₦airaland Forum

AfroKnight:
Only f o o l s will support a man who never built any of the parties he contested under.

One thing obi and atiku have in common is their tendency to be fair weather friends. Jumping from party to party. Not staying long enough to consolidate.

These men should never be president. They cannot build.

I nominate this as candidate for post of the year 😎

Lanretoye:
See quack journalist that was helping them to shout status quo and compromised judiciary initially,now he has come to his senses.he was part of the people misleading the masses from his studio

Indeed. "Last, last e don cast, na everybody go chop breakfast".

Rufai Oseni is a malevolent and fake human being because , to me, he only has energy to fight Tinubu while always slavish towards Atiku, Obi etal all.

Godfullsam:
Nigeria is not suppose to be one country. The three major tribes in Nigeria don't share anything in common and so have no business being together as a country.

This is the bitter truth we all have been hiding from each other since independent. The likes of awolowo and sir Ahmadu Bello saw this and were bold enough to advocate for the dissolution of this entity.
But a leader of a certain tribe, out of foolishness and greed, insisted that the country must remain one indivisible entity.

This tribalism is natural and it will continue to exist as long as the country remains one.

God bless you. Nigeria, as a nation, will never work unless we are all allowed to define our lives and purpose via regional autonomy.

Being irreconcilably different to others is not a crime.

What must happen, to accommodate the reality of how humans are very different, is formal recognition of the right of people with homogeneity of socio-economic ideas to control and define their own lives and geographic space as they wish.

Simple. It is the reason very different nations of the world exist side by side, have their own armies etc.

TokoEkambi:
The north won't agree to this, as their leaders can't survive without access to steal Nigeria's resources (reason why they always feel uncomfortable not being in power). The east won't want this, because they know they won't have access to the large Nigerian market (forget all those "let us go" rhetorics they're fooling themselves with. All of that was busted when northern youths asked them to leave the north, and their elders went crawling on their belly and knees to beg them).

Baba, you are 💯% right. Yet the issue boils down to how much the rest of us who are progressive ( I believe those to be people of the SW, SS, NC) want a great and developed Nigeria.

What we fail to fight for today will damage us for generations. We are suffering today because of the failures of past leaders.

What progressive Nigerian should be fighting for right now is a just and equitable nation where those doing the right things are rewarded and those doing wrong are sanctioned.

How hard is it to ask the North, the existential threat to Nigeria, to fix up instead of us indulging the fixation of their leaders to produce the President of our nation?

For many decades now they are yet to have a reformer like Awolowo who transformed the fortunes of Yorubas with free education.

Today NC and NW regions are the arbiters of terrorism threatening to engulf Nigeria.

Yet Atiku, Kwankwaso, El Rufai etal all are only interested in trying to influence the Arrival of the next President rather than dedicate all their energy on delivering their region from terror.

Did the world not see how Yoruba leaders ( RIP Akeredolu) moved when terrorism was threatening the SW in 2020 to 2022?

Why do we keep indulging wrongdoers? Is it cowardice or slave mentality? That is what I don't understand because to me the way forward is simply about Nigerians, rather than fighting themselves impotently, having the bravery to challenge those causing problems to fix up or go their way.

guobe:
Will you prefer an incompetent tribe to a competent non tribe ?

Bro, give precise example. Stop dancing around mischievously. Show what "competent non tribe" person has done that makes him/her a messiah.

What exactly has Obi achieved, as a leader, for an ethnic group of more than 30 million to be declaring him a Messiah and rescuer of Nigeria today, whereas they cursed him vehemently for failing as Governor of Anambra in the past?

Is that not the definition of tribalism you are talking about!

Same people will accuse Tinubu of "no achievement" to tout Obi the messiah, when he is the personification of leadership failure, whereas the brightest minds, in the finest institutions in the world, are creating dissertations about the critical and pivotal achievements of PBAT while Governor of Lagos.

