intellectual gymnastics or pseudoscience will change that.

Dalam0n:
OP has failed totally in his failed attempts to prove that his God exist.

Winner01, if your God exist in reality you won't have to write meaningless, hopeless and unconvincing epistles on its behalf or in other to castigate atheists and atheism. He'll simply do that himself. The fact that you spend time defending, promoting and speaking on behalf of an alleged all mighty God that exists, can do all things and WANTS everybody to know about his existence (including atheist and other un-believers that belong to other religions or even other sects ) and engage him in a personal relationship shows that you are worshipping nothing but your own made up imaginations. That is the fact of the matter.

NO God that truly exist as you advartise will depend on you to make any case on its behalf. Only the God that exist inside your head and delusions will do that.

You've been saying this since 2016...I'm not here to debate the existence of God to you or anyone.

No one is here to argue with you on the subject of Gods existence. You are the one who dwells on a religious section all the days of your life, to mock and ridicule religious people. There are obvious reasons atheism has gained very low traction throughout all history of humanity.

superhumanist:
Winner01, I must say that I'm impressed. For once in your life, you tried a balanced view on the subject matter. Thanks for that.


Imagine if we throw two babies in the jungle to grow up with animals like Tarzan. Those two babies would never grow up to be christian. They could be pagans or atheists but never christians or muslims or judaists.


Food for thought.

Point, everything is learnt. Good or Bad must be learnt else Tarzan might not think its too wrong to kill one or two of his babies for food in time of famine. This has happened very well in the history of humanity.

If two kids are thrown to the jungle away from civilization and all ideologies, sooner or later, one of them will look up to the sky and wonder what is out there.


One thing Tarzan will try to understand is that there is more to this world than meets the eye, and such Tarzan will try to reach for the supernatural by either creating his own religious practice or rites. He could worship the sun, moon, trees or just anything he deems superior, just like many African ancestors and several humans throughout history. We must however teach him like Jesus and his disciples did to many humans how he can reach accurately for the supernatural. Good things must be learnt, science must be learnt, Christianity as well as atheism too is also learnt.

In places where belief in God or the supernatural is forcefully taken from the masses, the masses will find something else to believe, like the government.

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Belief in the supernatural is innate to man. Its biological.

This thread was inspired by another thread which seems to be a debate on whether atheism or Christianity is as a result of indoctrination.

https://www.nairaland.com/4136342/atheism-vs-christianity-which-one

As expected, many atheists affirmed with confidence that Christianity is as a result of indoctrination, while atheism is the neutral worldview. In the thread above. My brother Butterflyleo tried to explain that indoctrination simply means to teach and this means we are (indoctrinated) taught almost everything we know, including christianity, science and even atheism. The atheists rejected the dictionary meaning of indoctrination probably because it implicated science and atheism. It seemed like their opinions was based on the fact that indoctrination has to do with only beliefs or religion, and that atheism can't be as a result of indoctrination because its more like the default position.




Indeed, many atheists claim that atheism is the default position. In other words, they claim that when persons are born, they are naturally atheists; and that it is only through indoctrination that they become theists.
This claim is evident in almost all circles of atheism. Below are some of the replies of some atheists when asked if atheism is the default position:


1. Yes atheism is the default position
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2. Tabula rasa: This simply means blank state. While conceding that children are born with their brains blank, nothing in their brains, this atheist seems to suggest that a "lack of belief" is equal to nothing.
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3. Yes atheism is the default position: if you think otherwise, you're irrational.
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4. Atheism cannot be taught
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Not all atheists are bigots though, a few of them give objective observation a chance. Below are some examples of such atheists in response to the same question:

5. Atheism is learnt
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6. Fantastic question
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7. Well, Just some honest atheist
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The claim that "atheism is the default position" is therefore nothing more than an unsubstantiated opinion upon which an atheist wants to build an argument that atheism is somehow valid or superior or natural. How does an atheist know that people are not hardwired to believe in God? How does an atheist know that children don't naturally believe in God and have to be taught not to believe in God? People believe in things without really understanding why, and often times they're surprised at what they do believe in naturally. So, does this not show a natural disposition to belief.

Atheism is not the default position, the default position is nothing. To be an atheist you must first become aware of the concept of gods to reject them either consciously or unconsciously. To disbelieve in something you must first acquire knowledge.


If we were to accept that atheism is the default position then we must also accept that anti-science is the default position of all humans, since no one is born with an innate knowledge of science but this too would be nonsense. Those who reject different forms of science must first learn of the science to reject it and be anti-science. Likewise an atheist must learn of the concept of God to disbelieve or reject his existence and to declare themselves as an atheist with an understanding of what that means to be atheist.

