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PastorAIO:
This is a champion post.

SMH

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks . May God bless and strengthen you , Amen

Amen o

KingEbukaNaija:
Lol !!!!

Facts also reveal that atheism is experiencing a massive global decline

http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html

wow.

jimmynauty:
where i go i no come read this powerful piece winner i can only attribute this your piece on the grace of God this is too much

God bless you.

FearGodAndLive:
God damn.

Damn wat?

olaniyi50:
Even though I'm not an atheist, I can see so many religious people in the attack stance, defining atheism to suit their taste so that they'll be able to sleep well in the night. Before you criticize any position, move to the position's suite so that you can see from their perspective. Most, if not All atheist, were once religious.

I was once irreligious.

Three things are noticeable in this totally shameful thread.

1. Many christians have avoided this thread in an attempt to make the few desperate atheists massage their egos. I find this really commendable.

2. As usual, out of the 5000+ gods, atheists prove yet again that there are gods and there is 1 God, the God of creation, the God of all flesh...and how else can you fight your God but to pretend he does not exist while (unknowingly) spending your life talking about Him.

3. No matter how many threads are created, urging people not to believe in God, the flames of belief keeps burning fiercely. Humanity has never been irreligious,
irreligion is alien to humanity and this is because creation always need a creator even if those creators have never been seen or heard. I've never seen or heard the creator/s of Toyota for instance. Its always been the common sense stand. Till people find what they can hold as truth or certainty, as a result of their questioning reality, they will ALWAYS keep trying to reach out for the supernatural regardless of the fury and opinions of less than 4% of humans like the op who feel we can live life without questioning reality. Its innate and this is why almost all generations of humanity have always believed in some form of gods or God. I'm happy to tell you superhumanist, that you wasted your time once again.



"Let them alone, they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into a pit..." - Best seller and widest read Book throughout all of humanity.

People like dalaman, cutemadridsta, superhumanist, martinez19, TayserMahiri, Follykaze and other Delusionists will avoid this thread.

TayserMahiri:
Christians should be embarrassed for asking for proof. You guys prove nothing but insist for proof from everyone

Why do you think a christian needs to prove anything to you?

Butterflyleo:
Do you now want to argue with statistics? Same statistics you use to defend your position when presented back at you you start ranting

Well pew research says you are the one lying and two faced bigot. Deal with it or you can petition them.

The fact is that MOST americans do not want your atheism and this is why you are angry

Perhaps you expected america to have a very high atheist population but they are calling you a wishful thinker

Dalaman is pained that advanced countries have extremely high number of religious individuals.

dalaman:
You guys are just lying two-faced hypocrites. One minute winner01 was saying that christians are ONLY people that do what Christ says and NOT people that say they are. So which is it. Are christians people that do what Christ says or people that identify with the religion without following or adhering to its teachings because that is what MOST Americans are.

America has more Christians that Nigeria and we can see how advanced they are. Keep blaming religion for your woes

dalaman:
The USA does NOT have more number of christians than Nigeria. You are a double faced hypocrite. Just on the other thread you were insisting that christains are people who are Christ-like. Americans are NOT Christ like. They identify with the religion but they don't practice it or believe in it. Just take for instance majority of the people in the USA believe in evolution(about 51%) and not creationism. They believe in the right to bear arms (which is totally unchristlike ) Jesus advocated for a very silly form of pacifism, turn the other cheek nonsense that no christian abides by.

Majority believe in gay rights etc. Tell me is that being Christ like?

There is a total separation of church and state in the US. God doesn't mean much to them, their institutions have no place for religion like in Nigeria.

Christians are bound by a belief in Jesus as the son of God. The rest is not my business and I really don't have time for all these nonsense. What's wrong in bearing arms, what did peter do when Jesus was arrested? Was peter not armed?

I nor get ur time ds nite

dalaman:
You said there are over a billion christians in China earlier na. Where is your own accurate source that show that there are over 1 billion christians in China. You are mad.

So you don't make mistakes abi?

Your fada!.