Would someone like you ever praise Tinubu as the truth, per leadership, as an objective non-Nigerians, Gabriel Kuris, does below? No. Never.

You will keep insisting your failed kinsman Obi is best. That, precisely, is the "tribalism" tragedy of Nigeria where we all claim others are the problems whereas each and every one of us is the problem.


https://successfulsocieties.princeton.edu/publications/remaking-neglected-megacity-civic-transformation-lagos-state-1999-2012

DomPerignon:
Politics is tribal.

This is what your J3wish masters always say in the US as to why they vote their own or any AIPAC bought lackey.

Precisely. Especially in a nation like Nigeria where the strangest of bedfellows have been brought together and charged to co-exist.

Why don't we tackle the reality of how we are very different, and perhaps need to forge very different lives in our respective regions, instead of spouting empty rhetorics daily about tribalism, "one Nigeria" etc?

To me, what Nigeria needs the most, rather than another election that changes nothing, is a sincere national conference where we will all speak and conclusions reached must be implemented.

We need to talk honestly with each other and , most importantly, accept our different needs and approach to life.

Meaning we must then fundamentally accept the urgent need for us all to define our corners of the world how it suits us.

guobe:
Absolutely spot on,you nailed it,Nigerians are really a different breed of people and they deserve the type of leaders they are getting.
Most Nigerians have a very parochial mindset and do not deserve pity if they are suffering the consequences of it.

We should simply go our separate ways. At least along regional lines as Awolowo fervently believed.

Me for example, perhaps because I have lived majority of my life outside Nigeria, cannot understand why any Nigerian is supporting a Northerner to be President in 2027 and even queued behind Atiku to replace Buhari in 2023.

My reasoning is very simple. If Nigeria is the UK for example, Britons will never entertain the effort of a leader in Birmingham to be prime Minister of the nation if he has shown no efficacy for delivering solutions to the problems under his nose and jurisdiction in Birmingham.

Yorubas did not create terrorism against themselves. Yet we saw the effort of their leaders,with Amotekun, to protect lives and property of South-Westerners.

Can anybody then explain to me why any Nigerian is indulging the effort of Atiku, Kwankwaso etal to become President when we have never seen them taking an interest, nor responsibility, for delivering solutions to the problem their kinsmen and region is causing Nigeria?

Nigeria could fail anytime because of terrorism. Yet Northern leaders cannot sit up and take responsibility for providing solutions to this grave problem they are causing for such a beautiful and blessed nation. Instead their focus, every single day, is how to produce the next President of Nigeria.

We need to go out separate ways along regional lines asap. Nigerians just lack the sophistication to note that.

alanto:
You yourself know you are just gaslighting people. How will another president remove subsidy and still make food and petrol cheap? If it's that easy why have we been paying subsidies since forever?

You want to replace a Tinubu with a Peter Obi? What are you on?

Don't mind him. Tinubu is doing precisely what must be done, how it must be done, to reposition Nigeria after decades of cumulative misrule.

Those who are not entrenched in the tribalism Nigerians are drowning in, i.e non-Nigerians, admit Tinubu is doing well. The Nigerian central bank, for the first time ever, has just emerged world best central bank of the year because of the reforms of our CBN governor Cardoso.

No leader who means well for Nigeria can do different to what Tinubu is doing because the rules of socio-economic leadership of nations are very simple and clearly defined.

Opposition to Tinubu's leadership is nothing but tribalism. Buhari and Jonathan ran up trillions in debt to GENCOs and DISCOs that has now floored our power sector.

Yet their respective kinsmen will be attacking Tinubu, now dedicatedly moving to clear up the debt both former Presidents accumulated, as responsible for poor power supply whereas if they are not tribalistic they would be able to see that Tinubu is trying to clear the mess their kinsmen caused.

We are wasting time, lives and energy not understanding we need to move to secure full regional autonomy.

Let people of similar ethnicity or homogeneity of socio-economic ideas go and lead themselves. That is the simple solutions to all our problems self-destructively stubborn Nigerians do not wish to acknowledge.