To quote the atheist Voltaire on this who himself was responding to this assertion that atheism was the default position centuries ago:

"Bayle says, in his "Thoughts on the Comets," that there are atheist peoples. The Caffres, the Hottentots, the Topinambous, and many other small nations, have no God: they neither deny nor affirm; they have never heard speak of Him; tell them that there is a God: they will believe it easily; tell them that everything happens through the nature of things; they will believe you equally. To claim that they are atheists is to make the same imputation as if one said they are anti-Cartesian; they are neither for nor against Descartes. They are real children; a child is neither atheist nor deist, he is nothing."

Atheism with not being the default position is then just like any other philosophical position: it too has its point to prove and it fails to do that. It is a position whose only recourse is to attempt to disprove theism which is something it has failed to do since its creation as a philosophical school of thought.


Meanwhile theism has many philosophical arguments on its own that it gains without having to attack a rival position. These arguments all being backed by not just observational reasoning but also scientific principles (i.e causality and the First Cause argument - that all things begun must have a cause and did not simply begin from nothing as an atheistic philosophy teaches). Atheism meanwhile is not backed by any observational reasoning or science and hinges desperately on attempting to disprove theism to prove itself but it simply cannot do that.

Atheists cite "lack of observable evidence" of God being physically observable as their argument for atheism being true not realizing the intellectual folly of this line of thought. The universe having an beginning and the finely tuned mathematical proprieties of the universe (something agreed upon by all physicists) both point to a creator as the common sense answer and indeed, science itself, although not by empirical evidence but statistical probability and observational evidence, would vindicate this.

Although we cannot see God physically, the fact that the universe exist is enough to tell us that he exists, the same way that a painting tells us that a painter existed who painted the picture. Atheists scoff, arguing the universe can simply "come from nothing" not needing a creator but the chance of mindless nothingness achieving the finely tuned proprieties behind the universe is simply impossible as too many variables would have to be met in an exact order, something that we have never seen achieved in nature by mindless force. While atheists argue that "given infinite time, monkeys randomly hitting keys on typewriters would replicate the entire works of Shakespeare" the logic behind this "infinite monkey theorem" fails to take into account the factor of organization. What would organize these works and who gave the monkeys typewriters in the first place? The infinite monkey theorem is a fantastical hypothesis and is not testable by science, further more the idea of a universe from nothing is contrary to both empirical science and simple logic.


Physics try to explainsl to us how the universe came into existence (The Big Bang theory and the initial singularity) but not where all matter originated from. Despite the best attempts of dishonest atheists to prove that "matter can originate from nothingness" this is something that has simply never been seen and is neither testable by scientific method or observational and so this idea is anti-scientific. Atheists cite examples of particles "appearing from nothing" out of the vacuum of space and by doing so prove that they are illiterate in physics, as the vacuum of space is not "nothingness" with it containing dark energy, neutrinos, gamma ways as well as numerous other elements and energies. What we observe with observational science and what philosophy tell us is that everything with a beginning must have a cause and that at one point, there had to be an eternal cause with no prior beginning. There cannot be an infinite regress of self-creating universes as other atheists argue as an infinite regress has no beginning and without an ultimate beginning, there is no initiation and therefore nothing would exist. At this point to either believe in something from nothing or an infinite regress would not just be having blind faith but to reject scientific law, observational evidence and logic. This is why atheism fails to be a coherent worldview whereas theism is agreeable with what is scientific, observable and philosophically reasonable.

Perhaps this is why so many atheists attack religion (being a whole entirely different subject as theism can and does exist apart from religion) and religious concepts as it makes them feel more secure over their atheist beliefs and ideologies and the fact that they have no real arguments for their atheism or any real arguments against theism.

A lot of christians here might not understand why atheists preach against religion with such devoutness and their mindless hatred of religion.

Here might be the reason why so many atheists on the internet are mindless trolls who relentlessly attack religion and religious people. Half of it is down to their own frustration of having no reasonable argument against theism whilst their position is continuously attacked. As a matter of fact, examining atheism in-depth, you'll find that atheists have no reasonable pro-atheist arguments or responses - only attacks and mockery of religious concepts but being unable to formulate an argument backed by reason, evidence or science against theism.

Unfortunately, their hatred of religion has blinded them, they claim to be free from religion but their hatred and obsession with religion reveals that they are still shackled to it. It has been bad experiences with religion or religious people that made them what they were but they are unable to see that extremism, not religion, is the real root of their problems and experiences.

