₦airaland Forum

Enice:
Oga, stop talking rubbish! Are these achievements! We're they even implemented by him or by GEJ? If it's to open mouth talk rubbish, do you know how many policies have been proposed by this government? Yar'Adua was able to benefit from the trickle down effect of the Obasanjo's government due to the debt forgiveness and excess crude funds. You cannot actually point to any tangible thing he did apart from pms reduction in price.

I have made this same point countless times. Nigerians, just like most human beings, are sycophantic in praise of the dead.

That is what has crafted the ridiculous myth of "performer President" around Yar Adua.

For those who know the fundamental problems that must be tackled, so that Nigeria can be truly great, it is obvious Year Adua took no interest in a single one of them let alone resolve conclusively.

omenka:
Are you going to reform electoral law alone or with the parliament? Isn't the parliament replete with those "old corrupt politicians" and their Stooges?

You guys don't even seem to understand anything about democracy and how it works.

Precisely. It is because, sad as it is to announce, they are not a naturally democratic people.

Muyuba:
It is sad, and regrettable that Tinubu should have become Nigerian Governor, not to talk of Nigerian President

Of course it will be sad and regrettable to you. Yet Lagosians and Nigerians who are progressive will disagree because they are not blinded from seeing the good leaders have done because of one prejudice or the other.

Softmirror:
I trust Tinubu he will do the needful which even when he does, they will still complain that people are hungry and their stomach is more important.

Bro, to prove my point about Nigerians been naysayers because of ethno-religious prejudice and hate, kindly inspect the thread below.

https://www.nairaland.com/8490712/fg-opened-single-digit-mortgage-loans

It highlights a wonderful and transformational development no government has attempted since our current democracy began in 1999.

I.e single digit long term mortgages, providing ordinary citizens of a nation with the opportunity to own their own properties.

Owning a family home is one of the ways of defeating generational poverty as it can be handed down to children freeing them from the burden of rent or even used as collated for loans to start businesses etc.

As such owning one's home is therefore very important to me and even sacrosanct as I believe it should be for Nigerians.


Now, inspect that thread to see if any of the vociferous naysayers here showed face to even grudgingly praise the initiative and development.

Does it not make sense that those who genuinely want progress for Nigeria never see nor praise positive developments yet remain focused exclusively on negatives alone always?

Ethno-religious and sectional hatred has damaged the minds of most Nigerians but they just don't realise this.

Softmirror:
I trust Tinubu he will do the needful which even when he does, they will still complain that people are hungry and their stomach is more important.

Precisely what I said to a poster above. He needs time but we know he has the will and talent to get it right.

It is dumb and unreasonable foe anyone to pick one out of literally thousands of problems facing Nigeria to then begin attacking the PBAT government with.

When resources is not limitless, and with Nigeria near total collapse when Tinubu took affair, won't their be a priority rating for solving the many problems facing Nigeria?
Or the President os a magician to wave a wand and every single problem of Nigeria is instantly resolved to world class standard.

The reason many Nigerians are biased and lacking objectivity, when deliberation over issues, is simply ethno-religious prejudice against others that prevents them.swwing what is obvious or even deliberately lying when they see/know what is crystal crystal clear.

Reference:
Why not say since 1960.
You guys should realise that there is no one else on this earth who can do anything about the situation except those who are presently in charge. If we go down the route of excusing every challenge nothing will ever get solved.

When you strongly critique it is not just the present system you send a signal to but you are also warning whoever seeks to lead in future that they better get prepared or not bother to stand at all.

I don't know of any democracy anywhere in the world where leaders are given such a free pass to mediocrity like this country's.

Is it not to your benefit as a citizen if these problems are sorted out fast.

Oga, slow your roll. Tinubu is 2 years and a bit in power. Nigeria had far more pressing issues, threatening to lead to the collapse of our nation, Tinubu had to grapple with after becoming President..

Reasonable people will understand there will be a hierarchy of urgency for solving what is myriads of problems for a country near bankrupt when Asiwaju took the helm of affairs.

The PBAT Government is the most burdened since our current democracy began in 1999. He needs time to deliver significant solutions in many sector affecting Nigeria and Nigerians considering most issues troubling Nigeria had become worse than they should due to years of aggregated inactions of past Presidents.

Softmirror:
Haba Racoon you are not less than 50 years old and you are talking like this. Haba wisdom is suppose to come with age. While I know that the necessary things to do to checkmate this will be done by this administration, your attributing this rots and deteriotion to Tinubu who is barely two years in office is just childish.