Butterflyleo:
Yes it has risen which is why there are several reports declaring that the astronomical growth of Christianity in China is going through the roof and expected to be the largest in the world by 2030

I opened a thread on this 2 years ago.


https://www.nairaland.com/3172960/china-course-worlds-most-christian

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I JUST CHECKED AGAIN AND SAW WHERE HE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS NONSENSE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE IN GERMANY AND SPAIN WHO SEE CHURCH AS A LEISURE ACTIVITY.
THEY GO THERE WHEN WE GO TO WATCH FOOTBALL. THEY GO THERE WHEN OTHERS GO ELSEWHERE TO WATCH MOVIES.

BUT YOU'LL NEVER HEAR THEM ASKING GOD FOR FAVORS OR MIRACLES. THEY VISIT THE HOSPITALS WHEN THEY'RE ILL AND ACTUALLY WORK TO GET THINGS DONE.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THE GIRL WHO ALMOST DIED FROM KIDNEY ISSUES IN MY ZONE BACK THEN. PRIDE DIDN'T ALLOW HER FAMILY ASK FOR DONATIONS, MADE US FEEL THEY DIDN'T WANT THE OPERATIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR CONNECTION TO A MIRACULOUS SKY DWELLING DEITY. GIRL WAS DYING, FAMILY KEPT PRAYING AND PAYING PASTORS TO VISIT.. UNTIL ONE OF THEIR WEALTHY RELATIVES STEPPED IN. SHE WAS FLOWN TO INDIA THAT YEAR.

SCIENTIFICALLY AND TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED PEOPLE DON'T FOLD THEIR ARMS PRAYING WHEN THEY HAVE BETTER OPTIONS. OUR BIGGEST DADDY GO'S IN NIGERIA GO ABROAD JUST TO TREAT A HEADACHE. THEY MOVE AROUND WITH TIGHT SECURITY AND BULLET PROOF VESTS, AND SELL UGLY APRONS, BIBLES AND ANOINTING OIL TO US FOR PROTECTION.

Story for the gods.

If they like, make dem go to church for leisure. What makes you think Nigerian Christians don't go to church for leisure? Do many Nigerian Christians look like they believe in God?

TayserMahiri:
You have your reasons. There are also uneducated people who are atheists and they have their reasons

I thought atheism comes with education?

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I JUST CHECKED AGAIN AND SAW WHERE HE ACTUALLY WROTE THIS NONSENSE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE IN GERMANY AND SPAIN WHO SEE CHURCH AS A LEISURE ACTIVITY.
THEY GO THERE WHEN WE GO TO WATCH FOOTBALL. THEY GO THERE WHEN OTHERS GO ELSEWHERE TO WATCH MOVIES.

BUT YOU'LL NEVER HEAR THEM ASKING GOD FOR FAVORS OR MIRACLES. THEY VISIT THE HOSPITALS WHEN THEY'RE ILL AND ACTUALLY WORK TO GET THINGS DONE.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THE GIRL WHO ALMOST DIED FROM KIDNEY ISSUES IN MY ZONE BACK THEN. PRIDE DIDN'T ALLOW HER FAMILY ASK FOR DONATIONS, MADE US FEEL THEY DIDN'T WANT THE OPERATIONS BECAUSE OF THEIR CONNECTION TO A MIRACULOUS SKY DWELLING DEITY. GIRL WAS DYING, FAMILY KEPT PRAYING AND PAYING PASTORS TO VISIT.. UNTIL ONE OF THEIR WEALTHY RELATIVES STEPPED IN. SHE WAS FLOWN TO INDIA THAT YEAR.

SCIENTIFICALLY AND TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED PEOPLE DON'T FOLD THEIR ARMS PRAYING WHEN THEY HAVE BETTER OPTIONS. OUR BIGGEST DADDY GO'S IN NIGERIA GO ABROAD JUST TO TREAT A HEADACHE. THEY MOVE AROUND WITH TIGHT SECURITY AND BULLET PROOF VESTS, AND SELL UGLY APRONS, BIBLES AND ANOINTING OIL TO US FOR PROTECTION.

So who fold their arms, those who are making things work in this world are religious. The fact that the western world is not as spiritual as Africa does not prove anything. Africa has always been spiritual, this is why we were defeated by colonial masters in the first place.

Your problem in Africa is your mentality, not religion. Humanity has always been religious.