Far from being the root of all evil, religion is simply a tool used by extremists to do bad and extremists will also use secular systems (indeed militant atheism in Soviet Russia did bad in the name of atheism and self-professed free-thinking) or politics for that. Most people realize that the system itself is not evil and that it is extremism which makes something bad. Should we abandon democracy and politics because of corruption in politics or political groups which are extremist? No because that does not represent what politics is just like religious extremists do not represent religion. However many of these internet atheists fail to realize this and so take it upon themselves to crusade against something they see to be evil. Some of these atheists are self-admitted former religious extremists and rather than dealing with the problem, they are now atheist extremists who are intolerant to any line of opposing thought and hold anyone who believes differently from themselves with contempt. This describes most of the modern day atheist movement and it should be no surprise that many historical atheist philosophers were misanthropes with a hatred of humanity and themselves.

Atheists attempt to dress their position up as scientific but when we examine it in-depth it as we have in this post, we find it to be contrary to not just scientific facts but reason itself. This I believe, the majority of atheists are somewhat consciously aware of which is why I believe they use red herrings and try to debate about religion rather than theism and atheism and why they attempt to shift the burden of proof when they claim "there is no god." They do these things because none can defend atheism without a recourse to blind faith in fantasies like the infinite monkey theorem or something from nothing which can equally be used by any theist to argue how God could exist in an infinite number of ways.




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lilliesboy:
Angry that you are stupid or angry that you are having migraine headache over a "minority world view" called atheism? The one who needs a therapist is you - the CRAZEtian who says deism is irreligion but atheism is something else. And to think that a CRAZEtian will argue for an omnipotent god is laughable and confirms pure madness! Let your god speak for itself, atheists are everywhere and doing fine!

I'm not here to discuss God with you but to correct your misconception.

Are you saying irreligion/secularism is atheism?

If atheists are doing fine, why are you so angry?

lilliesboy:
Still a junk write-up as usual, but that is what you are good at. Where are the atheist sites/links I put up here? Your eyes are as deluded and confused as your brain. You talk of deism: is it CRAZEtianity? Is deism in your BuyBull or accepted by jesus? Why not go for deism then rather than having headache over atheism's superb growth? Dumb hypocrite!

Lol, stop call names, you're so angry and you need a therapist.

Another Characteristic of new atheism is that they will go with anything but Christianity and so its not surprising that you are sympathetic to deism. The links I posted to you are intelligible and well researched articles with tangible proof. However since, it exposes the negatives of atheism, I'm not expecting you to read them in an attempt to protect your dogma.

abduljabbar4:
Bro you are twisting things here. Indoctrination means brainwashing.

I think the major issue is that most atheists here think atheism is the default state, they think atheism is immune from the indoctrination process.

lilliesboy:
I don't waste my time reading copy-and-paste junks and links. You got nothing tangibly rational to say. "Irreligion or secularism does not equal atheism," you say. Then what is irreligion/secularism or what does it equal? Confused deluded CRAZEtians.

Lol, but you can waste time with copy and paste from atheist websites?

So you don't know that several irreligious people believe in God, you've never heard of deism?

You are a typical African who just got converted to atheism, I understand. You must be young too. Take care.

lilliesboy:
A "minority world view" that is a big THREAT to imbecil*c CRAZEtians like you, I suppose? Christianity is a minority religion and world view in China, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, India, North Korea, Pakistan and even Yisrael till date. And these aforementioned countries make up half of the world's total population, thus Christianity is the minority world view only popular amongst African mental slaves like you. Get your facts right. Many churches are being turned to dance clubs and beer bars in the United Kingdom and elsewhere.

Atheism does not look for crowd or multitudes by going door-to-door preaching or invading other people's privacy like CRAZEtianity does; its "minority" members are rare gem and enough to promote its humanistic cause! The greatest brains in the world were and still atheists, others are NON-Christians. Go and loose your ignorance!

Ouch, you're toxic and angry, like many contemporary atheists.

China, Russia, USA etc have more number of Christians than Nigeria. And maybe you don't know, irreligion or secularism does not equal atheism. Atheism is still less than 4% of the total world population.

Also, the greatest brains ever were largely religious, most of the areas of science we pursue today were founded by christians: https://www.nairaland.com/2975009/christianity-reason-science

Likewise, many of the greatest educational institutes of the world were founded by Christians, Harvard, Oxford, Princeton etc.

Also, calling me a mental slave will not change the fact that Christianity was well present in Africa prior to the transatlantic slave trade. I buttressed that in point 7 of this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/4424673/slavery-bible-answers-christians-atheist

Also, despite otherwise claimes or actions by those not following the teachings of Christ, Christianity has done more than atheism will ever do for humanity, I proved that here: https://www.nairaland.com/3232251/what-exactly-atheism-done-humanity

You also need to know that the 20th century was the century of the atheist. This was the century that most heads of states and countries were declared atheistic. See how they performed:

https://www.nairaland.com/3232176/atheist-presidents-heads-state-quick

https://www.nairaland.com/2988881/atheism-terrorism-annihilation-quest-atheistic

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

Once in a while you need to question atheism like I opined here: https://www.nairaland.com/4416369/atheists-mind-free-enough-question



You sound fierce, like one of those newly converted atheists who is equally as bigoted as religious individuals, who thinks atheism is synonymous with intelligence or science.