The guy is something else. Full of bitterness and vitriol. As if this began under Tinubu and not all other Presidents since 1999.

Goodnewsforlife:
And still they can't govern the place

That's d power of hate, it destroys the hater

Now Buhari is gone but they can't retrieve d arms from those hoodlums

Wisely and well-said. Buhari is indeed gone. The hatred they hosted in their heart for him, that culminated in them turning guns on themselves, has achieved what exactly?

Kai !!! The El Rufai family, top to bottom, is something else. Won't say more than that. If you know you know.

Well-said @ ppogba. You sabi how the thing dey go. Egotists, constantly seeking validation, are the easiest folk for manipulative people with a hidden agenda to bamboozle and exploit.

Even the history of Nigeria has proven this.

surgical:
please what is exciting you about winning the next election, is it because he has done well, which the verdict is out that he failed woefully or because you are benefiting personally, which can be understandable because of the nature of human being or you do not understand the implication of having an incompetent and unfeeling ruler rule over a nation and see it as a game, my team vs you team ignoring the implications or you are looking at things through an ethnic lense which will make you a pawn in the politicians game

The bolded is what you see. I see something else entirely. Let's leave it that because we are in a democracy and allowed to disagree.

kingthreat:
The Northern bandit problem is now the unknown gunmen problem in the Southeast. They are both run by young kids with guns.

Precisely. They are regions of people who , without doubt, have the natural inclination to devour their own.

Yet both regions are the most problematic and unreasonable in terms of what Nigeria needs, as a nation, to be successful.

While one has embraced violence to try and gain Biafra, the other has willingly adopted terrorism and banditry to create an Islamic caliphate in a supposedly secular nation.

Imagine if Nigeria had only those two as national partners within her borders. They would have wiped each other out.

Yet both, very problematic people and regions, keep making arrogant noise and demands that show they do not appreciate that Nigeria would be totally gone but for the SW, SS and Middle Belt.

The core North and SE seriously need to fix up!!

columbus007:
These young men carrying guns 😳, what are we not doing right as a country?.

Please don't drag the entire Nigeria into this. Rephrase your question and ask "What are the Core North and SE not doing right as regions of Nigeria?"

That would be a more sincere question to ask that would be fair to region of Nigeria doing the right things and deserving praise (i.e SW, SS and North Central) yet keep been disrespected and disregarded by those of a radical and fundamentalist inclination from the North and SE that are today the laggard regions dragging Nigeria back currently.

DeJoeee:
He is desperate because He made an argument for electoral reform as a way to change the country?
You guys are so annoying in this forum. Someone made a case for one term Presidency with his point of view and instead of coming up with a superior argument, you are all busy calling him all sorts of names. Nawaoo

Please Forget the bullcrap about INEC. Tell that to six year old kids.

Every educated and averagely intelligent Nigerian knows that what Nigeria needs, to begin travelling at 200 MPH towards her utopian destination, is abrogation of 'one Nigeria'' for a fair system of governance that will end parasitism, stimulate healthy competition and allow every region of our nation to be optimally productive in reaching their maximum potentials according to their human and material endowment.

Peterobiisathie:
go and end insecurity in Alaibo first

They are the only people who do not understand the concept of "charity begins at home".

This is why they are trying to 'develop' Cape Town, Nairobi, Accra, Lagos, China, Singapore etal while ala remains a place they flee, in their thousands daily, to escape.

Walai:
Yes,
we are desperate to end hunger
We are desperate to end poverty
We are desperate to retire corrupt politicians
We are desperate to end the looting and stealing
We are desperate to end the killings going on all over the country
We are desperate to take back the power corrupt politicians hijacked from us the people of Nigeria
We are desperate to secure the future of our children born and unborn
We are desperate to see Nigeria work.
If that is what desperate means to you, yes , I am proudly desperate.

Yes, because history of Nigeria since independence confirms your ethnic group has been the biggest and most consistent agitators for what is best for the Zoo Nigeria ba?

Really amusing how you guys take others for fools, with significant memory loss, when you make your dumbfounding claims.

Peterobiisathie:
These people are very desperate

They are. No doubt about that.

omenka:
Retiring old corrupt politicians how? By denying them their right to participate in politics or what? Do you people even listen to yourselves talk? Is it democracy or dictatorship you guys are talking about?

They never think before they talk. Is Obi himself a "young man" at 64 to then be viewed a gladiator to retire "old and corrupt politician"?

How long has he been in politics (decades in reality) for any sane Nigerian to delusionally view him as "fresh air"?