TayserMahiri:
Religious zealots lie without flinching. China has a total population of 1.3 billion so you are saying virtually everyone is a christian in China. Truth is, less than 100 million are christians in china (less than 4 %).

Sorry, That was a typographical error. I don't lie as much as dalaman

dalaman:
What is this nonsense? How many christians are there in China? China has a christian population of more than 1 billion people? You are a mad liar.

Considering that most sources of the number of Christians in China are perverted (even Wikipedia) because of the Chinese government, the source below is inaccurate. Christianity has risen astronomically in China and this has forced the chinese government to crack down seriously on Christianity. Check one of my threads for source

darkchild64:
winner01 not like I am trying to be manipulative but if I were you I would not use those statistics. It is better for you guys that there are just I million christians on earth who are committed to the faith than there are 3 billion christians and over 90% of them barely read the bible up to twice monthly,in western countries like I said people identify with religion because it is part of their culture but even it at that people still muster courage to reject it,it barely affects how they live their lives and this reflects on everything you see in such countries,from their acceptance to certain ways of life condemned in the bible me to their attitude towards religious matters in general

Great story.

TayserMahiri:
In fact its not just advancement. Even education level attainment and IQ Both are inversely proportional to religious belief. Even in those Muslim countries that are more advanced such as the Emirates its just that religion is forced on them by a sword. Dare to leave it and die. If their stupid laws became less stringent people would quickly and gladly peal the fake religion skin and reveal their true selves. So yeah, people are less likely to be religious if they come from developed countries. And thats because their social welfare replaces God very effectively, except the US. In poor countries people need God to fool themselves when things get thick, which they do almost every day

I have 2 Mscs, 1PGD and on my Phd, why is my belief in God as strong as this considering that I was not always religious.

dalaman:
Of course the more developed a country is the less religious the country and it's institutions are.

But USA has more number of Christians than Nigeria, why are they stipp developing?

darkchild64:
You know why your post is so funny although I don't know if you are included but so many of your type of christians including your comrade butterflyleo has been proclaiming that christianity is not a religion but a lifestyle, however when it comes to statistices you start boasting that christianity is popular even in the western nations. I am not arguing against the statistics but the fact remains that these countries we are talking of are not religious in terms of the influence of religion on their lifestyle, look at me for instance,my National Identity card says I'm a Christian and in as much as I am still under my parents I will officially identify as such but of course I'm an atheist.
Likewise in western countries like Denmark,religion is more like a tradition or culture,people identify as Christians but we know that they are not into religion

Do you know several Christians like myself also identify as irreligious because Christianity is not a religion?

dalaman:
Stop repeating this lie. China DOES NOT have more christians than Nigeria. There are much more christians in Nigeria than China.

China has a christian population of more than 1,349,585,838, U.S.A (316, 668,567), Nigeria (174,507,539), Russia (142,500,482), Japan (127,253,075).


But no, Nigeria is regressing because of the number of Christians abi

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DALAMAN DO YOU AGREE THAT RELIGION DEPENDS ON HOW DEVELOPED A COUNTRY IS?

THAT RELIGION THRIVES MORE IN POOR DEVELOPING COUNTRIES COMPARED TO ALREADY DEVELOPED COUNTRIES?


YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CURSE ME. I GUESS THAT'S THE REASON WHY NOBODY LIKES TO ENGAGE WITH YOU FOR MORE THAN A SENTENCE. YOU'RE DULL.

Iceland that has 72% Christians is not developed?? Or China that has more number of Christians than Nigeria is not developed??

Okay, let me wait for dalaman to come give his answer

TayserMahiri:
That is true to the objective and balanced mind but you dont want to say it to unstable souls like the OP.

Prove this.

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...SAYS THE MAN WHO VISITS BULLSHIT RELIGIOUS WEBSITES, AND WIKI.. WHERE ANYONE CAN WRITE ANYTHING.


VISIT THE FORUMS OF THE PEOPLE IN THOSE COUNTRIES AND INTERACT WITH THEM EVEN ON FACEBOOK OR IG, YOU'LL KNOW.

THERE ARE CHRISTIANS EVERYWHERE ACCORDING TO DUMB STATISTICS, BUT HOW MANY OF THEM PRAY AND WORSHIP IN CHURCH?