@OP.

Your talk is the equivalent of flogging a dead horse to move. An exercise in futility.

When will you Nigerians understand the saying 'insanity is doing the same thing over and over again to expect a different outcome"?

Nigerians are very different people who have no business being together and , bar lord Lugard's amalgamation, would ordinarily form very different nations same way, for example, Ghana, Cameroon, South Africa etal are very different to Nigeria.

If the tribalistic predisposition of Nigerians has not changed for many decades now, at what stage will you people agree we should all go and organise our lives under full regional autonomy so that people of same ethnicity, or homogeneity of socio-economic ideas, can lead themselves as they wish as is the case with most successful and developed nations of the world?

Eriokanmi:
Be calm. Defection isn't a sin. Tinubu moved from SDP, to AD, to AC/ACN and the APC.

Can you listen to yourself? Tinubu defines and strengthens political Parties. He harmonises their efficiency and ability to win/dominate.

He doesn't just move to join and parasitically use Political Parties as limited and untalented leaders like Atiku, Obi, Kwankwaso etal do.

He single-handedly created ACN and made it the official opposition Party to PDP by 2013. Who else can do or has done similar in Nigeria?

He was a major force in the alliance that created APC that then went on to depose PDP.

Tinubu builds, unites and strengthens. Atiku, Obi, Kwankwaso etal show the limitation of men who are not leaders at the highest level because non has built or defined anything/anyone pivotal.

All the children of those who call themselves Nigerian leaders are rejecting their dad to pledge support for Tinubu and praise his vision/leadership.

What does that tell you?

okosodo:
This Dezaini matter is Tunubu's distraction alternative. She is not the only thief we have had in nigeria, but she is the most prosecuted.... Smell the cofee

Tinubu is controlling the UK law prosecution system? What a powerful Nigerian.

Same way I am sure your kind believe Tinubu influenced Finland to Jail Simon Ekpa.

I wonder if some of you think before you rush to post.

sweetjohn:
Nigerians have seen the highest levels of the gathering of clowns and nonentities in APC

Kwankwaso has nothing to offer. He is a political jobber and local champion.

franvincoop:
You love Nigeria abi?
Awon emergency lover of Nigeria.
What is my business with Singapore?
You love Nigeria and fellow Nigerians but you are the first to mention Singapore.
If anyone here is high, it's you and you are stoned on some Tinuboo shit.

Like it or not, Biya's Cameroon is better than Tinupoo's Nigeria.
You fit go buy rope or use sniper.
You wan take Nigeria compare with faraway Singapore, wey small Cameroon di carry Nigeria over 5.5.
Even Iran at war is far better than Tinupoo's Nigeria.

Enjoy your life in Cameroon.

Lol. One of the many clowns, who have built nothing, now insisting they are saviours of Nigeria. They will all be put to shame.

helinues:

Big one for that matter.

He's not thinking straight

For real. Imagine a dude gossiping about the marriage and relationship affair of another guy? It just isn't done.

magoo10:
the beneficiary of tinubu shebi na the likes of bwala wey can deny his mama for pot of porridge from tinubu lol even when he his being played the video.
To even say there are no beneficiary of Peter Obi shows that guy is enslaved mentally and physically.
All those who benefitted from the sweeping tsunami of Obi in 2023 and won elections because of Obi na Wetin? Even till date Obi does not care which party or not they decamped to.
This is only recent o. I can assure you that people have been benefiting from Obi over the years silently and they are not in anyway enslaved to him neither does he even need their loyalty for any reason.
Bro code ko girl code ni

You have issues.

magoo10:
who benefits from Obi or not is his private life how does that concern a wife snatcher or is that another inec criteria for winning votes.

What you're doing is the preserve of women. Bro code 101, don't drag another man's relationship and private affairs.

Discredit Yul's observation about Obi if you can. Who and what has Obi built as a leader?