I hate to break it to you but the atheistic belief is as old as humanity itself, however it is and will continue to remain a minority worldview because of the hopelessness and impracticability associated with it. There are obvious reasons why every generation of humanity have believed in one form of God or the other. Those reasons are stipp there, and the biggest of them all is that "Reality is not all there is".

Martinez19:
What are those evidence? Can you show me?

what would you consider evidence?

lilliesboy:
Any intelligent and skeptical individual that reads your thrash would stop half-way after seeing the lies and stupidity in it. Atheism is growing everyday and your cheap blackmails and mockery as a CRAZEtian cannot stop it, not even in Nigeria! Try something else.

Atheism has been growing for centuries before you were born, today its still a minority worldview and likely to remain so. Hopelessness does not sell well with humanity.

My Logic tells me that in a country where there is mass unemployment, where jobs are taken from those who have them, where those who have paid their dues are offered peanut as wages, where tens of thousands are about to be pumped into the same labour market...my logic tells me that crime rate will skyrocket. There will be an astronomical rise in social vices and more lives will be lost to this senselessness.

The crime will be well planned by intelligent graduates with well equipped arms and ammunitions, the poor masses only defence will be our "no so smart" ill-equipped police force, who will stall and make sure the coast is clear before storming the crime scene.

My advise: Wake up and fight those milking your nation dry, your leaders care nothing for you.
Secondly, buy a firearm and stay strapped always.
Peter and the disciples of Jesus were always strapped, Peter attacked a soldier immediately they tried to arrest Jesus, he was strapped. Stay strapped.

saeedowolab:
Jesus is a messenger of God, the messenger of whom has passed away and his mother is a saintly woman and they both use to eat earthly food, c how we make d revelation clear to them c how they turned away. Quoted from the holy Quran, On the last day God will ask Jesus,,, did tell ur people to worship u and ur mother as two gods besides God , Jesus will answer no, I don't speak on my own except what u knew , it is their heart desire, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified Allah say in the glorious Quran ,we brought him unto us but it looks to them as if he was killed, there is no way Jesus could be crucified after fasting and praying for 40 days and night according to the bible, if Jesus truly died for ur sins on the cross why would u be chastised for ur sins, Jesus is neither a God nor the son of God, in the bible , a man walk up to Jesus and say good teacher , what can I do to inherit enternal life, Jesus said no one is good except one which is God, Jesus admitted that he is not good, the doctrine of trinity was adopted when roman catholic embrace Christianity, in an effort not to abandon their old believe completely , their triune gods which worship becomes the doctrine of the trinity, December 25 birth of the gods becomes Christmas, When isiahah saw two visions in the old testament , the chariot of ass and the chariot of camel, the chariot of ass turned out to b Jesus who conquered the city of Jerusalem according to the new testament while the chariot of camel turned out to b Muhammad who conquered the city of Mecca, if the don't believe in the second vision , the prophesy of isiaha is not fulfilled,

Maybe you're talking about Isa of the Quran. I'm talking about Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the one who said "Before Abraham was, I AM". A man who claimed to be God and lives, whose death and resurrection are well documented, who is the focal point of the Bible, written by 52 authors from several continents. Why should I believe just what 1man is saying, what if he's lying?

HCpaul:
Nice one from the united state.

I am just like you as I also believe in the possibilities of this great nation. I will live to defend the integrity of her people and with the working wonders of future science, we will change the fate of her citizens and reclaim our promises.

God bless the United State
God bless Africa
God bless Nigeria
God bless Nairaland
Most especially, God bless the readers reading this.

Which God? Do you now believe in God?

ChristineC:
they are not shared. If you know, you know

They are not shared?

amani63:
I will destroy your mouth for here

PVC for what

for voting.

The Yoruba's and Igbo's keep shouting NO to Buharis reelection but the northerners are ready and waiting with their PVC's while the Yoruba's and Igbo's keep hoping for a miracle. See proof below.

Later you people will start asking in 2019 if it was cows that voted buhari, when you all abandoned your PVC.

Euouae:
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Do you have a job?

No I don't, wanna get me one?

The Yoruba's and Igbo's keep shouting NO to Buharis reelection but the northerners are ready and waiting with their PVC's while the Yoruba's and Igbo's keep hoping for a miracle. See proof below.

dalaman:
Wait and see that you are foolish and your logic is lame? Is that what you want us to wait and see?

Mad man. What logic is lame? Are you okay?