Someone who, by his own confession, stated he willingly accepted to work for Abacha who will forever be remembered as one of the worst leaders of Nigeria ever?

Talking of corruption, a Governor who, without seeking the approval ofAnambra folks , used the commonwealth of a state to invest in a beer-brewing venture, is what other than Corrupt?

Obi invested $12.24 million USD of Anambra's money in his private madness only for such to to be worth $5.38 million USD in 2022, half of original amount invested, yet Obi was lying the investment was worth $100 million USD.

Totally disgraceful.

https://www.thecable.ng/revealed-peter-obi-administrations-12-24m-investment-in-international-breweries-now-worth-5-38m/

REVEALED: Peter Obi administration’s $12.24m stake in International Breweries now worth $5.38m


“… Anambra state is the single-highest shareholder in that facility. I invested in it, over $20 million,” Obi had said.

“It is worth almost $100 [million] today. That’s what government should do.”

Supporters of Obi think the rest of us are illiterates with amnesia that has created zero recollection of the past history of the agulu charlatan.

porthouse7:
This guy knows he will never be president after tinubu 8 years, he's so desperate to get it now or never

You are 💯% correct. The realisation of Obi that 2027 represents his only slim hope of being President ever is what is behind the nauseating show of desperation we are seeing from him today.

Imagine meeting with Sheikh Gumi and Malami? 😳 Whatever next, attending Bello Turji's marriage to his twentieth wife?

Ttalk:
The guy is actually from SE. If you remember Truthisunque pre APC primary, the guy who posed to be from SS but supported everything that could defeat Tinubu in the primary even if it was a goat.

Today he has pitched tent with the North running and sniffing any new that could relief him of the impending defeat staring him in the face.

Word ? 😲😳Thanks for the heads up. Daniel Kanu-like by nature I guess.

I.e the dude who convened a 2 million man march for Abacha to continue as President of Nigeria at a time Nigerians and the entire universe wanted to see the back of the brutal and murderous dictator.

Whiteshield:
Yar Adua was President when one of the biggest heists in Nigeria was committed.

Sayyadi Abba Ruma as Minister of Agriculture used 200Billion to buy fertilisers. That's an equivalent of 3 Billion Dollars today.
Fertilisers, we didn't see. Money, we couldn't get.

Fighting corruption alone, if that is all Yat adua will be celebrated for, is pedestrian and a show of how average Yar Adua was for those who know what Nigeria need her Presidents to do with political power to make our nation truly great.

Yar Adua was such an average and withdrawn Governor of Katsina to the extent many other political leaders did not even know him till OBJ presented him as the PDP candidate to replace him. Check historical archives if you don't believe me.

What highly troubled Nigeria needs, above everything else, is a President with the bravery to liberate our most profitable assets and endowment, I.e human and material, [/b]from the decades long imprisonment a rapacious and wicked looting class has sentenced them to and then make such available to be the drivers of the greatness of Nigeria [b]onwards to becoming a developed nation.


The President who will make Nigeria great is the one who will do whatever it takes to ensure we use our assets and endowment, human and material, optimally.

A very simple and fundamental concept for even the most illiterate to understand.

Look at the North that is the worst in the entire world at neglect and disenfranchisement of her human resources.

They are where they are tisay because leaders of the region have scant regard for her human resources every successful nation elevates because of recognition of the fact that human resource, beyond even countless tonnes of gold, diamond and crude oil endowment, are the most valuable asset any geographical spaces has.

How much gold, crude oil, diamond etal does UK, Sweden, Switzerland etal have yet they are some of the most developed nation on Earth because of their optimally trained and utilised human resources

Should we go into history to inspect if Yar Adua uncompromisingly fought for the eradication of Almajiri backwardness in Katsina?

Did Yar Adua, as Awolowo achieved for the SW, uncompromisingly champion free and compulsory education for all in his Katsina jurisdiction as a driver of positive socio-economic change for Katsina and the North by extension?

I am always open to learning but I know enough to feel Yar Adua was simply another gradualist, same as all we have had before Tinubu, when Nigeria needs and has only ever needed a brave and uncompromising reformer as President to help her achieve her enormous potentials by getting the best out of our human and material assets/endowments.

Whiteshield:
The removal of subsidy which you lot vilified Tinubu for is that you have now turned around to regard as an achievement.

Anyway, Peter Obi has credibility issues and his words don't carry weight. No one believes him anymore.