Or you want to deny that the fittest leaders are defined by who and whnt they built?

franvincoop:
Who in his right senses would leave Cameroon passport and touch a Nigerian passport even with a 100 m rod?
Cameroon passport has much more visa free countries than Nigeria passport.
Last I checked Nigeria passport was even banned in UAE.
When you here xenophobia in SA, have you ever heard of Cameroon there? Or are there no Cameroonians in SA?
Which passport full Asian prisons?

Since you don't want to agree that Cameroon is greater than Nigeria.

I will create a thread myself with that comparison and quote you from top to bottom.

Who cares about who wins elections?
My point is stop lying that Nigeria is getting better or will get better, stop throwing propaganda around and hopscotching from Singapore to God knows where next.

Nigerians have never had it this bad under a supposed first class accountant and as a Yoruba man, I am ashamed of Tinubu.

Lol? Are you high? Again, I send Cameroon how? Goodluck to them. Nothing against the nation but what is my business with Cameroon?

I love Nigeria and my fellow Nigerians. Take this your Cameroon worship to a Cameroonian blog abeg.

magoo10:
Person wey marry another man wife Wetin you expect from his Brain and incidentally na dis kind people tinubu dey like.

Whatever. Leave Yul's private life and comment on his talk about Obi.

Edochie is right and some of us have made this same point countless times. What and who has Obi built? Where are his mentees?

franvincoop:
I have told you to leave foreign things out of your mouth. You don't know anything.
Roaming on nairaland and reading news does not make you smart.
Knowing the date of birth of Christopher Columbus cannot put food on the table.

What does Nigeria and Singapore have in common?
Compare Nigeria with your neighbors before you talk about Singapore.

In terms of electricity, Cameroon is better off than Nigeria, 24 hours stable electricity.
Minimum wage is 108,000 Naira in Cameroon, which can buy at least 2 bags of 50 kg rice or 6 bags of 50 kg cement.
What can 70,000 naira minimum wage buy in Nigeria?
Security is tight, zero kidnapping for ransom in Cameroon.
How many checkpoints in Nigeria is ID card requested for?
Try loitering around without an ID card even during the day in Cameroon.
Free primary education.
University education pegged at less than 100$ per annum since 2000.
What do you have in Nigeria?

So is it the Gencos/Discos debt that Tinubu is borrowing trillions to pay?
How much has Tinubu borrowed to Invest in the electricity sector? Zero
What happened to the Siemens deal?
We are 9 months to election.
When Tinubu said don't vote for me for 2nd term if I don't give you stable electricity, did he know that there were debts with Gencos/Discos or not?

You think you are talking to bots like yourself, who have short memory and lack critical thought. Sorry for yourself.

Who needs your prayers when I can secure myself, pay my children fees and provide my own electricity.

You are the one you need to pray for.

I want us to compare Nigeria with Cameroon.

Choose any sector

Electricity
Security
Education
Passport access
Hydrocarbons and refinery
Rail Transport
Road transport
Agriculture
Air transport
Water


Just choose one and try me.
When I finish rub you for ground, you go remove Singapore from your mouth.
You will know that Paul Biya's Cameroon is better than Tinubu's Nigeria by hundreds of kilometers.
Since you live AI so much, AI will be the referee to separate facts from fiction.

Cameroon 2015 - 2025 vs Nigeria 2015-2025.

No future projections or projects, or horse wishing, only what is on ground now in both countries.

Waiting......

Are you high? I send Cameroon how? Now I know you are not a serious person with your talk of Cameroon. Who knows whether you are even Cameroonian parading as Nigerian.

Buhari and Pantami used NIN lunacy to dash Nigerian passport to so many illegals so I would not be surprised you are one.

Make whatever noise you want. Tinubu will win next year and the real show to transform Nigeria will begin. Many solutions providers will join the bandwagon to make pitches to Governors and leaders in a solution-driven Nigeria.