THOSE STATS COULD BE DUE TO THE FACT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING BORN INTO RELIGIOUS HOMES, THEY LATER DECONVERT IMMEDIATELY THEY START TO REASON FOR THEMSELVES.

ON PAPER AFTER CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM YOU'LL FIND ATHEISM AS THE LARGEST GROUP.

WHEREAS THOSE STATS ARE WRONG BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE CONVERT AND DECONVERT EVERY TIME. FORGET WIKIPEDIA, READ THE NEWS. VISIT THEIR BLOGS AND INTERACT WITH PEOPLE YOU SEE ON THE INTERNET.

THE 10 (OR MORE) INDIAN FRIENDS I'VE MADE ON THE WEB TOLD ME THEY'RE NONRELIGIOUS, BUT IDENTIFY WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIONS FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES, MAYBE FOR WORK OR BECAUSE OF SCHOOL.. OR TO AVOID PUBLIC RIDICULE. SO FORGET THE STATISTICS. BECAUSE WE DON'T MOVE IN NIGERIA DOESN'T MEAN PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES AREN'T MOVING.

RELIGION DEPENDS ON HOW ADVANCED A COUNTRY IS. IF WE GET TO THE HEIGHTS OF CHINA OR SWITZERLAND TODAY WE'LL REPLACE PRAYERS WITH SO MANY THINGS THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.

Animal!!!

After I disproved your bullshit you resort to story telling, same thing dalaman does

How can you say Religion depends on how advanced a country is? Are you normal?

Before I reply you let me ask if dalaman or TayserMahiri agrees with you

Iliveforme:
I think I have seen enough. Nobody here can help me. Nobody seems wants to deal with the reality of our failed existence despite knowing that the moment we are born we start walking towards our death.

Some say its the journey that makes it all worthwhile but wtf is a journey without an end in view and why the journey since I know it will all end soon.

Another says its death that makes life worth living. How is this even possible? I live and I die and you say death makes my living meaningful?

Another comes to sell me a spiritual bullshitt and some christian mumbo jumbo despite warning that I do not want that crap. We all live and we all die and that's it.

I have been so depressed and bothered and I think I now know what to do. At least that one I can control.

Thank you everyone and fuckkk you all too for nothing I even say makes sense or matters in the long run so I may as well cuss you all out while I leave.

Regis is saying goodbye.

The simple question I asked bro, you refused to answer it. How did humanity get here?

Once you know how you embarked on a journey, you'll know what you need to do during the journey to get to your destination safely.

TayserMahiri:
That is true to the objective and balanced mind but you dont want to say it to unstable souls like the OP. That statement, like religious faith can justify anything so you want to say it to people who you perceive as mentally "balanced". Atheism suffers the same problem that religious zealots bring.

And never say my brother in atheism. There is no 'atheism as a kind of religion'. We may agree on a few things with the guy but trust me we differ in a million more. And that is because we are normal humans. It may surprise you but I would never, and have never got into a 'chama' of atheists. I consider it nonsense.

How can you say something is true without proving it?

I didn't say atheism is a kind of religion, but definitely you people got your backs like brothers. Atheist brothers is not as bad as you think it is

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SAY THAT TO THE PEOPLE OF ICELAND, DENMARK, NETHERLANDS, SWEDEN AND MANY OTHER NATIONS WHOSE RELIGIOUS CITIZENS ARE LESS THAN 1%... NOT EVEN CHRISTIANS AT THAT.

Where did you hear that their religious citizens are less than 1%

In Iceland, more than 71.6% of the population belongs to the state church (the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Iceland) according to wikipedia.

In Denmark, Evangelical Lutheran (official) 76%, Muslim 4% and others

In Netherlands, 26% of the population identify as Roman Catholic, 16% as Protestant, 5% as Muslim, and other denominations

In Sweden, The Lutheran Church of Sweden — which was the state religion— has a registered membership of 6.1 million Swedish citizens, equal to 61.2% of the total population. Wikipedia.

Why do you, dalaman and the rest like to lie. Which country in the world has a religious population of less than 1%? NONE!!!
Stop visiting bullshit atheist websites.

darkchild64:
It is what I think

issokay

AnonyNymous:
Can you please leave me alone?

Can't a man attempt to begin a civil discussion?