Don't mind them. Every President that has come to power since 1999 is aware subsidy must go for Nigeria to make progress by taking optimal and nationally beneficial advantage of her greatest endowment i.e crude oil.

Nations with crude oil endowment become "developed nations" by selling refined derivative of crude, i.e PMS etal , to others worldwide.

Never can those 'lucky nations become anything by sabotaging their own refineries to then enact a scam against their people where the crude endowment meant to uplift the socio-economic fortunes of a nation turns into a curse against her development as happened to Nigeria.

Yet all President post 1999, knowing the above, allowed themselves to be convinced, by cabalistic looters, of the slush fund control of the fuel subsidy scam ,by the Presidency, can be to aid wealth acquisition, funding of election wins, etc, etc.

Fuel subsidy was formally introduced in 1977 by Obasanjo who was then Military head of State.

Every President since, to include Obasanjo who was our first democratic President in the post 1999 era, have capitulated to retain fuel subsidy.

Not Tinubu who had the political will and unimpeachable love of Nigeria and Nigerians to do what he knew he would be hated for yet had to be done to transform Nigeria for the better.

That act alone, along with several others he has carried out, shows PBAT is a President with an innovative eye on reforming Nigeria to become much better regardless of the cost to his own ambition.

emirate9:
4yrs is a long time to reconfigure the country .... as evidently seen by yaradua administration

if under 2yrs, yaradua could keep fuel pump price @ low and reversed sales of national asset .. its enough testament that willingness and being intentional is all it takes ...


Mandela did great in 4yrs ... just one term thats enough testament. our leaders deliberately feign clueless, incapacity and stall just to enjoy opulence much longer

There is a lot of romanticised revisionism attached to Yar Adua's Presidency because he died perhaps because many human being s are sycophantic and tend to wax lyrical about the dead.

To me, and sorry to offend his fans, Yar Adua achieved nothing special. I can only be impressed by fundamental changes and reforms that will move Nigeria onwards to becoming a developed nation.

Yar Adua touched non of those badly needed and fundamentally transformative reforms.

While things may have been relatively stable under him, truth is that this is not difficult to achieve for a President (as most have been since 1999 including OBJ) who is gradualist and not a reformer in the mould of some visionary leaders worldwide have been to earn them the tag "father of nations" for completely transforming for the better the life of a people.


All what you describe are simply gradualist actions bro. No Nigerian President since 1999, for example, compare to say Mustafa Ataturk referred to as "the father of Turkey".

Tinubu can , by the time he steps down, because of brave and never-before-seen reforms he is making. Truly great leaders don't just keep boats afloat. They move it onwards towards it's intended destination.

Mustafa Kemal Atatürk is referred to as the "Father of the Turks" primarily due to his pivotal role in the establishment of the Republic of Turkey and his significant contributions to modernizing and secularizing the nation. Here are some key reasons for this title:

Nation-Building:
Atatürk led the Turkish War of Independence (1919-1923) after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, successfully establishing Turkey as a sovereign nation. His leadership was crucial in unifying various ethnic groups within the territory, fostering a sense of national identity.

Reforms:
He implemented extensive reforms that transformed Turkish society, including the adoption of a new legal system, the Latin alphabet, and secular education. These changes aimed to modernize Turkey and promote a sense of national pride and unity.

Cultural Identity:
Atatürk emphasized Turkish nationalism, encouraging citizens to embrace a Turkish identity rather than an Ottoman or ethnic identity. This helped solidify the concept of a unified Turkish nation-state.

Secularism:
He separated religion from politics, establishing a secular government. This move was instrumental in shaping the modern Turkish state and ensuring that it was inclusive of various ethnicities and religions.

Legacy:
His vision and policies laid the foundation for contemporary Turkey, and he is widely revered in the country.

The title "Father of the Turks" reflects the respect and admiration he garnered for his role in shaping modern Turkish identity and governance.

While Atatürk had Kurdish and Albanian ancestry and was not ethnically Turkish in the narrow sense, his legacy transcends ethnic boundaries, as he is recognized for his contributions to the Turkish state and its people as a whole.

helinues:
Even southerners are not buying as usual Lamba from Peter Obi

Lol. His Lamba is now old, stale and no longer fooling anyone.

Ttalk:
Who is your own leader, you don't have leader not to talk of successor but you are asking people with leader, who would be their successor.

Where is the sense in your question??

The guy never makes sense. Have Barcelona and Real Madrid not continued to succeed without Messi and Ronaldo respectively?

Why must Tinubu have a successor for Yorubas to consolidate upon political gains made before, with and past Tinubu?