You will be here shouting about Cameroon and Niger Republic.

kingbee90:
Quit smoking that substance that you and your Bulaba use to smoke.
E dey make una to dey yarn "opata".

Yeah. Same substance you smoke also.

franvincoop:
Leave all this propaganda for your type, make una take am stand on the manhood with red pants"Made in Kano".
Any reforms wey we need binoculars to see am na propaganda.

Today is labour day?
Can take home pay minimum wage 70k take you home?
How much is fuel today per litre?
Has the electricity grid been restored?
How much is a litre of palm oil?
How many people will bandits kill today?
Are Nigerians more secure today than in 2023?
How much is a bag of cement?
Can Nigerians eat 3 square meals per day?
What is the meaning of Ebim pawa ooo?


You wan bottle feed me foreign propaganda, u no even use Channels TV wey dey 9ja, you feel say as na whites I go dey shake.

I don't know what to say to you. Where does one even begin with an individual with your incredible sense of entitlement?

It took Singapore three decades of reforms and sacrifice to become a developed nation and you are talking childish nonsense over systemic socio-economic decay Nigeria needs at least 20 years to reverse.

For example, you are making ignorant noise about electricity. Is it the government of Tinubu that ran up trillions in debts to DISCOs and GENCOs since 2013-2014 to date?

Not only does Tinubu have to pay the debt Jonathan and Buhari ran up , and fled from, but he must also ensure there is transparency and credibility in our privatised power sector to attract foreign investor funding that is the only hope of Nigeria having adequate constant power

These are things a reasonable 10 year old can work out if the facts are put before him. Yet you, a grown man, wants to disregard perfectly sensible facts and reality to insist Tinubu must somehow get a bucket full of water from a pebble.

You lot ain't ready. I will pray for you.

Dailybellz:
https://x.com/i/status/2050169156499075122

Commonsensical talk we have repeated to Obidients so many times yet they refuse to see simple logic.

Tinubu will win in January easily because a lot of Northern leaders, in office and in control of cash, will do everything ensure the South has her 8 years through Jagaban so the North too can have same from 2031.

No ambitious and visionary Northern leader, in office today and with eyes on greater future ambition, will.do 'abobaku' for the dishonorable ambition of Atiku who is 80.

No sensible Northern leader, below 65, will agree to go down with Atiku.

franvincoop:
Respect for Tinubu on the world stage?
Please which Tinubu?
The same one who forfeited 460,000 USD or another Tinubu?
The same Tinubu who sued to have his academic records not to be released to the public citing irreparable damages?
Which Tinubu are you talking about?

Grow up. Abandon emotions and sentiments as adult should be able to do.

When the lady below cites Nigeria as a reference point across the world, who do you think she is talking of?

Because you have petty and ethnocentric reason to dislike PBAT does not mean you disregard the reality of how he is well-regarded globally today for his strategic and laudable reforms.

Grow up, acknowledge reality and learn to rise above petty hatred of others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph5XCf8jgOE?si=NO8LxJfw5jcCIAJx

ayodejimayowa:
The earlier Nigerians know the damages that the so called America and UK...western world as a whole has done to us and still doing the better they realise that Nigeria can't be liberated unless we get our country from them.insecurities all over the world is sponsored by them,with the help of many political leaders and corrupt military. America cant save us

So Atiku is the solution because you can't get over colonial mentality that leaves you feeling the UK, USA etal are your major problem and not your home grown destroyers like Atiku etal?

Bruv, Singapore was a former colony of the UK same as us. Today Singapore is rated a better country to live in than the UK with stronger passport.

Imagine if they were like you and incapable of moving beyond blaming colonial masters for everything.

Singapore has left the UK behind and Brits are even moving to start new lives in Singapore. Yet you lot are still cursing Lord Lugard.

How long are you lot going to keep seeing yourselves as victims instead of siezing the moment, taking responsibility and delivering solutions for your own problems?

Black Africans have problems. Walahi.

AMINDA:
I'm sure he's crying about it, but he was Vice President for 8 years. Tinubu became president only because 5.6m Northern voters voted for him. Obi defeated him in the South, even in Lagos.

Lol. Lament more. Winner takes all in Nigerian politics. Nothing for second place let alone your third place messiah Obi.

Mentcee:
Thunder feel you up there with that Harliburton on your mouth.

Lol 😆 😆 🤣 😂. Sharp dude. Suffce to say Atiku's history is known to the world especially USA. Wishing you a nice weekend Baba.

onuman:
The thought of handing Nigeria over to another Fula after all the evil of Buhari against some sections of Nigeria, is frightening.

Atiku should go and rest
By the way, this unbelievable news of Atiku invited by an unnamed American friend to come to America is like falsehood, and Atiku's manner of response demonstrates the falsehood in the invite.

Well-said. Money runs the world. Especially ultra-corrupt and seedy USA that pretends to be the personification of Sainthood.

"One nation under God" and such similar hypocritical malarkey.

This means Atiku can find success paying crooks in the American system to give him USA microphone audience.

Still, does that mean the world will support a Fulani Presidency of Nigeria when Atiku and co have not shown they are different to their Sahel nation brothers the world fear will engulf Sub-Saharan Africa in humanitarian terrorist-driven crisis.

Nigeria is becoming more important to a troubled world looking for greater energy security (oil and gas) because of so many cold wars pervasive in world politics today.

The West does not want Fulani leadership of Nigeria right now. I am sure of that. I honestly believe they will even facilitate the break-up of Nigeria if the North does not humbles herself to begin doing what is right by Nigeria.

sammyscholar:
This is interesting. I love your guts.

Thank you. Definition of life is happiness and solutions. Anyone who gets that and lives that principle will be okay most times.

Fujiyama:
^^^
I may disagree very strongly with your politics but I can't argue with this.

The food market example is (to use the phrase trending now) one of 'particular concern'. The 'lifestyle' products markets (food, drinks, textiles, cosmetics, accessories etc. ) should have been ours to control but as you have pointed out - we are completely out of the loop. The next question should be: why aren't we pragmatically focused or organised to fix this? That's a question that deserves a whole new thread on its own.



^^^
Again, I admit there's a lot to take away from what you have said. They are life lessons - and I can accept that.

You mention the Chinese and how they operate on this continent, extracting value at will - while we stand aside and watch. There is some merit in your argument. But you would do well to remember that entrepreneurship is encouraged in China - and not just with words alone. The Chinese overseas business community has strong state support. The Chinese government does big business with African governments and chinese businessmen often piggyback on these relationships. Unfortunately, we can't say the same about the Nigerian government.

While the Chinese do have a strong work ethic which manifests in projects that are actually executed and delivered on African soil (contrasted against Western governments and their hypocritical lectures), there is a dark side. Chinese interests (they are not the only ones, I must say) in Nigeria are notorious for violation of expatriate quotas and local labour laws. In all this, our government is asleep at the wheel (as usual).

But as you have said, the bigger picture is what matters. As we pressure government to be accountable, we also have to put in the work - I agree wholeheartedly.

Really impressed with all you have stated. Politely and intelligently presented as well. Will watch out for your posts.

As I have always stated, I don't wish to be anyone's reference point. I don't even believe myself intelligent or talented enough to be that.

Nonetheless, the personal success I have attained, predicated on prioritisng strong analysis of problems and noting the specific solutions required to banish them, is something I pray more Nigerians have so we can define our own solutions.

Long and short of my thinking is that we are nowhere near as good as we think we need to be in terms of creating solutions for our own problems.

Some of these problems are not rocket science considerations yet supposedly educated Nigerians spend years discussion them back and forth with no clear way forward identifiable.

Our major problems have very simple solutions. The issue is that not enough Nigerians are solutions providers, as is optimally desirable, so that Nigeria can become a developed nation.