He is a feudal Northerner and those one see individual and never ideas. This is why they don't understand ideas outlive individuals.

ambale:
So now that they left the PDP for him, what has he been able to do??

We talking about Nigeria, and someone is talking about who help who

Your principal wan kpai the whole nation, you're here talking about betrayal

Who betrays more? The president who after fighting to claim a mandate turns his back on the citizens and start implementing anti-people policies or the people who are seeking to have a new political platform that would at least give them some sort of hope?

Oga, go and sit down. What Nigeria is Aregbe, Atiku, Malami,Hadi Sirika, Babachir Lawal, Dino Melaye etal fighting for?

You people don't consider how hypocritical and out of touch with reality you sound when you want to whitewash the image of the IDP (Internally displaced/disgruntled politicians) who have formed a coalition of desperation they are calling a "rescue mission". What a joke.

Okoroawusa:
Abeg who dey operate this bot make e reset am. The bot too dey talk out of point.

Indeed. Aregbe, the outcast who is finished in SW politics, is "doing serious damage" indeed. Can't blame that poster though. He is an emotional chap
Lol.

Validated:
Two years to elections, defeat is steering clearly on Tinubu and his men. This was unconcievable a few months ago when Okowa abd other joined APC. Now Tinubu has seen that ADC is already registering members massively, even in SW.

Continue fooling yourself. ADC and Atiku's 2027 ambition are stillborn. Both died in their mothers womb.

People who want to be somebody in life learn from talented achievers. You may not like PBAT but he a talented politician with capacity far beyond that of Atiku and Obi. He became President while unfancied by a considerably powerful Fulani cabal within the APC.

It is now he is President that some rabble rousers will depose him? What is gingering you excitable folks is the fact that, as is always the case, it is empty barrels who always make the most noise.

When the time is right you will note the Kingmakers in the North are behind Tinubu. Not because they particular like him but because they know, unlike Atiku etal, Jagaban is an honourable man who had fulfilled his promise to them meaning they must repay the deed in kind.

AMINDA:
It's now clear that Aregbesola is doing serious damage to Tinubu across the grassroots of the SW. In the Southwest, anyone that dares to chart a pathway for himself will be immediately termed a betrayer and the full weight of the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway propaganda machinery unleashed upon them. Case studies abound. Ambode, Fashola, Fayemi, Sanwo-olu, Osinbajo, etc. Dear Yorubas, after Tinubu, who would be your next leader? No, don't say you will cross the bridge when you get there. Who's Tinubu's successor(s)?

Only in your biased eyes is Aregbe "doing serious damage". This is someone ostracised by most Yoruba politico-intelligentsia class. Difference is they don't speak their mind openly as fiery Onanuga does.

It is not in public, for people like you to see, Aregbe is being punished. He is a pariah who is of course finished in the politics of the SW because only dishonorable people , which most Yoruba leaders are not, who will side with dishonorable people because they too are capable of and supportive of what Aregbe did against who Nigerians term "destiny helper".

It is the reason you, for example, supported Atiku, a Fulani, to replace another Fulani (Buhari) who had just finished two terms of 8 years as President so Fulanis could have a possible 16 years unbroken stint in power as if, of over 400 ethnic groups of Nigeria, our nation is about them alone.

It is the same support for treachery, and lack of honour, now pushing some , like Malami, etal to back Atiku to contest again in 2023. When you see Northerners backing Atiku, you are looking at treacherous and disnonorable Northerners.

At least Datti Baba Ahmed had the decenxy to speak against the "backstabbing" of Wike by Tambuwal and Atiku even if the likes of yourself cannot innately connect with the concept of disnonour, betrayal and backstabbing.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZtHHE95ulgA?si=lcWrnpkuEp9j_0JI

Sheuns:
All they do is threaten people.

This same Onanuga man some years ago was a critic against Lagos state governance.

It's no threat. You guys should try and understand the mentality of others sometimes. Perhaps you have never built anything or anyone from scratch, owned nothing substantial nor been a business employer to know the sacrifice people make investing in things and people to then feel gravely betrayed when backstabbed.

To show leaders are different to you guys, listen to how Data Baba Ahmed admits he understands Wike's motivation to destroy PDP based on what Tambuwal and Atiku did to him.

Datti Baba Ahmed is a political opponent.of Wike but unlike you followers who are always emotional, he is rational enough on an independently human level to speak against betrayal.


https://youtube.com/shorts/ZtHHE95ulgA?si=VDxZe_dG0OVl_S1J